Trump Indictment/Trial thread-2023

[CrimsonFox]

site him for contempt of court and put him in county jail.

[Thomkal]

Judge asks why the defendant should not receive sanctions including jail time for not following his orders to remove all mentions of the things he called for to be removed. Trump's lawyer said it was an oversight. Judge said he would rule later, so Trump and his lawyers had best be on their best behavior today. I would love the judge to order his lawyers to jail for the weekend with an order to be more diligent and thorough in following out his orders.

[Edward64]

Ken Chesebro also takes plea deal

[albionmoonlight]

Hundreds of reporters/editors sigh and delete their pre-written "The Cheese Stands Alone" headlines for the first day of his trial without Powell.

[Ghost Econ]

They can replace it with, "No More 4D Chese, bro"

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Judge asks why the defendant should not receive sanctions including jail time for not following his orders to remove all mentions of the things he called for to be removed. Trump's lawyer said it was an oversight. Judge said he would rule later, so Trump and his lawyers had best be on their best behavior today. I would love the judge to order his lawyers to jail for the weekend with an order to be more diligent and thorough in following out his orders.

But a fine would be more likely.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

But a fine would be more likely.

Yeah that would seem to be the way to start to get them to fully comply with his orders, but man I would still love to see that happen


Not sure if this is possible, but no Trump paying for everyone, or fundraising to pay the fines, just come straight out of their pocket.

[Ghost Econ]

Fining a person who doesn't pay people willingly seems like a pointless endeavor.

[Ksyrup]

I know it's the game that has to be played, and especially someone like Trump is going to get plenty of leeway, but $5K for an "inadvertent" violation. GMAFB.

[PilotMan]

Thanks Obama

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I know it's the game that has to be played, and especially someone like Trump is going to get plenty of leeway, but $5K for an "inadvertent" violation. GMAFB.

There are only a handful of people on the planet who would be out on bail with the charges that are against him. He already made a post on Truth Social sort of mocking it.

[Edward64]

"Turns out Chese and Krakers are the perfect appetizers”

[Thomkal]

Well we knew it was coming-the I don't know Sidney Powell tweet now that's she's flipped on him:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...95680219902230

[GrantDawg]

"This Donald Trump they convicted I have never heard of." -Donald J. Trump

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Well we knew it was coming-the I don't know Sidney Powell tweet now that's she's flipped on him:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...95680219902230

STOLLEN!

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Well we knew it was coming-the I don't know Sidney Powell tweet now that's she's flipped on him:


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...95680219902230

I look forward to Mayor Giuliani spearheading the legal effort to defend OUR RIGHT to FREE and FAIR ELECTIONS! Rudy Giuliani, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis, a truly great team, added to our other wonderful lawyers and representatives!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2020

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

"This Donald Trump they convicted I have never heard of." -Donald J. Trump

I'm pretty sure that is the insanity defense they are going to use eventually

[RainMaker]

This interview with Cheseboro's lawyer makes it seem like he isn't going to be a witness or offer anything. Seems like he just hired good lawyers and got a great deal because guys lime that usually get the benefit of the doubt in our justice system.

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo196120133942

[GrantDawg]

The 400-page GBI report just came out that lays out very clearly the type of things they both will have to testify to that will definitely help the case against the other co-defendants. As a matter of fact the state AG Chris Carr, a Republican, says he might bring additional charges. They pled because they were going down.

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[Ksyrup]

Calling Trump a moron is an insult to morons.

Trump: I'm for us. You know how you spell us, right? U.S. I just picked that up. Has anyone ever thought of that before? I'm reading and said us. You know, when you think about it, us, equals U.S. If we think of something genius, they will never say it. pic.twitter.com/xzXTMRRge6

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 23, 2023

[Edward64]

Another plea deal. Jenna Ellis.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Another plea deal. Jenna Ellis.

Wow. She seemed like (1) a TRUE believer and (2) too dumb to realize how much trouble she was in.

I really saw her fighting to the end.

[Ksyrup]

A felony on your record and cropdusted by Rudy on video. Hope it was worth it.

I also hope these attorneys pleading to felonies get their licenses revoked in the cascade of having to report a felony conviction, but I won't hold my breath.

[Thomkal]

Yeah not so defiant now are you Jenna? And stop claiming you are a Christian because if there was any influence on you, it surely wasn't from God.


https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...17540696113470

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

A felony on your record and cropdusted by Rudy on video. Hope it was worth it.

I also hope these attorneys pleading to felonies get their licenses revoked in the cascade of having to report a felony conviction, but I won't hold my breath.

one of the ways to get lawyers to stop from doing this again is to make sure they lose their license, and let their names and actions become a lesson in every law school.

[Edward64]

As a GA taxpayer, I also want some frakking jail terms and bigger penalties. 30 days in a white collar prison and significant financial penalties, garnish their wages for next 30 years so every time they get paid, they remember.

So far, these look like wrist slaps.

[albionmoonlight]

Spoiler

I mean, it must have been a heck of a journey for her lawyer to get her from this to "you know, you are actually in some trouble here."

[Ghost Econ]

I like that she is still tweeting conspiracy theories, even this morning. It's as though they don't actually believe the things they say in court

[CrimsonFox]

albion, please remove that picture. I can't stand looking at that

[Ghost Econ]

It's like a mid-transition Bill Belicheck.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I also hope these attorneys pleading to felonies get their licenses revoked in the cascade of having to report a felony conviction, but I won't hold my breath.

Probably won't happen unfortunately.

Ellis’s lawyers agreed with prosecutors that the offense she admitted to Tuesday was not “a crime of moral turpitude.” That agreement, which is also a part of the guilty pleas by the other Trump-affiliated lawyers, could help them avoid disbarment or other serious action against their law licenses.

[Kodos]

She has a radiant smile!

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

albion, please remove that picture. I can't stand looking at that

[Kodos]

Can a female insurrectionist lawyer ever be called "hot"?

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Can a female insurrectionist lawyer ever be called "hot"?

Hmmmmm, she’s kinda a Karen ….

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Edward64

As a GA taxpayer, I also want some frakking jail terms and bigger penalties. 30 days in a white collar prison and significant financial penalties, garnish their wages for next 30 years so every time they get paid, they remember.

So far, these look like wrist slaps.

As a taxpayer, this is the best bang for our buck. It would cost thousands of dollars per trial to convict these people who are really minor fish to the big Kahuna. If Rudy or Trump gets slaps on the wrist, it would be a waist. But getting Sydney Powell and Jenna Ellis to admit everything they were saying was unfounded lies is well worth sparing a trial. This the smart play for the prosecution, and exactly what you see in most RICO trials. You keep rolling people over till you get the actual boss.

[GrantDawg]

Well that's finally official:

BREAKING: Mark Meadows was granted immunity to testify under oath in Trump's Washington, DC election subversion case and spoke with special counsel Jack Smith's team multiple times, @ABC reports.https://t.co/QQGMVwKRf3

— Democracy Docket (@DemocracyDocket) October 24, 2023

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

It's like a mid-transition Bill Belicheck.

I can't function anymore...this...this is so....omg...this....so this....omg...

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

As a taxpayer, this is the best bang for our buck. It would cost thousands of dollars per trial to convict these people who are really minor fish to the big Kahuna. If Rudy or Trump gets slaps on the wrist, it would be a waist. But getting Sydney Powell and Jenna Ellis to admit everything they were saying was unfounded lies is well worth sparing a trial. This the smart play for the prosecution, and exactly what you see in most RICO trials. You keep rolling people over till you get the actual boss.

Considering how quickly the dominos are falling, I think Kraken, Cheseboro, Ellis would have accepted a plea deal even if the fines were increased and there was a 30 day stay at Club Fed.

Just tell them if you don't plea now, there's someone right behind you & there's a real prison waiting for your lily white asses.

[GrantDawg]

I think the prosecutor probably has a better feel of what would work.

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[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Well that's finally official:



If this is true, this is ballgane for me-Trump will never do so so Meadows is about as high as you can get in Trump's orbit

[Ksyrup]

Apparently Sidney Powell - since her guilty plea - has been out there on social media picking up right where she left off talking about or sharing articles and other comments about the election being stolen and being forced to plead guilty on political charges, etc. I can only assume this is to help pay for legal costs but I would also assume the prosecutor is looking at all of this in relation to her plea agreement. I'm sure her argument will be "free speech" but it's certainly unusual to have someone you expect to testify be out in public talking in direct contrast to the crimes they just pleaded guilty to.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Apparently Sidney Powell - since her guilty plea - has been out there on social media picking up right where she left off talking about or sharing articles and other comments about the election being stolen and being forced to plead guilty on political charges, etc. I can only assume this is to help pay for legal costs but I would also assume the prosecutor is looking at all of this in relation to her plea agreement. I'm sure her argument will be "free speech" but it's certainly unusual to have someone you expect to testify be out in public talking in direct contrast to the crimes they just pleaded guilty to.

Okay Fani. Time for you to get tough.

If true, revoke the plea deal.

[Thomkal]

Judge Engoron has Trump take the stand and questions him to his latest comments in violation of his gag order. Doesn't seem to believe him and fines him $10,000

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Apparently Sidney Powell - since her guilty plea - has been out there on social media picking up right where she left off talking about or sharing articles and other comments about the election being stolen and being forced to plead guilty on political charges, etc. I can only assume this is to help pay for legal costs but I would also assume the prosecutor is looking at all of this in relation to her plea agreement. I'm sure her argument will be "free speech" but it's certainly unusual to have someone you expect to testify be out in public talking in direct contrast to the crimes they just pleaded guilty to.

She raised over 200k for her legal defense and has people wanting that money refunded since she got a plea deal. She's probably broke and hoping doing this allows her to keep that money.

[CrimsonFox]

MSN

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

MSN

That was all a play to the only court Trump cares about, the court of public opinion.

[GrantDawg]

Trump has taken the stand in his civil case and is just hamming it up. Attacking the judge, not answering questions, and claiming the whole thing is a farce. Things that would put anyone else in jail for contempt, and of course nothing is going to happen to him.

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[Atocep]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Trump has taken the stand in his civil case and is just hamming it up. Attacking the judge, not answering questions, and claiming the whole thing is a farce. Things that would put anyone else in jail for contempt, and of course nothing is going to happen to him.

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From what I've read this is all part of their legal strategy. They're trying to frustrate and piss the judge off to the point that he makes mistakes to improve their chances on appeal. They know he's lost this and they're just trying to get it overturned on procedural or other errors.

[Thomkal]

Here's a bit of what happened: Trump just seems to think he can name any value he wants for his properties because he was President, and the banks all wanted to do deals with him


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