Werewolf LXII -- The BCS (Racer and Swaggs win)

[Racer]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

I think we've found the wolf scout, St. Cronin, and equipment manager, Molson, leaving the lobbyist and saboteur still at large.

When was it concluded Molson was a detractor? I reread the last page and from what I could gather it had been narrowed down to you and Molson. Am I overlooking something?

[Racer]

By the way, if Molson and St. Cronin are indeed detractors, I would suggest scanning Barkeep or Chief Rum in my conference. I am the equipment manager and Swaggs is the scout (the same roles as Molson and St. Cronin).

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Man, I lost to Team 30? That sucks!

You know, it would be fun to know the rolls in the honest games. I hope Pass is keeping track. That way, I know if I erred too far in going with 30 instead of 25 let's say (a decision I made last night), or if I was screwed no matter what (roll came up, like, 2, or something).

I plan to publish my spreadsheet after the game is over, which has this info, including what your roll would have been for games that were thrown.

[Passacaglia]

By the way, I'm back!

[Mr. Wednesday]

With respect to Molson, I didn't remember that we had raised serious questions about dectractor status, rather that it was a situation where there was a risk of getting the at-large bid by an unknown. I'll have to go back at some point and see if something more definitive was offered.

[Chief Rum]

My usual public vote post before leaving for the day.

Public Poll

1. Chief Rum
2. Racer
3. Barkeep
4. Swaggs
5. Render

and for sanctions...

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

He has the most points of the at larges; might as well bring him back to the pack.

Since the schedule is set, I assume I don't have to announce who I am playing or nothing.

[Alan T]

Hmm.. looks to me that Racer has the most power points, I am sure that has to do with some form of inappropriate contributions from alumni!

Vote Racer

Since everyone is too scared to play me, guess I will play a different team..

Schedule team 39

[molson]

PUBLIC POLL

1. Chesapeake
2. Lathum
3. Molson
4. Racer
5. Mr. Wednesday

[Racer]

I've looked through the thread and from what I can tell, Molson is suspected to be a wolf because Lathum has been cleared and Alan T (now path12) and Chesapeake have contributed more in this thread. Is that correct?

Anyways, below are the teams Chesapeake, Molson, Path12, and St Cronin scheduled in their non-conference schedule.

Molson - Racer (loss), team 40 (win), Team 65 (win), Barkeep (loss) * only week 4 game scheduled between 2 humans
Path12 - Team 50 (loss), team 35 (loss), Team 20 (loss), team 88 (loss)
Chesapeake - Jeheinz (loss), Anxiety (loss) * only week 3 game scheduled between 2 humans, ntndeacon (win), team 40 (loss)
St. Cronin - team 35 (win), team 37(win), team 45 (loss), team 40 (loss)

I think it would have been to the wolves' advantage to schedule each other in week 1. That could have not happened though since according to Chesapeake, Molson and I share the same role.

[Racer]

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. Swaggs
3. Chief Rum
4. Barkeep
5. Alan T

Vote St. Cronin

Since it appears he's a wolf, I'd like to minimize his chances of getting his conference's at-large bid.

[RendeR]

Does anyone have a solid list of players we should NOT be voting for in either poll?

[Racer]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Does anyone have a solid list of players we should NOT be voting for in either poll?

It really doesn't matter until the final day.

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by Racer

By the way, if Molson and St. Cronin are indeed detractors, I would suggest scanning Barkeep or Chief Rum in my conference. I am the equipment manager and Swaggs is the scout (the same roles as Molson and St. Cronin).

CR seemes more likely to me, but that is just a hunch. Folks are also welcome to scan me, if they like. I am neither Catholic nor wolf.

BK makes a good point -- we are way behind in finding the Catholics.

[Lathum]

does conference play begin today?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

does conference play begin today?

Yes.

[Mr. Wednesday]

PUBLIC POLL
1. Racer
2. Mr. Wednesday
3. chesapeake
4. claphamsa
5. jeheinz72

[Mr. Wednesday]

After claphamsa, who's in my own conference, Barkeep has the most points of any at-large team, and is still suspect.

VOTE Barkeep49

[Lathum]

Vote Molson

[path12]

Originally Posted by Racer

When was it concluded Molson was a detractor? I reread the last page and from what I could gather it had been narrowed down to you and Molson. Am I overlooking something?

I agree with you. Chesapeake has been pushing this point hard, which I usually find suspicious. Of course, Molson hasn't exactly been strenuously denying anything either, so I'm not sure what to make of that.

[Racer]

I have a question for Pass. Can I PM just you and one or two members of my conference or do I have to include everyone in my conference when sending any PMs?

[chesapeake]

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. Mr. W
3. Claphamsa
4. Jeheinz
5. Barkeep

Vote St. Cronin

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by Racer

When was it concluded Molson was a detractor? I reread the last page and from what I could gather it had been narrowed down to you and Molson. Am I overlooking something?

It was concluded for me when Lathum was cleared. Obviously, others will feel differently.

I argued as hard as I did because I believed that it was more valuable to sanction Molson last turn than it was to sanction jeheinz. As it turned out, the wolves smacked jeheinz but good, so both of them took equal hits.

Quiet today.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Racer

I have a question for Pass. Can I PM just you and one or two members of my conference or do I have to include everyone in my conference when sending any PMs?

You may PM freely with members of your conference.

[path12]

PUBLIC POLL

1) Chesapeake
2) Racer
3) Mr. W
4) Lathum
5) Molson

VOTE BARKEEP

[jeheinz72]

VOTE BARKEEP

PUBLIC POLL
1. jeheinz72
2. SnDvls
3. RendeR
4. Anxiety
5. Barkeep

[claphamsa]

vote heinz

[SnDvls]

it's a busy day here at work today so I'll just throw this together and to be fair will only vote myself today

public poll
1. SnDvls

no sancations

[Racer]

I think this is the current vote count.

Barkeep49 3
St. Cronin 2
Claphamsa 1
Racer 1
Molson 1
Jeheinz 1
No Sanctions 1

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Racer

I think this is the current vote count.

Barkeep49 3
St. Cronin 2
Claphamsa 1
Racer 1
Molson 1
Jeheinz 1
No Sanctions 1

I pretty much have that, too. The only difference is that Notre Dame doesn't get a vote.

[Abe Sargent]

Vote Claphamsa

[Racer]

Unvote St. Cronin
Vote Claphamsa

This vote is to avoid a tie and I'm not ready vote for anyone in my conference yet. If there are enough people on the board who want to go with St. Cronin, I will switch my vote back to him.

[Barkeep49]

Vote clap

[Racer]

Well I guess I created a tie, but again, I'd prefer to keep the vote out of my conference for now.

[RendeR]

ARRgghhh....ok, sorry, this 2pm central deadline simply doesn't work for me =) I'll have to take those games off in the future. between kids and work I just can't keep up well.

[Passacaglia]

Public Poll
1. Hoosier State Huskers (Racer)
2. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)
3. Mr. Wednesday
4. SnDvls
5. Chief Rum
5. jeheinz72

Private Poll
1. St. Cronin's University Blue Man Group (st.cronin)
2. University Falls Church Crushers (chesapeake)
3. U of BK Drones (Barkeep49)
4. Notre Dame (Alan T)
5. SnDvls
5. Mr. Wednesday
5. Chief Rum
5. Lathum

[Passacaglia]

Day 5 Results

Mr. Wednesday LOSES TO ntndeacon
claphamsa DEFEATS st.cronin
RendeR LOSES TO SnDvls
Anxiety LOSES TO jeheinz72
chesapeake DEFEATS molson
Lathum DEFEATS path12
Racer DEFEATS Chief Rum
Barkeep49 DEFEATS Swaggs
Alan T LOSES TO Team 39

[Barkeep49]

Pass you have me losing to NTN, who I didn't play.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Pass you have me losing to NTN, who I didn't play.

Thanks. Fixed.

[SnDvls]

I'm confused

how do I lose to someone who has a neg. chance at beating me? something isn't right?

[SnDvls]

dola---

oops I read it wrong nevermind

[Passacaglia]

st.cronin chesapeake (571)
Barkeep49 Mr. Wednesday (567) path12 (574) jeheinz72 (575)
molson Lathum (568)
jeheinz72 claphamsa (576)
claphamsa Chief Rum (556) Anxierty (580) Racer (581) Barkeep49 (582)
No Sanctions SnDvls (577)

After much deliberation, the BCS Conferences decide that once again, sanctions are necessary. This time, the smaller schools follow along with the big schools, and claphamsa is chosen to receive sanctions.

[Passacaglia]

Computer Rankings

1. Racer 188
2. chesapeake 164
3. Mr. Wednesday 162
4. Barkeep49 146
5. ntndeacon 136
6. jeheinz72 131
7. claphamsa 106
8. Chief Rum 105
9. Swaggs 93
10. Alan T 82
11. Lathum 68
12. st.cronin 62
13. molson 55
14. SnDvls 30
15. Anxiety 23
16. path12 -10
16. RendeR -10

[Passacaglia]

BCS Rankings

1. chesapeake
2. Mr. Wednesday
2. Racer
4. Barkeep49
5. Chief Rum
6. SnDvls

[Passacaglia]

Conference Standings

Big 3
-------
Racer 1-0
Barkeep49 1-0
Chief Rum 0-1
Swaggs 0-1

Four Horsemen
---------------------
jeheinz72 1-0
SnDvls 1-0
Anxiety 0-1
RendeR 0-1

Sorry Excuse for Coaches
-------------------------------------
chesapeake 1-0
Lathum 1-0
molson 0-1
path12 0-1

Transylvania Werewolf Conference
------------------------------------------------
ntndeacon 1-0
claphamsa 1-0
Mr. Wednesday 0-1
st.cronin 0-1

[Racer]

Well it looks like I took a 27 or 28 point hit.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Racer

Unvote St. Cronin
Vote Claphamsa

This vote is to avoid a tie and I'm not ready vote for anyone in my conference yet. If there are enough people on the board who want to go with St. Cronin, I will switch my vote back to him.

ur causing a tie not breking one!

Very suspicious!

[ntndeacon]

Pass you said I beat Mr. Wednesday. but you did not give me credit with it in the standings or computer rankings

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

After much deliberation, the BCS Conferences decide that once again, sanctions are necessary. This time, the smaller schools follow along with the big schools, and claphamsa is chosen to receive sanctions.

Jerks! Dont hate the playa hate the game!

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Pass you said I beat Mr. Wednesday. but you did not give me credit with it in the standings or computer rankings

Thanks. This one will take a while to fix!

[Racer]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

ur causing a tie not breking one!

Very suspicious!

Yeah I realized that after I posted it. Like I said after posting it, I didn't want one of the teams in my own conference to be sanctioned yet. I would have gladly put my vote back on St. Cronin if that's where the voted would have been.