2020 Democratic Primaries/General Election Thread

[lungs]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Do you know how they are counting the vote? Like in person vs absentee?

SI

Not sure the exact order they count.

Biden did stretch Hillary’s margin of victory in Dane County (Madison).

It’s going to be close. Milwaukee turnout wasn’t as high as they hoped.

[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by molson

Now that I believe. It's not about the country to you, it's about yelling at people and being badass on the internet.

You're wrong again and butthurt and your tail is tucked between your legs... Im the badass though.

How is this. Country over party: I came around and committed to your side for 8 years. It didn't work out. But you're welcome. Will you come around to my side in 2024? Commit right now. No Dem centrist. Get behind the Dem populist candidate.

[tarcone]

Man, I saw a Trump win coming. Same thing as 2016. No one thought the rural voters would come out and the suburbs would be slightly ahead for dems and the cities would be the difference.

But here comes the rural voters again.

Biden wins the majority. Trump wins the electoral Again, GOP wins the right places.

[PilotMan]

I am going to bed feeling better than 2016, but still amazed that there are this many people out there who really think he's worthy? It is feeling a lot like 30s Germany in here before the election. If trump wins again it might inch further down that path.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by tarcone

Man, I saw a Trump win coming. Same thing as 2016. No one thought the rural voters would come out and the suburbs would be slightly ahead for dems and the cities would be the difference.

But here comes the rural voters again.

Biden wins the majority. Trump wins the electoral Again, GOP wins the right places.

The electoral advantage inherent for Republicans is staggering when all votes are equal. Theoretically.

[molson]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

You're wrong again and butthurt and your tail is tucked between your legs... Im the badass though.

How is this. Country over party: I came around and committed to your side for 8 years. It didn't work out. But you're welcome. Will you come around to my side in 2024? Commit right now. No Dem centrist. Get behind the Dem populist candidate.

I'd vote for any Dem candidate against Trump. You said you'd vote for Trump if you don't get your way. That's all you need to know to know the difference between us. You'd vote Trump, I wouldn't.

(I'd actually bet money you tantrum voted for Trump last time and maybe this time. Or that you didn't bother to vote at all.)

[tarcone]

I would go with a populist Dem. Damn, I gave money to Yang this year. Guy has some good ideas.

Too bad we live in a country with 2 parties that neuters any populist candidate that would win.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

You're wrong again and butthurt and your tail is tucked between your legs... Im the badass though.

How is this. Country over party: I came around and committed to your side for 8 years. It didn't work out. But you're welcome. Will you come around to my side in 2024? Commit right now. No Dem centrist. Get behind the Dem populist candidate.

I mean, as someone who doesn't care for Bernie, I would absolutely get behind him and/or any other progressive. Hell, I look forward to voting for AOC at some point, because her brand of progressivism doesn't completely discount pragmatism, which is a big issue for me in a Presidential candidate (also why I supported Warren).

[Butter]

So like Gayle King is pretty useless on CBS.

Van Jones started talking and I couldn't wait to turn the channel from CNN, and I'm a lib.

Is that racist?

[tarcone]

When will Michigan some in?

[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

I am going to bed feeling better than 2016, but still amazed that there are this many people out there who really think he's worthy? It is feeling a lot like 30s Germany in here before the election. If trump wins again it might inch further down that path.

Go to bed loser. See you in 4 years. Tell me if you're still flying planes for a commercial airlines or if you're lucky to get a job for Koryo Airlines... oops American Airlines in 2023.

Sleep sweet.

[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by molson

I'd vote for any Dem candidate against Trump. You said you'd vote for Trump if you don't get your way. That's all you need to know to know the difference between us. You'd vote Trump, I wouldn't.

(I'd actually bet money you tantrum voted for Trump last time and maybe this time. Or that you didn't bother to vote at all.)

You'd be wrong. Dem down ticket the last 8 years.

Cant wait for you Boomers—the worst, most selfish generation in American history—to die off.

But yea, lets just keep counting on "tHoSe InDePENdeNrt VOteRs are WheERE ITs At" and "socialism" and "healthcare for all" cant win. Funny how we were worried that Amy Comey Barrett would decide this election and now we are wishing she would. Y'all idiots are like hanging onto FOX NEWS polls hoping they are correct at this moment... lol.

And maybe you're right. But tell me a platform that doesn't have a last name of Clinton/Obama/Biden/Gore and LMK who not to vote for and lets get behind the same candidate in 2024.

[tarcone]

Trump only down 22 in the biggest Dem county in Wiscy compared to losing it by 37 in 2016

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

Go to bed loser. See you in 4 years. Tell me if you're still flying planes for a commercial airlines or if you're lucky to get a job for Koryo Airlines... oops American Airlines in 2023.

Sleep sweet.

Get bent and sober up. Tell us again how crying about your loser candidate was the solution. I'm guessing you were part of the problem 4 years ago that got us in this. Great strategy there. You keep running with that.

[tarcone]

Jeez, in this world of technology, it really takes this long to count votes.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

You'd be wrong. Dem down ticket the last 8 years.

Cant wait for you Boomers—the worst, most selfish generation in American history—to die off.

Jfc dude. You don't know fuckall about anything.

[tarcone]

6 states are holding this up. Get over yourselves and get shit done.

[tarcone]

Look at us, we are more important than you. We are going to hold off until it is determined or our state matters the most.

Stupid.

[PilotMan]

It's almost the exact states that were predicted to be the difference makers. Almost like it was anticipated. Look, there are some worse numbers than anticipated, but by and large, there haven't been any shocking results.

[Ksyrup]

Seems fishy to me that CNN waited until well after midnight to call FL and TX for Trump. Those were gone a couple hours before midnight.

[tarcone]

100 million dollars spent on a senate race. Yeah, our political system rocks.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Seems fishy to me that CNN waited until well after midnight to call FL and TX for Trump. Those were gone a couple hours before midnight.

CNN has been conservative on all of their calls, even ones that look like they'll go to Biden (AZ, VA).

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by tarcone

100 million dollars spent on a senate race. Yeah, our political system rocks.

It's a travesty that that kind of money was spent all over the races.

[Glengoyne]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

Go to bed loser. See you in 4 years. Tell me if you're still flying planes for a commercial airlines or if you're lucky to get a job for Koryo Airlines... oops American Airlines in 2023.

Sleep sweet.

..' the fuck is wrong with you?

[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Get bent and sober up. Tell us again how crying about your loser candidate was the solution. I'm guessing you were part of the problem 4 years ago that got us in this. Great strategy there. You keep running with that.

Get bent and get drunk. I would if I was you. Because your next job is probably coming in 2-4 years Pilot Boy. Literally if it wasn't for a bailout and a stimulus bill that ran out you probably wouldn't even be weighing in on today if we'd done this correctly.

Cant wait to see you whining here like you usually do about your job and how hard the airline industry is for pilots and begging for federal money to bail your ass out for the 3rd time in 10 years so you have a job.

But socialism bad. Unless it helps you out. Fuck off.

[molson]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

You'd be wrong. Dem down ticket the last 8 years.

Cant wait for you Boomers—the worst, most selfish generation in American history—to die off.

But yea, lets just keep counting on "tHoSe InDePENdeNrt VOteRs are WheERE ITs At" and "socialism" and "healthcare for all" cant win. Funny how we were worried that Amy Comey Barrett would decide this election and now we are wishing she would. Y'all idiots are like hanging onto FOX NEWS polls hoping they are correct at this moment... lol.

And maybe you're right. But tell me a platform that doesn't have a last name of Clinton/Obama/Biden/Gore and LMK who not to vote for and lets get behind the same candidate in 2024.

You'd vote for Trump. You have no say. Despite your irregular capitalization. Which is super edgy.

I guarantee neither AOC or Bernie would vote for Trump or insult other allies about their lives and jobs and views. They were, and are, trying to build something bigger. People like you hold them back.

[Butter]

I've watched John King on CNN say literally the same thing about Pennsylvania about 15 times. Must be time for bed

[tarcone]

Yeah. Im out. This is ridiculous that 6 states are holding up the process. Get your shot together.

[ISiddiqui]

Nebraska District 2 projected for Biden. Biden just needs Wisconsin and Michigan to get to 270.

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[Swaggs]

I didn’t appreciate Steve Kornacki on the board until I saw John King and the guy from Fox.

[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by molson

You'd vote for Trump. You have no say. Despite your irregular capitalization. Which is super edgy.

Hyberbole statement. Would obviously never vote for Trump. The point being made is that the current DNC candidate selection process is clearly not working/flawed/not jiving with voters who MATTER (aka YOUNG minority voters). So maybe, just maybe, it is high time y'all coalesce behind the the "left" candidate. Let's try it. Maybe you'll like it.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

Go to bed loser. See you in 4 years. Tell me if you're still flying planes for a commercial airlines or if you're lucky to get a job for Koryo Airlines... oops American Airlines in 2023.

Sleep sweet.

You should seriously log off and calm down man.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

Get bent and get drunk. I would if I was you. Because your next job is probably coming in 2-4 years Pilot Boy. Literally if it wasn't for a bailout and a stimulus bill that ran out you probably wouldn't even be weighing in on today if we'd done this correctly.

Cant wait to see you whining here like you usually do about your job and how hard the airline industry is for pilots and begging for federal money to bail your ass out for the 3rd time in 10 years so you have a job.

But socialism bad. Unless it helps you out. Fuck off.

And you want to be the spokesman for the party? No wonder you can't beat anyone. You couldn't think your way out of a paper bag. I love how you're cherry picking here. It's almost like.. wait no, sorry, you're completely fucking clueless. Make up whatever shit fits your narrative. Go back to the armchair and keep screaming about how much you fucking care. You ain't done shit. Walk on man. You're fucking pathetic.

[molson]

There's a portion of Sanders' base that hate other Dems more than Trump. That's who gets the backlash. It's very telling. They cost people elections

When pilotman is the target of your edgy liberal rage than you're just confused. Look back at the shit you're saying to people when you sober up.

[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

And you want to be the spokesman for the party? No wonder you can't beat anyone. You couldn't think your way out of a paper bag. I love how you're cherry picking here. It's almost like.. wait no, sorry, you're completely fucking clueless. Make up whatever shit fits your narrative. Go back to the armchair and keep screaming about how much you fucking care. You ain't done shit. Walk on man. You're fucking pathetic.

Mate, that is literally the most pathetic, non-substanstive response possible. Lot of words and bluster but nothing substantial. Are you sober? Who is the drunk one here?

Unfortunately tomorrow you'll still be unemployed because the candidate you supported couldn't beat the worst candidate in American history who gives no fucks about you and is destroying your industry and refusing to help you out. For the record I am on your side. I think you deserve help. That is the point here. But y'all keep voting against your own self interest. You'll get it eventually. Or you won't. We can only do so much, us socialist.

[ISiddiqui]

On the NYT board, 91% of Georgia now counted. It's gone down to Trump +3 and the Needle has gone up to 64% Biden. Fulton County is going to count mail ballots in the morning (they've gone home for the night).

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[ISiddiqui]

https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/stat...519565825?s=19

And Lucy McBath (D) in the 6th District holds her seat she won in an upset in 2018.

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[Radii]

Originally Posted by molson

There's a portion of Sanders' base that hate other Dems more than Trump. That's who gets the backlash. It's very telling. They cost people elections

Absolutely this. Living in a progressive bubble with no understanding that they aren't getting cheated at every turn, but that not even even most registered democrats have moved far enough left yet. I think Biden is a shit candidate and if it wasn't for Trump I'm not sure I'd vote for him, but trump exists, so that's the very easy and obvious reality to get behind Biden and be happy for the possibility of some sort of return to normalcy, even though normalcy is still terrible for millions of Americans who would benefit from Social Democracy. But we are here now, and we have to work with what we can to advocate. People like BillyMadison really hurt that in an active way. It's too bad.

[sovereignstar v2]

Nice gem I found from the 2008 election night:

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

At least disgruntled african-americans who'd rather bitch than stand up and do something won't be able to play the race card as considerably anymore.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by BillyMadison

Mate, that is literally the most pathetic, non-substanstive response possible. Lot of words and bluster but nothing substantial. Are you sober? Who is the drunk one here?

Unfortunately tomorrow you'll still be unemployed because the candidate you supported couldn't beat the worst candidate in American history who gives no fucks about you and is destroying your industry and refusing to help you out. For the record I am on your side. I think you deserve help. That is the point here. But y'all keep voting against your own self interest. You'll get it eventually. Or you won't. We can only do so much, us socialist.

That's just it. You think you have the answers, but you don't know Jack fucking shit. Which is, I guess, where you fall. I can't fault you that badly. I guess you really are your namesake after all. Take another shot. That brain cell will die eventually.

[Swaggs]

It seems like Georgia may be more promising than Wisconsin.

[BillyMadison]

Originally Posted by Radii

Absolutely this. Living in a progressive bubble with no understanding that they aren't getting cheated at every turn, but that not even even most registered democrats have moved far enough left yet. I think Biden is a shit candidate and if it wasn't for Trump I'm not sure I'd vote for him, but trump exists, so that's the very easy and obvious reality to get behind Biden and be happy for the possibility of some sort of return to normalcy, even though normalcy is still terrible for millions of Americans who would benefit from Social Democracy. But we are here now, and we have to work with what we can to advocate. People like BillyMadison really hurt that in an active way. It's too bad.

I actually love Joe Biden. Like, I love the guy. Empathetic, true, honest. A good person. So in my mind, a good candidate. And maybe you're right! Maybe no Dem candidate could compete with the worst incumbent Presidential candidate in American history alongside a pandemic and a sinking economy and rampant racism and an FBI blowing warning signals that white supremacy (which said candidate endorses) is the biggest national security threat.

But it's the activist Dems that are trouble and are sinking things.

Here's a question: will you get behind new DNC leadership going forward? What does that look like for you? What are your limits? What do you think wins in 2024—if, and even IF we have the opportunity to vote again—and please don't say a moderate that can win republican voters...? Is that too much to ask?

[stevew]

well the senate looks to be a big fucking loss.

[bhlloy]

Senate is gone (MT just about a formality to be called in the next 30 mins)... but feels like maybe if all votes are counted then Biden is still just about the favorite for president? Definitely a weird night, and can't wait for the lawsuits to start tomorrow.

[Izulde]

WTF is that clown anyway?

[Izulde]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

It seems like Georgia may be more promising than Wisconsin.

Which is such a 2020 statement, it's unreal.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Which is such a 2020 statement, it's unreal.

Truth.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

It seems like Georgia may be more promising than Wisconsin.

Cautiously optimistic on WI. 169,000 Milwaukee mail in votes not yet counted.

[bhlloy]

Always fun to add another to the ol' ignore list. So much anger and so little vocabulary.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Nice gem I found from the 2008 election night:

Not surprising. There is a racist element in the far left, only furthered by minority rejection of Sanders in 16 and 20.