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Old 09-10-2012, 10:44 PM   #551
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:49 PM   #552
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:19 PM   #553
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So I follow fantasy football but I guess I don't pay a ton of attention or just forgot, but that info graphic about the Raiders D last year was pretty bad!!
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:37 PM   #554
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I thought the raiders were supposed to have some vertical game or something? This is pretty boring, I think I'm the only one watching!
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:17 AM   #555
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:53 AM   #556
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:50 AM   #557
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What was that?

They're my team, but I've seen this a lot since 1990.


Yup, no way they're over .500 this year. Happens every time there's a bit of hope. Next year, with the crap schedule, they'll go 11-5 and make people think they've turned the corner again.
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:08 AM   #558
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Yup, no way they're over .500 this year. Happens every time there's a bit of hope. Next year, with the crap schedule, they'll go 11-5 and make people think they've turned the corner again.

That game last night reminded me a lot of what Baltimore did to Pittsburgh in the opener last year. I was pleasantly surprised at how the Bengals did for parts of the game last night. I was really worried about their offensive line, but they were ok. The LB's and DB's were putrid.
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Old 09-11-2012, 08:52 AM   #559
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Yeah, the back seven looked really awful.

I don't think the Bengals have covered a TE in the past twenty years.
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Old 09-11-2012, 09:27 AM   #560
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The offense seemed... decent, even without a lot of proven WR weapons. Green-Ellis averaged 5 yards a carry... so he should tear apart some lesser D's.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:13 AM   #561
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So Jonathan Vilma is placed on the PUP list and now there are feelers being put out for another meeting with Goodell. Sounds like the beginnings of a good conspiracy theory.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:35 AM   #562
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Fuck!!! The Raiders are so bad they can't even help me out. Now I know how Raiders fans feel when you see your team self destruct right in front of you.
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Old 09-11-2012, 11:44 AM   #563
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San Francisco 49ers UNDER 10 wins. Last season felt like a "everything that could go right did go right" season for them.

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Anyone who would describe the 49ers season like this, obviously didn't watch many of their games. In fact, if you've been following the 49ers for the past few seasons, I'd argue that the Singletary era (which had many of the same players) was a collection of games where absolutely everything that could go wrong, did. Last year the 49ers played lights out football. That's why they won so many games.

Ummm . . . uh . . . well . . . yeah. So maybe you had a point
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:02 PM   #564
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Okay, I know the Bengals got their asses kicked and I'm not saying it would have completely changed the course of the game... but that refereeing last night was god awful. The AJ Green 'no-catch', the fake Anquan Boldin TD, the PI on Leon Hall which was a great defensive play... unbelievable

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Old 09-11-2012, 12:03 PM   #565
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The offense seemed... decent, even without a lot of proven WR weapons. Green-Ellis averaged 5 yards a carry... so he should tear apart some lesser D's.

On the bright side, Baby Hawk is a playmaker
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:30 PM   #566
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Okay, I know the Bengals got their asses kicked and I'm not saying it would have completely changed the course of the game... but that refereeing last night was god awful. The AJ Green 'no-catch', the fake Anquan Boldin TD, the PI on Leon Hall which was a great defensive play... unbelievable

Perreira agreed with the Green no catch call on Twitter. I didn't see what his response to the Boldin play was.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:32 PM   #567
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I didn't see anything that proved without a doubt that Boldin didn't catch that ball.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:57 PM   #568
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I didn't see anything that proved without a doubt that Boldin didn't catch that ball.

That's why the ref said the play 'stands'. Had he said the play was 'confirmed', then he had visual evidence that it was a catch.

I think the ball hit the ground.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:04 PM   #569
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Ummm . . . uh . . . well . . . yeah. So maybe you had a point

I was joking with my friend before the game. I said "I think the Packers win by 6, but it's a close game the whole way. What I love though, is that I can hope for the 49ers to completely crush the Packers, and it's not out of the question."

You really couldn't have drawn up a better week one scenario. The 49ers controlled the hell out of that game, and it was only when they stopped the aggressive pass rush that the Packers were able to move the ball late in the game.

It's just one game, but it's really hard not to let expectations get huge at this point.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:15 PM   #570
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It's nice to see that they are already doing Thursday night games. As someone that can't stand college football, I think this is great.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:18 PM   #571
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Yup, no way they're over .500 this year. Happens every time there's a bit of hope. Next year, with the crap schedule, they'll go 11-5 and make people think they've turned the corner again.

You guys are being way too pessimistic. They'll finish 9-7 and in the hunt for a wildcard. No Dunlap. No Kirkpatrick. No Cook. Give it time.

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Old 09-11-2012, 04:23 PM   #572
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Yup, no way they're over .500 this year. Happens every time there's a bit of hope. Next year, with the crap schedule, they'll go 11-5 and make people think they've turned the corner again.



You guys are being way too pessimistic. They'll finish 9-7 and in the hunt for a wildcard. No Dunlap. No Kirkpatrick. No Cook. Give it time.
I disagree. With the caliber of QB that they play, I'm not looking for more than 6 wins. Their DB and LB have to get a hell of a lot better to win more than that.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:26 PM   #573
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I thought the O-line was good. Didn't have like 6 drive-killing false start penalties like usual.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:35 PM   #574
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For all of the Manning love, the balls he threw did not look as sharp as normal. Those wobbly throws will get pick 6'd when he faces a team with some ball hawk corners. The Steelers have never had those type of corners before.
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Old 09-11-2012, 04:43 PM   #575
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For all of the Manning love, the balls he threw did not look as sharp as normal. Those wobbly throws will get pick 6'd when he faces a team with some ball hawk corners. The Steelers have never had those type of corners before.

I was wondering about that as well and for a while just chalked it up as "naw, i´m propably just seeing that because of all the talk about that injury affecting arm strength, not because it´s actually happening", but there really were a number of them throughout the game.

Even so, it was just damn impressive to see him manage that offense.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:14 PM   #576
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For all of the Manning love, the balls he threw did not look as sharp as normal. Those wobbly throws will get pick 6'd when he faces a team with some ball hawk corners. The Steelers have never had those type of corners before.

He's always thrown a wobbly, ugly looking ball...his brother is no different.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:38 PM   #577
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:48 PM   #578
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:35 PM   #579
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:31 PM   #580
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Old 09-11-2012, 07:34 PM   #581
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:05 PM   #582
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:11 AM   #583
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I thought Boyz II Men would be fans of the Detroit Eagles.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:37 PM   #584
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No, they're from Philly, aren't they?
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:38 PM   #585
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:09 PM   #586
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Well, Motown Philly. So...Detroit Eagles...get it?
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Old 12-31-2012, 02:52 PM   #587
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My random guesses/thoughts on OVER/UNDER numbers I got from a random website:

Green Bay Packers UNDER 12 wins. HIT. 12 is such a hard number to get.

New England Patriots OVER 12 wins. PUSH. Unless you are Bill Belichick.

Houston Texans OVER 10 wins. HIT. Went pretty much like I thought it would.

Philadelphia Eagles UNDER 10 wins. HIT. Went exactly how I thought it would.

New Orleans Saints UNDER 10 wins. HIT. Turns out that head coaches do matter.

Pittsburgh Steelers UNDER 10 wins. HIT. Maybe not as good as we think they are?

Baltimore Ravens OVER 10 wins. PUSH. Very little confidence in this team.

San Francisco 49ers UNDER 10 wins. MISS. I was a hater. I should not have been a hater.

Denver Broncos UNDER 9.5 wins. MISS. Yeah, I misunderestimated Manning. But worse than that, I misunderestimated John Fox.

New York Giants OVER 9.5 wins. MISS. I probably understand this team less than any team in football.

Detroit Lions UNDER 9.5 wins. HIT.

San Diego Chargers OVER 9 wins. MISS. This team had to have the least inspiring 7 wins of all time this season.

Atlanta Falcons UNDER 9 wins. MISS. I should not have been a hater. Also, where does Tony Gonzalez rank among all-time football players? Isn't what he's done and how long he's done it outside of typical classification metrics?

Chicago Bears OVER 8.5 wins. HIT. Lovie Smith will land somewhere and succeed.

Dallas Cowboys OVER 8.5 wins. MISS. Would have been a push but for that stupid half-point.

New York Jets UNDER 8.5 wins. HIT. Might have been the easiest play on the board.

Kansas City Chiefs OVER 8 wins. MISS. Apparently, there was a point this pre-season where we all agreed that 8 wins was a rational expectation for the Kansas City Chiefs. Except for me. I thought that was too low.

Cincinnati Bengals OVER 7.5 wins. HIT. Maybe the most underrated team in the league right now.

Carolina Panthers UNDER 7.5 wins. HIT. Gotta love the half-point.

Miami Dolphins UNDER 7.5 wins. HIT. Future looking bright in Miami. I've always liked the Dolphins, so I hope that they can build on this season.

Tennessee Titans UNDER 7 wins. HIT. My crazy offseason speculation. Tennessee decides to part ways with CJ2K. The Pats pick him up for cheap and turn him into the most dangerous 15-touches-per-game weapon in the league.

Buffalo Bills OVER 7 wins. MISS. Who knew that Fitzgerald was a bad QB? I had the Bills challenging the Pats the season. I know much less about football that I thought I did.

Seattle Seahawks OVER 7 wins. HIT. My notes on this pick were "people seem to love the new QB."

Oakland Raiders OVER 7 wins. MISS. Worth repeating: I know much less about football than I thought I did.

Arizona Cardinals UNDER 7 wins. HIT. What a strange season.

Washington Redskins UNDER 6.5 wins. MISS. RGIII is so awesome, I don't even mind being wrong here.

St. Louis Rams OVER 6 wins. HIT. How would we feel about Steven Jackson if he played for the Pats or Packers or Steelers? Criminally underrated player.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers OVER 6 wins. HIT. I was right about this. But, man, that does not feel like a seven win team.

Minnesota Vikings UNDER 6 wins. MISS. AP made me miss this all by himself.

Cleveland Browns UNDER 5.5 wins. HIT. What will the new management do with Weeden?

Indianapolis Colts OVER 5.5 wins. HIT. Good for them.

Jacksonville Jaguars UNDER 5.5 wins. HIT. What to do with this team?

Total Record: 19-11-2. I benefited by missing some of my picks by a lot, but by getting most of the close ones. And, of course, by not having actual money on the line that would have caused me to over-think these and mess up most of them.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:57 AM   #588
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On Denver, I think the key here was in Peyton Manning, John Fox got his offensive coordinator, which let him concentrate on the defense he's good at.
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