Werewolf CXL - The Dark Knight Returns - GAME OVER - Page 13

CrimsonFox · 10-18-2011, 11:21 PM

(don't think we'd wanna)

Commo_Soldier · 10-18-2011, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

I am out for the night. Don't do anything I wouldn't do.

So we can lie away then

JK, have a good night of fearless GM, or whatever you're called.

J23 · 10-18-2011, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Total posts:

SnD : 3
J23 : 3
Daddy : 2
Tyrith : 1

I was busy at work today and didn't feel like discussing the merits of Coldplay, and then went out for the evening. The fact that post count is used for any kind of vote analysis is pretty laughable with how many useless posts a number of people throw out there. While I agree that talking in the thread obviously helps people get a "read" on you, I don't think Abe's playlist has given us any deep insight into his motivations this game.

CrimsonFox · 10-18-2011, 11:57 PM

may and j23, are you SURE you aren't still evil? LIke have some leftover evil in you?

CrimsonFox · 10-18-2011, 11:57 PM

arg...MAU I mean.

The Jackal · 10-19-2011, 12:14 AM

J I was just trying to suggest who might not have been checking in. There was obviously a lot of BS talk today which I alluded to shortly after including myself. UTR would be a smart strategy for at least a couple bad guys this game though. We've done some UTR lynching lately but I think most of the voting is trending towards the talkative. Plus the more you make bad guys talk (not insinuating anyone on that list was bad) the more chances they have to slip up.

Sucks about hoops, we never got to see him in red tights

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 12:15 AM

Well there's always you, Jackal.

The Jackal · 10-19-2011, 12:16 AM

But in general more posting is better. Very hard to read UTR people that slip by, even harder with less useful pointed vote histories.

But I'm sure people will start chiming in with non-coldplay related news tmw. At least we know there should only be one NK max next phase and there have been some seer scans.

The Jackal · 10-19-2011, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Well there's always you, Jackal.

My vote looks pretty bad, I can't begrudge some "hairy eyeballs" as autumn would say

The Jackal · 10-19-2011, 12:17 AM

Bedtime here

ntndeacon · 10-19-2011, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

so ntndeacon, congratulations! You've just made it to day 2! What are you gonna do now????

Lay it on us, bud. Let's hear lots of analysis, comments, and observations!

I am going to Metropolis !!! That is like Disney right?

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

My vote looks pretty bad, I can't begrudge some "hairy eyeballs" as autumn would say

I meant you could wear the red tights.

J23 · 10-19-2011, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

J I was just trying to suggest who might not have been checking in. There was obviously a lot of BS talk today which I alluded to shortly after including myself. UTR would be a smart strategy for at least a couple bad guys this game though. We've done some UTR lynching lately but I think most of the voting is trending towards the talkative. Plus the more you make bad guys talk (not insinuating anyone on that list was bad) the more chances they have to slip up.

Sucks about hoops, we never got to see him in red tights

I'd agree that conversation actually about the game is helpful. More than half of what was posted today just makes it harder to go back and find the information about the game if the need arises. Perhaps it's just that I don't know the Coldplay-2face connection that everyone else seems to know.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 12:34 AM

Okay fair enough j23. No more coldplay. What jumps out at you? anything? Where are your thoughts?

Commo_Soldier · 10-19-2011, 12:54 AM

Well after looking at things I just don't get a good vibe from CF. Maybe it is the all caps two face post, or the Hoops starting the run on him and hoops subsequent lynch, or his asking for me to vote for him and his voting for himself. Just strange behavior.

Vote CrimsonFox

Commo_Soldier · 10-19-2011, 12:56 AM

Dola, I guess there was no flare for you Crimson, completely forgot about your request until right after I posted.

Commo_Soldier · 10-19-2011, 01:02 AM

Tripe Dola, if there is some compelling reason to move I will move, but I feel fairly comfortable with this vote right now. Also looking into things more the Bug and Saldana votes don't look so bad right now unless we find out Zinto two face, which is possible, but not sure if I feel as confident that is the case. I will be on my phone all day tomorrow and have my NBDA meeting in the evening so I will post the voting tallies when I get home, probably just after the night kill. I will change vote and respond if I see something that I feel is intriguing.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Dola, I guess there was no flare for you Crimson, completely forgot about your request until right after I posted.

sad. I need 37 pieces of flare to be satisfied.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 01:18 AM

hmmm I really hope the seer didn't waste a scan on hoops. Perhaps we should not be giving Twoface any more of these bright ideas.

Narcizo · 10-19-2011, 02:34 AM

Well that was a pretty sucky bunch of results then. I guess we should be happy there was no conversion. I guess Two-Face picked up on Danny's comment about Hoops being off (which was probably true) and took it to mean he might be a deranged citizen. Makes me think that there probably weren't any overt signals sent to Two-Face.

Narcizo · 10-19-2011, 02:35 AM

So Crimson - care to take us through what exactly you're hoping for with the capital letters business? I'm struggling to see any rhythm or reason to it myself.

Narcizo · 10-19-2011, 02:38 AM

I honestly doubt much can be read into voting record. Unless Two-Face was on the block at some stage there's not much you can say about it. Except the deranged will be voting for people who don't seem to be deranged, obviously (so you won't see them voting Crimson bada-boom-tishhhh).

Narcizo · 10-19-2011, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

If I were a Distubred Citizen, I would consider making a mid day vote on Two face and then unvoting a short time later, as a hint.

We might want to look at votes and unvotes after the first few votes in the morning and before maybe 30 minutes left to deadline.

I've been thinking and rethinking about you making this point and I've concluded that it probably means you're a villager.

If you're Two-Face then you could be signalling your followers to do what you describe but it's pretty clear that any vote/unvote on you is going to be ultra-suspicious.

I think you can make a case for you being Deranged and wanting to warn other Deranged people off of doing this.

Likliest is that you're a villager.

Narcizo · 10-19-2011, 04:32 AM

I wondering if the baddies vote Hoops or not. It seems likely that some people might think that Hoops was acting strange and connect that with him being a baddy so they'd want to steer clear of him. Then again if he's a villager then it's a golden opportunity to take out a good villager. If I were a baddy (and I'd thought things through properly) I think I wouldn't vote him and hope that 2-Face kills/converts him. But I'm not sure I'd think of that at the time. Normally I'd be suspicious of Hoops day one voters but I'm not sure that holds up in these circumstances.

saldana · 10-19-2011, 05:54 AM

i didnt see anything strange about hoops from yesterday. i think it is much more likely that two face simply eliminated a dangerous villager

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 07:03 AM

Right now I see Lathum as a good bet for Two face

Corrupt people: mckerney, mauboy, and dzilla, possibly Danny

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 07:12 AM

1st subset - people who always vote hoops first: Lathum, Saldana, , possibly sndvls (although I don't know him that well), Danny (although he varies, Chief Rum

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Damn it

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzilla77

Well that sucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yeah, epic fail Tyrith.

Second subset - people that were verbally upset by the lynch results and bothered to type it in.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 07:16 AM

oh yeah add Tyrith to the 1st subset

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

this should say:

hiding in plain sight to get two face to night kill/convert you is a ballsy move, but not an out of the question one.

like this post a lot and feel better about her being a villager because of it. Only one with a really valid reason spelled out for voting for me. Then again a longtime player could easily pull an autumn-like good excuse as a wolf to do anything. Still, giving her a pass another day.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

oh yeah add Tyrith to the 1st subset

in fact unsure of my lathum as twoface theory. Could be Lathum or Tyrith. Although I really like Tyrith's posts today. Really helpful. Then again he was one of the only ones. Maybe TOO helpful

Danny · 10-19-2011, 07:32 AM

Hoops is an interesting kill. I have to imagine two face was going for someone they thought might be a corrupted citizen. This likely means that A. No one made it obvious they were a corrupted citizen an 2. I'd guess that two face wasn't even involved in the vote at all (meaning Zinto and Crimson are not two face.

Danny · 10-19-2011, 07:33 AM

Saldana is a villager I am pretty sure.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 07:35 AM

Third subest - weird / driveby voters. I didn't include any of Danny's thousands of votes because who knows what they could mean. Something seemed weird about him today. I mean weirder than the normal weird.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dzilla77

Won't be around much til later but I will throw out a random vote

Vote Zinto

he came back tho after the vote was it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Just getting a vote out there early, I should be around most of the day

VOTE MAUBOY1

he DID post again a little later then disappeared.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

Vote Narcizo

For having a hand in that ridiculous day of reveals and village-death last game.

1 of his, what was it 4 posts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Kill me now if that is the case. And Sal and I live 3,000 miles away, so a picture may be difficult

also,

Vote Zinto
Coldpaly sucks

Also very little posting and a good generic reason.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauboy1

vote hoopsguy

superdriverby vote. Was a little active earlier but really short in his replies and then no reply after this, nor reasoning for suddening following me and Zinto.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney

Unvote DaddyTorgo
Vote CrimsonFox

A signal ? countersignal? What was this? Surely you would think there would be more accusations following this vote. Some response. Some "Aha, I see." but nothing...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Not going to have a strong player like hoops out on Day One if I can help it.

And apologies to CF and Zinto--but they'll probably acknowledge hoops is a WW God of playing, and won't mind (too much) that I choose to try to save him over them.

VOTE ZINTO

This is normal Chief shpiel. Usually it's Chief voting for a villager shpiel. I still don't think I've ever seen Chief as a wolf before (or for that matter vote for one

)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

VOTE ZINTO

Zzzzzzzzzzzooooom

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

ok, ties dont help

unvote narcizo
vote abe

They don't do they...

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

i would much rather go crimson than abe, to be honest

Unless you trying to create one...which he helps do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Vote - Abe

Hmmm...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

[b]unvote Abe

Vote CF

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..... conveniently at 7:01.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Saldana is a villager I am pretty sure.

I do indeed get that vibe.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Danny unvotes Hoops (1) 319
CrimsonFox unvotes ChiefRum (0) 359
Jackal unvotes CrimsonFox (1) 389
McKerney unvotes DaddyTorgo (0) 403
MrBug unvotes CrimsonFox (2) 423
Tyrith unvotes AbeSargent (2) 429
Tyrith unvotes CrimsonFox (2) 430

Here our unvotes above, up to 6:30 p.m. (admittedly, an arbitrary cutoff time).

Our potential Disturbed Citizen-Two Face pairs are:

Danny-Hoops
CF-Chief
Jackal-CF
Mckerney-DT
Bug-CF
Tyrith-CF

I removed the ntn-Autumn pair, of course, and the Tyrith-Abe pair, since Abe is not Two Face. I am pretty comfortable saying I am not Two Face, so you can take out the CF-Chief pairing too.

I find it pretty interesting that CF was voted and unvoted three times during this period, by three different players (Jackal, Bug, Tyrith).

Like this methodology a lot and this post.
I don't totally agree with its usefullness as yes chief you thought of it, but that doesn't mean anyone else did. And if you are removing yourself, then you can also remove me and look at the people that unvoted me.

We'll call them subset 4 - Bug, Tyrith, Jackal.

Now let's see, what two names here have come up in multiple subsets?

dzilla77 · 10-19-2011, 07:54 AM

I actually came back before the vote and posted several times. I did not see any reason to move my vote, without any strong feelings for anyone at the time.

Will be looking in throughout the day and may get a post or two in around lunch, but my activity will be sparse until evening.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 08:01 AM

Yeah I really couldn't remember. Just remembered little short votes here and there with little explanation. Then again it's day 1

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 08:05 AM

hoopsguy · 10-19-2011, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Please stop causing problems

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Please stop causing problems

What? What am I doing?

All i'm doing is listening to the BEST MUSIC EVER and saying how the wolves are are yellow for not coming out and fighting in the open that's all.

hoopsguy · 10-19-2011, 08:53 AM

It is an old-school FOFC phrase, dating back to jbmagic ... before your time, based on the 12/2009 join date. My bad, was the equivalent of making a reference to Slapshot around my nephew who is in high school. Have to know your audience when making wisecracks

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 08:56 AM

I know it was a wisecrack and was wisecracking back.

ntndeacon · 10-19-2011, 09:04 AM

Already more evaluation than normal on day 2. normslly my day 2 vote is another cipher, but looking at the bits of evaluation... (esp. Chief's) it looks like Cf's name should be high in the thought processes of today. Thus...
Vote CrimsonFox

Danny · 10-19-2011, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Danny unvotes Hoops (1) 319
CrimsonFox unvotes ChiefRum (0) 359
Jackal unvotes CrimsonFox (1) 389
McKerney unvotes DaddyTorgo (0) 403
MrBug unvotes CrimsonFox (2) 423
Tyrith unvotes AbeSargent (2) 429
Tyrith unvotes CrimsonFox (2) 430

Here our unvotes above, up to 6:30 p.m. (admittedly, an arbitrary cutoff time).

Our potential Disturbed Citizen-Two Face pairs are:

Danny-Hoops
CF-Chief
Jackal-CF
Mckerney-DT
Bug-CF
Tyrith-CF

I removed the ntn-Autumn pair, of course, and the Tyrith-Abe pair, since Abe is not Two Face. I am pretty comfortable saying I am not Two Face, so you can take out the CF-Chief pairing too.

I find it pretty interesting that CF was voted and unvoted three times during this period, by three different players (Jackal, Bug, Tyrith).

CrimsonFox is in an awful lot of those combinations. He certainly is not a bad vote today.

CrimsonFox · 10-19-2011, 09:34 AM

I can't hear you over the Coldplay.

The Jackal · 10-19-2011, 09:45 AM

Really I should have left my crazy vote/unvote for D1 of this game, might've told us more. That's why I voted CF in the first place, just wanted to see what happened, but when nobody did anything I moved to Abe who had been vibing a bit off. But that was a poor read on my part.

The Jackal · 10-19-2011, 09:47 AM

I agree finding out about CF might clear a little up, but want to look over the unvoting also.

Narcizo · 10-19-2011, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

in fact unsure of my lathum as twoface theory. Could be Lathum or Tyrith. Although I really like Tyrith's posts today. Really helpful. Then again he was one of the only ones. Maybe TOO helpful

So you've narrowed the possible Two-Faces down to two candidates. Good work! Lets lynch one today and the other tomorrow and then the game will be over.

Narcizo · 10-19-2011, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Hoops is an interesting kill. I have to imagine two face was going for someone they thought might be a corrupted citizen. This likely means that A. No one made it obvious they were a corrupted citizen an 2. I'd guess that two face wasn't even involved in the vote at all (meaning Zinto and Crimson are not two face.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

CrimsonFox is in an awful lot of those combinations. He certainly is not a bad vote today.

But Crimson keeps cropping up on the Two-Face side of Chief's unvote patterns, so you're kind of contradicting yourself there.

I'm willing to bet that the whole unvote thing is a blind alley. I'm also doubtful about how hard we should be chasing Two-Face rather than potential convertees. Seems like we have a much better chance of getting a deranged citizen and when we do we can try to follow a trail back to Two-Face. Trying to shoot straight for Two-Face is less likely to work but more likely to give Two-Face an idea of who the converted people are.

10-19-2011, 12:54 AM	#615
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	Well after looking at things I just don't get a good vibe from CF. Maybe it is the all caps two face post, or the Hoops starting the run on him and hoops subsequent lynch, or his asking for me to vote for him and his voting for himself. Just strange behavior. Vote CrimsonFox __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-19-2011, 12:56 AM	#616
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	Dola, I guess there was no flare for you Crimson, completely forgot about your request until right after I posted. __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-19-2011, 01:02 AM	#617
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	Tripe Dola, if there is some compelling reason to move I will move, but I feel fairly comfortable with this vote right now. Also looking into things more the Bug and Saldana votes don't look so bad right now unless we find out Zinto two face, which is possible, but not sure if I feel as confident that is the case. I will be on my phone all day tomorrow and have my NBDA meeting in the evening so I will post the voting tallies when I get home, probably just after the night kill. I will change vote and respond if I see something that I feel is intriguing. __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-18-2011, 11:21 PM	#601
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	(don't think we'd wanna)

10-18-2011, 11:57 PM	#604
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	may and j23, are you SURE you aren't still evil? LIke have some leftover evil in you?

10-18-2011, 11:57 PM	#605
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	arg...MAU I mean.

10-19-2011, 12:14 AM	#606
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	J I was just trying to suggest who might not have been checking in. There was obviously a lot of BS talk today which I alluded to shortly after including myself. UTR would be a smart strategy for at least a couple bad guys this game though. We've done some UTR lynching lately but I think most of the voting is trending towards the talkative. Plus the more you make bad guys talk (not insinuating anyone on that list was bad) the more chances they have to slip up. Sucks about hoops, we never got to see him in red tights

10-19-2011, 12:15 AM	#607
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Well there's always you, Jackal.

10-19-2011, 12:16 AM	#608
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	But in general more posting is better. Very hard to read UTR people that slip by, even harder with less useful pointed vote histories. But I'm sure people will start chiming in with non-coldplay related news tmw. At least we know there should only be one NK max next phase and there have been some seer scans.

10-19-2011, 12:17 AM	#610
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Bedtime here

10-19-2011, 12:34 AM	#614
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Okay fair enough j23. No more coldplay. What jumps out at you? anything? Where are your thoughts?

10-19-2011, 01:18 AM	#619
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	hmmm I really hope the seer didn't waste a scan on hoops. Perhaps we should not be giving Twoface any more of these bright ideas.

10-19-2011, 02:34 AM	#620
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	Well that was a pretty sucky bunch of results then. I guess we should be happy there was no conversion. I guess Two-Face picked up on Danny's comment about Hoops being off (which was probably true) and took it to mean he might be a deranged citizen. Makes me think that there probably weren't any overt signals sent to Two-Face.

10-19-2011, 02:35 AM	#621
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	So Crimson - care to take us through what exactly you're hoping for with the capital letters business? I'm struggling to see any rhythm or reason to it myself.

10-19-2011, 02:38 AM	#622
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I honestly doubt much can be read into voting record. Unless Two-Face was on the block at some stage there's not much you can say about it. Except the deranged will be voting for people who don't seem to be deranged, obviously (so you won't see them voting Crimson bada-boom-tishhhh).

10-19-2011, 04:32 AM	#624
Narcizo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006	I wondering if the baddies vote Hoops or not. It seems likely that some people might think that Hoops was acting strange and connect that with him being a baddy so they'd want to steer clear of him. Then again if he's a villager then it's a golden opportunity to take out a good villager. If I were a baddy (and I'd thought things through properly) I think I wouldn't vote him and hope that 2-Face kills/converts him. But I'm not sure I'd think of that at the time. Normally I'd be suspicious of Hoops day one voters but I'm not sure that holds up in these circumstances.

10-19-2011, 05:54 AM	#625
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i didnt see anything strange about hoops from yesterday. i think it is much more likely that two face simply eliminated a dangerous villager

10-19-2011, 07:03 AM	#626
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Right now I see Lathum as a good bet for Two face Corrupt people: mckerney, mauboy, and dzilla, possibly Danny

10-19-2011, 07:12 AM	#627
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	1st subset - people who always vote hoops first: Lathum, Saldana, , possibly sndvls (although I don't know him that well), Danny (although he varies, Chief Rum

10-19-2011, 07:16 AM	#629
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	oh yeah add Tyrith to the 1st subset

10-19-2011, 07:32 AM	#632
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Hoops is an interesting kill. I have to imagine two face was going for someone they thought might be a corrupted citizen. This likely means that A. No one made it obvious they were a corrupted citizen an 2. I'd guess that two face wasn't even involved in the vote at all (meaning Zinto and Crimson are not two face.

10-19-2011, 07:33 AM	#633
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Saldana is a villager I am pretty sure.

10-19-2011, 07:54 AM	#637
dzilla77 High School Varsity Join Date: May 2011	I actually came back before the vote and posted several times. I did not see any reason to move my vote, without any strong feelings for anyone at the time. Will be looking in throughout the day and may get a post or two in around lunch, but my activity will be sparse until evening.

10-19-2011, 08:01 AM	#638
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Yeah I really couldn't remember. Just remembered little short votes here and there with little explanation. Then again it's day 1

10-19-2011, 08:05 AM	#639
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009

10-19-2011, 08:53 AM	#642
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	It is an old-school FOFC phrase, dating back to jbmagic ... before your time, based on the 12/2009 join date. My bad, was the equivalent of making a reference to Slapshot around my nephew who is in high school. Have to know your audience when making wisecracks

10-19-2011, 08:56 AM	#643
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I know it was a wisecrack and was wisecracking back.

10-19-2011, 09:04 AM	#644
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Already more evaluation than normal on day 2. normslly my day 2 vote is another cipher, but looking at the bits of evaluation... (esp. Chief's) it looks like Cf's name should be high in the thought processes of today. Thus... Vote CrimsonFox

10-19-2011, 09:34 AM	#646
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I can't hear you over the Coldplay.

10-19-2011, 09:45 AM	#647
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Really I should have left my crazy vote/unvote for D1 of this game, might've told us more. That's why I voted CF in the first place, just wanted to see what happened, but when nobody did anything I moved to Abe who had been vibing a bit off. But that was a poor read on my part.

10-19-2011, 09:47 AM	#648
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I agree finding out about CF might clear a little up, but want to look over the unvoting also.

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