2024 NFL Offseason, Free Agency, and Draft Talk

[QuikSand]

My son (11) and I put together a big board for the first round of the draft... has been fun working through all the permutations. Thus far:

-We have Chargers being the team to deal down for a QB-aspirant, and it's Maye not McCarthy (who goes at 3 on our board)

-We have Jacksonville moving up to 8 to get WR Odunze ahead of the Bears

-We have waffled on what to do with Michael Penix, after a stint off our board entirely we are back to him going at 13 to the Raiders (though I think I'd prefer them dealing down a bit if they want him)

Has been fun. Will likely revise again before things kick off tonight.

[Edward64]

Looking forward to the draft. Hoping for some trade surprises and unexpected picks (Raiders?) tonight.

Draft analysts have been saying the Falcons will go with an Edge/DL for #1.

[weegeebored]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

We have Jacksonville moving up to 8 to get WR Odunze ahead of the Bears

Grabbing another WR is a luxury pick for the Bears, especially because they only have four total picks. They need another rusher, edge or interior. I prefer an edge rusher because..well..how many DTs is Poles going to draft? I still think they trade down but Poles needs a dance partner.

[GrantDawg]

I don't doubt the Falcons trading down, but I do think down that far would be disappointing. They need to stay in 11-15 range.

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[Ksyrup]

I lol'd.

Babe wake up, the Broncos are going to set their franchise back another 5 years tonight #NFLDraft

— Edge �� (@BroncosEdge_) April 25, 2024

[CrimsonFox]

what the hell is an edge?

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

what the hell is an edge?

what Teddy Bridgewater uses to shave

[QuikSand]

Let Me Google That

[QuikSand]

Ok, Cards lovers, where are we? What's the official play with pick 4?

-KEEP IT, TAKE MHJr
-KEEP IT, TAKE OTHER BPA
-TRADE DOWN to 11-12-13 then deal back up for WR2/3
-TRADE DOWN to 11-12-13 and just use that haul to add talent
-SOMETHING ELSE


I think I am now at the point where I like "TRADE DOWN to 11-12-13 then deal back up for WR2/3" with all the mist building around MHJr, but maybe I am just falling for the stupid smoke.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Ok, Cards lovers, where are we? What's the official play with pick 4?

-KEEP IT, TAKE MHJr
-KEEP IT, TAKE OTHER BPA
-TRADE DOWN to 11-12-13 then deal back up for WR2/3
-TRADE DOWN to 11-12-13 and just use that haul to add talent
-SOMETHING ELSE


I think I am now at the point where I like "TRADE DOWN to 11-12-13 then deal back up for WR2/3" with all the mist building around MHJr, but maybe I am just falling for the stupid smoke.

Trade down to 11, then trade back up to 8. Will probably still end up + a solid pick and a good choice a WR.

[GrantDawg]

And yes, that is totally a selfish Falcons fan's take.

[RainMaker]

I would trade down. They have so many needs and I'm guessing someone will give up quite a haul for a QB at #4.

But if the offers aren't great, I'd just take MHJ.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by weegeebored

Grabbing another WR is a luxury pick for the Bears, especially because they only have four total picks. They need another rusher, edge or interior. I prefer an edge rusher because..well..how many DTs is Poles going to draft? I still think they trade down but Poles needs a dance partner.

Dallas Turner or Byron Murphy are my top 2 realistic options at that spot. Trade down for Verse would be my next preferred option. I don't think he has the ceiling of Turner, but he's a more complete DE. Latu's neck injury scares me, but he's probably the most ready of the DEs on day 1.

I would also consider one of the tackles and move Braxton Jones into a swing lineman role over WR.

[RainMaker]

Allen is only in Chicago for a year so I would be fine with one of the wide receivers at #9. With the contracts being given out to receivers, if you can nab a #1, you do it. While I like the defensive guys too, I don't think there are really any huge impact guys.

[GrantDawg]

The Rams are starting to heat up as trade partners with the Falcons. They seem to be targeting Brock Bowers.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Allen is only in Chicago for a year so I would be fine with one of the wide receivers at #9. With the contracts being given out to receivers, if you can nab a #1, you do it. While I like the defensive guys too, I don't think there are really any huge impact guys.

If they have Odunze as a number 1 I'm ok with it. Not my preferred option but it makes sense.

I just don't want Bowers. Nothing really against him, but taking TEs in the top 10 is stupid. Every "generational talent" at TE that I can think of off the top of my head has ended up being just a good TE that you can get later in the draft. Winslow, Pitts, Vernon Davis or even Ebron and Hockenson. All good players, but also enough evidence for me to not take a TE in the top 10.

[CrimsonFox]

So are like the phones goin wild with traade discussions now?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

what Teddy Bridgewater uses to shave

heh okay now I know...I've never heard it called Edge before. It's always been Defensive End to me.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Ok, Cards lovers, where are we? What's the official play with pick 4?

-KEEP IT, TAKE MHJr
-KEEP IT, TAKE OTHER BPA
-TRADE DOWN to 11-12-13 then deal back up for WR2/3
-TRADE DOWN to 11-12-13 and just use that haul to add talent
-SOMETHING ELSE


I think I am now at the point where I like "TRADE DOWN to 11-12-13 then deal back up for WR2/3" with all the mist building around MHJr, but maybe I am just falling for the stupid smoke.

i say they should keep it, but if the top 3 QB's don't go ahead of them, there's going to be a lot of interest in trading up to 4, and someone may offer the bank to get the pick. As long as the Cards get a 1st rounder in the top half of the draft, then i would be okay with making a trade.



But they have almost no reliable WR talent on the roster, so they have to go with a WR here. I think they are going to keep the pick and take MHJr.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

heh okay now I know...I've never heard it called Edge before. It's always been Defensive End to me.

It's edge because many also play outside linebacker. In today's game, most are asked to play a little of both.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

So are like the phones goin wild with traade discussions now?

I wonder this.

I suspect (but would love to know one way or the other) that the actual day of the draft is quiet. All of the groundwork was laid over the previous months. Teams have been talking and working out trade parameters. Boards are set.

It seems like if you are still doing a ton of stuff right now, you did it wrong.

When I have an oral argument, the intense work and prep is done in the weeks before. The day before and day of is about travel and keeping myself loose.

[CrimsonFox]

Watch the Chicago Bears start the draft with a Kicker...

[Danny]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I wonder this.

I suspect (but would love to know one way or the other) that the actual day of the draft is quiet. All of the groundwork was laid over the previous months. Teams have been talking and working out trade parameters. Boards are set.

It seems like if you are still doing a ton of stuff right now, you did it wrong.

When I have an oral argument, the intense work and prep is done in the weeks before. The day before and day of is about travel and keeping myself loose.

I dont know but id guess you are mostly correct until the draft actually starts. Then things i imagine heat up as players go earlier, drop down etc...

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Danny

I dont know but id guess you are mostly correct until the draft actually starts. Then things i imagine heat up as players go earlier, drop down etc...

so trades happen DURING the draft once they see who is left to take?

[molson]

As an example, there were over 40 trades during the draft last year, and 6 trades during Day 1.

[weegeebored]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Allen is only in Chicago for a year so I would be fine with one of the wide receivers at #9. With the contracts being given out to receivers, if you can nab a #1, you do it. While I like the defensive guys too, I don't think there are really any huge impact guys.

I wouldn't cry if the Bears took a WR but there's only one ball. They already have two #1 wideouts, a TE with very good hands, and an RB who is a threat in the passing game. A pass rusher will have more of an impact and it's a bigger need. They can worry about a WR next year; they're not going to the Super Bowl this season. They might not even make the playoffs this year. The North is a pretty tough division.

[weegeebored]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Watch the Chicago Bears start the draft with a Kicker...

I'm still skeptical about Poles, but not that skeptical.

Oops. Dola. My first one.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

so trades happen DURING the draft once they see who is left to take?

That's my thinking. All of the planning has been along the lines of

If X happens, then we do Y
If Z happens, then we do A
If B happens, then we do C

But there's nothing much to do until the draft starts and you see what actually happens

[CrimsonFox]

Got my pizza. All ready.

[NobodyHere]

I can't even remember why we boo Roger Goodell anymore.

[CrimsonFox]

I would not want to stand there outside not being able to see much when I can sit here comfy and see everything

[Atocep]

We need more stuff like that opening and less guests announcing picks.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Atocep

We need more stuff like that opening and less guests announcing picks.

What up yo Detroit

[sovereignstar v2]

Make the damn pick already!

[CrimsonFox]

So does every pick take the full 10 minutes?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Make the damn pick already!

I know right? What are they gonna do... change their minds after putting all their eggs in one basket?

[sovereignstar v2]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

So does every pick take the full 10 minutes?

Sometimes the Vikings take more time than they are allotted

https://youtu.be/Ocnnt2fm974?si=iHwGUsHmi-aya1Cq&t=3780

[CrimsonFox]

So ghe draft has become like American idol with the showing films about their family ?

[CrimsonFox]

Wondering who is going to pull the trigger on a wr

[GrantDawg]

I totally get Daniels over Maye. I think he is going to be special.

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[CrimsonFox]

The commanders mascot is a pig??? Lol

[GrantDawg]

Maye is going to NE. Now, the big question is what are the Cards going to do.

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[CrimsonFox]

Now we're cooking

[Atocep]

Drake Maye will be playing young Jason Bateman in films.

[CrimsonFox]

What's the over-under on which of the big 3 will bust first

[Edward64]

It’d be nice to see Harrison Jr do great

[CrimsonFox]

There you go thomkal . Merry Xmas

[GrantDawg]

Looks like the Chargers and then the Giants aren't moving. There are no trades after all the buzz so far.

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[Lathum]

I absolutely can not root for JJ McCarthey

[sovereignstar v2]

Smokescreen, Lathum