WW - The Princess Bride (Game Over - Wolves Win)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Another misc note. Every game I see Lathum play lately he says either or both of these things day one. That voting for ntn is a convenient/easy place to hide vote and/or that "so and so" is a good villager and therefore not voting for them (whether it's true lately or not). I find THAT fact very "convenient/easy to hide" myself. I realize this puts me on his "Oh you mentioned my name, I'm going after you now" whatever list, but I'm okay with that I think. Just don't know as he is good at disguising whether he's a wolf or a villager in what he says.

per the NTN thing that is because it is true. Every game someone points out he has been quiet. I would just like to see a better reason than that considering NTN has played that way for 5 years or so.

[Narcizo]

Hmmm.. Autumn and Packer were both on MrBug. If you want to over-analyze then you could say that voting Packer was a way to protect MrBug. Unfortunately for the neat theory Pass starts talking about Packer being a suspect before Packer votes, although his vote only moves there after Packer has voted MrBug.

Pass seemed to be leaving his options open to move his vote to Jackal which also suggest Bug as an accomplice.

Incidentally the Autumn-Pass conversation yesterday nudges my trust of Autumn up a few notches. Not past the two of them to chatter like that as wolves but it's not really the sort of thing I'd expect.

[mauchow]

I don't really have any analysis to offer unfortunately. My vote and Danny is partially a joke and was made without reading what's happened over last few hours. I just finished catching up to thread and will change my vote shortly.

[CrimsonFox]

the whole killing both candidates thing. I've seen it used before.

[Narcizo]

Not of this speculation on my part has much/anything to do with my results from last night, btw.

[Telle]

Well having not seen anything too horribly suspicious in the past couple of days, I think I'm going to continue with my earlier thoughts of not liking the disappearing run on Chief on Day 1.

Btw, I'm here and not today. I'm home getting some stuff done around the house, so I'm logged in but afk for the most part. And I'll be leaving at about 5:30pm Eastern for knitting group and won't be back until after deadline.

vote Chief Rum

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Lathum

per the NTN thing that is because it is true. Every game someone points out he has been quiet. I would just like to see a better reason than that considering NTN has played that way for 5 years or so.

I can understand that. But you must note that people do get frustrated by quiet people not giving any reads whatsoever and thus they are trying to either draw them out or get rid of them (quiet people) because it makes the second half of the game hard for the village. That's why I don't think a quiet person votge day 1 is a bad or suspicious vote. Quite the opposite. Especially since later in the game is not when you want to vote for quiet people simply because they aren't there and you have no read on them. Cause that's a crapshoot. That's all I'm saying.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Telle

Well having not seen anything too horribly suspicious in the past couple of days, I think I'm going to continue with my earlier thoughts of not liking the disappearing run on Chief on Day 1.

Btw, I'm here and not today. I'm home getting some stuff done around the house, so I'm logged in but afk for the most part. And I'll be leaving at about 5:30pm Eastern for knitting group and won't be back until after deadline.

vote Chief Rum

You understand why that happened right? You also understand I had no control over that, and yet, you're voting me?

[CrimsonFox]

i do admit there is a difference between voting for a usually quiet person and an abnormally quiet person.

[CrimsonFox]

And speaking of which. I do want to vote for a quiet person and lathum/bug are pinging me as such. Ergo,

vote lathum

just a hunch about em.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

You understand why that happened right? You also understand I had no control over that, and yet, you're voting me?

It could have happened if you're a wolf and your wolf buddies helped bring attention elsewhere. I just find it mildly suspicious and worth pursuing in absence of any truly damning evidence elsewhere.

[Lathum]

vote count?

[Narcizo]

Telle, I really don't think that the fact that three people moved their vote off of him is really not a great reason for voting Chief. I'm honestly surprised that you can't find a better candidate/better reason for voting Chief. Ntn is also looking for reasons to see wolfy connections with Chief because wolves like to vote wolf on day one. It's like it's becoming the new cliché.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Lathum

vote count?

Looks to be all over the place at the moment.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by JAG

Why do you assume there had to be wolf-on-wolf voting D1? I think every player ended up on bhlloy or DV, both villagers, and Narcizo is another known villager that received votes. Going from memory, that's three of the four people who got 3+ votes who are confirmed villagers.

I don't think there has to be. I just know it is a trick used by wolves a good bit.

[Narcizo]

ntndeacon 2 - The Jackal (464), Autumn (529)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (486), Telle (556)
Danny 1 - mauboy (548)
Lathum 1 - Crimson (560)

[Narcizo]

Kind of rushed. Better be checked by someone.

I think ntn is the favourite for my vote among the group but he's been pretty active and I don't really want to punish that. Admittedly that could also mean that he's making the effort to be active because he's a wolf but I'm not sure that fits his MO. I think I'd rather;

Vote MrBug

Really, don't follow onto me just because I'm cleared or the seer.

[Lathum]

NArc- did you say anywhere who you scanned last night?

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Telle, I really don't think that the fact that three people moved their vote off of him is really not a great reason for voting Chief. I'm honestly surprised that you can't find a better candidate/better reason for voting Chief. Ntn is also looking for reasons to see wolfy connections with Chief because wolves like to vote wolf on day one. It's like it's becoming the new cliché.

There is a bit of cliche to it, however how much credibility does it give someone to be able to say.. "hey at least I was on a wolf."

[Narcizo]

About last night you're all going to have to trust me when I say that I've got no scan result to reveal for you. Sorry guys. I asked everyone to vote before now just because I was interested in seeing how people reacted to the implied threat that I had found another wolf. Oh and because I like the idea of people voting while I'm still around and I wanted to get you all to dance like puppets on my strings. And you didn't even give me that pleasure.

Sorry but I'm not going to say any more about this today.

[Narcizo]

Except I don't think it will benefit the village to speculate about this so keep an open mind about things but keep it to yourself.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Telle, I really don't think that the fact that three people moved their vote off of him is really not a great reason for voting Chief. I'm honestly surprised that you can't find a better candidate/better reason for voting Chief. Ntn is also looking for reasons to see wolfy connections with Chief because wolves like to vote wolf on day one. It's like it's becoming the new cliché.

Hey, I never claimed to be a very good werewolf player. I'm not good at coming up with all these lovely theories that people banter about (not that most of those ever come out to be true anyways). I found something that looks mildly suspicious and I'm going with it. Don't like it, don't follow me.. simple as that.

[EagleFan]

As of post 572:

ntndeacon 2 - The Jackal (464), Autumn (529)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (486), Telle (556)
Danny 1 - mauboy1 (548)
Lathum 1 - CrimsonFox (560)
Mrbug708 1 - Narcizo (567)

[Lathum]

Want to get a vote in. It seems NTN has gotten pretty chatty once his name started coming up.

Vote NTNDeacon

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Want to get a vote in. It seems NTN has gotten pretty chatty once his name started coming up.

Vote NTNDeacon

I usually get chatty ocer my name comes up

[CrimsonFox]

unvote lathum
vote mrbug

[CrimsonFox]

As of post 572:

ntndeacon 3 - The Jackal (464), Autumn (529) lathum (574)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (486), Telle (556)
Mrbug708 2 - Narcizo (567) crimsonfox (576)
Danny 1 - mauboy1 (548)

[CrimsonFox]

oops sorry about the red, was copying ef's post and forgot to change the color back.

[CrimsonFox]

got the number wrong too. should be 576

[The Jackal]

Danny, Bug, Chief, and JAG yet to vote

[Chief Rum]

I don't have anything specifically against hin, but I think I need to vote ntn out of self-preservation.

VOTE NTNDEACON

[Danny]

Chief why ntn and not bug to put yourself in third?

[Autumn]

What's the chance that the wolves found out there isn't a seer in the game,and narc fake scanned a wolf to give himself super credibility?

Just sayin'.

[Danny]

And why wouldn't narc just continue fake scanning people? I find it hard to believe there is no seer. That's never the role that gets cut

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Autumn

What's the chance that the wolves found out there isn't a seer in the game,and narc fake scanned a wolf to give himself super credibility?

Just sayin'.

I doubt that, not having a seer and letting the wolves know that would give them an insane advantage.

[Danny]

It's too late today and I am not against our candidates, but I would definitely like to see Jag as a man of interest in the near future.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Telle

Well having not seen anything too horribly suspicious in the past couple of days, I think I'm going to continue with my earlier thoughts of not liking the disappearing run on Chief on Day 1.

Btw, I'm here and not today. I'm home getting some stuff done around the house, so I'm logged in but afk for the most part. And I'll be leaving at about 5:30pm Eastern for knitting group and won't be back until after deadline.

vote Chief Rum

Knitting? As with deadly needles? That is pretty suspicious

[ntndeacon]

well I will certainly change my vote if I need to to Bug. right now it wont help though

[Danny]

Still a lot of time, I want to see what happens.

Vote Jag

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

Chief why ntn and not bug to put yourself in third?

I can keep that move in reserve if need be. I am going on the logic that only one player needs to be lynched today. By voting ntndeacon, I move myself two votes away from tying, three from the lead. If I vote Bug, I am still one vote away from a tie, two from the lead.

Plus, ntn's vote is on me. He can't do anything to improve the situation or lynch me further.

[Danny]

Ok, that makes sense. FWIW, there is 0 chance I am voting Chief today with the other candidates out there.

[EagleFan]

As of post 591:

ntndeacon 4 - The Jackal (464), Autumn (529), Lathum (574), Chief Rum (581)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (486), Telle (556)
Mrbug708 2 - Narcizo (567), CrimsonFox (576)
Danny 1 - mauboy1 (548)
JAG 1 - Danny (589)

[mauchow]

Back from work and finished eating. Have a moment before I soak myself into the world of gaming for the rest of the night.

unvote danny

[mauchow]

vote mr bug

[JAG]

Alrighty, I'm semi-here. Gonna try to sort out a vote.

[CrimsonFox]

deal me in I want to hear some trademark jag awesomeness (TM)

[EagleFan]

As of post 596:

ntndeacon 4 - The Jackal (464), Autumn (529), Lathum (574), Chief Rum (581)
Mrbug708 3 - Narcizo (567), CrimsonFox (576), mauboy1 (594)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (486), Telle (556)
JAG 1 - Danny (589)

[JAG]

So D1 it was 2-2-2-1-1 DV-Narcizo-bhlloy-ntn-Autumn when ntn voted bhlloy to 3. I'm kind of neutral on that, could see it being a wolf move to set a villager as a candidate, but then everyone with two votes there was a villager so either this was a dandy place to slip in a vote or he didn't have much choice. D2 it's tied with three people and ntn at 1 each and ntn votes a fifth person to one vote. That seems a bit more positive to me.

[JAG]

I don't recommend doing analysis to Wheels on the Bus btw.

[CrimsonFox]

LOL. The wolves on the bus go GRRR-GRR-GRRRR GRR-GRR-GRR.... that's the sound of the wolves...