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09-16-2016, 01:54 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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At my son's urging I listened to Broken Matt's podcast appearance with Jericho last month.
I'll say this,the guy is all-in on the character.
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09-16-2016, 02:18 AM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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Cruiserweight belt is really ugly. In fact, most of the belts in WWE are ugly these days. The Universal Championship is terrible and the tag team belts are just abysmal.
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09-16-2016, 02:26 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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It looks like a women's title.
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10-06-2016, 09:47 AM
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General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Really cool video where Rock talks about his first match in the WWF.
Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson Hilariously Looks Back at His First Pro-Wrestling Match |
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10-10-2016, 06:33 PM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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10-10-2016, 06:43 PM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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Alberto Del Rio has not been a positive influence on her career. 24 years old and has basically thrown her career away for him.
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10-10-2016, 07:08 PM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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I doubt anyone follows Progress here but Jimmy Havoc returned to Progress a couple weeks ago (he had a horrific knee injury awhile back). One of the best characters in the independents. The pop from it was incredible.
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10-13-2016, 05:38 PM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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I just want to say that I'm blown away by how good AJ Styles is at wrestling. I had seen him a little in TNA but never followed it that closely. It seems like he could have a great match with anyone.
He also basically saved a guys life in the ring this week. AJ Styles saved James Ellsworth from serious injury on SmackDown Live - Cageside Seats |
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10-13-2016, 05:49 PM
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College Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.
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Yeah, noticed that live. A couple of guys ended up with broken necks from the move while AJ was working independents after leaving TNA. There was even talk that WWE wasn't going to let him use the move when he first showed up, hence the use of the Phenomenal Forearm. Ellsworth is a lucky man and AJ did a great job of protecting his opponent. Just a true professional. On a side note, I wish Ellsworth had a brother because he's got a Mulkey vibe to him. |
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10-14-2016, 03:50 PM
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Mountains
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Interesting times for TNA. Though I'm not sure TNA has ever had un-interesting times.
They're facing lawsuits from both a former production company, and from Billy Corgan, who claims that Dixie Carter owes him money personally. Corgan successfully got a temporary restraining order that prevents Carter from selling the company to anyone else, for the moment. They had to edit the last POP TV show to edit out music they haven't paid for. TNA was recently hit with a tax lien by the state of Tennessee. That lowers the value of the company until, and if, it's paid. And, Meltzer reported that some TNA talents are planning on declaring "free agency" next week because they haven't been paid. But somehow, they're still around, and for some reason, several entities are fighting for them. Last edited by molson : 10-14-2016 at 03:52 PM. |
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10-14-2016, 04:03 PM
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College Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.
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They're putting out their best product in years. The storylines are almost all good to great. The character development has been excellent. Unfortunately, Dixie probably did too much damage for them to survive one last time (unless Corgan buys them). |
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10-14-2016, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Seeing reports that Dale Oliver (their longtime music guy) hasn't been paid, well, that bodes REALLY poorly for them. I mean, he's arguably been around longer than just about anyone, through the bad times & the worse times, so if he's forcing them to pull his work before the shows air then he has to think there's not much hope of getting paid.
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10-14-2016, 04:18 PM
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Mountains
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Corgan should just start his own promotion. I get that the TV contracts are a big thing, but POP TV and whatever TNA has overseas obviously isn't anywhere close to enough to sustain the company, so, how much value do those contracts really have? PWG is apparently doing very well, and a bunch of other indies are doing decently. Corgan has blown so much money that he probably won't get back from TNA and Dixie, even if he does eventually get the company. And if he does, what drastic changes can he make to make it profitable?
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10-14-2016, 04:23 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Perception. Those TV deals are the only difference between TNA & Billy Championship Wrestling, coming soon to a middle school gym near you. Complete with intermission raffle. (Though, frankly, being on POP qualifies as having a TV deal in only the strictest sense of the words) They're also what theoretically prevents ROH from being hailed as the consensus #2 company in the U.S. Now whether those things translate to the bottom line, that's a whole different subject.
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10-14-2016, 04:23 PM
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College Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.
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I was thinking that same thing. The problem really is the TV deal. TNA has cratered in the ratings the last two weeks, dropping from 365k to 284k. Wrestling also doesn't bring in advertising buys at the rates that networks want.
If I'm Corgan, I'm already in talks with POP to take the TNA timeslot. I would also be looking into how to gain the rights to certain gimmicks if TNA goes bankrupt. |
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10-18-2016, 08:39 AM
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Las Vegas
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Is it a problem when Goldberg can come back after 10+ years and cut a better promo than 95% of the current roster?
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10-18-2016, 09:26 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Goldberg and I are basically the same age (he's four months older).
The cool part there? The emotion before the promo began. A phenomenal character played by an rather imperfect guy. I hope he's got one more match in him.
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10-18-2016, 09:28 AM
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College Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.
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Considering he was never a good promo guy, give him credit for the promo of his life but call it a fluke. |
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10-18-2016, 09:43 AM
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Las Vegas
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The only problem I have is I know how this is going to play out with Vince in charge. Bury another WCW guy. I'm also ready for the disappointment as he probably won't be all trapezoids anymore and look like a 50 year old version of himself but I believe he is motivated to put on a better show than Brock-Goldberg from Mania using his kid as the key motivation. Can't lie, I marked out a little inside watching it though. |
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10-18-2016, 09:48 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Las Vegas
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He never had to talk as he was surrounded by others who could do that while he just had to look massive and wrestle stiff. Even watching an old match it wasn't the greatest stuff but just to have the strength to hold up Big Show for the jackhammer for that long was enough to forget his mic skills. |
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10-18-2016, 10:20 AM
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General Manager
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I'm obviously late to the party, but that Goldberg entrance was f'n epic.
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10-18-2016, 10:58 AM
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Backwoods, SC
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Im like Murrayyyyyyyyy though
It sucks inside knowing Goldberg gets buried by Vince for cash. |
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10-18-2016, 10:11 PM
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College Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.
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James Ellsworth is a gentleman and a scholar.
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10-18-2016, 10:39 PM
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Coordinator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
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Watch an episode of Talking Smack or one of the behind the scenes shows on the network and you'll see that the problem isn't that guys can't cut very good promos, it's that they aren't allowed to do so on the main show. Every time a guy comes out and says something that isn't scripted it's pretty good and remarkably better than 99% of the rest of the promos on said show.
All that being said, Goldberg was awesome. After his Lesnar match he has to come to Smackdown and do one last match with the man, the myth, the legend...James Ellsworth.  |
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10-26-2016, 02:02 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Not a ton in this that we didn't know already I don't think. New legal filings from Billy Corgan say TNA is insolvent and that WWE is in negotiations to buy their assets (the tape library seems to be what they're interested in).
WWE in negotiations to buy insolvent TNA wrestling, according to Billy Corgan lawsuit
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10-31-2016, 04:34 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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http://www.tennessean.com/story/mone...-tna/93069526/
So Corgan's takeover fails, looks like production company Aroluxe (which includes former TNA workers Ron & Don Harris) are probably next in line to take control of the company.
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11-01-2016, 02:02 AM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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Can't remember a Women's match that brutal (not bad, just violent) in WWE before.
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11-01-2016, 10:32 AM
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The State of Rutgers
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I think Anthem Sports & Entertainment in Canada is supposedly buying 85% of the company from Dixie and paying off Corgan, and then the CEO of Aroluxe is going to run the day to day operations. Sounds like a lot of cost cutting will be done though, with them taping even more infrequently then they are now.
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11-01-2016, 10:51 AM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Yeah, I've seen that since my initial post. I'll be honest, on my quick read through of something that mentioned Anthem initially, my brain misread that as being the shell company that Dixie & her husband had formed at some point, rather than the Fight Network folks it actually is.
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11-01-2016, 11:09 AM
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College Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.
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It's interesting that this many people want to keep TNA afloat. It's a shame that Dixie went full mark and did the Hogan/Hall & Nash/Russo era(s). They've had a good to great product several times, but it feels like they're too damaged now to ever be a meaningful company on a national level. I think Matt Hardy said it best recently when he said the first thing to do is change the name. TNA was a bad idea for a name from the start.
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11-01-2016, 11:26 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Well,maybe at the level it eventually peaked at but it really wasn't an horrible notion when this was simply a fledging uncertain idea from Jerry Jarrett. I mean, the promotion initially had dancers suspended above the corners of the ring in cages for cryin' out loud. They spent, what, at least a year living up to the not-so-subtle suggestion the name carried.
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11-01-2016, 11:50 AM
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Mountains
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They'll have to do something dramatic. The company can't exist as it's currently structured, there obviously just isn't enough money coming in. I guess they'll just do a couple of annual tapings from Florida, and maybe the Fight Network thinks it can recoup some money from the tape library? I look forward to the book version of how all this went down, I still think it will be a "Death of TNA" story sooner or later. They were a profitable company when they were on Spike. I think the big 3 mistakes were spending big money on talent (when there was plenty of indy guys and WWE castoffs who would love the national TV exposure), hitting the road for house shows, and most hilariously, lying to Spike about their employment of Vince Russo, which led directly to their cancellation there. Last edited by molson : 11-01-2016 at 11:51 AM. |
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11-01-2016, 11:54 AM
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College Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.
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Ah yes, the days of Wednesday PPV, The Johnsons, and the Dupp Brothers. With them having lasted this long, and produced a current WWE champ, it's definitely more than anyone had reason to expect from how it started. |
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11-01-2016, 01:13 PM
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Coordinator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
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2010. Spike gave them Monday night head to head with Raw. They had Hogan & Flair.
And the first two hours of that show was filled with guys not being able to get out of a ridiculous cage structure, Hulk Hogan announcing he'd been in the back all day (despite the first hour showing his limo on the way to the arena about 10 times), The Nasty Boys, Val Venis, Hall, Nash & Waltman. They popped a huge rating, and everyone watching laughed and never tuned back in. |
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11-03-2016, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Mountains
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Anthem Sports & Entertainment and Impact Ventures Announce Credit Relationship | Fight Network
Fight Network announces that they have "provided a credit facility to TNA to fund operations" and that Corgan is out. I guess that means they have an ownership interest too, though they just argued in court that credit-for-ownership deals are unethical and illegal in Tennessee. |
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11-20-2016, 12:45 PM
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The State of Rutgers
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Great NXT Takeover show last night. Revival vs #DIY had a match of the year contender. Joe vs Nakamura was really good as well.
I don't expect as much from Survivor Series tonight, but with a 4 hour card, hopefully we can get some fast paced action in the elimination matches. |
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11-20-2016, 01:17 PM
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Coordinator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
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Gargano/Chiampa Vs Revival is my favorite feud in forever. It's the perfect combination of old school booking/storytelling with modern athleticism. And it's going to culminate with the most beautiful turn.
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11-20-2016, 01:54 PM
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The State of Rutgers
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I get it, but why does the turn have to happen in NXT in the near future? Revival should be on the main roster tomorrow. Come in and beat Slater/Rhyno for the title on day one.
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11-20-2016, 02:34 PM
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Las Vegas
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Besides Kalisto winning the Cruiserweight title to move all those guys to 205 Live, is there a match Smackdown should win tonight? You can't have them lose the womens or tag match because they need to be the stronger showing on RAW. I guess there could be a Dusty Finish with the 5-on-5 involving Taker but don't care to think about that. I would be pleased if someone takes out Shane before the match and we get Cena or Taker as the 5th but I think he will somehow last until the final 3 and someone will pull some tricks. |
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11-20-2016, 03:03 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Gargano/Chiampa have been so dialed in for months, and Revival is not only doing great work but I get the extra kick of seeing a guy I watched in NWA Anarchy when he was green as grass do so well. "Steven Walters" becoming Dash Wilder borders on mindboggling to me.
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11-20-2016, 03:05 PM
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Mar 2012
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The sad part is I'm sure the Revival will be wasted on the main roster at this time. Those guys are pure 80's classic territories heel, and I love it. Doesn't seem like the kind of thing Vince would appreciate sadly.
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11-20-2016, 04:02 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: The State of Rutgers
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Smackdown should win every match. Much better show.
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11-20-2016, 06:25 PM
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Location: Chicago, IL
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Agree but I'd also say the same for Samoa Joe. What's the point of him on NXT anymore? |
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11-20-2016, 10:31 PM
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High School Varsity
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Well that was some interesting booking....
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11-20-2016, 10:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Burke, VA
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that was....unexpected
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11-20-2016, 11:03 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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I think I'd be pissed if I was one of the full-timers
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11-20-2016, 11:57 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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I gotta say, I like the finish of the next-to-last match as it relates to one of the subplots they're trying to sell. I don't know what I think of that storyline just yet tbh, but I like the way they went about advancing the story.
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11-21-2016, 10:12 AM
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Parañaque, Philippines
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Why? That match and result basically guarantees eyeballs on RAW tomorrow, something that can't be said in the last few months.
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11-21-2016, 06:08 PM
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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Because Brock buried all the full-timers over the last couple years and then gave the rub to a 50-year old who will maybe wrestle a few matches anymore. If I was busting my ass 300 days a year, I'd want that win over Brock. Imagine what it would have done for someone like Rollins or Ambrose. |
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11-21-2016, 06:08 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
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Kendrick is really good.
Brian Kendrick is on a mission against Kalisto at Survivor Series - YouTube |
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