WW LXXXI Highlander game thread ( D5 deadline 8:00 PM EST)

[claphamsa]

Just got called and told ill be in meetings from 9-12 and 2-430 today

[Mustang]

Given that I followed Heinz in Vegas and the kill occurred in Boston, there is at least 1 wolf left.

I initially put in an action to follow Path12 and then changed in to Packerfan at the last minute. Since I already knew that Heinz was a wolf and was trying to set me up, I tried to look for anyone that was pointing me out also in that 24 hour span.

[DaddyTorgo]

<> is BK okay? Do we know for a fact he's alive and well?

[PackerFanatic]

He has been around, lurking and posting in other threads, so I imagine he is okay.

[Lathum]

deadline

[Lathum]

you await to get on your plane and see a news story about a prominant NYC news reported found brutaly murdered and decapitated.

Her name was Branda Wyatt. Mustang is dead.

[Lathum]

You arrive in your city and again see a vision, this time it is the eifel tower, not the one in Paris, the one in Las Vegas. PAckerfanatic is delivering blow after blow at Barkeep, relentlessly attacking him. With little effort he knocks Barkeep to his knees and in one swift motion lobs his head off.

Packer fanatic is filled with lighting and seems to grow powerfull.

[Lathum]

all PM's are out.

day 5 deadline 8:00 PM EST

[PackerFanatic]

It's between Path, NTN, and Gramm. Either 1 or 2 wolves lie in there.

[The Jackal]

I didnt get a PM, I think it's because I'm a flyers fan.

[The Jackal]

And I'm guessing BK was a regular highlander since Lathum didn't indicate otherwise?

[The Jackal]

As for the vote, it'd be real nice to nail a third wolf.

Do we have any reason to sway towards one or more of the candidates? Probably best to hear it straight from their mouths and see what sounds fishy.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

<> is BK okay? Do we know for a fact he's alive and well?

As you can see from the writeup I am in fact dead and poor.

[saldana]

so here is what is left

2. Path12
3. NTNDeacon
6. Packerfanatic - cleared by seer
7. Jackal - connor
8. Saldana - cleared by seer
9. Clap - kurgan (not confirmed)
13. Grammaticus


of the 3 unknowns, have any of them been involved in a duel yet?

furthermore, was heinz ever in a duel?

[The Jackal]

I'll go check the duels.

[claphamsa]

I went to Boston... seemed that alot of others did as well!

[claphamsa]

Heinze was in a duel with narcizio

[PackerFanatic]

Heinze killed Narc, and Path was in a duel once as well, can't recall who.

[PackerFanatic]

And Clap is on the list of potentials as well, as we haven't confirmed that he is Kurgan.

[PackerFanatic]

Although from my feeling of him (evil and powerful) on day 1, and someone else saying they felt the same thing when in the same town as him, I imagine that is pretty close to confirmed.

[Mustang]

Whoa! I died?

I did NOT see that one coming.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

And Clap is on the list of potentials as well, as we haven't confirmed that he is Kurgan.

but no one has contested that claim, and no one has turned up dead that contests that claim, so there is no reason to dispute it.

right now, I have to lean towards Grammaticus...on day one (yes I realize it was day one), but Path and NTN were both instrumental in lynching mrs schmidty. at the same time, Gram had the chance to cast a meaningful vote, but instead threw his vote away on Mr. Schmidty.

odds of a wolf vs wolf runoff on day one is pretty slim, and Path could have just been trying to get in early on a losing cause, but at the time of his vote, the result was still well in doubt.

vote grammaticus

[The Jackal]

The duels I found were:

saldana defeats telle
heinz defeats narcizo
PF and clap draw
PF defeats BK

when did path duel?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Mustang

Whoa! I died?

I did NOT see that one coming.

i did tell you where i was going, just like you asked

[The Jackal]

also, got my PM, don't think i've been in a city with another person a single time

[The Jackal]

For reference:

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Votes

Mrs S by Barkeep (136)
Illifan by path (124)
NTN by DaddyTorgo (125)
NTN by Narcizo (129) 2-1-1
Mrs S by Heinz (133) 2-2-1
Illifan by Packer (136) 2-2-2
Telle by Mustang (137) 2-2-2-1
NTN by clap (142) 3-2-2-1
Mrs S by NTN (148) 3-3-2-1
Unvote Illi by Path (153) 3-3-1-1
Mrs S by Path (153) 4-3-1-1
Schmidty by Gramm (156) 4-3-1-1-1
Telle by illi (159) 4-3-2-1-1
NTN by Saldana (162) 4-4-2-1-1
Unvote Illi by Packer (165) 4-4-2-1
Vote Mrs S by Packer (165) 5-4-2-1

Which looks good for all of the Mrs S voters barring NTN, but particularly good for Packer and Path. Unless NTN is also bad, in which case I don't think anything can really be read into it. While it's not unheard of for there to be 2 wolf candidates in a day one vote it seems pretty unlikely, so I'll go with the assumption that Path and Packer should get a lot of trust, Heinz a fair bit and Barkeep a bit (it's not unheard of for wolves to cast the first vote on another wolf).

Can't help but feel that clap, Sal and myself come out looking bad from the voting. I made a case for not voting for a no-show early on while all our votes could be construed as save attempts (an early one in my case). Of course there's a chance that the wolves decided fairly early not to make any attempt to save Mrs S. Mustang, illi and Gramm's votes all looked like throwaway votes. While there's the no-shows to consider as well.

[saldana]

also, gram is being, IMO, a huge under the radar player in this game. he was never a blabber to the tune of a Heinz or Hoopsguy, but i have this nagging feeling that he is using the fact that many of the players remaining may not have ever played with him before, or even known that he used to be a regular player as a means of hiding.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Lathum

You arrive at your destination city and are suddenly clouded by an image, it is a smelly, nasty city. A vile city with vile imhabitants.

You see 2 familiar figures dueling in the orange glow of the dawn sunlight. Daddytorgo seems on his heels, his back against the Liberty Bell. Literaly. Suddenly he spins away as Path lunges forward for the kill. DT takes a viscous swing at Path which occupies the air Path just vacated, instead DT's sword gets imbedded deep into the liberty bell. "what's another crack" you think.

Path takes advantage of DT's momentery weakness and in one swift move cuts off his head.

Lichtining shoots from DT's head and Path absorbs it..

DT has been killed, he was a highlander.

Path's duel

[path12]

Guys, Monday morning crunch time, will be around later. Sucks we lost Mustang but at least we're narrowing down the suspects (even if I am one of the uncleared....)

[saldana]

2. Path12 - dueled DT
3. NTNDeacon - no duel history
6. Packerfanatic - cleared by seer - dueled Clap and BK
7. Jackal - connor - no duel history
8. Saldana - cleared by seer - dueled Telle
9. Clap - kurgan (not confirmed) - dueled PF
13. Grammaticus - no duel history


so we have 3 that were never in duels, one of which is the Jackal, who is know to us.

that leaves NTN or Grammaticus again as someone who could have been making the night kills...gotta go look to see if there was a night kill the night path had his battle with DT

[PackerFanatic]

No NK the night Path dueled.

[PackerFanatic]

Nights 2 and 4 are the only nights to have night kills.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Mustang

Sorry.

Vote Jackal

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Vote Jackal

Originally Posted by Lathum

current vote count

Jackal 4 ( NTNDeacon 445, Clap 439, Grammaticus 423, Mustang 444)

Grammaticus 3 ( Daddytorgo 440, Packerfanatic 428, Heinze 426)

Saldana 1 ( Path 437)

Daddytorgo 1 ( Jackal 398)

Barkeep 1 ( Saldana 435)

i think this is odd....heinze started the vote on gram...mustang voted at 7:43 to tie it.

NTN shows up 5 minutes later and hangs the lynch vote on Jackal with absolutely no explanation.

could it have been that he knew it was villager v villager and picked Jackal so that when gram died, we werent narrowing the field of "who voted for gram" down with 2 wolves in it?

[saldana]

dola, and why would heinze throw down the first vote on another wolf

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by saldana

dola, and why would heinze throw down the first vote on another wolf

That's actually not an uncommon wolf strategy. Especially when you think you may be able to have that vote stick and not get the player lynched. It can backfire - but if it does backfire, then you end up looking great for getting the first vote on a wolf.

[The Jackal]

Gram, path, ntn, where were each of you on N2 and N4?

[The Jackal]

FYI I won't be around much pre-deadline, seeing righteous kill at 5:10 or 7:15, probably 5:10.

[path12]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Gram, path, ntn, where were each of you on N2 and N4?

I was in Seattle night 2 and Philly night 4.

[ntndeacon]

I was in Chicago night 2 and Boston night 4.....my whole city list:
Night Destination
0 Philly
1 Boston
2 Chicago
3 Chicago
4 Boston

I have not been able to duel yet.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by saldana

i think this is odd....heinze started the vote on gram...mustang voted at 7:43 to tie it.

NTN shows up 5 minutes later and hangs the lynch vote on Jackal with absolutely no explanation.

could it have been that he knew it was villager v villager and picked Jackal so that when gram died, we werent narrowing the field of "who voted for gram" down with 2 wolves in it?

it could not mean that. I do not recall why I did not give a reason. I assume that I wanted to make sure Igot it in. but Iam not sure that was the reason. It makes sence to me though.

[ntndeacon]

and since the uncleared are down to three, lets get one of them... (prefferably not me but I understand if y'all go that way)

Vote Grammaticus

[saldana]

i am sticking with my Gram vote...i am not gonna be around before the lynch, so hopefully that will pan out

[path12]

Not to derail the thinking because of course the uncleared are the prime targets, but looking downrange if Clap is actually Kurgen we will need to make sure he is a lynch at some point since he is likely to win any duel he is involved in (and I assume that means night kills but don't know for sure).

As for today, since that's where the votes are heading for now I will also

VOTE GRAMMATICUS

Since naturally I would prefer to continue living and at least one wolf has to be in the group of three uncleared. As for my defense, all I have is being the deciding vote on Mrs. S and knowing my own status.

[PackerFanatic]

To be fair, I was the deciding vote on Mrs. S

Gramm certainly looks the most suspicious right now, but NTN isn't far behind him in my mind. But I have to go with my brethren and gut for now.

VOTE GRAMMATICUS

[The Jackal]

Hm. I kind of want to vote for path since he's already won a duel and therefore if he is the last wolf, he's got a foothold. That's my pure reasoning. I don't really have a feeling on any of the three off their play.

vote path

[The Jackal]

Doesn't really matter to me if my vote gains steam - I'm fine with the run on Gram.

[The Jackal]

Now I'm off to the movies, not sure exactly what time I'll be back.

[path12]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

To be fair, I was the deciding vote on Mrs. S

That could be, I know I broke the tie that put her up 4-3 but you may have broken a later one.....haven't had time today to do much research.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by path12

That could be, I know I broke the tie that put her up 4-3 but you may have broken a later one.....haven't had time today to do much research.

Yup, you did. And I broke the final one. I am just being a pain in the ass

[Grammaticus]

Vote Path

I don't think Mustang and NTN Deacon would have voted for me over Jackal knowing it was villager vs villager. That would make them look too bad when jackal came up clean and the wolves had already lost Ms. Scmidty so they would not be that open to taking a big risk at that point in the game. Mustang was Brenda and NTN Deacon is still alive. That leave Path as more likely of the uncleared.

I really do still have a suspicion on Saldana. I would not be surprised if he was a cunning wolf or whatever the one is that shows up good on a seer scan.