Werewolf XXIII - Lost - Game Over! Survivors win! - Page 13

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Nice catch, that is something i hadnt noticed...im now suspicious of myself

Though to be fair i wasnt too afraid when i just got that spleen vote...Yesterday i did come close to being tied for the lead(NEVER TIED FOR OR TOOK THE LEAD IM PRETTY SURE)

Oh! Oh! I don't worry you! It's on now!

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Oh! Oh! I don't worry you! It's on now!

You worry me far more then others since i cant read you...i mean only it was 1-1...1 vote doesnt strike fear into my heart

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

On Day 3, the first vote came in late. 8:38 PM CST to be precise (post #1432). I didn't look up the other two days as they were a decent amount before the deadline. But I was curious about this day. On Day 3 you had gotten information from the moderator that gave you more info than your fellow players. So you were fishing for awhile on that afternoon.

Day 4 - first vote went in at 12:30 PM. Part of a bandwagon that started early that day (Post #1603). That doesn't fit any definition of late.

I don't have it in me to do this kind of research. Sheesh!

hoops = loco!

Desnudo · 02-12-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Day 1: 1:14 PM CST (deadline 8PM CST)
Day 2: 8:35 PM CST (deadline 11PM CST)
Day 3: 8:57 PM CST (deadline 9PM CST)
Day 4: 8:48 PM CST (deadline 10PM CST)

Note - these are your last votes and do not reflect your initial votes (in cases where you changed votes)

I rarely change my votes (probably setting myself up here). Except in the case of the Seer reveal. If you look at general voting schedules, I think you'll find that ~one-two hours before the deadline is pretty long to wait except for the people who like to pop in and out. I like to have as much information as possible before making a decision. Day 1 was the flamefest where sides were chosen very early.

Anyway, I don't trust you anymore than you trust me, so feel free to keep probing.

mckerney · 02-12-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Can you give your reason why you are voting for Penny here? This vote makes it Penny 2, Blade 1. But more importantly it happened fairly soon after Blade got a vote. (second time in two days that a possible run started after Blade came either tied to the lead or close to it.)

After reviewing some things in the thread I tend to agree with hoops and Blade that Penny is suspicious, and although I may be wrong Blade seems to be one of the people that can be trusted at this point (save for the whole thinking I may be an other).

mckerney · 02-12-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

After reviewing some things in the thread I tend to agree with hoops and Blade that Penny is suspicious, and although I may be wrong Blade seems to be one of the people that can be trusted at this point (save for the whole thinking I may be an other).

Also wanted to get a vote in earlier this time, and at the current time Penny seems to be the best option.

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

After reviewing some things in the thread I tend to agree with hoops and Blade that Penny is suspicious, and although I may be wrong Blade seems to be one of the people that can be trusted at this point (save for the whole thinking I may be an other).

No way, homie. I can't trust anyone until I facts show me that I can. The fact that Blade seems trustworthy is a big clue for me. He is a bad guy trying to convince us he's not. He wants us to trust him and I don't want to fall for it.

mckerney · 02-12-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

No way, homie. I can't trust anyone until I facts show me that I can. The fact that Blade seems trustworthy is a big clue for me. He is a bad guy trying to convince us he's not. He wants us to trust him and I don't want to fall for it.

Perhaps I'll turn out to be wrong, but I don't have a whole lot to go on at this point.

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

No way, homie. I can't trust anyone until I facts show me that I can. The fact that Blade seems trustworthy is a big clue for me. He is a bad guy trying to convince us he's not. He wants us to trust him and I don't want to fall for it.

LOL...that was hilarious...i dont think i have acted out of my usual style, but you would have to ask others about that

Desnudo · 02-12-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

I rarely change my votes (probably setting myself up here). Except in the case of the Seer reveal. If you look at general voting schedules, I think you'll find that ~one-two hours before the deadline is pretty long to wait except for the people who like to pop in and out. I like to have as much information as possible before making a decision. Day 1 was the flamefest where sides were chosen very early.

Anyway, I don't trust you anymore than you trust me, so feel free to keep probing.

The point I'm trying to make is that contextualize it rather than isolate it.

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Survivor Checking in...lets get "the others" whatever the hell that means...can someone give an idea of key show roles, like what powers the others might have for us non-watchers?

Here's my first real contribution...

Blade admits to not being a watcher of the show in the same post where he mentions 'the others'.

How does he know about 'the others' if he hasn't watched the show? There is no mention of 'the others' in this thread prior to his post.

He got 'the others' from a PM he received letting him know he was part of 'the others'.

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

LOL...that was hilarious...i dont think i have acted out of my usual style, but you would have to ask others about that

This is my first round with this, so I don't know how you've been in the past.

hoopsguy · 02-12-2006, 10:24 PM

Desnudo, I haven't cast a vote for you over this yet, so I'm not convinced that this whole exercise isn't a red herring. But the statement struck me as invalid in the context of last game. So I posted what I had on it, while trying to provide context in a reasonably balanced fashion.

KWhit · 02-12-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Here's my first real contribution...

Blade admits to not being a watcher of the show in the same post where he mentions 'the others'.

How does he know about 'the others' if he hasn't watched the show? There is no mention of 'the others' in this thread prior to his post.

He got 'the others' from a PM he received letting him know he was part of 'the others'.

Hmmm.... I don't know if I buy this or not, but if true it's certainly food for thought.

Desnudo · 02-12-2006, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Desnudo, I haven't cast a vote for you over this yet, so I'm not convinced that this whole exercise isn't a red herring. But the statement struck me as invalid in the context of last game. So I posted what I had on it, while trying to provide context in a reasonably balanced fashion.

I understand why you are doing what you are doing. People jump on discrepancies. I recognized the error in my post (saying I always do something) almost as soon as I posted it. I've seen people hung over less in the past.

mckerney · 02-12-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Hmmm.... I don't know if I buy this or not, but if true it's certainly food for thought.

Agreed. Something to keep in mind.

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Here's my first real contribution...

Blade admits to not being a watcher of the show in the same post where he mentions 'the others'.

How does he know about 'the others' if he hasn't watched the show? There is no mention of 'the others' in this thread prior to his post.

He got 'the others' from a PM he received letting him know he was part of 'the others'.

Nice catch, thats some solid detective work right there...if you want to know the reason, check out the thread just for lost(its on page 2 right now)...i posted in it on page 9(its on 11 now) before roles were sent out asking for a summary. Got a brief one, and then looked over the thread...i may have known more about the show then i let on(i also studied the lost official website which has character bios for every person on the island as well as a few fan sites)...I played dumb more to see who knew what they were talking about more then anything.

I dont watch the show, but i certainly did my homework coming in. Either way nice find.

hoopsguy · 02-12-2006, 10:35 PM

I did a search on Page 1 and the term "others" is not used before Blade mentions it. Time to check the timestamps Blade mentioned, but I certainly didn't want to jump in giving him an explanation before he posted ...

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Nice catch, thats some solid detective work right there...if you want to know the reason, check out the thread just for lost(its on page 2 right now)...i posted in it on page 9(its on 11 now) before roles were sent out asking for a summary. Got a brief one, and then looked over the thread...i may have known more about the show then i let on(i also studied the lost official website which has character bios for every person on the island as well as a few fan sites)...I played dumb more to see who knew what they were talking about more then anything.

I dont watch the show, but i certainly did my homework coming in. Either way nice find.

The Lost Season 2 thread is 26 pages long. Page 9 was posted all the way back in 10/2005 for me. Give me post numbers.

KWhit · 02-12-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Nice catch, thats some solid detective work right there...if you want to know the reason, check out the thread just for lost(its on page 2 right now)...i posted in it on page 9(its on 11 now) before roles were sent out asking for a summary. Got a brief one, and then looked over the thread...i may have known more about the show then i let on(i also studied the lost official website which has character bios for every person on the island as well as a few fan sites)...I played dumb more to see who knew what they were talking about more then anything.

I dont watch the show, but i certainly did my homework coming in. Either way nice find.

You certainly played up the "I don't know anything about the show" angle. Why would a survivor do that?

mckerney · 02-12-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

The Lost Season 2 thread is 26 pages long. Page 9 was posted all the way back in 10/2005 for me. Give me post numbers.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...postcount=1189

02-08-2006, 11:00 PM

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

The Lost Season 2 thread is 26 pages long. Page 9 was posted all the way back in 10/2005 for me. Give me post numbers.

POST #1189 was my question, a wednesday, before the game started...i revied a fair amount of that thread and other lost websites

hoopsguy · 02-12-2006, 10:40 PM

I found it - Post #1189, dated 2/8. That is Wednesday, roles went out Thursday night.

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

You certainly played up the "I don't know anything about the show" angle. Why would a survivor do that?

Its important in a hidden role game like this all about a subject matter to know who knows their stuff. In the harry potter game it was key, knowing when people came out with reveals if they could be trusted. It was what got sun lynched after he came out with a role reveal i believe. I wanted to know who knows lost, and i do. If you disagree with that idea, so be it. But with so much knowledge show based but hidden, i think its quite wise to find out who knows what

hoopsguy · 02-12-2006, 10:43 PM

I would have busted Blade's nuts for days if he got revealed as an "other" from that. Even if it wasn't 100% correct, thanks for bringing a smile to my face for a couple of minutes, Spleen

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:43 PM

hoops and mckerney jumping to Blade's defense.

3 wolfs perhaps? Hmm?

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I would have busted Blade's nuts for days if he got revealed as an "other" from that. Even if it wasn't 100% correct, thanks for bringing a smile to my face for a couple of minutes, Spleen

LOL, if i had been a wolf and tripped up like that i never would have lived it down...i cant even imagine how much crap i would have gotten from you, ardent, dubb...hell, im sure someone would PM fozzie

mckerney · 02-12-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

hoops and mckerney jumping to Blade's defense.

3 wolfs perhaps? Hmm?

I was hardly jumping to any defense. I just found the post and the timestamp of the post that spleen was asking about so it could be compared with the time of Blades first post about the others.

hoopsguy · 02-12-2006, 10:46 PM

Again I'm getting tied to mckerney (sigh).

Spleen, I think you are getting the hang of werewolf - from being afraid to annoy someone with a vote on Day 1 to linking three people as wolfs on one post in Day 2. Congrats on your progress, even if you are 100% wrong on me as an other/wolf.

KWhit · 02-12-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

But with so much knowledge show based but hidden, i think its quite wise to find out who knows what

But this whole time you've been lying about what you know. You just went up to #1 on my distrust list.

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I would have busted Blade's nuts for days if he got revealed as an "other" from that. Even if it wasn't 100% correct, thanks for bringing a smile to my face for a couple of minutes, Spleen

Thanks! I've been reading the happenings of the thread all day thinking I didn't have what it takes to play in these games because I had nothing to offer as far as theories or things of that nature.

My crosshairs are on Blade. What the hell?!

P.S. I believe KWhit is on the good side, btw.

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Again I'm getting tied to mckerney (sigh).

Spleen, I think you are getting the hang of werewolf - from being afraid to annoy someone with a vote on Day 1 to linking three people as wolfs on one post in Day 2. Congrats on your progress, even if you are 100% wrong on me as an other/wolf.

It is all about seeing roses in the mud and hoping to get lucky.

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Thanks! I've been reading the happenings of the thread all day thinking I didn't have what it takes to play in these games because I had nothing to offer as far as theories or things of that nature.

My crosshairs are on Blade. What the hell?!

P.S. I believe KWhit is on the good side, btw.

You should read alan t's game in correlation to me last game...people always trust those supporting each other. Kwhit backs your idea(or goes against me) and you like him. Just saying thats not always the best way to go(if so, raiders would be trusted for me...but alas, he still is on my suspicious list)

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

You should read alan t's game in correlation to me last game...people always trust those supporting each other. Kwhit backs your idea(or goes against me) and you like him. Just saying thats not always the best way to go(if so, raiders would be trusted for me...but alas, he still is on my suspicious list)

I have a very good reason to trust him....

You would have the same reason were you not an 'other'.

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

But this whole time you've been lying about what you know. You just went up to #1 on my distrust list.

Fair enough, i can deal with that. I made a move to learn who knows what(which was soo key in harry potter, which was by far the closest game to this one)...you dont like it, cool. But id do it again in a hearbeat

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I have a very good reason to trust him....

You would have the same reason were you not an 'other'.

If we have an empath:

"IM NOT AN OTHER, NOT ON DAY 2 OR ANY OTHER DAY"

Im not an other, i promise you as much. You can crusade against me with kwhit's support, but in the end it will be a day that ends up not killing an other.

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

If we have an empath:

"IM NOT AN OTHER, NOT ON DAY 2 OR ANY OTHER DAY"

Im not an other, i promise you as much. You can crusade against me with kwhit's support, but in the end it will be a day that ends up not killing an other.

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Smile all you want...this has helped me greatly...always nice to see who allies themselves with who...this will be quite useful in later days

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Smile all you want...this has helped me greatly...always nice to see who allies themselves with who...this will be quite useful in later days

Prove you're on our side and you'll have my support.

KWhit · 02-12-2006, 10:57 PM

I'll be happy to say the same for the empath:

I'm not an other. I am a simple survivor.

Bearcat729 · 02-12-2006, 10:58 PM

I sit here reading all this and I still don't know who I will vote for tomorrow. All I know is I don't trust anyone.

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Prove you're on our side and you'll have my support.

The proof i can give would only get me killed by the wolves for being a "cleared villager"...im not about to do a role reveal until im as good as dead...so distrust me, will only make you more attentative to my play and the game(thats a good thing)

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 11:01 PM

Is there something more to a role reveal other than just saying "I'm a survivor."?

If there is more, I would like to know.

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Is there something more to a role reveal other than just saying "I'm a survivor."?

If there is more, I would like to know.

Yes, a role reveal would include more then simply saying im a survivor...anyone can do that

KWhit · 02-12-2006, 11:04 PM

Just some posts that I find suspicious now that Blade has admitted that he did research on the show before we started.

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Originally Posted by Blade post 50

Survivor Checking in...lets get "the others" whatever the hell that means...can someone give an idea of key show roles, like what powers the others might have for us non-watchers?

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Originally Posted by Blade post 67

Honsestly, hes one of the names bolded on the initial list...hoping to generate chatter, but since i dont know lost i dont know why those numbers are bolded...evil clue?

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Originally Posted by Blade post 76 about the numbers

From Kings post they held recurring value on the island.

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Originally Posted by Blade post 79

Sun, thank you for that breakdown..i now know 100% more then i did before.

That is just from the first 2 pages of the thread. There are more examples, but I haven't gone through the whole thread yet. I find it very suspicious for someone to lie like this.

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Yes, a role reveal would include more then simply saying im a survivor...anyone can do that

But, if I am a simple survivor and I don't have any special skills, etc. what is there to role reveal?

KWhit · 02-12-2006, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

But, if I am a simple survivor and I don't have any special skills, etc. what is there to role reveal?

Nothing.

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Just some posts that I find suspicious now that Blade has admitted that he did research on the show before we started.

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That is just from the first 2 pages of the thread. There are more examples, but I haven't gone through the whole thread yet. I find it very suspicious for someone to lie like this.

If he was just playing possum, then he's doing a good job of keeping up the act.

spleen1015 · 02-12-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Nothing.

Yikes. Then this is interesting....

I hope I am right about Blade.

Blade6119 · 02-12-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

But, if I am a simple survivor and I don't have any special skills, etc. what is there to role reveal?

We all recieved PMs at the beginning stating our roles...PMs that is paraphrased can easily be compared to clear people. I refuse to do that right now, as it would basically make it easy for any wolf to repeat what i say later

02-12-2006, 10:24 PM	#613
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Desnudo, I haven't cast a vote for you over this yet, so I'm not convinced that this whole exercise isn't a red herring. But the statement struck me as invalid in the context of last game. So I posted what I had on it, while trying to provide context in a reasonably balanced fashion.

02-12-2006, 10:35 PM	#618
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I did a search on Page 1 and the term "others" is not used before Blade mentions it. Time to check the timestamps Blade mentioned, but I certainly didn't want to jump in giving him an explanation before he posted ...

02-12-2006, 10:40 PM	#623
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I found it - Post #1189, dated 2/8. That is Wednesday, roles went out Thursday night.

02-12-2006, 10:43 PM	#625
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I would have busted Blade's nuts for days if he got revealed as an "other" from that. Even if it wasn't 100% correct, thanks for bringing a smile to my face for a couple of minutes, Spleen

02-12-2006, 10:43 PM	#626
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	hoops and mckerney jumping to Blade's defense. 3 wolfs perhaps? Hmm?

02-12-2006, 10:46 PM	#629
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Again I'm getting tied to mckerney (sigh). Spleen, I think you are getting the hang of werewolf - from being afraid to annoy someone with a vote on Day 1 to linking three people as wolfs on one post in Day 2. Congrats on your progress, even if you are 100% wrong on me as an other/wolf.

02-12-2006, 10:57 PM	#640
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'll be happy to say the same for the empath: I'm not an other. I am a simple survivor.

02-12-2006, 10:58 PM	#641
Bearcat729 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	I sit here reading all this and I still don't know who I will vote for tomorrow. All I know is I don't trust anyone.

02-12-2006, 11:01 PM	#643
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Is there something more to a role reveal other than just saying "I'm a survivor."? If there is more, I would like to know.

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