2013 Video Games Thread

[INDalltheway]

I think there are a couple Sony PR employees ITT.

[SirFozzie]

There are people with pro-Sony viewpoints, sure.

Up till today, I definitely wasn't one of them. Neither were most of the others disgusted by Microsoft's decisions

[JonInMiddleGA]

FTR, I've never owned a Sony console, and don't have any interest in one for my personal use today either. The most likely outcome I see is the end to my second era of console gaming (and likely most gaming in general, I have very little interest in going back to the p.c. route, as I've noted previously).

[cartman]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

There are people with pro-Sony viewpoints, sure.

Up till today, I definitely wasn't one of them. Neither were most of the others disgusted by Microsoft's decisions

Disgusted? Really?

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by cartman

Disgusted? Really?

Yup.

Spits in the face of gamers, and locks down the system under pressure from publishers.

[cartman]

How is this that much worse than Steam? From everything I've seen, it looks to work the same way.

[SirFozzie]

Because steam is about nothing BUT the software (games/programs), and holds sales to ridiculous amounts. Xbox One is about everything but the software and doesn't know a sale if it bit them on their ass.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Because steam is about nothing BUT the software (games/programs), and holds sales to ridiculous amounts. Xbox One is about everything but the software and doesn't know a sale if it bit them on their ass.

Jumping the gun a bit? Under Xbox Live on the 360 they have done sales on downloadable games, that were cheaper than the disc versions.

[SirFozzie]

Steam's also a hell of a lot lighter in DRM than what came before it.. unlike Microsoft which is going 210 MPH in the other direction.

[mckerney]

For me the used game thing really doesn't bother me. How one console handles used games versus the other really won't have any impact on what I buy for the next generation.

I've owned both Sony and Microsoft consoles in the past, but being I play primarily on PC and it's incredibly unlikely I'll play something on console if it's available on PC. I also don't watch much live TV and what I do watch I do on my computer also (my PS3 is hooked up to my computer monitor anyway).

So pretty much the only deciding factor is games for me, specifically the system exclusives. So while I can easily see the TV stuff leading to the XBox One being the top selling system this generation, when almost all the game stuff is EA Sports and Call of Duty and the PS4 reveal was nearly all about games then yeah, I'm more excited about the prospect of getting a PS4 at this point.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Steam's also a hell of a lot lighter in DRM than what came before it.. unlike Microsoft which is going 210 MPH in the other direction.

How so? We really haven't seen any details yet. I don't hear about people complaining about not being able to resale games they've bought on Steam, or not being able to lend one of the games to a friend.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

What a mess. When Microsoft can't even give you a straight answer, you know there's some things they're trying not to tell you. Totally baffling.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cartman

I don't hear about people complaining about not being able to resale games they've bought on Steam, or not being able to lend one of the games to a friend.

That's not really a part of the p.c. gaming culture historically though, is it?

[bhlloy]

Right. Comparing PC gaming and Steam where maybe the top 5% of games are 60 bucks when they come out to a system where 95% of the games come out at 60 bucks and stay that way for at least a couple years new is stupid.

I probably average one full price console game a year. But Gamefly + used makes it worth me owning the console anyway, with this new business model I just won't bother.

Speaking of Gamefly, their business model is completely shot. Might as well prepare to start closing the doors now.

[mckerney]

This is incredibly disappointing news if true.

Xbox One won't allow indies to self-publish g - Video Game News, Videos and File Downloads for PC and Console Games at Shacknews.com

[Matthean]

Just means more business for the one console that was Kickstarted.

[Abe Sargent]

I wont buy this XBox for a variety of reasons. One, I tend to buy a different console each generation, and then pick up games from the previous generation wanted but could;t play. So I picked up fun PS games on m PStwo, fun XBox games for my 360, etc.

Assuming its backward compatible, I suspect PS4 is my choice. But the lack of backwards compatibility on the XB1 for me is a huge non-selling feature. I loved the backwards compatibility of Nintendo's handhelds, and I buy a lot of games there because with one handheld i can access more than 10 years of great games. I want that with any system I buy. If I were to purchase the XB1 I don;t want to have to keep my other system still out that's silly.

I have purchased a lot of used games through the years too, and that's a major turn off.


So, as of right now, PS4 is in the run for my next gen console. Now, they could screw it up, and then I might pass on both. But right now, they are looking better and better.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Assuming its backward compatible, I suspect PS4 is my choice.

The PS4 won't be backwards compatible either.

Sony Thought 'Long and Hard' Over PS4's Lack of Backward Compatibility - Push Square

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Just means more business for the one console that was Kickstarted.

We'll see, its likely the games that indie devs would want to put out on the XBox wouldn't run on the Ouya though.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by cartman

The PS4 won't be backwards compatible either.

Sony Thought 'Long and Hard' Over PS4's Lack of Backward Compatibility - Push Square

No chance it's backwards compatible when they are going from the cell processor to x86.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by cartman

The PS4 won't be backwards compatible either.

Sony Thought 'Long and Hard' Over PS4's Lack of Backward Compatibility - Push Square

Well that sucks

[Easy Mac]

I guess google completely missed the boat with the Google TV.

The xbox one just seems like a Google TV that can play games.

The ouya just seems like a Google TV that lacks the TV part.

If they tried earlier, Google could have dominated the mid-range game market and set top box market.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by mckerney

This is incredibly disappointing news if true.

Xbox One won't allow indies to self-publish g - Video Game News, Videos and File Downloads for PC and Console Games at Shacknews.com

That's a big surprising given how wide the barn door has been left open on the PS4 as far as indie developers go. Sony is bending over backward to get indie developers on their store this generation.

[AENeuman]

when xbox changed their home screen to mostly ads and made looking for new games and demos many clicks away they lost me.

With the popularity of tablets it seems that android and particularly apple will soon get the TV-game-internet thing down. lots of weak tries so far, but having an ipad meld with the tv seems a lot more fluid than what xbox is tiring to do.also, imo, there is no way people are going to embrace a machine that requires a separate keyboard, that is old Microsoft thinking

apple used a decade of failed tablets to create the first great (accepted) one. i could see them doing the same thing with this holy grail goal of merging all media devices

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

This article talks about the specs on each console as far as raw horsepower......

Xbox One Vs PlayStation 4: Spec Battle Won by Sony | BGR

While it's pretty clear that the PS4 has more behind it, I think the key question is going to be price point. Will MS be able to make the X1 cheaper based on the lower horsepower? Will it matter that the horsepower is lower if the developers develop for the lowest common denominator or will they develop to the highest level possible on each console?

[terpkristin]

The back compat stuff doesn't really surprise me. I'm not interested in all the entertainment stuff and really hate Kinect and motion control stuff...right now, the PS4 has the edge for me so far, but I don't think I'm buying either console at launch. I'm quite happy with my 3DS and iPhone and Vita.

/tk

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

This article talks about the specs on each console as far as raw horsepower......

Xbox One Vs PlayStation 4: Spec Battle Won by Sony | BGR

While it's pretty clear that the PS4 has more behind it, I think the key question is going to be price point. Will MS be able to make the X1 cheaper based on the lower horsepower? Will it matter that the horsepower is lower if the developers develop for the lowest common denominator or will they develop to the highest level possible on each console?

I'll be surprised if there's really any difference in the look of the games on the two systems. When you include the PC, this generation has been a shining example of developers choosing to develop for the lowest common denominator.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Atocep

I'll be surprised if there's really any difference in the look of the games on the two systems. When you include the PC, this generation has been a shining example of developers choosing to develop for the lowest common denominator.

Yeah, I don't see specs determining which is the most popular this generation when they are fairly similar.

[Matthean]

This play from NCAA Football 10 is definitely not named after Tim Tebow | For The Win

[Kodos]

Right now I'm a strong PS4 lean, but see no need to buy it until a couple years from now. Content with my 360 and PS3.

[mckerney]

Started to get into the Metal Gear series so I know something about the game world when I play Revengeance and I started with Metal Gear Solid at the suggestion of a friend. So far it has mostly reinforced the thought that 3D games on PS1 have aged worse than any other era of games. The controls are just awful without analog sticks when compared to any game from the last decade and it makes the gameplay awful. The low poly 3D graphics may have aged even worse.

[SirFozzie]

Are we 100% sure that Microsoft didn't partner with the FBI for this game?

The Xbox One can talk to you, will feature remote play | Polygon


In one scenario, Kinect used its facial recognition to scan a room full of people and note if there was someone in the room it didn't recognize. It then told the console owner that there is someone in the room it didn't recognize and asked the new person to identify themselves. Once the person said their name, Kinect welcomed them and saved their information to the console.

[Dutch]

Command And Conquer - Tiberian Dawn - HTML5

The original C&C recreated using HTML5.

[chinaski]

Originally Posted by Mike D

Command And Conquer - Tiberian Dawn - HTML5

The original C&C recreated using HTML5.

Awesome! Spent thousands of hours with this back in the day. Was even in the top 20 on Case's Ladder.

[WVUFAN]

If the concept mentioned earlier (Gamer A sells game to Gamestop, Gamer B buys used game, installs it on X1, Gamer A's version deactivates), then it's ok. This means Gamestop and the used game market can (mostly) continue to work as normal.

If you buy the used game, then have to pay MS MORE money to activate it, Microsoft will never get another penny from me. The great majority of games I purchase are used from Best Buy and Gamestop, and this will effectively kill that.

[Fidatelo]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

If you buy the used game, then have to pay MS MORE money to activate it, Microsoft will never get another penny from me. The great majority of games I purchase are used from Best Buy and Gamestop, and this will effectively kill that.

I think it depends on what the addition MS charge is. If MS charges $10 to activate a used game, then GameStop just has to charge $10 less for the physical copy, which means they pay the end-user $10 less for the disc. So ultimately it doesn't hurt the guy who buys used games as much as it hurts the guy who sells new ones to GameStop, right?

[Mota]

If Gamestop is charging $10 less for the physical copy, then that pretty much means you'll get about $0.03 on your trade-ins since they are already ripping people off. Right now they're getting away with charging $5 less than retail on most new product which I think is insane. I don't see the model working, but of course we'll have to wait until we get exact info before that's definite.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I think it depends on what the addition MS charge is. If MS charges $10 to activate a used game, then GameStop just has to charge $10 less for the physical copy, which means they pay the end-user $10 less for the disc. So ultimately it doesn't hurt the guy who buys used games as much as it hurts the guy who sells new ones to GameStop, right?

While I don't believe there's a chance in hell the surcharge will be as low as $10, even at that amount, how many games actually have a trade-in value above that amount now? It's a pretty short list.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Been playing Sleeping Dogs on the PS3 since it's free on PS+. Fantastic game, especially at that price.

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I think it depends on what the addition MS charge is. If MS charges $10 to activate a used game, then GameStop just has to charge $10 less for the physical copy, which means they pay the end-user $10 less for the disc. So ultimately it doesn't hurt the guy who buys used games as much as it hurts the guy who sells new ones to GameStop, right?

Sorry, but according to the stuff out to retailers (or at least the stuff that retailers are apparently leaking), Microsoft will demand that used games, AT MOST, be 10% off new cost.

And that there's an activation cost to buy a used game,but they're currently requiring the retailer to play it.

[Jughead Spock]

I'm pretty sure my life as I know it ends on Friday when I get early access to Marvel Heroes. Played the beta, which was my first mistake. It's been nice knowing you all.

[Matthean]

I'm still hearing lukewarm things about it and videos are backing that up. The only character that seems actually fun is Hulk.

[Neon_Chaos]

Played the Beta for it, wasn't impressed really. The gameplay is kinda bland and the graphics are unimpressive.

[Thomkal]

Yeah not impressed either with graphics and gameplay. And I really didn't like playing as one of an infinite Spiderman for instance instead of your own unique hero.

[sachmo71]

Got Injustice: Gods Among Us today for $35 at Amazon today. I forsee some serious Father-Son hero fights coming down soon!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Online pressure ramping up hoping to get limited or no DRM on PS4.

http://kotaku.com/ps4nodrm-the-next-...-son-510143287

PlayStation fans flock to Twitter to protest DRM - NBC News.com

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Fantastic news here. Love that you can play any PS4 game you purchase on your Vita as well. Really shouldn't be that tough for developers and it should help the Vita quite a bit, especially if games remain at the $60 retail price point.

Rumor: Sony making Remote Play mandatory with PS4 [update: Sony confirms] | Joystiq

[cartman]

If you order the Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition from Amazon, you get a code giving you PC/Tablet/Mobile device access to NFL Sunday Ticket for the 2013 season, and you don't have to sign-up for DirecTV to use it. For a $40 premium over the normal game price, that is a pretty good deal.

Amazon.com: Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition: Xbox 360: Video Games

[Groundhog]

I don't see myself buying an Xbox because, a) I had 3 bricked 360s, and b) it's region locked. The PS4 may well be region locked as well, but so far it hasn't been confirmed or denied.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by cartman

If you order the Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition from Amazon, you get a code giving you PC/Tablet/Mobile device access to NFL Sunday Ticket for the 2013 season, and you don't have to sign-up for DirecTV to use it. For a $40 premium over the normal game price, that is a pretty good deal.

Amazon.com: Madden NFL 25 Anniversary Edition: Xbox 360: Video Games

Wait.. what?

If I buy this game, I can get the sunday ticket package for next season for free? That is the package where you can watch the games live right? not just the next day recaps and such? I've been wanting a way to do this without direct tv for years... For this deal, I likely would buy this game even if I wasn't going to play it once.