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Old 08-06-2008, 12:18 PM   #551
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DING DING DING, this makes far more sense.

Then this game is broken, and we should give up now.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:18 PM   #552
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So you guys think the Minotaur can sit in the center and kill us all off so that we can't ever reach the center? And he can only be killed by wolves -- the people who don't want us to win? I don't see them doing that for us!


Obviously not, it makes far more sense that he MUST move around the Labyrinth.
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Plus - we don't know that the minotaur just sits there. He/she is one of us - so they can move around just like we can, I would imagine.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:18 PM   #554
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You're being really argumentative today, have you not had your Coffee?
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:19 PM   #555
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So you guys think the Minotaur can sit in the center and kill us all off so that we can't ever reach the center? And he can only be killed by wolves -- the people who don't want us to win? I don't see them doing that for us!

I think the Minotaur would get bored and bloodthirsty and start looking around for something to kill.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:19 PM   #556
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Obviously not, it makes far more sense that he MUST move around the Labyrinth.

That seems like a cheesy game mechanic. Can he move from the center to one spot out, then back in again? What makes more sense to me is that he has a different win condition that makes him WANT to move around.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:21 PM   #557
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You're being really argumentative today, have you not had your Coffee?

Actually, I haven't had coffee today -- I did the last two days, and try not to have it too often. It just seems like people are implying what I said earlier, that the minotaur can just sit there in the center and kill everyone (although, the rules just say a "strong chance" we die immediately). I don't think I'm being more argumentative than anyone else, though -- for God's sake, I was accused of being a Dinosaur Alchemist, then told there was no such thing!
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:21 PM   #558
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Alchemists can't be anything other than humans. I've never heard of a dinosaur alchemist.

So your reveal was a load of crap.

Just playing catch up here, and perhaps others will say this later, but this is flawed logic. I've seen many roles among non humans, and non-humanoids.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:21 PM   #559
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That seems like a cheesy game mechanic. Can he move from the center to one spot out, then back in again? What makes more sense to me is that he has a different win condition that makes him WANT to move around.

That sounds logical - maybe the minotaur only wins if he kills all of his Ancient/wolf masters and no commoners escape the labyrinth? That way, if we assume the Ancients won't look for him then the minotaur has to look for them.

I dunno, I'm just making some logical guesses. That'd be a pretty hard win condition for that person though.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:23 PM   #560
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I think the Minotaur would get bored and bloodthirsty and start looking around for something to kill.

Maybe. Like I said earlier, my guess is that he has a different victory condition. And personally, since only wolves can kill him, that probably means he wants to help us in a way (when he's not killing us).
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:23 PM   #561
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:25 PM   #562
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That sounds logical - maybe the minotaur only wins if he kills all of his Ancient/wolf masters and no commoners escape the labyrinth? That way, if we assume the Ancients won't look for him then the minotaur has to look for them.

I dunno, I'm just making some logical guesses. That'd be a pretty hard win condition for that person though.

I dunno about killing the wolves -- that seems to leave a lot of his win condition to chance (whatever the chance is that he kills a wolf if he comes across it).

What does it mean to escape the labyrinth? RendeR mentioned something about that, too.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:26 PM   #563
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So you guys think the Minotaur can sit in the center and kill us all off so that we can't ever reach the center? And he can only be killed by wolves -- the people who don't want us to win? I don't see them doing that for us!

I didn't notice in the rules, but it would make sense to me that we could either find some sort of object or one of us has the ability to fight/kill the minotaur.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:26 PM   #564
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So you guys think the Minotaur can sit in the center and kill us all off so that we can't ever reach the center? And he can only be killed by wolves -- the people who don't want us to win? I don't see them doing that for us!

I agree with this
the minotaur must need move
for some reason, K?
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:26 PM   #565
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I'll say this - if the Minotaur is at the center, I'm not sure that's where people should go. Except the wolves since they're the only ones with a chance to kill him. And if you die in the process, we don't care.

Yesterday the Minotaur moved.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:28 PM   #566
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Yesterday the Minotaur moved.

Wow. Let's all stop bickering about this and listen to Abe!
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:28 PM   #567
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Yesterday the Minotaur moved.

Do tell.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:29 PM   #568
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Yesterday the Minotaur moved.

Cool, I must've missed that. How do you know?
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:29 PM   #569
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:30 PM   #570
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I dunno about killing the wolves -- that seems to leave a lot of his win condition to chance (whatever the chance is that he kills a wolf if he comes across it).

What does it mean to escape the labyrinth? RendeR mentioned something about that, too.

1) Yeah, that's why I kind of gave up with my guesses there :/

2) From the rules:
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Only one has to find the center and then we all win. It doesn't work like an 'escape hatch' or anything.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:31 PM   #571
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Haha - and Abe silences the crowd!
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:31 PM   #572
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Yesterday the Minotaur moved.

hwo do you know? wolf?
or are you the minotaur
how else would you know?
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:31 PM   #573
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Dark clouds begin to spread across the sky. In the distance there is a furious rumble that you know was not thunder. The Minotaur has begun to move.

See? From yesterday.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:33 PM   #574
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I don't see where the GM told us the Minotaur moved.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:33 PM   #575
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Dark clouds begin to spread across the sky. In the distance there is a furious rumble that you know was not thunder. The Minotaur has begun to move.

This is at 1:06PM yesterday. Perhaps it's when the player-minotaur PM'ed their move request.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:34 PM   #576
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This is at 1:06PM yesterday. Perhaps it's when the player-minotaur PM'ed their move request.

Yeah, it just hit me, too, that we might be talking mid-day, not end of day.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:35 PM   #577
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I guess we see how many people read the GM's posts around here.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:35 PM   #578
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Your spelling is better too
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:37 PM   #579
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So I guess that means he didn't move at 10PM? He could have had some other action that he could perform then instead of moving.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:37 PM   #580
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:38 PM   #581
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Hey guys, I'm back but I'll be bouncing on and off some. Thanks for the good wishes, I'm hoping this medication goes better. For all of them, the first dose did wonders, it was the second two weeks later that crushed me so in two weeks when I take the next, I'll know. Was nervous going in though.
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:39 PM   #582
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:40 PM   #583
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Yeah, there's some dramatic flair on that one and it was the first movement of the game (well, at least our 3pm move yesterday was our first).
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:40 PM   #584
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Old 08-06-2008, 12:47 PM   #585
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I first learned about Crohn's about six years ago when David Garrard was diagnosed with it. Now I know a lot about it because I've read all of those articles that talk about it. Wish you well my friend, wish you well.

TY Abe. I'm actually doing pretty well now but they want to get me off of the steroids that have stabilized me (been on for about a year and a half and it has done wonders for turning my figure into the shape of a pear!). As for Garrard, it's silly but I always have carried him on my fantasy team because of it.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:02 PM   #586
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:04 PM   #587
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I wonder if though the minotaur can obviously move, that if he will stay in proximity to the center. I would guess that he would lose if the commoners win. kinda like a 3rd team of one maybe.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:09 PM   #588
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I wonder if though the minotaur can obviously move, that if he will stay in proximity to the center. I would guess that he would lose if the commoners win. kinda like a 3rd team of one maybe.

Yeah, I'm looking at it as though we're facing two separate teams of wolves. The problem is that we can't kill one of them but maybe a wolf will stumble on him for us. Although if I were a wolf, I would consider not moving, cherry pick through night kills and let the minotaur get us in the labyrinth.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:41 PM   #589
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:43 PM   #590
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:52 PM   #591
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The Jester's voice booms over you, as if on a megaphone:

"Attention please. Anyone that thinks they can just sit around and drink a martini - I'll kill you."

He doesn't laugh this time, and the voice fades out.
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:55 PM   #592
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:56 PM   #593
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Old 08-06-2008, 01:57 PM   #594
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Me neither. I'm glad I didn't order one, though -- I would have wanted to sit and drink it.
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:01 PM   #595
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Well, I think that makes it pretty clear we need to go lynching.
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:02 PM   #596
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I'm patiently waiting for the 3pm physical moves before continuing to contemplate any game moves (like voting).
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:03 PM   #597
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Well, I think that makes it pretty clear we need to go lynching.

I thought it had to do with moving around the Labyrinth.
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Old 08-06-2008, 02:05 PM   #598
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I thought it had to do with moving around the Labyrinth.
Ah, perhaps a hint/reminder to send in physical move requests.
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I'm patiently waiting for the 3pm physical moves before continuing to contemplate any game moves (like voting).

Ditto on that front.
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