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Old 12-05-2013, 09:33 AM   #6401
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Sad to see that many of the media (pics, songs, etc.) posted in the thread are broken links.

But, in a ray of light, I think I stumbled upon one of our favorite posters from over on the Matrix forms. It seems he was able to overcome not being able to get his mobile, hurricane proof football league up and running.

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Old 12-05-2013, 07:03 PM   #6402
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:21 AM   #6403
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:28 AM   #6404
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FYI: Matrix has Maximum Football 2.0 half-off right now. It's only 19.99!
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:38 AM   #6405
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I didn't believe you so I had to check.

It's true.

Matrix Games - Maximum-Football 2.0

$20 for a 7 year old game.

$20 for THAT 7 year old game. But hey...full DirectX 9 support! And XBox 360 controller support!

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Old 12-16-2014, 12:52 PM   #6406
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It's true.

Matrix Games - Maximum-Football 2.0

$20 for a 7 year old game.

$20 for THAT 7 year old game. But hey...full DirectX 9 support! And XBox 360 controller support!

Check out those graphics!
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:14 PM   #6407
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I'd prefer the boxed version for $29.99. That's something that looks great on a shelf. Plus, it says right there that it takes more than 5 hours to download on a 56K Modem, and I simply can't tie up the phone line that long.

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Old 12-16-2014, 01:23 PM   #6408
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I'd prefer the boxed version for $29.99. That's something that looks great on a shelf. Plus, it says right there that it takes more than 5 hours to download on a 56K Modem, and I simply can't tie up the phone line that long.

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Old 12-16-2014, 01:41 PM   #6409
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Those stats are hilarious…

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We now take you to MAXIMUM FOOTBALL Sports News, covering the flagship Online League of this cutting edge simulation…

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Well, after two weeks of play, we’ve had quite a few thrilling games and some amazing achievements, that’s for sure. Let’s take a look at some of the league’s standout statistics.

Apparently Leipzig has a bit of work to do on their passing game. In 38 attempts so far, quarterback Bolden as thrown 40 interceptions.

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Yes, but let’s now be so quick to criticize him. First it’s not easy to throw more than one interception on the same play, and Bolden has managed to do that on more than one occasion. Second, he has completed 15 of his passes, so that means that 55 of his 38 pass attempts have been caught by somebody. Third, you can’t just blame the quarterback in a situation like this; you’ve also got to look at the offensive line. They’ve had some minor problems protecting him. If you look at the stats, he’s been sacked 90 times in their two games. That's what I call a real beating! Lastly, it may have just been some outstanding play by Sasketchupwan's Russell, as he has picked off 43 passes in two games, and may just be a demi-god in human form.

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Yes, but I'm sure their passing woes can be fixed with a bit of uniform design. Rumor has it that Leipzig's coach has hired Calvin Klein to a two-year, $7.1-million dollar contract as a team fashion designer; Leipzig’s passing game will be back in form once they get their colors in line.

But's let's move on and take a look at kick return specialist Lockett from Calgary, who has been busy in the first two weeks of games. Lockett has amassed nearly 200 yards in kick off returns over the first two weeks.

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While this may seem productive, I want to point out that it took Lockett 161 returns to get this yardage. The highlight of Lockett’s season came when he broke off a personal-best 6-yard return. Commented Lockett on his long return, "I caught the ball, took two steps forward, and fell down cuz' some big guy was running at me! Booya! Most of the time I catch the ball and try to remember what I’m supposed to do, but that time, I remembered: run forward! That’s what coach keeps telling me to do.”

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But by far the most amazing performance so far has been the Toronto Argonauts, who have burst out of the gate to a 2-0 start. They have outscored their opponents 118-9, and this is enough to give them a league-high winning percentage of 1311.11%. Way to go Argonauts!

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Wait a moment, there! Don’t forget about penalty goals! Yes, with Maximum Football you can customize the game, and in our flagship league, tie games are decided by soccer midgets that run onto the field and kick watermelons at llamas! The penalty kicks made the difference with Edmonton and Montreal, as Edmonton lost then won because Montreal’s midget hit the llama between the eyes!

What excitement!

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Yes, that’s MAXIMUM FOOTBALL for you! Well, our time is up. We’ll be back next week for a closer look at the league’s other stat categories. Thanks for tuning in! See you next week*!

*In Maximum Football time units. One week equals 38 days. So two weeks equals, ummmm, 137.37% days.

Just reviving some random greatness from this thread. You almost can't miss.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:00 PM   #6410
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Here a good one from my random search
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:03 PM   #6411
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Looks like Daivd brought his experience from Maximum Football to his job as Product Manager for Mechwarior Online. From Metacritic:

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The game as been more-or-less in its current state for ALMOST A YEAR. If that doesn't tell you much about the game, I don't know what will. It's gotten stale, and the design decisions the development team has taken with the things they have changed range from confusing at best to outright bad for the game.

Play if you like mechs. You might have fun for awhile, but unless the game changes in any real meaningful way anytime soon, expect to be bored after that time.

Also I'd advise against spending money unless you clearly agree with where the game is and where it's going. Don't let the developers place that "carrot on a stick" with some promises. They haven't delivered on any of them yet, don't expect that to change.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:36 PM   #6412
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From before things got really wacky...

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The fact that Matrix Games does not seem to get this has me change my guess of release date from last Wednesday to "Never . . . or if it does get released, it will be so buggy that people are given refunds, and the code is just made freesource for hobbyists and the like"

...good times.
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:07 PM   #6413
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We all know that this poser can't stand
In this contest, that he is outmanned
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But his work fails the test
Funny name pal, give props to Ayn Rand

So happy . . .
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:14 PM   #6414
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I didn't believe you so I had to check.

It's true.

Matrix Games - Maximum-Football 2.0

$20 for a 7 year old game.

$20 for THAT 7 year old game. But hey...full DirectX 9 support! And XBox 360 controller support!

Hmm, I see the people, but where are the planes and the tanks?
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:16 PM   #6415
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I like the Wes Welker helmets.
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:20 PM   #6416
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It's a shame he didn't make the game today, Daivd Winters could've just put the game on Steam Early Access and left it at that.
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Old 12-16-2014, 03:59 PM   #6417
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I remain proud of my work in this thread. Some of my finest, both professionally and personally.
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Old 12-16-2014, 04:39 PM   #6418
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I'm sad my images are gone. I learned a lot about photoshop from working on these.

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Old 12-16-2014, 05:29 PM   #6419
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I love that stat line discussion, in 38 attempts he has thrown 40 interceptions.... That's Ryan Leaf territory right there....
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:53 PM   #6420
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I was going through the Max Football Media List and was sad to see most of the graphics and gifs made for this thread were gone.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:55 PM   #6421
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but these are still there:

YTMND - Maximum Customization
YTMND - Maximum Obfuscation

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Old 12-17-2014, 11:03 AM   #6422
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One of the all-time greats posts here.

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This is like watching a car wreck. But one where, every so often, someone walks over and punches the driver in the face as he struggles to free himself from the wreckage.

LOL. Every time I read it I laugh. Great work.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:10 AM   #6423
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I am so very tempted to buy this.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:12 AM   #6424
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One thing I have learned from this thread, either Cartman owns his own company or he is grossly stealing time from his employer. That is all.

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I'm the defect regression tester for Winter Valley.

Poor BW was playing Connect Four while the rest of us were playing chess.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:54 AM   #6425
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There was a too-short maximum football dynasty, I'd love it if someone picked this up and did a longer one. For art, and science.

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Old 12-17-2014, 01:34 PM   #6426
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The true secret is it's done, they just have to upload it to their server. Unfortunately, when this game entered development, it was back in the days of 300 baud modems. Having never upgraded their hardware, it's taken several years to upload it to the web.

Expect the upload to finish in 2014.

Still have a couple of weeks left for this to come to fruition!
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Old 12-19-2014, 09:23 PM   #6427
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One of the all-time greats posts here.

This brought me back to this thread because it's been my signature here pretty much since the day albion wrote it. Blown away to see it's 8 years ago now.

I also just took down my website the other day, which probably broke a few more links in this thread. I throw myself on the mercy of FOFC. Sorry guys.
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Old 01-15-2015, 12:43 PM   #6428
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Gosh, I'm in tears from laughter just reading the last page of this thread.
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:15 AM   #6429
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I think this thread is finally dying.

From page 47. Wasn't a huge hit at the time, but in multi-year retrospect after another 100+ pages... unexpected hilarity.
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Old 12-30-2015, 04:13 PM   #6430
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Happy 10th birthday, you greatest thread you.
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Old 12-30-2015, 04:38 PM   #6431
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More awesome old timey MF fun...

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What I don't get is IF there's no contract negotiations, how does the game determine length of contract and when/if a player is a free agent?

Every year all the free agents goes into the "draft" and then some new players are thrown in as well. When you draft someone, does he automatically sign for X number of years? Just seems weird to me.

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Remember, the game is flexible. That's the masthead selling point here.

So, you get two options how to determine these things -- the game currently comes with a hat, or wait for M-F2, where you can link to a random number generator.

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The hat might delay the game by another year...and of course, you'll have to provide your own numbers to put in it.

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I'd guess it's like FBPro, where the players stay on your team until you cut them or they retire. So the free agents would just be the spares who were cut.. But I have no basis for that, just a straight up guess.

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That's probably right, although I liked the hat idea better.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:00 PM   #6432
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This thread can still make me cry with laughter (read the GB reposted thread on this page).
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Old 01-01-2016, 09:21 PM   #6433
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I don't come by as often as I used to because I spend all my time playing Maximum Football.
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Old 02-20-2016, 12:35 AM   #6434
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The last vestige of their universe has checked out. The Maxmykal forums are no more. RIP maximum-football game fans.

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Old 02-20-2016, 06:44 AM   #6435
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This is really challenging to read.


Who the fuck types it FootBall? That makes my eyes bleed.

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Old 02-20-2016, 02:26 PM   #6437
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Well hot damn! I've been hoping I could find someone to tutor me on how to improve at Maximum Football for a decade. Yay!
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Old 02-20-2016, 03:26 PM   #6438
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:29 PM   #6439
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Aaron Rodgers Enters Mysterious Tent On Sideline, Re-Appears Minutes Later | Daily Snark

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Old 11-30-2016, 05:48 PM   #6440
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Maximum Football was clearly ahead of its time.
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Old 06-23-2017, 11:15 PM   #6441
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Canadian Football 2017 on Steam

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I did a search for "football" at Steam and spotted this Canadian Football title (coming July 2017). Clicked on the video and thought that it looked eerily similar to something that I had seen before . . .
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Old 06-24-2017, 12:30 AM   #6442
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Old 06-24-2017, 12:36 AM   #6443
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Canadian Football 2017 on Steam

Developed by Daivd A. Winter
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I did a search for "football" at Steam and spotted this Canadian Football title (coming July 2017). Clicked on the video and thought that it looked eerily similar to something that I had seen before . . .

Are my eyes deceiving me, or do I see TWO beer tents in one of those stadiums?

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Old 06-24-2017, 12:47 AM   #6444
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Old 06-24-2017, 01:36 AM   #6445
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Is it just me or do some of those team logos look exactly like the team logos in the Madden create-a-team mode, on the last PC version of Madden?
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:35 AM   #6446
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You know, as much as we ragged on maximum football, the animations in this appear to be quite a bit better. If this is still a one man operation, he has at least improved quite a bit on things from what I can tell. Gotta give the man credit for continuing to plug away.

I await first impressions with bated breath.
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Old 06-24-2017, 08:30 AM   #6447
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Haven't seen stadium graphics like that since Triple Play 97.
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Old 06-24-2017, 05:06 PM   #6448
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You know, as much as we ragged on maximum football, the animations in this appear to be quite a bit better. If this is still a one man operation, he has at least improved quite a bit on things from what I can tell. Gotta give the man credit for continuing to plug away.

I await first impressions with bated breath.
He's had TEN YEARS to futz around with this, it better look good.
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Old 06-24-2017, 05:51 PM   #6449
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Baby steps, haha. 10 years of baby steps.
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Old 06-24-2017, 06:06 PM   #6450
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Is it just me or do some of those team logos look exactly like the team logos in the Madden create-a-team mode, on the last PC version of Madden?

That would be part of the proud Maximum Football tradition.
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