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Old 01-30-2011, 04:19 PM   #551
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Reports out there that Kent Turene just de-committed from USC. Hurts if true. He looks like a big time MLB even though he is only a 3 star.
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:43 PM   #552
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I'm not a big Turene fan (and I'm sure that will make Bug lol). Scout guys seem to think he's just a big athletic guy who doesn't have the skills or work ethic to make it on the next level. He started as a very high 5 star and has been downgraded his entire senior year.

Plus he's played a ton of recruiting games over the past couple of months. Assuming Sarao and Madden stay solid, this is no big deal to me.
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Old 01-30-2011, 04:44 PM   #553
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Scott Kennedy watched three of his games and didn't see anything that made him think he was a Div. 1 football player. (He didn't say he wasn't good, just saw three bad games he thought)

ASU lost Dillion Van Der Wal to Vandy
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:17 PM   #554
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Some decent vibes that 4* TE (Arkansas commitment currently) Chris Barnett out of Texas could end up a part of Michigan's class. With a renewed focus on TE's in our offense he is a huge get if we can land him. We have a senior starter in Kevin Koger, and a RS-Jr in Brandon Moore who has yet to see any meaningful snaps, and that is it.
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:34 PM   #555
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We've been worrying about Barnett for awhile. If you get him, he will be a great one. Hope we keep him, obviously.
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:46 PM   #556
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According to Manny Navarro, Jalen Grimble was at UCLA this weekend, at least that's what his coach told Navarro
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Old 01-30-2011, 05:49 PM   #557
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Turene has officially de-committed from USC but says USC is still under consideration and is even with his other top two choices, Texas Tech and Georgia. However, there is a lot of smoke out there that he committed to Georgia 2 weeks ago and will make it official on signing day.
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:00 PM   #558
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According to Manny Navarro, Jalen Grimble was at UCLA this weekend, at least that's what his coach told Navarro

Huffman has said that no one at UCLA has confirmed it, so he thinks it's just a rumor sadly
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:15 PM   #559
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We've been worrying about Barnett for awhile. If you get him, he will be a great one. Hope we keep him, obviously.

Our Rivals guy said Barnett has told the Michigan and Arkansas staffs he will decide on Friday or Saturday and both are okay with that. Those are the only two teams involved.
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:37 PM   #560
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There is a rumor De'Anthony Thomas has decomitted from USC and is going to instead end up at Oregon. Wow if true.
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Old 01-30-2011, 11:51 PM   #561
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There is a rumor De'Anthony Thomas has decomitted from USC and is going to instead end up at Oregon. Wow if true.

That would suck if true. Kid is going to be one of the top 3 players to come out of this class.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:11 AM   #562
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247 is saying the rumor is true...I bet Oregon told him he could play offense
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:37 AM   #563
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It is confirmed that he visited Oregon this weekend "and loved it" but word is that he hasn't de-committed from USC yet. Going to be a restless few days for a bunch of Trojan fans.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:30 AM   #564
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I've thought there could be trouble with Thomas ever since he started talking about wanting to play offense. He'd definitely fit into Oregon's offense a lot better than USC - I can see this one having legs.

Kid is as close as a sure fire future top 10 pick as you can get coming out of HS as a corner. I have no idea what's going through his head or what kind of advice he's being given. If he bulks up he's maybe an 180lb running back and there aren't too many of those in the NFL.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:47 AM   #565
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I'll bet he sticks with USC. All year, the only consistent thing we have heard is that the kid wants to stay close to home. So the only opportunity was for UCLA to steal Thomas from USC, the possibility of that boat sailed when Thomas didn't get the grades to pass by the UCLA admissions board.
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Old 01-31-2011, 06:59 AM   #566
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Getting Huggins is great, but everyone can tell you we needed OLs more than anything. Losing an OL recruit to a school that already has 6 OLs committed is just depressing. I'm sure his family will enjoy their new home and jobs in Tallahassee tho.

LOL. Gotta love recruiting time. Yes, I'm sure it was the job offers for his parents that got him to come to FSU, and not the fact that it was between FSU and Rutgers.

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We were told that FSU felt confident it could still pull Matias come signing day, despite his commitment to Rutgers. The surprising part of this switch isn't that it happened, but rather that it happened tonight.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:01 AM   #567
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I'll bet he sticks with USC. All year, the only consistent thing we have heard is that the kid wants to stay close to home. So the only opportunity was for UCLA to steal Thomas from USC, the possibility of that boat sailed when Thomas didn't get the grades to pass by the UCLA admissions board.

I agree with this which is why I'm not too nervous. Plus, we've all seen recruits get excited by the glitz and glamour of an OV and then once they get away from it for a day or three, they go back to their original plan.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:01 AM   #568
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Dola -

Word is that Simmons is going to pick Rutgers. Distance is a factor for him, more than he originally thought.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:07 AM   #569
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:23 AM   #570
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LOL. Gotta love recruiting time. Yes, I'm sure it was the job offers for his parents that got him to come to FSU, and not the fact that it was between FSU and Rutgers.

It's just strange when a kid waits almost the entire length of the recruiting process before committing, a couple days later calls the top player in the state on the eve of his announcement to say that he should choose the same school as him, and then two days after that, decommits and flips. I don't think it had anything more to do with a coach speaking Spanish than it is just the kid being an impressionable kid who has trouble saying no to people. Which is why many still feel he is up for grabs, and why those who aren't subject to the dead period are working on him.
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:34 AM   #571
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My point is that there are a million reasons why a 17 year old would flip decisions so quickly (heck, he might do it again), but throwing around "he must have been paid" when there are quite a few legit reasons for the kid to do it is pretty lame.

There was a kid last year from South Florida who was choosing between Miami, Auburn, and New Mexico (can't remember his name), and he chose New Mexico. That raises some suspicions. A top OL prospect choosing to play in Florida for a top OL coach for a suddenly rejuvenated/hot team is not much of a stretch. Maybe Jenn Sterger texted him about what a great place Tallahassee is...
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:42 AM   #572
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I've got my fingers crossed that Dooley will bring in Clear or Richardson. One or both would really elevate a pretty good class. Dooley didn't set the world on fire recruiting like Kiffin did, but he's still provided a pretty good class thus far.

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Old 01-31-2011, 07:48 AM   #573
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My point is that there are a million reasons why a 17 year old would flip decisions so quickly (heck, he might do it again), but throwing around "he must have been paid" when there are quite a few legit reasons for the kid to do it is pretty lame.

Which is why I didn't bring up the deserved shot at RU based off of the undeserved dig at FSU .
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:01 AM   #574
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OK, seeing the same thing as you from our side:


“FSU will not be accepting a commitment from Tre Jackson at this point…could change, but as of now he does not have a committable offer and will not be visiting FSU this weekend…"

I read a quote from Mr. Jackson this morning that he had a "tough decision ahead deciding between FSU, Miami, Florida, Alabama and NC State."

How did his FSU visit go? Does he have an offer yet? I would be shocked if he had a Florida or Alabama offer.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:12 AM   #575
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I was away from the computer all weekend and haven't read any specifics about him, but I thought his visit was canceled.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:12 AM   #576
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Getting Huggins is great, but everyone can tell you we needed OLs more than anything. Losing an OL recruit to a school that already has 6 OLs committed is just depressing. I'm sure his family will enjoy their new home and jobs in Tallahassee tho.

I highly doubt Florida State did anything like that for him. If this was some big time defensive linemen or player who was being recruited by schools that normally pay recruits then yeah I can see it.

Everyone pays for recruits the difference between the SEC and the rest of college ball is that they can pay for 10 recruits while the rest can pay 3-4 on average. Defensive linemen are the ones who usually receive payments with QBs being second.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:17 AM   #577
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Also, with Mattias flipping from Rutgers, I believe that gives us 7 OL commits. From what I read a little while ago, people are thinking this guy might be a back-burner DT possibility in case we don't get Jernigan. Some think he's still got a place even if wwe hit on Jernigan and Steward (no one's high on Rasco coming). There's still a bit of room for him if we go to 28.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:20 AM   #578
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Mattias is being brought in as a OL. I believe Jackson is the one being brought in as a DT replacement should we whiff on Jernigan and Watson.
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Some decent vibes that 4* TE (Arkansas commitment currently) Chris Barnett out of Texas could end up a part of Michigan's class. With a renewed focus on TE's in our offense he is a huge get if we can land him. We have a senior starter in Kevin Koger, and a RS-Jr in Brandon Moore who has yet to see any meaningful snaps, and that is it.

Let's make this happen, Chris Barnett. You know Hoke is going to re-install Carr's famous "naked boot leg to the right tight end" play. It's made a lot TE's a lot of money in the NFL.

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You should check out what DJ Williams has done in Petrino's offense first (which, he of course has already done--probably why he committed in the first place).
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:23 PM   #581
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Getting Huggins is great, but everyone can tell you we needed OLs more than anything. Losing an OL recruit to a school that already has 6 OLs committed is just depressing. I'm sure his family will enjoy their new home and jobs in Tallahassee tho.



Happens quite often...

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Old 01-31-2011, 05:15 PM   #582
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Former Rutgers QB Tom Savage lost his appeal with the faculty board today. BUT, after speaking with him, Greg Schiano decided to allow Tommy boy to talk to Miami (FL) or Florida.
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Interesting that you use scout's rankings here.
Clemson has 2 5* (Watkins and Bellamy) prospects according to Rivals and 3 5* (Peake) per ESPN. Then again the scout Clemson guy is a SC graduate and hated by the entire Clemson staff and the site has less than 500 members so maybe thts why...

According to Rivals Clemson has (2) 5* (6) 4 * and (12) 3*...

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Old 01-31-2011, 07:24 PM   #584
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Our Rivals guy said Barnett has told the Michigan and Arkansas staffs he will decide on Friday or Saturday and both are okay with that. Those are the only two teams involved.

I don't care if Robinson is staying, or not and what they sold him on, but that offense is changing. It will be a modified version of the spread, but I just don't see this staff not wanting a more pro style offense when it's all said and done.
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Former Rutgers QB Tom Savage lost his appeal with the faculty board today. BUT, after speaking with him, Greg Schiano decided to allow Tommy boy to talk to Miami (FL) or Florida.

Weird stuff
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:11 PM   #586
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I don't care if Robinson is staying, or not and what they sold him on, but that offense is changing. It will be a modified version of the spread, but I just don't see this staff not wanting a more pro style offense when it's all said and done.

Expect it to look like the Eagles offense. The QB we added, Bellamy, is a dual threat kid who plays like Tate. More of a passer then a runner but he has the ability to take off. He is much bigger though (6'3, 190 presently).
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As expected, 4 star WR (TE?) Junior Pomee has committed to USC. It is expected Ryan Henderson will commit as well. Pomee's dad let the cat out of the bag a bit early tonight.

Oh yeah, to beat Bug to the punch: How many receivers does USC need?
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:34 PM   #588
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3* RB Thomas Rawls committed to UM tonight. He has a PC tomorrow but the Detnews put a story up tonight confirming it. Rawls was a huge academic risk before the season and professed his love for UM from the get go so he didn't have a lot of offers but he broke Mark Ingram's league records. He's a 225 lbs bowling ball. He is clearly not the runner Ingram is but he can be very good for us.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:43 PM   #589
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Byron Moore Jr commits to Tennessee!
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:44 PM   #590
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Interesting that you use scout's rankings here.
Clemson has 2 5* (Watkins and Bellamy) prospects according to Rivals and 3 5* (Peake) per ESPN. Then again the scout Clemson guy is a SC graduate and hated by the entire Clemson staff and the site has less than 500 members so maybe thts why...

According to Rivals Clemson has (2) 5* (6) 4 * and (12) 3*...

I prefer this one:

Conference wins since 2006
Virginia Tech 32
Georgia Tech 27
Boston College 25
Clemson 24
FSU 22
Miami 20

Since 2006, the number of ESPN 150 recruits by those schools:

Miami: 33
FSU: 27
Clemson: 24
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Georgia Tech: 3
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3* 5-foot-11, 185-pound cornerback Jordan Lomax from DeMatha HS commits to Iowa.

Is this a sign of things to come for the Hawks?
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:28 PM   #592
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Is this a sign of things to come for the Hawks?

You may get Cooper though I think ultimately he ends up at GT. No way Iowa gets Kouandjilo.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:12 AM   #593
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As expected, 4 star WR (TE?) Junior Pomee has committed to USC. It is expected Ryan Henderson will commit as well. Pomee's dad let the cat out of the bag a bit early tonight.

Oh yeah, to beat Bug to the punch: How many receivers does USC need?

Dammit!

But how many do they need? Could make sense as there is some Blackwell to Oregon rumors starting to surface too
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Byron Moore Jr commits to Tennessee!

Instant impact player. He would have started last year at USC had he stayed
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Old 02-01-2011, 06:40 AM   #595
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Interesting that you use scout's rankings here.
Clemson has 2 5* (Watkins and Bellamy) prospects according to Rivals and 3 5* (Peake) per ESPN. Then again the scout Clemson guy is a SC graduate and hated by the entire Clemson staff and the site has less than 500 members so maybe thts why...

According to Rivals Clemson has (2) 5* (6) 4 * and (12) 3*...

I didn't use anything...just saw the chart on a site and posted it here. I don't know anything about anyone associated with any of these services, who's better or more accurate or more legit, etc.
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I didn't use anything...just saw the chart on a site and posted it here. I don't know anything about anyone associated with any of these services, who's better or more accurate or more legit, etc.

It's the one who rates your school the highest. Sometimes, it's even the one who rates individual players the highest.
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I guess what I'm saying is I didn't create the chart or look for the best ratings with the express purpose of making my team look better than it is. If someone else did that and I copied it, oh well. I just saw it and thought it was great for FSU.

Scouts, Rivals, ESPN... I don't know who's more legit than the other. ESPN's got FSU as the #1 team right now, which seems to back up the dominance demonstrated by the Scouts chart. I kinda lump all those services in with each other. As for what biases they have and how they tend to overrate/underrate... some of you put way more time into those things than I'm able to.
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There are now some Mamba rumors that he is going to Washington. I'm hoping (but not believing) that this is all to generate doubt and bring more publicity to his signing day announcement.
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:04 AM   #599
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You may get Cooper though I think ultimately he ends up at GT. No way Iowa gets Kouandjilo.

I agree withg you. But with Coker already here and Lomax committing and Iowas track record for putting offensive linemen in the NFL, im hoping that is enough to sway Kouandjilo. (please, please, please come to Iowa)
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:10 AM   #600
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I guess what I'm saying is I didn't create the chart or look for the best ratings with the express purpose of making my team look better than it is. If someone else did that and I copied it, oh well. I just saw it and thought it was great for FSU.

Scouts, Rivals, ESPN... I don't know who's more legit than the other. ESPN's got FSU as the #1 team right now, which seems to back up the dominance demonstrated by the Scouts chart. I kinda lump all those services in with each other. As for what biases they have and how they tend to overrate/underrate... some of you put way more time into those things than I'm able to.

It was a joke aimed at all fanbases, not you. Relax.
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