2008 NFL Draft Thread-Jake Long Goes #1

[JetsIn06]

hmm..bears go QB possibly?

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by Cringer

Too bad Jas_lov isn't here posting, it would crack me up seeing him freak out over a WR being taken by the Packers. If he would freak out over it that is, I am just guessing.

I'm not going to criticize the pick. I don't know too much about the guy and I trust Ted Thompson's judgement. When he took over, the team was 4-12. Last year they were 13-3 and a lot of his draft picks, signings, and trades were key contributors. Ryan Grant, Donald Lee, Greg Jennings, James Jones, A.J. Hawk, Charles Woodson, and the list goes on. People here praise and criticize picks based on what they read on the internet so what they say is pretty much irrelevant.

[Pyser]

didnt minn just sign a safety to a huge deal?

[stevew]

Andy Reid's kid just traded the Eagles 2nd rounder for a Kilo of crack cocaine.

[Swaggs]

I think Brian Brohm must be a coke addict or wifebeater or something.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by stevew

Andy Reid's kid just traded the Eagles 2nd rounder for a Kilo of crack cocaine.

That's one way to when back your child's love.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Did the Rams realize that DeSean Jackson wasn't drafted in the first round?

No, they are a bunch of dumb shits over there.

Who the F is Donnie Avery anyway?

Oh yeah here is a quite from Linehan.

“This guy is electric,” Scott Linehan said. “He can really play.”

I guess we'll see. We still need a ton of defensive help....

[st.cronin]

If the Bears don't draft Brian Brohm, we'll never see a senior QB in college ever again. They'll all declare for the draft.

[JetsIn06]

Wow.

[MizzouRah]

It does look like Mr. Avery had one hell of a senior year though...

[DeToxRox]

Okay. Millen. You love dealing picks. This is the time to trade down again if you won't take Connor, Groves, Rice, Charles or Campbell.

[Jas_lov]

Originally Posted by Arles

They did make it to the NFC championship game and have like $25 million of cap space and no FA losses this offseason (outside of cutting Bubba). You'd be hard pressed to find a team better setup for a 3-4 year run than GB is right now (talent, cap space, picks, pot FAs).

I agree. That argument about playing in the NFC North is stupid. It's like saying that the Patriots play in the AFC East with the pathetic Jets, Bills, and Dolphins so let's give the Patriots front office no credit for building an 16-0 AFC Champion team. Ted Thompson has built most of the current team into what it is.

[st.cronin]

Da Bears.

[stevew]

This is absurd for Brohm not to go yet. Do the FOF.....draft him now, trade him in 2 years for 3 #1s and 2 #2's.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Espn is really struggling with the new format.

my wife pointed out the same thing so you know it must be bad

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Arles

They did make it to the NFC championship game and have like $25 million of cap space and no FA losses this offseason (outside of cutting Bubba). You'd be hard pressed to find a team better setup for a 3-4 year run than GB is right now (talent, cap space, picks, pot FAs).

I would disagree with the talent part. They have a pretty good defensive nucleus, but their offense is full of question marks.

I like the Pack, but they just lost one of the best all-time players. If they were my team, I'd be excited to see what the offense looks like w/o the player that has carried it for so long, but I think they are far from a playoff lock next season. And, if Rodgers doesn't turn out well, they could be a mess for a few years.

Fortunately for you guys, it doesn't look like the Bears or Bucs are interested in upgrading their QB situations, so the road is not too hard right now.

[st.cronin]

Looks like the Andy Reids might get Limas Sweed, which would be totally unfair.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I'm not going to criticize the pick. I don't know too much about the guy and I trust Ted Thompson's judgement. When he took over, the team was 4-12. Last year they were 13-3 and a lot of his draft picks, signings, and trades were key contributors. Ryan Grant, Donald Lee, Greg Jennings, James Jones, A.J. Hawk, Charles Woodson, and the list goes on. People here praise and criticize picks based on what they read on the internet so what they say is pretty much irrelevant.

A somewhat unexpected (no offense) calm, level-headed answer.

What have you done with the real Jas_lov?

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Lathum

my wife pointed out the same thing so you know it must be bad

They are still managing to get about 4-minutes worth of commercials for ever 10-minutes of coverage.

[DeToxRox]

Well, I can't be mad about Dizon. I am shocked they didn't go Connor though.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by stevew

This is absurd for Brohm not to go yet. Do the FOF.....draft him now, trade him in 2 years for 3 #1s and 2 #2's.

Seriously. The one knock on him a year ago was that he couldn't stay healthy. So, his senior he actually stays healthy, and completely falls off the map.

[stevew]

I half expect someone like the Patriots, Colts, Steelers or Cowboys to take Brohm, and laugh all the way to the bank when someone wants to trade for him in a year or two.

[Cringer]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I would disagree with the talent part. They have a pretty good defensive nucleus, but their offense is full of question marks.

I like the Pack, but they just lost one of the best all-time players. If they were my team, I'd be excited to see what the offense looks like w/o the player that has carried it for so long, but I think they are far from a playoff lock next season. And, if Rodgers doesn't turn out well, they could be a mess for a few years.

Fortunately for you guys, it doesn't look like the Bears or Bucs are interested in upgrading their QB situations, so the road is not too hard right now.

Where are the question marks? The offensive line is not bad. Not great but young in the middle and they improved a good amount last year. No need to go out for a guy to lock in as a starter. The WRs are pretty solid IMO. A backup TE is needed, but no need to push a panic button on that. The running backs? I know the internets like to say the Packers need a RB, but I don't see it. Grant is the guy for now and I am happy with that. Jackson started out rough but got stornger at the end of the season and is a decent backup RB. There is also Morency who is a decent backup.

Back up QB is the biggest hole right now, and there is time to fill that. A rookie doesn't help in that roll at all really. Rodgers is the guy starting. With the good cast around him then he should be the best QB in the division by the end of the season.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I would disagree with the talent part. They have a pretty good defensive nucleus, but their offense is full of question marks.

Their line was solid last year (esp tackles and center), Grant did well, Donald Lee beat out Bubba and they are stocked at WR with Driver, Jennings and co. Rodgers is a question mark, but he has talent, has a solid OL and good WRs. If he's any good, we'll see it with this setup.

I like the Pack, but they just lost one of the best all-time players. If they were my team, I'd be excited to see what the offense looks like w/o the player that has carried it for so long, but I think they are far from a playoff lock next season. And, if Rodgers doesn't turn out well, they could be a mess for a few years.

Rodgers is key, but we will probably take another QB today and sign a vet backup. This team is setup to grind it out, win with defense, ST and a solid running game. Rodgers doesnt have to do a ton to win the division.

Fortunately for you guys, it doesn't look like the Bears or Bucs are interested in upgrading their QB situations, so the road is not too hard right now.

Throw in the Vikes and Lions as well

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by stevew

I half expect someone like the Patriots, Colts, Steelers or Cowboys to take Brohm, and laugh all the way to the bank when someone wants to trade for him in a year or two.

The Colts do need a backup. Sorgi is not NFL-caliber.

[Noop]

I am hoping the Dolphins pick a QB to build around that is young. Brian Brohm please Parcells...

[st.cronin]

I have never heard of Jordon Dizon. Who is he? And why not: Quentin Groves, Dan Connor, Xavier Adibi.

[Thomkal]

holy crap didn't think WR Jerome Simpson would go in the Second Round. Myrtle Beach is gonna be buzzing tomorrow.

[Arles]

Think Philly trades down here?

[st.cronin]

The gap between the smart teams and the dumb teams is really evident now.

[Lathum]

Keyshawn is such an ass

[Eaglesfan27]

YES! DeSean Jackson would be a welcome addition in Philadelphia.

Trevor Laws should be a solid player as well.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Cringer

Where are the question marks? The offensive line is not bad. Not great but young in the middle and they improved a good amount last year. No need to go out for a guy to lock in as a starter. The WRs are pretty solid IMO. A backup TE is needed, but no need to push a panic button on that. The running backs? I know the internets like to say the Packers need a RB, but I don't see it. Grant is the guy for now and I am happy with that. Jackson started out rough but got stornger at the end of the season and is a decent backup RB. There is also Morency who is a decent backup.

Back up QB is the biggest hole right now, and there is time to fill that. A rookie doesn't help in that roll at all really. Rodgers is the guy starting. With the good cast around him then he should be the best QB in the division by the end of the season.

The production from the quarterback position is the huge question mark. The leadership void would be up there, as well.

I would say running back is a pretty big question mark. Grant looked real good for 3/4 of a season, but defenses will respect the running game a lot more without Favre around. Also, how will he hold up over a full season? Depth would be a big concern for me.

I would also worry about the receivers. Both starters played well with Favre last year, but how will they do with Rodgers? Also, Driver is 33-years old.

[stevew]

Jackson really fell quite a bit. The eagles could have easily have taken him a round earlier, and felt okay about it.

[st.cronin]

2 solid value picks for Philly there.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Arles

Their line was solid last year (esp tackles and center), Grant did well, Donald Lee beat out Bubba and they are stocked at WR with Driver, Jennings and co. Rodgers is a question mark, but he has talent, has a solid OL and good WRs. If he's any good, we'll see it with this setup.


Rodgers is key, but we will probably take another QB today and sign a vet backup. This team is setup to grind it out, win with defense, ST and a solid running game. Rodgers doesnt have to do a ton to win the division.


Throw in the Vikes and Lions as well

My bad... I meant Vikes.

I think the Lions are, at least, stable at QB right now.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by stevew

Jackson really fell quite a bit. The eagles could have easily have taken him a round earlier, and felt okay about it.

Without a doubt. He'll be their immediate #3 receiver and #1 punt returner. I'm very happy with the draft, so far.

[kcchief19]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

The gap between the smart teams and the dumb teams is really evident now.

Not sure about that because right now the Chiefs draft day looks great ... I can't fathom what disaster will strike Dorsey, Albert and Flowers because these look like good players, even if I don't think you can take a guy who played two games in college at tackle and plug him in there as a rookie starter in the NFL.

[Arles]

Jeez, Arizona took a 6-8, 300 pound pass rusher. He had 36" arms and 9.4 " hands. I don't know if he can play, but he's going to be an imposing son-bitch coming off the end.

[Thomkal]

*sigh* really thought the Cards would go with Ray Rice there

[st.cronin]

Why did the Redskins take Fred Davis?

[DeToxRox]

Honestly, Jordan Dizon was a good pick imo for the Lions. He's an overachiever in the vain of Zach Thomas. 176 tackles last year, he wraps up well. I am not upset.

[Swaggs]

Crap...

[INDalltheway]

I'm hoping the Colts can get Brohm.. Sorgi is pretty much terrible but has been around for a while now. I trust whatever route Bill Polian goes because he is one of the best.

[kcchief19]

Allow me to be a Missouri Tiger homer for two seconds and say these nimrods taking TEs when they could get Martin Rucker in the third round are going to feel stupid.

[stevew]

fucking skins

They seem to be getting smarter. I wish Kelly fell 2 more spots.

[Logan]

Guys, Brian Brohm is awful under pressure. Awful, awful, awful. He has happy feet but no mobility. I watched a ton of Louisville games over the past couple years, and the difference between when he has time versus when there's even a hint of pressure is probably the worst I've ever seen from a supposed "star" QB. He's dropped since last year because his sample size of being awful under pressure has increased. He won't be able to handle an NFL pass rush. I don't make many predictions, but I'm damn confident in this one.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Logan

Guys, Brian Brohm is awful under pressure. Awful, awful, awful. He has happy feet but no mobility. I watched a ton of Louisville games over the past couple years, and the difference between when he has time versus when there's even a hint of pressure is probably the worst I've ever seen from a supposed "star" QB. He's dropped since last year because his sample size of being awful under pressure has increased. He won't be able to handle an NFL pass rush. I don't make many predictions, but I'm damn confident in this one.

Rutgers bias

[Swaggs]

Damn...

Steelers just got snaked for the top two on their board (Groves and Kelly).

[stevew]

fucking jaguars just scooped us.