WW LXVII - Heroes (GAME OVER! HEROES WIN!)

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by Alan T

My bet is none of the three are a wolf.

would be an easy bet for you if you are a wolf

[jeheinz72]

Jackal (7): hoopsguy (489), nfg22 (498), Thomkal (520), Barkeep (529), Neon Chaos (553), Mr. Wednesday (565), Greyroofoo (597)

Neon Chaos (5): mauboy1 (471), RendeR (499), path12 (511), Daddy Torgo (530), Jackal (585)

Ardent (4): St. Cronin (328), SnDvls (487), Alan T (512), Oliegirl (518)

Thomkal (3): claphamsa (318), Chief Rum (434), Lathum (474)

No Lynch (3): Narcizo (445), Ardent (452), Schmidty (488)

[st.cronin]

Alan, are you in favor of no lynch?

[The Jackal]

I'm around guys, don't worry if you see me off the site. I am at work, so I am working on different projects while keeping up with this thread.

There's absolutely no reason to lynch me. Thomkal and Neon are the only people who have legitimate votes because they were made out of self preservation. If I am lynched, I suggest you look strongly at the other people who voted for me.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

would be an easy bet for you if you are a wolf

Yep, if i was a wolf, it would be really easy to know who was a wolf.

That wasn't quite the approach I was taking. I think it seemed pretty obvious to me that Thomkal/Pass not only was good but also had a role that we don't want to lose. The Jackal seems to be a victim of a setup pretty similar to what I felt was happening to me last night.

Neon is the only wildcard out of the bunch, and my gut feeling is that Ardent is bad and people pushed Neon up there to save Ardent, thus making neon likely good.

So I might be wrong, but I'll still bet that all three are good.

[hoopsguy]

FWIW, I probably won't be around much this afternoon - work craziness is continuing to make 1PM deadlines tough for me.

Hope that the lynch goes the right way and that we have some good info for Day 3.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Alan, are you in favor of no lynch?

I think all of the absolutes that people are using in saying "A Day 2 no lynch is bad" isn't really accurate. We had a game last year where two straight days of no lynches not only ended up being real good for us but helped us win the game. It was a game similar to this where everyone had roles and alot of information was out there.

I'm not as convinced that this game is as open to the information being forthcoming, but just based on some reactions of various players.. I think there is -SOME- information out there, just not available to the entire group as of yet.

I'm not pushing for a no lynch today, I wanted to see Ardent get lynched today.. but I think saying cut and dry no lynch is bad is inaccurate in some cases.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Yep, if i was a wolf, it would be really easy to know who was a wolf.

That wasn't quite the approach I was taking. I think it seemed pretty obvious to me that Thomkal/Pass not only was good but also had a role that we don't want to lose. The Jackal seems to be a victim of a setup pretty similar to what I felt was happening to me last night.

Neon is the only wildcard out of the bunch, and my gut feeling is that Ardent is bad and people pushed Neon up there to save Ardent, thus making neon likely good.

So I might be wrong, but I'll still bet that all three are good.

You're absolutely right. Would you be up for switching to no lynch? With me, you, and neon doing it, it'd at least give me a chance to live.

[The Jackal]

Whats the case against Ardent? I could certainly switch to him.

[Thomkal]

sorry I've been away from the computer. I cannot support a move to no lynch despite who it might save, myself included because I strongly believe we need some information from this lynch. I could move to Ardent I suppose if there's enough votes, but not a no lynch

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

You're absolutely right. Would you be up for switching to no lynch? With me, you, and neon doing it, it'd at least give me a chance to live.

I'm not willing to put my neck on the line to save you in case I am wrong about you. I'm just stating my observation on how the vote went today, which also may or may not be incorrect.

[The Jackal]

Works for me. I'd prefer a person over a no lynch, anyways.

Unvote Neon

Vote Ardent

[Neon_Chaos]

Jackal, I have no idea if you're innocent or not, but we were all put in this predicament by that surge to save ardent. If you move your vote to Ardent, I can move my vote as well and that creates a tie between the two of you... better chances than being outright lynched.

[st.cronin]

The case against ardent:

Claimed to have no NIGHT actions.
Appears to not be able to contribute a whole lot, based on schedule.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I'm not willing to put my neck on the line to save you in case I am wrong about you. I'm just stating my observation on how the vote went today, which also may or may not be incorrect.

don't blame you at all, just checking

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Whats the case against Ardent? I could certainly switch to him.

I don't know that there is much better of a case against Ardent than any of you three. I'm just going off of hunches right now. Like anything else I might be entirely wrong, but my gut is just telling me that Ardent might be bad because of how he acted in regards to his vote on me previously (without a reason), and then seeing how certain other players I'm suspicious of reacted in regards to him once he got in the middle of the heat.

I've been wrong far more than I've been right on early game hunches like this though.. so you're probably better off just not listening to me anyways.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Jackal, I have no idea if you're innocent or not, but we were all put in this predicament by that surge to save ardent. If you move your vote to Ardent, I can move my vote as well and that creates a tie between the two of you... better chances than being outright lynched.

you only have a couple of minutes, go for it

[Neon_Chaos]

Oh. There ya go.

Unvote Jackal
Vote Ardent

[jeheinz72]

Jackal (6): hoopsguy (489), nfg22 (498), Thomkal (520), Barkeep (529), Mr. Wednesday (565), Greyroofoo (597)

Ardent (6): St. Cronin (328), SnDvls (487), Alan T (512), Oliegirl (518), Jackal (612), Neon Chaos (618)


Neon Chaos (4): mauboy1 (471), RendeR (499), path12 (511), Daddy Torgo (530)


Thomkal (3): claphamsa (318), Chief Rum (434), Lathum (474)

No Lynch (3): Narcizo (445), Ardent (452), Schmidty (488)

[jeheinz72]

2 minutes.

[The Jackal]

Want to break the tie, Thomkal?

[jeheinz72]

Deadline.

[jeheinz72]

Here's the votes, off to computate and then write-up

Jackal (6): hoopsguy (489), nfg22 (498), Thomkal (520), Barkeep (529), Mr. Wednesday (565), Greyroofoo (597)

Ardent (6): St. Cronin (328), SnDvls (487), Alan T (512), Oliegirl (518), Jackal (612), Neon Chaos (618)


Neon Chaos (4): mauboy1 (471), RendeR (499), path12 (511), Daddy Torgo (530)


Thomkal (3): claphamsa (318), Chief Rum (434), Lathum (474)

No Lynch (3): Narcizo (445), Ardent (452), Schmidty (488)

[st.cronin]

Well, I guess we find out what happens in a tie!

[Alan T]

I take it deadline is at 12:59:59 in this game?

[Thomkal]

sorry jackal

[The Jackal]

meh, it's alright, hopefully the tiebreaker doesn't get me

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I take it deadline is at 12:59:59 in this game?

Deadline is when I post "Deadline".

Which should always be at the stroke of 1 PM EST.

[Lathum]

you said stroke, huh huh

[SnDvls]

since it's deadline I'm going to get this out now as the "night" actions are past due.

I am Ando....I can watch people, night 1 I watched my day 1 vote mauboy...he did nothing but grab a bite to eat. Tonight I am watching ardent if he isn't lynched

[Thomkal]

if the tiebreaker is earliest vote you are safe Jackal

[SnDvls]

dola - and no I don't know Hiro either

[Thomkal]

interesting, I wouldn't have thought Ando would be in the game. Cool power though.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

if the tiebreaker is earliest vote you are safe Jackal

i don't think heinz would make it that easy

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

interesting, I wouldn't have thought Ando would be in the game. Cool power though.

not really a power per say, but a nice action

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

since it's deadline I'm going to get this out now as the "night" actions are past due.

I am Ando....I can watch people, night 1 I watched my day 1 vote mauboy...he did nothing but grab a bite to eat. Tonight I am watching ardent if he isn't lynched

strange reveal

[The Jackal]

i guess ill say why i thought that was a strange reveal in case i die -

1, you didnt find out anything about mau, but he could still be a wolf and just not have done anything last night, so that piece of information isn't all that useful

2, you now have a bullseye on your back without having given us real info

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

since it's deadline I'm going to get this out now as the "night" actions are past due.

I am Ando....I can watch people, night 1 I watched my day 1 vote mauboy...he did nothing but grab a bite to eat. Tonight I am watching ardent if he isn't lynched

lets hope you aren't duked

[Lathum]

sndvls, why would you vote for ardent then watch him, potentialy wasting your night ability?

[jeheinz72]

The day brings action all over the place. First no one agrees, then this band of supernatural beings sets itself onto a few people. At the last minute, it is tied. Then, special orders are carried out and things are changed:

Ardent (7): St. Cronin (328), SnDvls (487), Alan T (512), Oliegirl (518), Jackal (612), Neon Chaos (618), hoopsguy (N/A)

Jackal (5): nfg22 (498), Thomkal (520), Barkeep (529), Mr. Wednesday (565), Greyroofoo (597)

Neon Chaos (4): mauboy1 (471), RendeR (499), path12 (511), Daddy Torgo (530)

Thomkal (3): claphamsa (318), Chief Rum (434), Lathum (474)

No Lynch (3): Narcizo (445), Ardent (452), Schmidty (488)

Ardent Enthusiast must die today. The group focuses all of their powers upon him and he literally explodes. Falling from the debris you notice an envelope. In it contains a paycheck...from The Company.

Ardent Enthusiast was working for The Company!

Then suddenly all of the bloody mish-mash of what was Ardent Enthusiast just disappears. In death, he went invisible.

Originally Posted by his PM

Claude Rains

Power: You have the power of invisibility. As such, you can never be spied on and you can never be scanned accurately (you’ll always come back as a Hero).

I will process night actions now and post results shortly.

[Lathum]

nice.

[The Jackal]

good lord thank you to whoever did that

and way to have good suspicions, alan

[Alan T]

Whats up with the hoopsguy vote there? Was that part of a tiebreaker, or did someone force his vote or what?

Not that I mind, just curious.

[Lathum]

so someone moved hoops' vote to ardent?

[Neon_Chaos]

Boom. Shakalaka.

Nice job, Jackal.

[Lathum]

just in case I am offed in a few minutes, sndvls play seems really odd. Is he just trying to get info out there in case he is night killed?

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Whats up with the hoopsguy vote there? Was that part of a tiebreaker, or did someone force his vote or what?

Not that I mind, just curious.

No tiebreaker was triggered.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Lathum

just in case I am offed in a few minutes, sndvls play seems really odd. Is he just trying to get info out there in case he is night killed?

that's all well and good but he didn't have any useful info, so what was the point of revealing

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

just in case I am offed in a few minutes, sndvls play seems really odd. Is he just trying to get info out there in case he is night killed?

I don't have too much of a problem with sndvls play. he gave us some information on mauboy (not enough to clear him, but some information at least), I doubt Ando is a high priority for Sylar to hunt down and I'm guessing as the rules state there are some duplicates of powers, so he probably isn't the only one with a similar ability.

The only thing I don't like is by narrowing down who not to go for, you give less targets for Sylar to have to choose from.. but I don't have an issue with the reveal at all.

[path12]

So did hoops have the tiebreak then?