Maximum Football??? - Page 125

Apathetic Lurker · 09-30-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Crim

But he wasn't born anywhere, now was he, GMO? Hmm? Was he?

I sweartoGod, if it weren't for Rush, Rik Emmett, Sean Cullen, and possibly Alan Thicke, I'd be hard pressed to justify Canada's existence at all.

who cares about a bunch of has been's and never-were's.. The Canadian ballet is where it's at.....long live Canada and its wonderful blue laws !

johneh · 12-13-2008, 10:22 AM

A respected text sim developer offering his help on this......
An offer to David

DeToxRox · 12-13-2008, 10:25 AM

Uh oh. Shaun would actually give this game respectibility.

I am not sure I like this.

MJ4H · 12-13-2008, 10:27 AM

Heh. Has he seen the game? If so, could he make something useful of it? Is he just out to get the code for the lolz? Surprising development.

JPhillips · 12-13-2008, 10:41 AM

Don't do it Daivd. He's trying to steal the beer tent.

PilotMan · 12-13-2008, 10:43 AM

Hats off to Shaun for the effort. His presence would certainly lend some measure of credibility.

Toddzilla · 12-13-2008, 01:56 PM

Rod Blagojevich getting involved would give Maximum Football a measure of credibility.

EagleFan · 12-13-2008, 03:44 PM

Shaun was really just a fan of this thread and couldn't bear seeing it die.

Mustang · 12-13-2008, 06:04 PM

I noticed that the thread over at Matrix said that he doesn't post there anymore.. other than him being a general douche bag, was there something I missed?

Toddzilla · 12-13-2008, 10:03 PM

He probably knew what we all knew - that the M-F thread was destined to outlast even the game.

SteveMax58 · 12-14-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Rod Blagojevich getting involved would give Maximum Football a measure of credibility.

I believe the governor was wrongly bleeped as the unedited version of his taped calls showed he clearly stated,"You gotta pay to play MF. You think I'm going to just give that MF away?"

cartman · 01-05-2009, 10:26 AM

Oh baby, this thread ain't quite done yet!

Computer Football Game - Maximum-Football PC Program - Wintervalley Custom Software

Toddzilla · 01-05-2009, 10:29 AM

OH SHI...

Coffee Warlord · 01-05-2009, 10:46 AM

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Shootout overtime and mini-game. (mini game? wtf)

That alone should be enough for a few thousand more posts.

Pumpy Tudors · 01-05-2009, 11:16 AM

AWESOME! SHOOTOUT OVERTIME! I AM TOTALLY GOING TO DRAFT PATRICK KANE!

Mustang · 01-05-2009, 11:19 AM

Coffee Warlord · 01-05-2009, 11:19 AM

Quarterbacks hurl beer bottles (purchased from the BEER TENT) at the goal posts for shootouts.

Logan · 01-05-2009, 11:22 AM

It just always delivers.

Coffee Warlord · 01-05-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

AWESOME! SHOOTOUT OVERTIME! I AM TOTALLY GOING TO DRAFT PATRICK KANE!

MikeVic · 01-05-2009, 11:42 AM

Senator · 01-05-2009, 03:36 PM

Good, Ant - start working on the Broken Yards song Part II.

Coffee Warlord · 01-05-2009, 04:01 PM

wade moore · 01-05-2009, 04:04 PM

CW wins.

aran · 01-05-2009, 04:20 PM

Holy crap. Wintervalley CUSTOM software. So he's going to leave it up to the player to manage the company that develops the game, as well as the actual game itself? That really is MAXIMUM.

cartman · 01-05-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by aran

Holy crap. Wintervalley CUSTOM software. So he's going to leave it up to the player to manage the company that develops the game, as well as the actual game itself? That really is MAXIMUM.

I hear the roadmap for 4.0 is just a metric assload of ones and zeros. You can put them in any order you want. Top THAT for customization!

DaddyTorgo · 01-05-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I hear the roadmap for 4.0 is just a metric assload of ones and zeros. You can put them in any order you want. Top THAT for customization!

OMG...ROTFLMAO AT WORK!!!!

SunDevil · 01-05-2009, 04:32 PM

Maximum-Football
3.0

IN
DEVELOPMENT

Maximum-Football 3.0
is in development!

Features currently being developed
include (subject to change or exclusion without notice);

Integrated Playbook.

Improved graphics including
completely new player models and front end
artwork.

Improved environments.

Basic Player Trade AI for
leagues.

Shootout overtime and
mini-game.

Improved 3D game play
performance.

Improved Arcade play.

Improved presnap motion in
play design.

More...

Keep an eye on this section for further
updates, new message boards, screen shots, and development blogs.

SunDevil · 01-05-2009, 04:33 PM

Just had to post the actual annoncement, that way when/if the game comes out in 4 years we can have a timestamp to the original announcement and then ask how "basic player trades" are still not going to make the next version.

aran · 01-05-2009, 04:36 PM

What are "basic player trades"?

Where you trade players who have a low pH level? I have not seen a football game with that feature in it yet. Should be exciting.

I'm impressed that he's trying to include team chemistry, but I don't know if this is what people will expect...

Mustang · 01-05-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

cartman · 01-05-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aran

What are "basic player trades"?

10 if playera > playerb then trade = yes
20 if playera < playerb then trade = no
30 if playera = playerb then gosub 1000
40 end
1000 print "Beer Tent"
1010 return

Greyroofoo · 01-05-2009, 04:52 PM

When's the release date? And what's the over/under on how much it'll get delayed?

Antmeister · 01-05-2009, 05:13 PM

Wow....Coffee Warlord and cartman have me cracking up again. This thread will never die. I am anticipating the false release dates of 3.0. It appears that David is leaving Matrix to make this version.

Oilers9911 · 01-05-2009, 07:43 PM

You just know that someone checks Daivd's website daily just in the hope of making another post to the thread that would not die.

SteveMax58 · 01-05-2009, 07:46 PM

Umm...Coffee Warlord rules!!!

ShaneTheMaster · 01-05-2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman

10 if playera > playerb then trade = yes
20 if playera < playerb then trade = no
30 if playera = playerb then gosub 1000
40 end
1000 print "Beer Tent"
1010 return

This is the most I have laughed in quite a while.

CraigSca · 01-05-2009, 08:51 PM

In my surfing around the 'net looking at 3-D game engines, I happened to find one called Truevision 3-D. Imagine my surprise when, on their "About" page, one of the "featured products" created with the engine just happens to be our beloved Maximum Football. You may have to hit refresh a few times to see it featured, but it's in there.

Truevision3D - Portal Content - About Truevision3D

Mustang · 01-05-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

In my surfing around the 'net looking at 3-D game engines, I happened to find one called Truevision 3-D. Imagine my surprise when, on their "About" page, one of the "featured products" created with the engine just happens to be our beloved Maximum Football. You may have to hit refresh a few times to see it featured, but it's in there.

Truevision3D - Portal Content - About Truevision3D

"Maximum-Football is the ultimate football game for the PC. While the rest of the industry is abandoning the PC market for the console world of arcade football, Winter Valley is building a PC based game like no other."

Definitely a true statement.

SunDevil · 01-05-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Antmeister

It appears that Matrix has finally come to their senses and dropped this dead weight around their neck. The next version of the game will be released by Daivd himself who in his spare time will start up a fully customized software publishing company.

Fixed it for you.

Surtt · 01-06-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

When's the release date? And what's the over/under on how much it'll get delayed?

3.0 = 3000?

A thousand years sounds about right.....

EagleFan · 01-06-2009, 12:13 PM

Just when I thouht there was no more room on my wish list...

gstelmack · 01-06-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Surtt

3.0 = 3000?

Are we talking about Maximum Football or Battlecruiser 3000AD? I have a hard time distinguishing the two

cartman · 04-02-2009, 01:32 PM

An update, posted on, of all days, April 1st.

Computer Football Game - Maximum-Football PC Program - Wintervalley Custom Software

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Development Update - April 01, 2009

Greetings!
It's been a long time since the last update of Maximum-Football so I hope this finds everyone well. As many are aware, version 2.2 was the last version of the Maximum-Football 2.0 series. It provided a number of new features and improvements and people are still enjoying the game to this day. However all good things must come to and end and version 2 had run its course. It was time to take stock of where the game was and where I was personally with the project. Maximum-Football is simply a massive, massive project and it was time for me to take a step back for a while, recharge, and reevaluate.

Since the release of version 2.2, there have been many changes, both personally, and with the game. Even before version 2.0 was released it was known that a major overhaul of most aspects of the game was going to be needed sooner rather than later, and it was decided to make as many of those changes in one go, rather than a bunch of changes spread over various releases. To put into perspective some of the changes from version 2.2;

* The games full source code has been ported from a COM based system to a .Net based system. This involved porting the existing code into the .Net framework and rewriting many of the functions and processes to not only take advantage of improved systems, but sometimes they needed to be recoded to simply work again in the first place. Moving a project of this scope to the .Net framework is a considerable undertaking.
* New player models. The existing player models have been thrown away and new ones have been created. These models have a higher polygon count but they're also more efficient so not only do the look better, they provide for faster frame rates as well.
* New models required new textures. I decided to make those more efficient as well. Maximum-Football versions 1 and 2 used several textures to simply create the jersey. This was not very good use of memory and made custom uniform creation difficult. Version 3.0 uses one texture for the jersey. The new helmet texturing has also allowed for more effective helmet designs.
* New models also meant that existing animations couldn't be reused. Existing versions of the game had their models and animations done in a software package called TrueSpace by Caligari. TrueSpace 6.0 to be precise. TrueSpace 6 has been phased out and support dropped. The new version, TrueSpace 7 (now owned by Microsoft) breaks compatibility with older files. Continued use of TrueSpace for animation meant redoing all animations from scratch. All things considered, the decision was made to move away from TrueSpace for animation. The player and stadium meshes are still created in TrueSpace 6 (it's still a great tool for modeling), but the rigging and animation is being completely redone in 3DS MAX 2009. The tools found in 3DS MAX also allow for use of Motion Capture animations and those are being used where possible (and available).
* New Environments. Not only will the new version of the game be populated by new, better looking and better animated players, but the world they play in is also being rebuilt. Over the past months I've developed a specially built world system for creation environments (this tool works for non-sports titles as well). These newly built tools allow for improved graphical quality in the gaming world.
* New Front End. What good would new 3D be without new 2D screens? Wouldn't be good at all. A new visual style for the game's front end screens is also being developed.
* Beyond the graphical improvements several new features are being worked on. Not all of them may make the final cut based on scope and capacity, but some of these features include basic AI trading, built in Playbooks, improved Play Development System, and new Overtime Features. Online play is still something high on the list of wants but it's a massive task.

That's a short list of the major items to date. But as you can see, much has changed since the fall of 2008. At the moment there is no time table to release 3.0 but work continues...in fact, I should get back at it

Thank you
David Winter

QuikSand · 04-02-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Daivd

a major overhaul of most aspects of the game was going to be needed sooner rather than later

Candor. That must be the April Fool's joke portion.

QuikSand · 04-02-2009, 01:38 PM

By the way, if you're essentially a one-man show (well, other than your PR genius wife), speaking in the passive voice as if there's an "organization" who could be blamed for things just sounds silly.

gstelmack · 04-02-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSand

By the way, if you're essentially a one-man show (well, other than your PR genius wife), speaking in the passive voice as if there's an "organization" who could be blamed for things just sounds silly.

Well, he does work for EA Canada...

JPhillips · 04-02-2009, 02:01 PM

Motion Capture + Beer Tent = Maximum Awesome

sabotai · 04-02-2009, 02:11 PM

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Even before version 2.0 was released it was known that a major overhaul of most aspects of the game was going to be needed sooner rather than later

.....

larrymcg421 · 04-02-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba Wheels

Reading the current website over at Matrixgames, I'm still pretty pumped about this game. Release should be any day now, I think reconfiguring everything for career play caused an unavoidable delay, and looks like its going to hit the ground running with plenty of leagues/teams/uniforms/past and present already made and waiting for it.

Heh.

Apathetic Lurker · 04-02-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Heh.

to be fair, no one expected the train wreck that followed

12-13-2008, 10:41 AM	#6205
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Don't do it Daivd. He's trying to steal the beer tent. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

12-13-2008, 10:43 AM	#6206
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Hats off to Shaun for the effort. His presence would certainly lend some measure of credibility. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

12-13-2008, 06:04 PM	#6209
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	I noticed that the thread over at Matrix said that he doesn't post there anymore.. other than him being a general douche bag, was there something I missed? __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its... Last edited by Mustang : 12-14-2008 at 12:21 AM.

01-05-2009, 10:26 AM	#6212
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Oh baby, this thread ain't quite done yet! Computer Football Game - Maximum-Football PC Program - Wintervalley Custom Software __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-05-2009, 11:16 AM	#6215
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	AWESOME! SHOOTOUT OVERTIME! I AM TOTALLY GOING TO DRAFT PATRICK KANE! __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-13-2008, 10:22 AM	#6202
johneh Mascot Join Date: Jul 2004	A respected text sim developer offering his help on this...... An offer to David

12-13-2008, 10:25 AM	#6203
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Uh oh. Shaun would actually give this game respectibility. I am not sure I like this.

12-13-2008, 10:27 AM	#6204
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Heh. Has he seen the game? If so, could he make something useful of it? Is he just out to get the code for the lolz? Surprising development.

12-13-2008, 01:56 PM	#6207
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Rod Blagojevich getting involved would give Maximum Football a measure of credibility.

12-13-2008, 03:44 PM	#6208
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Shaun was really just a fan of this thread and couldn't bear seeing it die.

12-13-2008, 10:03 PM	#6210
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	He probably knew what we all knew - that the M-F thread was destined to outlast even the game.

01-05-2009, 10:29 AM	#6213
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	OH SHI...

01-05-2009, 11:19 AM	#6216
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	__________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

01-05-2009, 11:19 AM	#6217
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Quarterbacks hurl beer bottles (purchased from the BEER TENT) at the goal posts for shootouts.

01-05-2009, 11:22 AM	#6218
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	It just always delivers.

01-05-2009, 11:42 AM	#6220
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada

01-05-2009, 03:36 PM	#6221
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Good, Ant - start working on the Broken Yards song Part II. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-05-2009, 04:01 PM	#6222
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs

01-05-2009, 04:20 PM	#6224
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	Holy crap. Wintervalley CUSTOM software. So he's going to leave it up to the player to manage the company that develops the game, as well as the actual game itself? That really is MAXIMUM.

01-05-2009, 04:36 PM	#6229
aran High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA	What are "basic player trades"? Where you trade players who have a low pH level? I have not seen a football game with that feature in it yet. Should be exciting. I'm impressed that he's trying to include team chemistry, but I don't know if this is what people will expect...

01-05-2009, 04:52 PM	#6232
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	When's the release date? And what's the over/under on how much it'll get delayed?

01-05-2009, 05:13 PM	#6233
Antmeister Pro Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: At the corner of Beat Street and Electric Avenue	Wow....Coffee Warlord and cartman have me cracking up again. This thread will never die. I am anticipating the false release dates of 3.0. It appears that David is leaving Matrix to make this version. __________________ "I'm ready to bury the hatchet, but don't fuck with me" - Schmidty "Box me once, shame on Skydog. Box me twice. Shame on me. Box me 3 times, just fucking ban my ass...." - stevew

01-05-2009, 07:43 PM	#6234
Oilers9911 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2006	You just know that someone checks Daivd's website daily just in the hope of making another post to the thread that would not die.

01-05-2009, 07:46 PM	#6235
SteveMax58 College Starter Join Date: Dec 2006	Umm...Coffee Warlord rules!!!

01-05-2009, 08:51 PM	#6237
CraigSca Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Not Delaware - hurray!	In my surfing around the 'net looking at 3-D game engines, I happened to find one called Truevision 3-D. Imagine my surprise when, on their "About" page, one of the "featured products" created with the engine just happens to be our beloved Maximum Football. You may have to hit refresh a few times to see it featured, but it's in there. Truevision3D - Portal Content - About Truevision3D __________________ She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! She loves you, yeah! how do you know? how do you know? Last edited by CraigSca : 01-05-2009 at 08:51 PM.

01-06-2009, 12:13 PM	#6241
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Just when I thouht there was no more room on my wish list...

04-02-2009, 01:38 PM	#6245
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	By the way, if you're essentially a one-man show (well, other than your PR genius wife), speaking in the passive voice as if there's an "organization" who could be blamed for things just sounds silly.

04-02-2009, 02:01 PM	#6247
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Motion Capture + Beer Tent = Maximum Awesome __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

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