Werewolf XLVII City of Wonder (Game Over!)

[Alan T]

I'm pretty easy about at least 3 of the 4 I listed that I would vote for, so I'd be up for switching my vote perhaps to one of the others if need be later on. I should be back tonight, just don't know when.

Getting out a vote at least for now..
Vote Goldeneagle

Back later hopefully.

[Swaggs]

Another thing I am a little curious about is that folks seem hesitant to share what goes on during the night phase and/or what items they had. To me, having "disposable" items gives us a little extra power over the wolves in this game, as someone with a seer or a bodyguard power can share their information without fear of being IDed as the seer or bodyguard.

We need to get some info out in the open, in my opinion.

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I'm not going to be around for a whole lot longer and it looks like nothing is shaping up.

Here are my observations from the vote totals:

-Path and cronin voted together on the first two nights.
-Golden Eagle has voted late each day. His was the deciding vote that sent DT to his death and preserved Render on Day 1. Each day afterwards, he placed a late, inconsequential vote. On day 2, it was a late pile-on for st.cronin. On day 3, a throwaway vote for Render, after LSG had a significant lead.


Those two are high on my radar. And, actually, I think there is something fishy about the path/ardent thing, still.

Right now, I'm going to throw a vote out and see what comes of it.

Vote Golden Eagle

Yes, i have been voting late this game but most of it has to do with my work schedule. Also, LSG had a two vote lead at the time over Render. I would not call that a runaway by any means.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Yes, i have been voting late this game but most of it has to do with my work schedule. Also, LSG had a two vote lead at the time over Render. I would not call that a runaway by any means.

I wouldn't call a two vote lead a runaway either.

But, at the time you voted (with 9-minutes left until the deadline), LSG was up over Render by four votes.

Day 3:

(6) Lonestargirl - Alan (405), Render (416), Swaggs (420), ntndeacon (442), ardent (481), saldana (484)
(4) Render - Lathum (431), path (471), GE (488)
(1) Saldana - Lonestargirl (397)

[Lathum]

Swaggs- The item I passed I didn't have an oppritunity to use and I can only keep for a day. I passed it to Path thinking at the time he is probably the most trusted because in the hands of a wolf this item is powerfull.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I don't know if it is just me and I am not pointing fingers at anyone in particular, but rather making an observation, but it seems like a lot of folks are transferring items, rather than using them.

I don't have an item today, but I tried to use an item each of the first three nights. I guess maybe some of the items are pretty ineffective, but I really think we should be using them.

I've used an item each day so far. I'm trying to find out if I can use more than one, otherwise I might be passing some on tonight.

[ntndeacon]

I think I am going to go a little different route that to pile onto GE at this point. Several of us have mentioned their disquiet towards a certain member of this group. and he has been at the bottom of my trust list for a while, so ....
Vote Swaggs

[path12]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Another thing I am a little curious about is that folks seem hesitant to share what goes on during the night phase and/or what items they had. To me, having "disposable" items gives us a little extra power over the wolves in this game, as someone with a seer or a bodyguard power can share their information without fear of being IDed as the seer or bodyguard.

We need to get some info out in the open, in my opinion.

I'm kind of surprised that IIRC, I'm the only person who has used a scanner. There had to be more than one out there........sure seems like there is duplicates of most everything.

I couldn't agree more that if you have used the scanner or crystal ball that there is no benefit I can see in keeping those results private.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Swaggs- The item I passed I didn't have an oppritunity to use and I can only keep for a day. I passed it to Path thinking at the time he is probably the most trusted because in the hands of a wolf this item is powerfull.

You just went up some for me. I know what you sent.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I wouldn't call a two vote lead a runaway either.

But, at the time you voted (with 9-minutes left until the deadline), LSG was up over Render by four votes.

You're forgetting that he would get killed for voting LSG.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by path12

You just went up some for me. I know what you sent.

Actually he went down a bit on my list for that comment.

[GoldenEagle]

At this point, I am wondering why Render is getting a free pass. He is wiggled out of two lynchings. The whole path/Render/ardent angle is really strange. I will have more to say after work, but at this point, I am leaning toward Render.

[Lathum]

Well right back at you NTN. I am not sure why I would go down on your list but your vote stinks to me.


I think it is important to narrow ourselves dow to 2 candidates.

Your vote bought a 4th person into the fold, seems like a throw away to me.

[path12]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

The whole path/Render/ardent angle is really strange.

Huh? I understand how Ardent and I have interacted, but how does Render fit in there?

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Well right back at you NTN. I am not sure why I would go down on your list but your vote stinks to me.


I think it is important to narrow ourselves dow to 2 candidates.

Your vote bought a 4th person into the fold, seems like a throw away to me.

well since the other two people with votes have only one vote and it is still pretty early, I dont see my vote as quite the throwaway you do. The reason you went down on my list of good guys is that your description of what you passed path matched up to mine. (hopes he wont need it though. )

[path12]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

well since the other two people with votes have only one vote and it is still pretty early, I dont see my vote as quite the throwaway you do. The reason you went down on my list of good guys is that your description of what you passed path matched up to mine. (hopes he wont need it though. )

Actually, going back through the descriptions I got a couple of items last night that could have been described that way.

[Lathum]

Path- did you get 2 pardons passed to you?

[path12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Path- did you get 2 pardons passed to you?

Before I answer that tell me if you sent one, two or three.

[path12]

Originally Posted by path12

Before I answer that tell me if you sent one, two or three.

Never mind, I have my answer. You and ntn sent me the same thing.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by path12

Before I answer that tell me if you sent one, two or three.

I sent you 1 pardon.

[path12]

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE GOLDEN EAGLE

[Lathum]

path- can you confirm 100% you were not attacked last night?

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by path12

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE GOLDEN EAGLE

What is your explanation for this?

[path12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

path- can you confirm 100% you were not attacked last night?

I had no mention of any attack last night, just items that were sent.

An attack would not have been successful though, but I think I'd at least know about it.

[Lathum]

ok, That moves ntn up in my opinion.

I know if I was a wolf I would kill the person I passed the pardon to in an attempt to get it back

[path12]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

What is your explanation for this?

Well, since you asked........

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Since I swithced with AE last night, would I be informed of any items that he received. I am thinking yes.

I asked you if you received anything. You did not answer.

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Golden Eagle has voted late each day. His was the deciding vote that sent DT to his death and preserved Render on Day 1. Each day afterwards, he placed a late, inconsequential vote. On day 2, it was a late pile-on for st.cronin. On day 3, a throwaway vote for Render, after LSG had a significant lead.

Originally Posted by path12

When I look at the vote totals GE's patterns stand out to me also,

You did say that you voted late because of your work schedule, but I have no way of knowing that for sure, and the record that is there is suspicious.

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

At this point, I am wondering why Render is getting a free pass. He is wiggled out of two lynchings. The whole path/Render/ardent angle is really strange. I will have more to say after work, but at this point, I am leaning toward Render.

Again, I asked you how Render fits into my interaction with Ardent on night 1. You haven't answered as of yet. Also, the fact is that the only wolf we've caught so far has been due to my using the scanner on Ardent.

There is at least one wolf in the group of you, Lathum, Swaggs and ntn. Ntn and Lathum did not move themselves into a level of trust, but the fact that they both sent me pardons last night is somewhat meaningful and is enough for me not to vote either today. Tomorrow may be another story.

So the vote comes down to you or Swaggs. You seem the better bet to me right now.

[Lathum]

Well I have to leave in a few minutes and will probably not be home until the deadline.

I am keeping my vote on Render for now. I think it is important to narrow things down to 2 candidates and I feel strongest about him.

I was hoping someone scanned him last night but so far no dice.

Gotta go to work.

[Poli]

So, I haven't even started reading, but I had to share how my day went today.

I went to Alton as planned, rather boring day through lunch. I'm getting a little dirty, a little wet, a little hot. I found out I had to go by the office and sign off on some ladder training. It might even get me home early. Sweet.

10 minutes after lunch, I'm called out to Missouri Baptist for a trouble call. A thermostat in an operating room went out. No display. Nada, nothing, noodle.

I've been on this job for about 3 months now, but I haven't ventured out on my own yet. There's just a ton to know and cover and I've barely touched the surface so far. Thermostats, though, are relatively easy...and this one is easier than most since it's not connected to a network of any kind. Could only be 3 things, the stat, the controller, or the cable between.

"Don't worry, it'll be easy. Just remove the old stat, remove the plate, disconnect the cable, put the new stat in, replace the cable. Piece of cake. They'll probably just be in a hurry to use the room. You'll be fine."

So, I go from one job to that job with a quickness. I get there and I have to put on the doc smocks. No big deal, I think. I walk the customer through the possible scenarios (including the very unlikely ones) and I have my tool bag and computer bag with me. Piece of cake.

"One problem, though. They're in the middle of open heart surgery. You can only take what you absolutely need."

???

Oh boy.

So, I go in and get to work (after having to strip down and put on the smocks)...then I see the beating heart on the screen. Then I see the nurse cleaning something...could have been a tool, could have been tissue (human or otherwise), but it was covered in goo and blood. Perfecto.

Piece of cake. Little arcy, little sparky, when a nut went into the plugged in controller, but it's still good to go. Little screws back in the wall, and I'm out.

Whew.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by path12

I'm kind of surprised that IIRC, I'm the only person who has used a scanner. There had to be more than one out there........sure seems like there is duplicates of most everything.

I couldn't agree more that if you have used the scanner or crystal ball that there is no benefit I can see in keeping those results private.

i was thinking about this while waiting for my first plane...i am sure that your are right..there should be more than one scanner out there, but nothing in the rules prevents the wolves from having one...if one of their kills had it, then they have it, and we will never hear from it again.

[st.cronin]

Ladder training?

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Wow.. incredibly busy night for me....

First of all, I was attacked last night by the wolves. I passed my necklace last evening as I said I had to, luckily someone else protected me. If someone can come on and tell me what they sent me last night that protected me (I know the answer, but want you to tell me to verify you are who you say), then you'll be much more trusted by me.

You effin' owe me.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ladder training?

You know, this is how to climb a ladder...be safe, not sorry. Don't do stupid tricks on ladders. .

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I was passed item wolfbane leaf or whatever it's called.

.

Fixed.

[saldana]

holy crap ardent...good show to not pass out when you walked into a live operating theatre...i dont know if i would still be standing

[Poli]

This should be fun. I want to see Alan apologize. I saved his bacon.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by saldana

holy crap ardent...good show to not pass out when you walked into a live operating theatre...i dont know if i would still be standing

I was like, wow, that's....a heart on the screen....and that's...blood. That's...well, I don't know what that is but it has blood on it....and that is bloody gauze...yeah, get to work and get out of here. Quick.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I was like, wow, that's....a heart on the screen....and that's...blood. That's...well, I don't know what that is but it has blood on it....and that is bloody gauze...yeah, get to work and get out of here. Quick.

ARDENT LIKES THE SITE OF BLOOD!!!!!1111!!1!!1111 HE MUST BE A WEREWOLF!!!!!!!!

(please note that this post is 100% sarcasm and does not reflect my opinion of him in this game)

[Poli]

[Poli]

By the way, MR. Alan T, you also have an item detector in your possession. Because I used it on you.

[Poli]

I just can't wait till my good friend Alan T gets in. I bet he gives me a big hug.

[Poli]

Let's see where this gets me.

Vote Lathum

[path12]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I just can't wait till my good friend Alan T gets in. I bet he gives me a big hug.

No pix plz ktks.

[Poli]

So are pix of the open heart surgery still in play?

[saldana]

votes to this point

render -1- lathum (583),
GE -3- swaggs (586), alant (601), path (621)
swaggs -1- ntndeacon (607)
lathum -1- ardent (641)

not yet voting: render, swaggs, saldana

[Poli]

I thought someone else had voted for lathum. Guess I'll peel that vote back. Path and alan (makes me throw up in my mouth a little) are my most trusted, render right behind them. Hmm.

[path12]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

So are pix of the open heart surgery still in play?

I'm fine with that.

[path12]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I thought someone else had voted for lathum. Guess I'll peel that vote back. Path and alan (makes me throw up in my mouth a little) are my most trusted, render right behind them. Hmm.

I voted for Lathum originally. He sent me a pardon last night, which doesn't clear him but is enough for me to go in another direction today.

[RendeR]

VOTE LATHUM




He's been out for me from the get go and no matter what evidence comes up he plays it off as some wolf-ish stunt to gain favor. Obviously I've gained SO much favor as I've been #2 in the voting every night so far. I think he's just using me to avert suspicion from himself.

[saldana]

updated to take render and my vote into consideration

i have to board soon, but should be landing in time for the deadline in case anything earth shattering comes up...i felt pretty sure about render yesterday, partly because i trust Ardent, so i switched off when he did...today, i will likely be staying put.

render -1- lathum (583), saldana (649)
GE -3- swaggs (586), alant (601), path (621)
swaggs -1- ntndeacon (607)
lathum -1- ardent (641), render (648)

not yet voting: GE

vote render

[path12]

Originally Posted by RendeR

He's been out for me from the get go and no matter what evidence comes up he plays it off as some wolf-ish stunt to gain favor.

I don't want to nitpick, but what evidence has come up to clear you?

I'm asking as someone who leans toward you being good.