2023 NFL Regular Season Thread - Page 13

cuervo72 · 10-05-2023, 09:31 PM

This team is 0-4 how, again?

Atocep · 10-05-2023, 09:36 PM

Up until last week Fields had been awful. Like really awful. However, coming into tonight he was still on pace for the 3rd most passing yards in a season for a Bears QB. Oh, 17 games? Ok, remove the 17th game and he was still on pace for a top 5 season in franchise history.

thesloppy · 10-05-2023, 09:45 PM

Fields looked great for moments last year too & there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to how or when he is going to show up. If this guy shows up for 9 games the Bears are legit trouble for anyone...if he shows up for 3 or 4 games a year he's the worst kind of albatross.

Ksyrup · 10-05-2023, 09:46 PM

Well, Chicago blew a big lead to Denver and Washington overcame a big deficit to Denver so I'm still hopeful this could become a competitive game.

cuervo72 · 10-05-2023, 09:57 PM

Yeah, I'm kinda thinking I'm going to find out in this second half.

Atocep · 10-05-2023, 11:26 PM

DJ Moore has played 5 games as a Bear and I'm declaring him the best receiver in team history.

Bobble · 10-05-2023, 11:32 PM

I'm a Fields fan but some of those completions were lucky not to be picks. The last TD... Couple of straight-up misses too. A few dimes but too inconsistent to call Fields "back" or whatever. Anxious to see another JT O'Sullivan review on Fields when that comes out.

Hat's off to the Bears, though. So many injuries -- O-line, and basically running out of running backs -- yikes, but they fought through it and got the win.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-06-2023, 12:09 AM

How does anyone in DC still have a football job tomorrow?

flere-imsaho · 10-06-2023, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

Fields looked great for moments last year too & there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to how or when he is going to show up. If this guy shows up for 9 games the Bears are legit trouble for anyone...if he shows up for 3 or 4 games a year he's the worst kind of albatross.

So, he's Rex Grossman with more variance.

miami_fan · 10-06-2023, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobble

I'm a Fields fan but some of those completions were lucky not to be picks. The last TD... Couple of straight-up misses too. A few dimes but too inconsistent to call Fields "back" or whatever. Anxious to see another JT O'Sullivan review on Fields when that comes out.

Hat's off to the Bears, though. So many injuries -- O-line, and basically running out of running backs -- yikes, but they fought through it and got the win.

I feel like the Bears have pretty much written off Fields having success in Chicago. Trade Fields, bring in Caleb Williams and let's see how the Bears develop him.

albionmoonlight · 10-06-2023, 07:56 AM

The whole point of a stable-but-not-exciting coach like Ron Rivera is that your team does not lay an egg on random Thursday night games against shitty teams.

stevew · 10-06-2023, 08:17 AM

Fields 7-19 for 52 yards when not targeting Moore.

CrimsonFox · 10-06-2023, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

I feel like the Bears have pretty much written off Fields having success in Chicago. Trade Fields, bring in Caleb Williams and let's see how the Bears develop him.

I dig this! This is the PERFECT week to offload Fields. He had this "big" game where he performed so you can get a lot of draft picks and stuff for him to develop. Maybe even a nice veteran Defense guy or lineman

stevew · 10-06-2023, 08:46 AM

1 million (fake)dollars if anyone can name the bears backup.

stevew · 10-06-2023, 08:48 AM

Who even would want Fields? New England?

albionmoonlight · 10-06-2023, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

1 million (fake)dollars if anyone can name the bears backup.

Wow. Great question. I have no idea. I'll guess Tyrod Taylor.

albionmoonlight · 10-06-2023, 08:54 AM

dola: Just looked it up. So much funnier than I had expected.

CrimsonFox · 10-06-2023, 08:57 AM

This says something about...something...

CrimsonFox · 10-06-2023, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Who even would want Fields? New England?

perfect ego for that team

Swaggs · 10-06-2023, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Who even would want Fields? New England?

Steelers?

Swaggs · 10-06-2023, 10:52 AM

https://stathead.com/tiny/3xAp5

I can't figure out how to embed the table, but Fields somehow looks better and is a year younger than Pickett.

Ksyrup · 10-06-2023, 10:54 AM

Claypool to the Dolphins and an exchange of late-round picks in 2025.

stevew · 10-06-2023, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Steelers?

Was watching some Kordell mix vid yesterday and wished we had a futuristic scheme like that now

JonInMiddleGA · 10-06-2023, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Claypool to the Dolphins and an exchange of late-round picks in 2025.

Saw that, had to scratch my head. The espn depth chart slots him in behind Berrios, who has caught most of what's been thrown his way (13 rec/16 targets) soooooo ... what makes Miami think Claypool is going to be better behaved as a 3rd or 4th option than he was in Chicago?

larrymcg421 · 10-06-2023, 11:23 AM

After Berrios, Miami has major depth issues due to injuries. It may or may not work due to the reasons you stated, but it's a pretty painless price to pay to help shore up depth.

bhlloy · 10-06-2023, 11:29 AM

Counterpoint - a swap of late round picks is basically meaningless as everybody is basically just getting a jump on guys they kinda like but don't want to risk not getting in FA at that point, and they are getting a guy who was talented enough to be a starter and have a second round pick spent on him a year before. It's a lottery ticket for a dollar.

More importantly though, how do you turn the 32nd overall pick into that a year later and still have a job?

albionmoonlight · 10-06-2023, 11:42 AM

Bringing in an aging vet to see if he has anything left in the tank is costless.

Bringing in a head-case comes with risk.

molson · 10-06-2023, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Who even would want Fields? New England?

Straight-up for Mac, all day. Let's do this.

bhlloy · 10-06-2023, 11:44 AM

It really doesn't. He either shows he's willing to work as the WR4 and bust his ass, or you cut him in a couple of weeks.

molson · 10-06-2023, 11:46 AM

Him being bad isn't really a risk, bad players come and go, but does having to use up a disproportionate amount of staff and coaching resources needing to supervise and coddle and motiviate him in the middle of a playoff season create one?

bhlloy · 10-06-2023, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

Straight-up for Mac, all day. Let's do this.

Got to be one of the strangest QB arcs. From an overrated noodle arm who was only good because of Saban to a draft darling and riser, looking really promising and a steal in year 1 to being run out of town 4 games into year 3.

molson · 10-06-2023, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

Got to be one of the strangest QB arcs. From an overrated noodle arm who was only good because of Saban to a draft darling and riser, looking really promising and a steal in year 1 to being run out of town 4 games into year 3.

And geez is he divisive in the fanbase. I know the offense sucks around him but he has clearly regressed as well. I don't get the loyalty to him most of the fans have. I think maybe they see the "normal" NFL fandom experience of cycling out failed QBs and can't come to terms with it, so, we're going to be pretend he's the guy.

But every take they've had about him was wrong. They celebrated McDaniels leaving because he was holding Mac back. They celebrated Patricia leaving (more reasonably to a point) and said he was the whole problem. Mac's on-field tantrums last year fueled it all more. But McDaniels and Patricia knew Mac's limitations, and McDaniels especially knew how to maximize what he had with him.

But he's actually been worse without Patricia. Which of course there's other excuses for now. I don't watch a ton of other teams' games, but I'm not sure I've ever seen an NFL QB just crumple under pressure and adversity as much as Mac did last week. He makes poor decisions, can't throw deep, isn't accurate, terrible footwork, easily rattled, isn't mobile, but other than, you know, he's solid.

I think there's a good chance they bottom out into a top-5 pick, especially with the injuries on defense, and I would bet better than 50/50 that they'd have a whole new regime, including the head coach and the QB, moving forward at that point.

albionmoonlight · 10-06-2023, 12:00 PM

The fanbase of the loser of Saints/Pats this weekend is going to spiral down badly. Someone will come out of that game with a "We couldn't even beat them?" feeling.

Maybe it will be a 0-0 tie.

NobodyHere · 10-06-2023, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

The fanbase of the loser of Saints/Pats this weekend is going to spiral down badly. Someone will come out of that game with a "We couldn't even beat them?" feeling.

Maybe it will be a 0-0 tie.

Fun Fact!

The last 0-0 game was between the Giants and Lions in 1943!

molson · 10-06-2023, 12:15 PM

I think the last 0-0 game in college was Oregon/Oregon State in 1983. They got lots of rain in Eugene that day, I can confirm that's a common thing.

Ksyrup · 10-06-2023, 12:36 PM

I know this is an NFL thread but I felt compelled.

weegeebored · 10-06-2023, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Straight-up for Mac, all day. Let's do this.

No thanks, but I would still like to see Fields traded. Two good games in a 30+ game career is nothing to get excited about. His numbers would be much worse if he wasn't throwing to a stud WR in Moore. Has Fields ever "thrown anyone open"? I haven't seen it.

Unless some amazing winning streak occurs my position about this team has not changed -- Poles and company need to go. Fields needs to go. The training staff needs to go. I won't openly root against them but the Bears are better served being in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes than winning 5 or 6 games.

CrimsonFox · 10-06-2023, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Him being bad isn't really a risk, bad players come and go, but does having to use up a disproportionate amount of staff and coaching resources needing to supervise and coddle and motiviate him in the middle of a playoff season create one?

I mean....that's the staff's job. They aren't "wasting time". It's called "working".

CrimsonFox · 10-06-2023, 04:39 PM

no one has suggested the Jets yet for fields

RainMaker · 10-06-2023, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Saw that, had to scratch my head. The espn depth chart slots him in behind Berrios, who has caught most of what's been thrown his way (13 rec/16 targets) soooooo ... what makes Miami think Claypool is going to be better behaved as a 3rd or 4th option than he was in Chicago?

I think it's just a low-risk flyer. The Bears will pick very early in the 7th and the Dolphins will pick late in the 6th. So it's maybe like a 1-10 pick upgrade for the Bears late in the draft.

Claypool is a freak athlete so maybe the hope is that he'll be a better fit in this offense and will actually try since he's in a contract year. The guy has been terrible in Chicago but they also have one of the worst coaching staffs in the league.

miami_fan · 10-06-2023, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Broncos released Randy Gregory in the 2nd year of a 5 year $70M deal. Wow. Let the Sean Payton housecleaning begin. Or tank job. Either way. Gregory has been a massive disappointment. Looked like a great signing last year.

Broncos trading Randy Gregory to 49ers, sources say - ESPN

Ksyrup · 10-08-2023, 12:43 PM

How does Etienne not sit at the 1 yard line there?

GrantDawg · 10-08-2023, 01:20 PM

The Falcons had a good offensive series. That might the one they are allowed per game, but I hope not.

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bronconick · 10-08-2023, 01:48 PM

Good of the Jags to get another home win.

bhlloy · 10-08-2023, 02:47 PM

Ok, so it turns out Mac is absolutely awful. Holy crap.

albionmoonlight · 10-08-2023, 03:08 PM

It won’t matter in 50 years, but Belichick is shitting on his legacy just so he can limp across the finish line and catch Shula

GrantDawg · 10-08-2023, 03:11 PM

Ridder plays well, and it immediately causes the rest of the offense to collapse.

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GrantDawg · 10-08-2023, 03:30 PM

Bijan just caught a pass with one hand that was basically behind his back and ran in fir a touchdown. Crazy.

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cuervo72 · 10-08-2023, 03:49 PM

/chuckles at the Ravens

albionmoonlight · 10-08-2023, 03:53 PM

Lots of New England fans already gone. I guess it’s what have you done for me lately.

10-05-2023, 09:31 PM	#601
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	This team is 0-4 how, again? __________________ null

10-05-2023, 09:45 PM	#603
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Fields looked great for moments last year too & there doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to how or when he is going to show up. If this guy shows up for 9 games the Bears are legit trouble for anyone...if he shows up for 3 or 4 games a year he's the worst kind of albatross. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

10-05-2023, 09:46 PM	#604
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Well, Chicago blew a big lead to Denver and Washington overcame a big deficit to Denver so I'm still hopeful this could become a competitive game. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-05-2023, 09:57 PM	#605
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Yeah, I'm kinda thinking I'm going to find out in this second half. __________________ null

10-05-2023, 11:32 PM	#607
Bobble College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: High and outside	I'm a Fields fan but some of those completions were lucky not to be picks. The last TD... Couple of straight-up misses too. A few dimes but too inconsistent to call Fields "back" or whatever. Anxious to see another JT O'Sullivan review on Fields when that comes out. Hat's off to the Bears, though. So many injuries -- O-line, and basically running out of running backs -- yikes, but they fought through it and got the win. Last edited by Bobble : 10-05-2023 at 11:32 PM.

10-05-2023, 09:36 PM	#602
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Up until last week Fields had been awful. Like really awful. However, coming into tonight he was still on pace for the 3rd most passing yards in a season for a Bears QB. Oh, 17 games? Ok, remove the 17th game and he was still on pace for a top 5 season in franchise history.

10-05-2023, 11:26 PM	#606
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	DJ Moore has played 5 games as a Bear and I'm declaring him the best receiver in team history.

10-06-2023, 12:09 AM	#608
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	How does anyone in DC still have a football job tomorrow? __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

10-06-2023, 07:56 AM	#611
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	The whole point of a stable-but-not-exciting coach like Ron Rivera is that your team does not lay an egg on random Thursday night games against shitty teams.

10-06-2023, 08:17 AM	#612
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Fields 7-19 for 52 yards when not targeting Moore.

10-06-2023, 08:46 AM	#614
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	1 million (fake)dollars if anyone can name the bears backup.

10-06-2023, 08:48 AM	#615
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Who even would want Fields? New England?

10-06-2023, 08:54 AM	#617
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	dola: Just looked it up. So much funnier than I had expected.

10-06-2023, 08:57 AM	#618
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	This says something about...something...

10-06-2023, 10:52 AM	#621
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	https://stathead.com/tiny/3xAp5 I can't figure out how to embed the table, but Fields somehow looks better and is a year younger than Pickett. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

10-06-2023, 10:54 AM	#622
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Claypool to the Dolphins and an exchange of late-round picks in 2025. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-06-2023, 11:23 AM	#625
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	After Berrios, Miami has major depth issues due to injuries. It may or may not work due to the reasons you stated, but it's a pretty painless price to pay to help shore up depth. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner

10-06-2023, 11:29 AM	#626
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Counterpoint - a swap of late round picks is basically meaningless as everybody is basically just getting a jump on guys they kinda like but don't want to risk not getting in FA at that point, and they are getting a guy who was talented enough to be a starter and have a second round pick spent on him a year before. It's a lottery ticket for a dollar. More importantly though, how do you turn the 32nd overall pick into that a year later and still have a job?

10-06-2023, 11:42 AM	#627
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Bringing in an aging vet to see if he has anything left in the tank is costless. Bringing in a head-case comes with risk.

10-06-2023, 11:44 AM	#629
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	It really doesn't. He either shows he's willing to work as the WR4 and bust his ass, or you cut him in a couple of weeks.

10-06-2023, 11:46 AM	#630
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Him being bad isn't really a risk, bad players come and go, but does having to use up a disproportionate amount of staff and coaching resources needing to supervise and coddle and motiviate him in the middle of a playoff season create one? Last edited by molson : 10-06-2023 at 11:47 AM.

10-06-2023, 12:00 PM	#633
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	The fanbase of the loser of Saints/Pats this weekend is going to spiral down badly. Someone will come out of that game with a "We couldn't even beat them?" feeling. Maybe it will be a 0-0 tie.

10-06-2023, 12:15 PM	#635
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I think the last 0-0 game in college was Oregon/Oregon State in 1983. They got lots of rain in Eugene that day, I can confirm that's a common thing.

10-06-2023, 12:36 PM	#636
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I know this is an NFL thread but I felt compelled. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-06-2023, 04:39 PM	#639
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	no one has suggested the Jets yet for fields

10-08-2023, 12:43 PM	#642
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	How does Etienne not sit at the 1 yard line there? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-08-2023, 01:20 PM	#643
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	The Falcons had a good offensive series. That might the one they are allowed per game, but I hope not. Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk Last edited by GrantDawg : 10-08-2023 at 01:20 PM.

10-08-2023, 01:48 PM	#644
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Good of the Jags to get another home win.

10-08-2023, 02:47 PM	#645
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Ok, so it turns out Mac is absolutely awful. Holy crap.

10-08-2023, 03:08 PM	#646
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	It won’t matter in 50 years, but Belichick is shitting on his legacy just so he can limp across the finish line and catch Shula

10-08-2023, 03:11 PM	#647
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Ridder plays well, and it immediately causes the rest of the offense to collapse. Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

10-08-2023, 03:30 PM	#648
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Bijan just caught a pass with one hand that was basically behind his back and ran in fir a touchdown. Crazy. Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

10-08-2023, 03:49 PM	#649
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	/chuckles at the Ravens __________________ null

10-08-2023, 03:53 PM	#650
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Lots of New England fans already gone. I guess it’s what have you done for me lately.

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