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Old 05-22-2013, 10:16 PM   #601
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Unless the servants of Asshai, whom Stannis is beholden to, demand sacrifice. I'm surprised no one mentioned this, with the lone exception being the small folk (hi, Alan T!) who eavesdrop on the discussions of nobility.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:16 PM   #602
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Then why capture him in the first place?

To stop Renly from?
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:17 PM   #603
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Your argument about a focus on Lannisters, when executing a prisoner who is no longer considered part of the house, rings false. Both Renly and Robb should have reason to be wary, although only one would-be ruler took action.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:19 PM   #604
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Your argument about a focus on Lannisters, when executing a prisoner who is no longer considered part of the house, rings false. Both Renly and Robb should have reason to be wary, although only one would-be ruler took action.

And giving lands back to the Lannisters, don't forget
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:19 PM   #605
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I am beholden to nobody, Tywin. The Asshai woman you speak of spends all her time elsewhere. She hasn't demanded a sacrifice of me, she hasn't even voted!
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:20 PM   #606
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Your argument about a focus on Lannisters, when executing a prisoner who is no longer considered part of the house, rings false. Both Renly and Robb should have reason to be wary, although only one would-be ruler took action.

Your argument makes no sense. I executed him so that no other house would rise above the others and cause dissent. You understanding counting enough to understand that. But like your daughter you'll do anything you can to turn attention from your house to mine.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:22 PM   #607
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FINAL DAY TWO VOTE COUNT:

Jaime Lannister (bhlloy): Cortnay Penrose (Darth Vilus), Rickard Karstark (MrBug708), Robb Stark (Coffee Warlord), Stannis (Autumn), Axell Florent (claphamsa), Ser Barristan (mauchow), Davos (InBlue), Melisandre (bulletsponge), Roose (JAG)-- 10 1/2 votes


Melisandre (bulletsponge): Cersei (Narcizo), Tyrion (Danny), Jaime (bhlloy), Tywin (hoopsguy), Theon (Lathum), Renly (path12), Brienne (fontisian), Loras (murrayyyyy), Joffrey (Zinto), )Littlefinger (saldana)-- 10 1/2 votes

Well... what do you know?
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:22 PM   #608
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And giving lands back to the Lannisters, don't forget

I'm sure that keep is going to turn the tide. If one keep is such a boon to the Lannisters you're suggesting I should have kept it myself? And I wonder what you would be saying about me then? Oh that I was grasping at power and dangerous to the realm, that's what the Lannisters were saying all day when they thought I would keep Clegane. Now that I didn't I'm somehow just as dangerous. It would make me laugh if that was something I did.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:22 PM   #609
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To stop Renly from?
Indeed.

Ser Gregor had already promised his alligiance to Lord Renly, as Stannis was no doubt aware. Stannis as good as killed one of our own. We do not forgive and we do not forget.

Stannis: You returned lands to the Lannisters, lands that could have been used against them. Your arguement assumes that there is no inequality between the houses already, which I doubt is the case.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:22 PM   #610
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Well... what do you know?

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Old 05-22-2013, 10:23 PM   #611
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Well... what do you know?
Alright, I'm scared.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:23 PM   #612
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I'm sure that keep is going to turn the tide. If one keep is such a boon to the Lannisters you're suggesting I should have kept it myself? And I wonder what you would be saying about me then? Oh that I was grasping at power and dangerous to the realm, that's what the Lannisters were saying all day when they thought I would keep Clegane. Now that I didn't I'm somehow just as dangerous. It would make me laugh if that was something I did.

Not dangerous. Just maybe not as smart as you had thought.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:24 PM   #613
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And giving lands back to the Lannisters, don't forget

I'd suggest that Cersei receives it, but the only receiving she gets seems to be from you Kingslayer.

Perhaps Baelish would like Gregor's lands? I don't think he'd want those particular lands. They really should go the way of the House of Reyne.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:26 PM   #614
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Well... what do you know?

and boom goes the dynamite... (oh wait, that will be in the tosh.o werewolf game)
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:26 PM   #615
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Not dangerous. Just maybe not as smart as you had thought.

I know thinking isn't your style, Jaime. Had i kept Clegane, he or Melisandre would have undoubtedly been voted tomorrow. Is that smart? Oh, it is for the Lannisters. But I'm not a Lannister.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:29 PM   #616
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It seems your alliance did a poor enough job keeping her off the block today, and that was before you double crossed your brother. We will see what the Gods decide I suppose
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:30 PM   #617
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Double crossed? You seem privy to more information than I do.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:33 PM   #618
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And you seem to be poor in reading comprehension.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:37 PM   #619
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There is much confusion. The kingdom seems split.

Half want Melisandre. The other half want Jaime Lannister.

Maester Pycelle of the Small Council is asked to check the history books for how this matter has been resolved in the past.

He slowly dotters off into the Great Library in the Red Keep, while the nobles gather and wait, and Tyrion gets drunk.

After several hours, the old maester returns with a thick book labelled "The Laws of the Land, First Edition".

"I have the answer," Pycelle croaks!

He carefully lies the dusty book down, and then opens it slowly. He turns carefully to a page marked by an undipped feather quill.

"It says heerrreee," Pycelle says, squinting with his finger poised on the text, "that every candidate becomes an Enemy of the Realm! It seems they chose to be safer killing them all, then not having a decision! So both Jaime Lannister (bhlloy) and Melisandre (bulletsponge) are declared Enemies of the Realm!

He looks up at the gathered crowd as he finishes and starts to close the book... but he suddenly stops.

"Wait! There is more!" he exclaims quaveringly. "It seems that those who would perpetrate a tie are also selected for punishment!"

It scans further done.

"These perpetrators, per this book from Aegon the Conqueror himself, mind you, would seem to be none other than the last voter on each man! " Pycelle says.

"That is Roose Bolton (JAG) and Ser Loras Tyrell (murrayyyyy)!"

The old maester reads from the book, "...and those who would perpetrate such a tie, last voters on each bannermen they must be, seek to ruin the kingdom through indecision and confusion!"

Pycelle stops in some astonishment and consternation as he looks up from the book.

"They are to be declared Enemies of the Realm as well!"
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:39 PM   #620
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Well, someone has succeeded in sowing chaos. Perhaps that was the goal.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:39 PM   #621
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And you seem to be poor in reading comprehension.

I don't know what you are talking about.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:40 PM   #622
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Pretty funny that it ended up being one from every house. Hooray!

Well I used up too much of my evening monitoring this. I must go.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:40 PM   #623
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So four enemies of the realm, all from different realms..
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:40 PM   #624
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:40 PM   #625
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The following players are now ALL Enemies of the Realm:

Ser Jaime Lannister (bhlloy) of HOUSE LANNISTER
The Lady Melisandre (bulletsponge) of HOUSE BARATHEON OF DRAGONSTONE
Lord Roose Bolton (JAG) of HOUSE STARK
Ser Loras Tyrell (murrayyyyy) of HOUSE BARATHEON OF STORM's END

Every King in the realm faces a decision. Normal rules of Enemy of the Realm apply. Final decisions for all must come by 1 p.m. EST tomorrow (10 a.m. PDT)
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:42 PM   #626
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:42 PM   #627
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One hand of the King
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:42 PM   #628
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Well, someone has succeeded in sowing chaos. Perhaps that was the goal.

Look to your own hand for that, as your execution of Ser Gregor while simultaneously spurning your cooperative venture with your brother, played the largest role in the tie.

My only role was in asking for the rules of the land to be upheld. That should certainly appeal to one such as Stannis Barathorn, no?
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:43 PM   #629
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What's the schedule for this weekend?
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:44 PM   #630
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Look to your own hand for that, as your execution of Ser Gregor while simultaneously spurning your cooperative venture with your brother, played the largest role in the tie.

My only role was in asking for the rules of the land to be upheld. That should certainly appeal to one such as Stannis Barathorn, no?


I don't understand either of these things. I had no cooperative venture that was spurned, other than ridding the realm of Lannisters. And I don't know what rule you mean.

Your role certainly doesn't surprise me. It surprises me that people actually fell for it. The Lannisters were on their heels and now everyone is. Foolish.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:44 PM   #631
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I will state publicly right now.

Ser Loras' vote was at my request. He shall not be punished for it.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:46 PM   #632
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What's the schedule for this weekend?

Holiday weekend. We will be off. Deadline wil run Friday night and then resume Tuesday.

Of course, everyone is welcome to continue posting and doing whatever, but no actions taken will be acted upon before Tuesday.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:52 PM   #633
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I will also point out to the other three Kings that if all of us take the dishonorable hit we are even still.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:56 PM   #634
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I don't know what you are talking about.
We asked you to send us Gregor or to set him free. Had you done so, we would have gladly worked with you to take down the Lannisters. Instead, you killed a man under our protection.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:57 PM   #635
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Just a head's up, this is going to take a bit. I have to clear out a ton of PMs and make sure I have all of the actions in place before I start to get results going.

So Day Three has more or less begun unofficially, but it will be official in bit.

I wouldn't recommend sticking around waiting for your action results unless you'll just be on the computer anyway.

Sorry for the delays. I gave y'all way too much to do every day.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:58 PM   #636
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Just a head's up, this is going to take a bit. I have to clear out a ton of PMs and make sure I have all of the actions in place before I start to get results going.

So Day Three has more or less begun unofficially, but it will be official in bit.

I wouldn't recommend sticking around waiting for your action results unless you'll just be on the computer anyway.

Sorry for the delays. I gave y'all way too much to do every day.

What? I'm sure I haven't sent you more than 20 or so in the past half hour. Slacker.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:04 PM   #637
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We asked you to send us Gregor or to set him free. Had you done so, we would have gladly worked with you to take down the Lannisters. Instead, you killed a man under our protection.

That is not the message I received. I will discuss it with Renly in private.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:05 PM   #638
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Just a head's up, this is going to take a bit. I have to clear out a ton of PMs and make sure I have all of the actions in place before I start to get results going.

So Day Three has more or less begun unofficially, but it will be official in bit.

I wouldn't recommend sticking around waiting for your action results unless you'll just be on the computer anyway.

Sorry for the delays. I gave y'all way too much to do every day.

(ooc)I sometimes call this the "create-a-power" problem
Moderating that game was death, and I expect this one isn't too far behind, minus the mind-numbing math(/ooc)
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:07 PM   #639
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What, I've only had to clear out my mailbox twice already...in two days...and I'm not running the game...good god.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:09 PM   #640
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Perhaps we can create another tie tomorrow, to see how deep in the archives Master Pycelle needs to go in order to resolve it.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:09 PM   #641
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I can see it now. The entire realm is an enemy of the realm.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:10 PM   #642
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Which...is probably fitting.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:10 PM   #643
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They can all flee to Storm's End if they'd like.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:13 PM   #644
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Renly, what does it say to you that Stannis felt it was more important to execute Ser Gregor than to cement your allegiance today? As I asked earlier, what could have been his purpose in doing so?

Were I still at your keep, I would ask this in private. But that option is not readily available to me.

I don't want/need a public answer; just a question worth discussing with your bannermen moving forward.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:14 PM   #645
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[ooc] sorry i wasn't around to weigh in guys. flight cancelled, trapped in montreal for the night. should be asleep already...3:45am wakeup call. back to normal tomorrow though. going to bed now. [/ooc]
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:19 PM   #646
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Renly, what does it say to you that Stannis felt it was more important to execute Ser Gregor than to cement your allegiance today? As I asked earlier, what could have been his purpose in doing so?

Were I still at your keep, I would ask this in private. But that option is not readily available to me.

I don't want/need a public answer; just a question worth discussing with your bannermen moving forward.

At this time I will just affirm that the issue has been a hot topic in Storm's End this evening.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:23 PM   #647
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:32 PM   #648
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(ooc) Yeah, I still have work to do, and then bed... (/ooc)

And Bulletsponge/Melisandre, please check in at the Dragonstone thread...
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:35 PM   #649
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Melisandre is an enemy of the realm. I do not think they can post there
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:29 AM   #650
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I thought she could, until she either fled or was disavowed/released?
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