Maximum Football??? - Page 126

Antmeister · 04-02-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Heh.

And what's even funnier is that was posted on December 30, 2005.

JAG · 04-02-2009, 04:33 PM

So for those keeping track at home:

---1 of the 7 bullet points listed deals with updating the code type

---1 deals with incidentals like, "...several new features are being worked on. Not all of them may make the final cut based on scope and capacity, but some of these features include basic AI trading, built in Playbooks, improved Play Development System, and new Overtime Features. Online play is still something high on the list of wants but it's a massive task..." Hey, he's got a good track record with tacking on a bunch of stuff at the last minute and making them appear on the game feature list.

---And of course it wouldn't be Maximum Football without 5 of the 7 updates being updates to the eye candy so people can make pretty uniforms.

After some further research (a bit bored today), the Maximum Football 3 thread on Matrix has some rather annoyed customers as you might imagine..

RE: Maximum Football 3.0?

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I have to agree with both Mykal and Rhino on this one. Not sure why we need be so touchy about rolling eyes. Go search for posts from GreatWhite...my God, that was tolerated and eyerolls get a bad rap?

I think what we are all seeing is the death of a game we wanted to be something great. I know some of us will still play it for years to come, some may even go buy whatever David is making now. But the grand experiment that was Maximum football is being kept alive by a very small group of people. People like Mykal. People who dont talk about add-ons or charging for content.

It is NOT being kept alive by moderators, or the guy that developed it in the first place. I spend more time on these forums, reading and posting, than I do playing the game. I just started the WCFL, and we arent even in week 1 and the Remote In system is looking like its still hosed. Just a frustrating situation. Im not even sure why I come here anymore.
Really, the only reason I do come here is to chat with Mykal, look for Hacks playbooks, see what Dreamteams is up to, and commune with other forum members.

I purchased MaxFB on nearly Day 1, and have dedicated a lot of free time to making junk for the game, in hopes it would encourage people to buy it, and help increase their enjoyment. But at this point, im pretty much done.

David is back, sort of, getting everyone stirred up over some new football game. No way! Fix the freakin one we have all spent hard earned cash, and countless hours supporting. Why not secretly patch MaxFB 2.2.90? We all know it is a pain, it's a lot of work for little or no return....we understand. But we are left with a game that has sim league features, yet it doesnt really work. An AI that doesnt know when to call a timeout. And so on, and so on.

Word of mouth is important, I think, especially in a small niche community like ours.

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I completely agree. David abandoned this game, leaving it with a lot of problems that it seems will never be fixed. This is how he thanks his loyal customers?

Max-FB is a long running joke in some corners of the web. No matter how good this next game turns out to be, David will never win over the folks who have been mocking this game and David's actions over the past few years. Now David has ticked off a pretty good portion of his customer base too, so I'm wondering just who he thinks is going to buy his new game.

Based on the features he added that don't really work right, I'm wondering if he even has the ability to correct the problems in this game and make them right in the next one. You can't tell me anyone who bought Max-FB was able to set up a draft and make it work properly on the first try. That's bad programming on David's part.

In the next game is he going to be able to program good football sense into the AI? Will a team no longer punt the ball on 4th down when they're trailing late in the game? Will David be able to program the AI to go for the TD instead of kicking a FG late in the game when the team is down by more than 3 points? Why couldn't he figure out how to make onside kicks work? These are just a few things off the top of my head. I'm sure I could come up with a lot more if I really put some thought into it. But I won't because it just isn't worth the hassle anymore.

Maybe I'm still ticked at the way he disappeared from the board and felt he no longer needed to fix the glaring problems with the game. I could understand it if he was burned out as we were led to believe, but he just went ahead and started working on another football game. That doesn't really support the burnout excuse. Max-FB didn't sell well and I just can't see how David thinks anyone is going to buy this new game.

So since this will likely be my last post here, I just want to say good luck to any of you who stick it out and start over with the new game if/when it gets released.

And after all that, today Daivd throws forth a response:

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Greetings.

It's been a long time, but just wanted to make a really quick post.

1. I've begun the developers blog on my main web page. Please see the Development Update on the Version 3.0 section of the main page (www.maximum-football.com). This is the first of what will probably be many updates over the next months.

2. Version 3.0 is currently still multiple rules. I am adding features that improve the overall Canadian aspects of the game. Whether or not the game stays multiple rules in one package, or gets split into three distinct products has not been determined yet. Trying to make one game play three games in a balanced way has proven over the years to be an overly challenging task. Tweeking and adjusting something for one rule set, would often throw it out of whack for the others. I have to try and make the game something that can be supported.

Good business call for Daivd. Why sell one game with three rule sets when you can sell three games each with their own rule set? For the same price no doubt.

lungs · 04-02-2009, 05:28 PM

How can I preorder this game?

Autumn · 04-02-2009, 07:47 PM

It was very canny of him to pick out the exact two things people were desperate to have answered by him. The forum probably went dead after that, with everybody's concerns handled so nicely.

Surtt · 04-02-2009, 07:57 PM

So it isn't Version 3.0 it's 3.0 Versions.

JPhillips · 04-02-2009, 09:28 PM

Fuck me, I guess this means no Maximum Lacrosse.

EagleFan · 04-02-2009, 10:39 PM

Why have just one piece of shit game when you can have three?

DaddyTorgo · 04-02-2009, 10:59 PM

this fucking thread is eternal, it's never going to die at this rate!

stevew · 04-02-2009, 11:02 PM

How did I forget about Great Jason white?

cthomer5000 · 04-02-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

to be fair, no one expected the train wreck that followed

No one?

Nugget699 · 04-03-2009, 07:43 AM

maximumfootball

Check out that impartial review.

Tigercat · 04-03-2009, 08:23 AM

So the game "series" developed specifically for customizable rule sets will possibly be sold in different versions with specific rule sets?

Wow. This train just doesn't want to stop crashing.

DaddyTorgo · 04-03-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nugget699

maximumfootball

Check out that impartial review.

Was that written by a retarded chimp or a 4 year old? I can't tell.

EagleFan · 04-03-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Was that written by a retarded chimp or a 4 year old? I can't tell.

It's actually pretty funny if you look at it as a parody...

Julio Riddols · 04-03-2009, 09:02 AM

Hell yeah, another round, bartender.. I'm getting hammered off this thread.

Antmeister · 04-03-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Nugget699

maximumfootball

Check out that impartial review.

Uh....nice....I think.

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Madden vs. Maximum Football

Graphics
Madden's Got Maximum on this one
but how could they not. Look at the
budgets.

Gameplay
Maximum is just better even with no
hot routes. You can play arena, college,
pro, and canada style rules.

3rd Party
The forums at Matrix Games are the best.
Talk to David Winters (Creator of Max FB)
and other modders also go to FBMAX.COM for Maximum Football
to get more updates.

Look at these pics of jerseys and stadiums from FBmax.com

Antmeister · 04-03-2009, 01:52 PM

Oh....so this is where Pumpy got his idea for his previous FOF team.

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Originally Posted by Antmeister

Now this is a nice uniform. I can't wait for these mods because they even have gray faces with accentuates of the ruggedness of the pixelated man.

stevew · 04-16-2009, 01:49 AM

If someone could find the Jason "GREAT WHITE" response to Isiah Thomas getting hired as the coach at FIU, that would be great. I know there has to be a rant somewhere out there on the internets.

ShaneTheMaster · 04-16-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

If someone could find the Jason "GREAT WHITE" response to Isiah Thomas getting hired as the coach at FIU, that would be great. I know there has to be a rant somewhere out there on the internets.

I think you accidently posted in the best thread ever.

Ksyrup · 04-16-2009, 12:12 PM

Wait...is this an in-game shot, or a graphic simulation of a summer practice fight where a helpless offensive player got double-teamed and pummeled by a couple of defenders, while most of the rest of the team stood around and watched (except for the two guys in the upper left-hand corner who were busy getting a quick blowjob in before the rest of the team turned back around)?

Seriously, I'd really like to know. Because simulated practice fights AND sex in one "money shot," if you will...fuck, I don't even NEED a beer tent now!

stevew · 04-16-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaneTheMaster

I think you accidently posted in the best thread ever.

The FBAstartdate guy was a minor celeb in this thread, he was a FIU alum, I think it's only natural that he's gotta have an anti-isiah rant out there. Maximum hilarity.

CraigSca · 04-16-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Wait...is this an in-game shot, or a graphic simulation of a summer practice fight where a helpless offensive player got double-teamed and pummeled by a couple of defenders, while most of the rest of the team stood around and watched (except for the two guys in the upper left-hand corner who were busy getting a quick blowjob in before the rest of the team turned back around)?

Seriously, I'd really like to know. Because simulated practice fights AND sex in one "money shot," if you will...fuck, I don't even NEED a beer tent now!

I'll forgive you for this, but you failed to mention the guy wretching in the top right-hand corner.

Ksyrup · 04-16-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigSca

I'll forgive you for this, but you failed to mention the guy wretching in the top right-hand corner.

I was going to mention him, but I couldn't tell whether he was jacking off, farting, or wretching.

Ksyrup · 04-16-2009, 03:10 PM

The good news is, for those of you who are not interested in homosexual content, Daivd will be selling a separate heterosexual version of the game.

dubb93 · 04-16-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

The good news is, for those of you who are not interested in homosexual content, Daivd will be selling a separate heterosexual version of the game.

Is there not a option for homosexual or heterosexual when you set up a league?

Passacaglia · 04-16-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Wait...is this an in-game shot, or a graphic simulation of a summer practice fight where a helpless offensive player got double-teamed and pummeled by a couple of defenders, while most of the rest of the team stood around and watched (except for the two guys in the upper left-hand corner who were busy getting a quick blowjob in before the rest of the team turned back around)?

Seriously, I'd really like to know. Because simulated practice fights AND sex in one "money shot," if you will...fuck, I don't even NEED a beer tent now!

Oh my god i am giggling like mad over here.

Ksyrup · 04-16-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Is there not a option for homosexual or heterosexual when you set up a league?

That's to be decided for version 3.0. More than likely, he will separate those into separate games, each costing $54.99.

So yes, bi-sexual Max-FB uses are going to get hosed!

ShaneTheMaster · 04-16-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Is there not a option for homosexual or heterosexual when you set up a league?

Yea, there is an option for NFL or CFL rules. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Crim · 04-16-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaneTheMaster

Yea, there is an option for NFL or CFL rules. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Quality zinger.

Crim · 04-16-2009, 09:49 PM

Oh, yeah. In before the lock, too.

Izulde · 04-16-2009, 10:13 PM

Just when you think this thread's done, more Maximum Hilarity ensues.

Beautiful job by Ksyrup.

EagleFan · 04-16-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Wait...is this an in-game shot, or a graphic simulation of a summer practice fight where a helpless offensive player got double-teamed and pummeled by a couple of defenders, while most of the rest of the team stood around and watched (except for the two guys in the upper left-hand corner who were busy getting a quick blowjob in before the rest of the team turned back around)?

Seriously, I'd really like to know. Because simulated practice fights AND sex in one "money shot," if you will...fuck, I don't even NEED a beer tent now!

Thank you, I needed a good laugh.

JPhillips · 04-16-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Taking into account that this is supposed to be a screenshot of a play, what the hell are the two blockers doing ten yards downfield from the play, after the play is over, seemingly still running hard looking for someone to block?

SnDvls · 04-17-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I'm just glad I could be a part of this thread

wow only 7 months between my posts now...thanks for bumping this again.

SFL Cat · 05-12-2009, 11:10 PM

This thread ensures Maximum Football virtual immortality.

kcchief19 · 05-12-2009, 11:55 PM

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* New models required new textures. I decided to make those more efficient as well. Maximum-Football versions 1 and 2 used several textures to simply create the jersey. This was not very good use of memory and made custom uniform creation difficult. Version 3.0 uses one texture for the jersey. The new helmet texturing has also allowed for more effective helmet designs.

The pieces are finally falling into place.

cartman · 11-20-2009, 09:56 PM

Some folk just cain't let it go

Maximum Football 3.0?

cartman · 11-20-2009, 09:59 PM

Dola,

More misguided souls:

Trying To Come Back From The Dead...

JPhillips · 11-20-2009, 10:20 PM

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I would not use MS Access or OpenOffice because there is the danger that they will convert the database

I've never heard of a program that can't run with Access or OpenOffice installed.

Toddzilla · 11-20-2009, 10:35 PM

Maximum Fooootbaaaaalll.

BRAAAAIIINNS.....

Toddzilla · 11-20-2009, 10:37 PM

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I couldn't agree more, if David were to get even two or three dedicated developers to help him out I think he would easily make up for the cost in sales. I know he is obsessed with the IP rights, but I think MFB could be a really great game if he would get some help.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Coffee Warlord · 11-20-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I've never heard of a program that can't run with Access or OpenOffice installed.

Dude, you can't customize maximumally with such shitty programs eating up the maximumness.

SunDevil · 11-20-2009, 11:23 PM

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I don't believe the pace for 3.0 will be quicker than it was for 2.0.

Ok so no reason to jump the gun on this. Let's all check back in three years for an update.

lynchjm24 · 11-21-2009, 09:18 AM

How many units of 2.0 do you think he sold. Are there 50 people who bought this thing?

Apathetic Lurker · 11-21-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lynchjm24

How many units of 2.0 do you think he sold. Are there 50 people who bought this thing?

Im guessing somewhere between 500-1000. on a very educated guess. But im including all versions, not just 2.0

Terps · 11-21-2009, 07:27 PM

Bored to death at work... Re-reading through this thread helps to pass the time.

Surtt · 11-21-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

I've never heard of a program that can't run with Access or OpenOffice installed.

I have actually see this.
We have a lot of legacy applications that still use BDE.
Access changes some of the default windows settings (in the ODBC) when it installs.
Nasty problem it took me a long time to track down.

stevew · 11-21-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Party foul for not editing it to Daivd

EagleFan · 11-21-2009, 09:46 PM

I think I just figured out how the world will end. A version of Maximum Football that is actually playable and good will be released on 12/21/2012.

JPhillips · 11-21-2009, 09:52 PM

I can agree with this:

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This shows that game results in MaxFB are unpredictable, kind of like in real football.

04-02-2009, 07:57 PM	#6255
Surtt College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	So it isn't Version 3.0 it's 3.0 Versions. __________________ “The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.” United States Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis

04-02-2009, 09:28 PM	#6256
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Fuck me, I guess this means no Maximum Lacrosse. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

04-03-2009, 09:02 AM	#6265
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Hell yeah, another round, bartender.. I'm getting hammered off this thread. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

04-16-2009, 12:12 PM	#6270
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Wait...is this an in-game shot, or a graphic simulation of a summer practice fight where a helpless offensive player got double-teamed and pummeled by a couple of defenders, while most of the rest of the team stood around and watched (except for the two guys in the upper left-hand corner who were busy getting a quick blowjob in before the rest of the team turned back around)? Seriously, I'd really like to know. Because simulated practice fights AND sex in one "money shot," if you will...fuck, I don't even NEED a beer tent now! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

04-16-2009, 03:10 PM	#6274
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The good news is, for those of you who are not interested in homosexual content, Daivd will be selling a separate heterosexual version of the game. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

04-02-2009, 05:28 PM	#6253
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	How can I preorder this game?

04-02-2009, 07:47 PM	#6254
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	It was very canny of him to pick out the exact two things people were desperate to have answered by him. The forum probably went dead after that, with everybody's concerns handled so nicely.

04-02-2009, 10:39 PM	#6257
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Why have just one piece of shit game when you can have three?

04-02-2009, 10:59 PM	#6258
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	this fucking thread is eternal, it's never going to die at this rate!

04-02-2009, 11:02 PM	#6259
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	How did I forget about Great Jason white?

04-03-2009, 07:43 AM	#6261
Nugget699 H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2006	maximumfootball Check out that impartial review.

04-03-2009, 08:23 AM	#6262
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	So the game "series" developed specifically for customizable rule sets will possibly be sold in different versions with specific rule sets? Wow. This train just doesn't want to stop crashing.

04-16-2009, 01:49 AM	#6268
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	If someone could find the Jason "GREAT WHITE" response to Isiah Thomas getting hired as the coach at FIU, that would be great. I know there has to be a rant somewhere out there on the internets.

04-16-2009, 10:13 PM	#6281
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	Just when you think this thread's done, more Maximum Hilarity ensues. Beautiful job by Ksyrup. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

05-12-2009, 11:10 PM	#6285
SFL Cat College Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: South Florida	This thread ensures Maximum Football virtual immortality. Last edited by SFL Cat : 05-12-2009 at 11:11 PM.

11-20-2009, 09:56 PM	#6287
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Some folk just cain't let it go Maximum Football 3.0? __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-20-2009, 09:59 PM	#6288
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Dola, More misguided souls: Trying To Come Back From The Dead... __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

11-20-2009, 10:35 PM	#6290
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Maximum Fooootbaaaaalll. BRAAAAIIINNS.....

11-21-2009, 09:18 AM	#6294
lynchjm24 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hartford	How many units of 2.0 do you think he sold. Are there 50 people who bought this thing?

11-21-2009, 07:27 PM	#6296
Terps College Prospect Join Date: Jul 2001	Bored to death at work... Re-reading through this thread helps to pass the time.

11-21-2009, 09:46 PM	#6299
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I think I just figured out how the world will end. A version of Maximum Football that is actually playable and good will be released on 12/21/2012.

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