Jay Leno to stay with NBC; New 10 PM show - Page 12

Fidatelo · 01-24-2010, 03:05 AM

It was definitely Beck on the end. I'm still confused who the guy that looked like Elvis Costello was, though.

SackAttack · 01-24-2010, 05:35 AM

Jimmy Viveno, I think. He's part of the Tonight Show band, or was, if I'm not mistaken?

Swaggs · 01-24-2010, 10:07 AM

It was the Max Weinberg Seven, Ben Harper (the guy that was seated and picking), Beck, and the dude from ZZ Top. Not sure who the girl was.

Tigercat · 01-24-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

It was the Max Weinberg Seven, Ben Harper (the guy that was seated and picking), Beck, and the dude from ZZ Top. Not sure who the girl was.

That actually was Farrell's pregnant wife.

Galaxy · 01-24-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigercat

That actually was Farrell's pregnant wife.

Really?

BTW, the guy from ZZ Top is Billy Gibbons.

Maple Leafs · 01-26-2010, 02:20 PM

Thought this was an interesting look back:
Jay Leno Criticizes NBC On 'Tonight' Cliffhanger - Biography - NYTimes.com

cartman · 01-29-2010, 10:14 AM

Jimmy Kimmel responding to Leno's "sucker punch" claim he made on Oprah:

Mizzou B-ball fan · 01-29-2010, 10:42 AM

Jimmy has made nearly as much hay off this situation as Conan has. Very funny stuff.

Tigercat · 01-29-2010, 11:03 AM

Read the transcript of Oprah's interview, the only thing that bothered me is that she didn't counter Jay's points on Conan's ratings. Maybe the poor ratings were all Conan's fault, maybe he (or a different new host) could have done better. But when Leno acts like Conan had his chance and blew it, why not bring up how Leno struggled his first year and still got his full chance. How he thought it unfair when NBC courted Letterman after less than a year of Leno at 1135. Ask him how much of a fair chance Conan had when he had such a horrible lead in to the 10 news and the 1135 show. (Leno admits his show at 10 fails, surely he can admit that he created an unfavorable situation for both the news and the Tonight Show.) Like I should expect Oprah to be a prepared interviewer though..

Maple Leafs · 01-29-2010, 01:10 PM

Random observation: Oprah's interview with Jay Leno was far more confrontational and challenging than the one with Sarah Palin. That's messed up.

Greyroofoo · 02-03-2010, 05:28 PM

Conan talking with FOX?

I just really hope Conan lands somewhere soon. He still is my favorite late night host.

According to the article I guess he can't have a talk show until september. I wonder if Andy Richter can get a show that heavily features Conan.

Axxon · 02-03-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

Conan talking with FOX?

I just really hope Conan lands somewhere soon. He still is my favorite late night host.

According to the article I guess he can't have a talk show until september. I wonder if Andy Richter can get a show that heavily features Conan.

Right, so Conan can steal it from him in 7 months. Will the madness ever stop?

RedKingGold · 02-03-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Axxon

Right, so Conan can steal it from him in 7 months. Will the madness ever stop?

That would be awesome.

Axxon · 02-03-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

That would be awesome.

It really would be and the timing is perfect.

Young Drachma · 02-03-2010, 06:22 PM

Kimmel has certainly upped the ante, I'll give him that. Good clip.

Bearcat729 · 02-07-2010, 08:53 PM

NBC Will Regret Appeasing Leno - WSJ.com

NBC Will Regret Appeasing Leno
Conan was the Czechoslovakia of late-night TV.

By JOE QUEENAN

Cultural historians are desperately seeking a precedent to the Jay Leno-Conan O'Brien fiasco. They are looking in the wrong places. True, Pat Sajak, Chevy Chase and Joan Rivers all got axed from late-night talk shows after shockingly brief stints at the helm, but none of them got $32.5 million to take a hike. And none of them got replaced by the person they had replaced. And none of them pouted about getting canned for general incompetence while millions of their countrymen—who had not actually failed at their jobs—were unable to find work.

No, the most appropriate parallel to the debacle that has humiliated NBC took place in central Europe in the late 1930s. It happened at Munich.

Jay Leno, much like Adolf Hitler, is a master of making secret demands for foreign territory and then acting like the wronged party. First he pretended that he wanted to annex only the first half-hour of Mr. O'Brien's "Tonight Show." Here he was mimicking Hitler, who insisted that he merely wanted to annex the German-speaking Sudetenland, not all of Czechoslovakia.

Then, adopting the craven British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain as a role model, NBC stabbed Mr. O'Brien in the back by agreeing to let Mr. Leno reoccupy the first segment of his old "Tonight Show" slot. NBC's defense was that Mr. O'Brien had dismal ratings, and the show was a bit of a mess. But the same can be said about Czechoslovakia, a hodgepodge cobbled together after the First World War that never really got its act together.

Returning from Munich, Chamberlain joyously waved a piece of paper in the air and proclaimed that the accord with Hitler guaranteed peace in our time. Returning to Burbank, NBC officials expected the same result from its deal with Messrs. Leno and O'Brien.

Here's where the parallels become even more eerie. In acquiescing to Mr. Leno's sotto voce demands to annex one-half of "The Tonight Show," NBC thought it could put the whole ugly controversy to rest. Wrong. Interpreting generosity as weakness, Mr. Leno began to maneuver for complete control of "The Tonight Show." Here he was again taking his cue from der Fuhrer, manipulating his outgunned adversary into a position so humiliating he literally had no choice but to surrender. Just as Edward Beneš, president of Czechoslovakia, was forced to abandon ship once he had been betrayed by his erstwhile allies, Mr. O'Brien was forced to abdicate and cede his entire one-hour program to the man he had replaced. He did get a significantly bigger going-away present than Beneš, however.

Today, NBC—much like Chamberlain—is daft enough to believe that Mr. Leno's demands will now cease. If history is any guide, this is unlikely. After pocketing Czechoslovakia, Hitler immediately took dead aim at Poland. Using the same game plan, Mr. Leno will soon go after Jimmy Fallon, who follows "The Tonight Show," quite possibly demanding that NBC expand "Tonight" to its original 90-minute length.

Just as Hitler sought to return Germany to its prewar stature by acquiring Austria and the Sudetenland, Mr. Leno will seek to restore "The Tonight Show" to the mythical stature it enjoyed under his predecessor. Hitler wanted to be thought of as the second coming of Frederick Barbarossa. Mr. Leno wants to be thought of as the second coming of Johnny Carson. Joey Bishop might be more appropriate.

And just as Hitler made his annexation of Austria appear to be the Austrians' idea, Mr. Leno will need Mr. Fallon to invite him to assume command of the show. Perhaps NBC can offer him the same $32.5 million Mr. O'Brien got, and an extra $10 million not to kick up a fuss. At this point, who's counting?

Some may say that drawing comparisons between Jay Leno and Adolf Hitler is unfair. These people have obviously not been paying attention to the horrible things Messrs. O'Brien and Leno have been saying about each other the past two weeks. It's enough to make Josef Stalin blush. No, the more you look at it, the more disturbing the parallels between today's Los Angeles and yesterday's Munich seem.

NBC probably believes that once Mr. Leno controls both late-night television and late-late night television, his dreams of global conquest will be sated. Well, everyone knows what happened in the Danzig Corridor in 1939.

So if you're anchoring the 11 p.m. news program that precedes "The Tonight Show," don't get too comfortable. The blitzkrieg is right around the corner. And you're Poland.

Mr. Queenan, a satirist, is the author, most recently, of the memoir "Closing Time" (Viking, 2009).

Matthean · 02-07-2010, 09:01 PM

I don't exactly buy into all of the "It's Leno's fault" theories. NBC has much more to do with this than he does.

RainMaker · 02-08-2010, 12:47 AM

I really liked the Leno, Letterman, Oprah commercial. Smart move for everyone involved.

Toddzilla · 02-08-2010, 01:37 AM

Gotta like Leno getting on TV for free during the SuperBowl, getting CBS to pay for his commercial. Brilliant move on his part.

bronconick · 02-09-2010, 09:54 AM

Would that commercial have violated his buyout deal, I wonder?

SackAttack · 02-09-2010, 10:16 AM

From context, it doesn't look like the buyout had been completed yet when they initially broached the idea of the commercial.

That, IIRC, didn't get finalized until, like, the day before the final show anyway. So they may not have been enjoined from doing the spot, but didn't want to commit to something they might not have been contractually able to do after the settlement anyway.

Fidatelo · 02-09-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack

From context, it doesn't look like the buyout had been completed yet when they initially broached the idea of the commercial.

That, IIRC, didn't get finalized until, like, the day before the final show anyway. So they may not have been enjoined from doing the spot, but didn't want to commit to something they might not have been contractually able to do after the settlement anyway.

Maybe Conan was just smart enough to realise that a one-off joke wasn't worth not only making Leno look good in a spot, but also come off looking like a big fake (which is how Letterman comes off to me for doing that commercial).

RainMaker · 02-09-2010, 12:34 PM

For Letterman I though it was a way for him to not look as serious about it. I think at some point during his show, it started to turn from a guy poking fun to a guy who was really bitter and couldn't let something from the past go. I think this kind of gave him the chance to say that it's not all that serious in the bigger picture.

I think the bigger story is why Letterman would allow Leno some positive PR when his name had been turned to mud.

GrantDawg · 02-09-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

For Letterman I though it was a way for him to not look as serious about it. I think at some point during his show, it started to turn from a guy poking fun to a guy who was really bitter and couldn't let something from the past go. I think this kind of gave him the chance to say that it's not all that serious in the bigger picture.

I think the bigger story is why Letterman would allow Leno some positive PR when his name had been turned to mud.

Because it was funny. Letterman will do just about anything if he thought it was funny.

Samdari · 02-10-2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Because it was funny. Letterman will do just about anything if he thought it was funny.

His rule supposedly is: If its funny, we do it. And that was funny.

Chubby · 02-10-2010, 08:55 AM

So does Leno get his bonus for his show getting cancelled?

Neon_Chaos · 02-25-2010, 08:28 AM

My brother just notified me that Conan O'Brien has twitter..

http://twitter.com/conanobrien

3 new followers every second. It's pretty crazy.

edit:

He told me to keep refreshing, and yes, it's just jumping up... around 240k now...

JonInMiddleGA · 02-25-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

My brother just notified me that Conan O'Brien has twitter..

http://twitter.com/conanobrien

3 new followers every second. It's pretty crazy.

Yep, and the speculation that his next gig will be online instead of television started about 3 seconds after he opened the account. Seems to me that he's running the risk of devaluing his brand (as online only is largely seen as strictly B-list at best) even if it's purely speculation.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 02-25-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

My brother just notified me that Conan O'Brien has twitter..

http://twitter.com/conanobrien

3 new followers every second. It's pretty crazy.

edit:

He told me to keep refreshing, and yes, it's just jumping up... around 240k now...

As rough as this gig has been on Conan and his staff of late, I think he's going to emerge in a far better position than he was before this incident.

Neon_Chaos · 02-25-2010, 08:36 AM

Hah.

http://twitter.com/ConansSquirrel

Greyroofoo · 03-01-2010, 11:10 PM

So who's watching the Tonight Show with Jay Leno right now?

They began the show with a little Wizard of Oz spoof.
"I had the most crazy dream..."

Neuqua · 03-01-2010, 11:30 PM

Nope, boycotting.

Team Coco.

Greyroofoo · 03-01-2010, 11:33 PM

I need some more Conan in my life as well, but I still like Jay, especially when the alternative is watching letterman.

Neon_Chaos · 03-01-2010, 11:58 PM

No Coco.

Go Team.

Crapshoot · 03-02-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Nope, boycotting.

Team Coco.

"".

Bearcat729 · 03-02-2010, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Nope, boycotting.

Team Coco.

Logan · 03-02-2010, 07:45 AM

Anyone who has seen the promo NBC was running of the new Leno show sees exactly how stupid NBC is. They couldn't have made him look anymore smug and douchey if they tried.

Even better, find the clip of the same promo but with Radiohead's "Creep" playing over it.

Matthean · 03-02-2010, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Anyone who has seen the promo NBC was running of the new Leno show sees exactly how stupid NBC is. They couldn't have made him look anymore smug and douchey if they tried.

Even better, find the clip of the same promo but with Radiohead's "Creep" playing over it.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-02-2010, 11:24 AM

Leno beats Letterman 2.0 to 1.0 in 18-49's last night, crushed him 5.4 to 3.0 in Households. Nightline did a 1.5, Kimmell pulled a 0.9.

Before anyone asks, I looked it up. Conan was in the mid 4's for his finale, but 1.9 and 1.8 in 18-49's for the Wed & Thurs shows his last week.

Meanwhile to show you one of those quirky things about Atlanta's numbers, Nightline beat Leno & Letterman combined 18-49 in their half hour again last night with 2.9 vs 1.55 + 0.95

Greyroofoo · 03-02-2010, 10:36 PM

I admit, I LOLed at the Sarah Palin opening.

SirFozzie · 03-09-2010, 08:10 PM

Looks like the Leno bump is either dying very quickly or is already dead.. these are the early numbers.

David Letterman beat Jay Leno in the adult demo Monday night. CBS' "Late Show" drew 4.2 million viewers and a 1.3 in the demo compared to NBC's "Tonight Show" bringing in 4.4 million viewers and 1.1 in the demo. Dave's guests were nothing special -- Kelly Ripa and Lady Antebellum.

So why the upset? Lead-in! CBS won Monday night primetime, NBC was a distant fourth place with the likes of "Trauma" and "Law & Order."

Galaxy · 03-09-2010, 08:47 PM

Interesting. Leno seems even more boring than ever (which isn't hard to do).

Crapshoot · 03-09-2010, 08:55 PM

Maybe the universe has a soul after all....

JonInMiddleGA · 03-09-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Looks like the Leno bump is either dying very quickly or is already dead.. these are the early numbers.

He's still winning total viewers & that's the basis he's been sold on for years. Anybody buying him for 18-49 wasn't/isn't all that sharp.

And Lady Antebellum was likely enough to make the 18-49 difference as their appeal is on the younger country demos.

Matthean · 03-10-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

My brother just notified me that Conan O'Brien has twitter..

http://twitter.com/conanobrien

3 new followers every second. It's pretty crazy.

edit:

He told me to keep refreshing, and yes, it's just jumping up... around 240k now...

Conan decided to follow a random person and here's what followed.

Meet Sarah Killen, the One Person Conan O'Brien Is Following on Twitter | PopEater.com

She lives one town away from where I grew up.

MikeVic · 03-10-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Conan decided to follow a random person and here's what followed.

Meet Sarah Killen, the One Person Conan O'Brien Is Following on Twitter | PopEater.com

She lives one town away from where I grew up.

That's cool!

Passacaglia · 03-10-2010, 12:56 PM

I remember seeing the sign for Fowlerville on I-96 every time I drove across the state. Exit 129, right? I think I stopped at a Dairy Queen there a few times.

Fidatelo · 03-10-2010, 01:17 PM

I became one of the many following that girl on Twitter after Conan tweeted about following her, and let me tell you, that was a mistake. That girl tweets some useless bullshit and seems to constantly be requesting money for stuff. I wish my twitter app would let me unfollow, because I'm too lazy to log in to the website and do it but in the meantime she's pissing me off.

And yes, I could have logged in and unfollowed in the time it took to write this post, but it's more fun to complain.

Young Drachma · 03-10-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I became one of the many following that girl on Twitter after Conan tweeted about following her, and let me tell you, that was a mistake. That girl tweets some useless bullshit and seems to constantly be requesting money for stuff. I wish my twitter app would let me unfollow, because I'm too lazy to log in to the website and do it but in the meantime she's pissing me off.

And yes, I could have logged in and unfollowed in the time it took to write this post, but it's more fun to complain.

How long before she calls off her wedding and heads to Hollywood for a reality show?

Samdari · 03-10-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

tweets some useless bullshit

Isn't that 98% of twitter?

01-24-2010, 03:05 AM	#551
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01-24-2010, 10:07 AM	#553
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	It was the Max Weinberg Seven, Ben Harper (the guy that was seated and picking), Beck, and the dude from ZZ Top. Not sure who the girl was. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

01-26-2010, 02:20 PM	#556
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Thought this was an interesting look back: Jay Leno Criticizes NBC On 'Tonight' Cliffhanger - Biography - NYTimes.com __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-29-2010, 10:14 AM	#557
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Jimmy Kimmel responding to Leno's "sucker punch" claim he made on Oprah: __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-29-2010, 01:10 PM	#560
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Random observation: Oprah's interview with Jay Leno was far more confrontational and challenging than the one with Sarah Palin. That's messed up. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

01-24-2010, 05:35 AM	#552
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Jimmy Viveno, I think. He's part of the Tonight Show band, or was, if I'm not mistaken?

01-29-2010, 10:42 AM	#558
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Jimmy has made nearly as much hay off this situation as Conan has. Very funny stuff.

01-29-2010, 11:03 AM	#559
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	Read the transcript of Oprah's interview, the only thing that bothered me is that she didn't counter Jay's points on Conan's ratings. Maybe the poor ratings were all Conan's fault, maybe he (or a different new host) could have done better. But when Leno acts like Conan had his chance and blew it, why not bring up how Leno struggled his first year and still got his full chance. How he thought it unfair when NBC courted Letterman after less than a year of Leno at 1135. Ask him how much of a fair chance Conan had when he had such a horrible lead in to the 10 news and the 1135 show. (Leno admits his show at 10 fails, surely he can admit that he created an unfavorable situation for both the news and the Tonight Show.) Like I should expect Oprah to be a prepared interviewer though..

02-03-2010, 05:28 PM	#561
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	Conan talking with FOX? I just really hope Conan lands somewhere soon. He still is my favorite late night host. According to the article I guess he can't have a talk show until september. I wonder if Andy Richter can get a show that heavily features Conan.

02-03-2010, 06:22 PM	#565
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Kimmel has certainly upped the ante, I'll give him that. Good clip. __________________ FBCB / FPB3 Mods

02-07-2010, 08:53 PM	#566
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	NBC Will Regret Appeasing Leno - WSJ.com NBC Will Regret Appeasing Leno Conan was the Czechoslovakia of late-night TV. By JOE QUEENAN Cultural historians are desperately seeking a precedent to the Jay Leno-Conan O'Brien fiasco. They are looking in the wrong places. True, Pat Sajak, Chevy Chase and Joan Rivers all got axed from late-night talk shows after shockingly brief stints at the helm, but none of them got $32.5 million to take a hike. And none of them got replaced by the person they had replaced. And none of them pouted about getting canned for general incompetence while millions of their countrymen—who had not actually failed at their jobs—were unable to find work. No, the most appropriate parallel to the debacle that has humiliated NBC took place in central Europe in the late 1930s. It happened at Munich. Jay Leno, much like Adolf Hitler, is a master of making secret demands for foreign territory and then acting like the wronged party. First he pretended that he wanted to annex only the first half-hour of Mr. O'Brien's "Tonight Show." Here he was mimicking Hitler, who insisted that he merely wanted to annex the German-speaking Sudetenland, not all of Czechoslovakia. Then, adopting the craven British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain as a role model, NBC stabbed Mr. O'Brien in the back by agreeing to let Mr. Leno reoccupy the first segment of his old "Tonight Show" slot. NBC's defense was that Mr. O'Brien had dismal ratings, and the show was a bit of a mess. But the same can be said about Czechoslovakia, a hodgepodge cobbled together after the First World War that never really got its act together. Returning from Munich, Chamberlain joyously waved a piece of paper in the air and proclaimed that the accord with Hitler guaranteed peace in our time. Returning to Burbank, NBC officials expected the same result from its deal with Messrs. Leno and O'Brien. Here's where the parallels become even more eerie. In acquiescing to Mr. Leno's sotto voce demands to annex one-half of "The Tonight Show," NBC thought it could put the whole ugly controversy to rest. Wrong. Interpreting generosity as weakness, Mr. Leno began to maneuver for complete control of "The Tonight Show." Here he was again taking his cue from der Fuhrer, manipulating his outgunned adversary into a position so humiliating he literally had no choice but to surrender. Just as Edward Beneš, president of Czechoslovakia, was forced to abandon ship once he had been betrayed by his erstwhile allies, Mr. O'Brien was forced to abdicate and cede his entire one-hour program to the man he had replaced. He did get a significantly bigger going-away present than Beneš, however. Today, NBC—much like Chamberlain—is daft enough to believe that Mr. Leno's demands will now cease. If history is any guide, this is unlikely. After pocketing Czechoslovakia, Hitler immediately took dead aim at Poland. Using the same game plan, Mr. Leno will soon go after Jimmy Fallon, who follows "The Tonight Show," quite possibly demanding that NBC expand "Tonight" to its original 90-minute length. Just as Hitler sought to return Germany to its prewar stature by acquiring Austria and the Sudetenland, Mr. Leno will seek to restore "The Tonight Show" to the mythical stature it enjoyed under his predecessor. Hitler wanted to be thought of as the second coming of Frederick Barbarossa. Mr. Leno wants to be thought of as the second coming of Johnny Carson. Joey Bishop might be more appropriate. And just as Hitler made his annexation of Austria appear to be the Austrians' idea, Mr. Leno will need Mr. Fallon to invite him to assume command of the show. Perhaps NBC can offer him the same $32.5 million Mr. O'Brien got, and an extra $10 million not to kick up a fuss. At this point, who's counting? Some may say that drawing comparisons between Jay Leno and Adolf Hitler is unfair. These people have obviously not been paying attention to the horrible things Messrs. O'Brien and Leno have been saying about each other the past two weeks. It's enough to make Josef Stalin blush. No, the more you look at it, the more disturbing the parallels between today's Los Angeles and yesterday's Munich seem. NBC probably believes that once Mr. Leno controls both late-night television and late-late night television, his dreams of global conquest will be sated. Well, everyone knows what happened in the Danzig Corridor in 1939. So if you're anchoring the 11 p.m. news program that precedes "The Tonight Show," don't get too comfortable. The blitzkrieg is right around the corner. And you're Poland. Mr. Queenan, a satirist, is the author, most recently, of the memoir "Closing Time" (Viking, 2009). __________________ Bearcat729 on XBox Live and PSN

02-07-2010, 09:01 PM	#567
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	I don't exactly buy into all of the "It's Leno's fault" theories. NBC has much more to do with this than he does. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

02-08-2010, 12:47 AM	#568
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I really liked the Leno, Letterman, Oprah commercial. Smart move for everyone involved.

02-08-2010, 01:37 AM	#569
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Gotta like Leno getting on TV for free during the SuperBowl, getting CBS to pay for his commercial. Brilliant move on his part.

02-09-2010, 09:54 AM	#570
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Would that commercial have violated his buyout deal, I wonder?

02-09-2010, 10:16 AM	#571
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	From context, it doesn't look like the buyout had been completed yet when they initially broached the idea of the commercial. That, IIRC, didn't get finalized until, like, the day before the final show anyway. So they may not have been enjoined from doing the spot, but didn't want to commit to something they might not have been contractually able to do after the settlement anyway.

02-09-2010, 12:34 PM	#573
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	For Letterman I though it was a way for him to not look as serious about it. I think at some point during his show, it started to turn from a guy poking fun to a guy who was really bitter and couldn't let something from the past go. I think this kind of gave him the chance to say that it's not all that serious in the bigger picture. I think the bigger story is why Letterman would allow Leno some positive PR when his name had been turned to mud.

02-10-2010, 08:55 AM	#576
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	So does Leno get his bonus for his show getting cancelled?

02-25-2010, 08:28 AM	#577
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	My brother just notified me that Conan O'Brien has twitter.. http://twitter.com/conanobrien 3 new followers every second. It's pretty crazy. edit: He told me to keep refreshing, and yes, it's just jumping up... around 240k now... __________________ Come and see. Last edited by Neon_Chaos : 02-25-2010 at 08:31 AM.

02-25-2010, 08:36 AM	#580
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Hah. http://twitter.com/ConansSquirrel __________________ Come and see.

03-01-2010, 11:10 PM	#581
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	So who's watching the Tonight Show with Jay Leno right now? They began the show with a little Wizard of Oz spoof. "I had the most crazy dream..."

03-01-2010, 11:30 PM	#582
Neuqua Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago, Ill	Nope, boycotting. Team Coco. __________________ Our Deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?

03-01-2010, 11:33 PM	#583
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	I need some more Conan in my life as well, but I still like Jay, especially when the alternative is watching letterman.

03-01-2010, 11:58 PM	#584
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	No Coco. Go Team. __________________ Come and see.

03-02-2010, 07:45 AM	#587
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Anyone who has seen the promo NBC was running of the new Leno show sees exactly how stupid NBC is. They couldn't have made him look anymore smug and douchey if they tried. Even better, find the clip of the same promo but with Radiohead's "Creep" playing over it.

03-02-2010, 11:24 AM	#589
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Leno beats Letterman 2.0 to 1.0 in 18-49's last night, crushed him 5.4 to 3.0 in Households. Nightline did a 1.5, Kimmell pulled a 0.9. Before anyone asks, I looked it up. Conan was in the mid 4's for his finale, but 1.9 and 1.8 in 18-49's for the Wed & Thurs shows his last week. Meanwhile to show you one of those quirky things about Atlanta's numbers, Nightline beat Leno & Letterman combined 18-49 in their half hour again last night with 2.9 vs 1.55 + 0.95 __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

03-02-2010, 10:36 PM	#590
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	I admit, I LOLed at the Sarah Palin opening.

03-09-2010, 08:10 PM	#591
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Looks like the Leno bump is either dying very quickly or is already dead.. these are the early numbers. David Letterman beat Jay Leno in the adult demo Monday night. CBS' "Late Show" drew 4.2 million viewers and a 1.3 in the demo compared to NBC's "Tonight Show" bringing in 4.4 million viewers and 1.1 in the demo. Dave's guests were nothing special -- Kelly Ripa and Lady Antebellum. So why the upset? Lead-in! CBS won Monday night primetime, NBC was a distant fourth place with the likes of "Trauma" and "Law & Order." __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

03-09-2010, 08:47 PM	#592
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Interesting. Leno seems even more boring than ever (which isn't hard to do).

03-09-2010, 08:55 PM	#593
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Maybe the universe has a soul after all....

03-10-2010, 12:56 PM	#597
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I remember seeing the sign for Fowlerville on I-96 every time I drove across the state. Exit 129, right? I think I stopped at a Dairy Queen there a few times.

03-10-2010, 01:17 PM	#598
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I became one of the many following that girl on Twitter after Conan tweeted about following her, and let me tell you, that was a mistake. That girl tweets some useless bullshit and seems to constantly be requesting money for stuff. I wish my twitter app would let me unfollow, because I'm too lazy to log in to the website and do it but in the meantime she's pissing me off. And yes, I could have logged in and unfollowed in the time it took to write this post, but it's more fun to complain. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

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