The Trump Presidency 2.0

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Dutch

That uptick was the big push by the Chinese to move fentanyl into the US. That’s was a factor in the build the wall campaign that Democrats and Socialists like AOC decried as racism. Biden was paralyzed and unable to take any action because of that mantra. What efforts at the legal ports of entry were done to stop the flow from there? Nothing? Its weakness from within that has allowed this to get so bad.

As mentioned, the uptick started under Trump. Biden policies led to 2024 being the first downtick in 5 years. Those same policies have led to more fentanyl seizures at ports of entry over the past 2 years than the previous 5 years combined. Biden also invested 40% more than the Trump administration in making Naxolone widely available over the counter.

This all started in 2021, the year he became President, when he signed executive orders targeting people and entities involved in bringing drugs into the US.

Everyone here gets that you don't like Biden, but pretending he did nothing while you yourself didn't do the slightest bit of research to back your Newsmax/Fox News narratives is exhausting.

At least put minimal effort into your propaganda posts.

[RainMaker]

Also fentanyl is shipped in, not smuggled over a border. Unless that wall blocks planes and ships, it ain't doing shit to slow that down.

[JPhillips]

JFC

Pete Hegseth’s mom: “I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around and uses women for his own power and ego. You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth.”

[RainMaker]

I think it's funny that he loved Crusader Kings so much he got a tattoo from the game on him.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Trudeau in Mar-a-lago now to discuss the border crisis with President-elect Trump. Not meeting with Biden-Harris talks to the paralysis imposed on these discussions the previous 4 years.

Mexico’s President had a similar conversation already.

Nice pic.

I'd think the lower levels would have met for months, agree on a framework, and then the leaders meet. Trudeau coming down for a visit shows how serious he takes Trump's blustering. It'll be interesting to see what Trudeau comes up with to please Trump.

[Dutch]

I don’t care if Trudeau pleases Trump. I want him to be a friend to us, the American citizens across his southern border.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Atocep

As mentioned, the uptick started under Trump. Biden policies led to 2024 being the first downtick in 5 years. Those same policies have led to more fentanyl seizures at ports of entry over the past 2 years than the previous 5 years combined. Biden also invested 40% more than the Trump administration in making Naxolone widely available over the counter.

This all started in 2021, the year he became President, when he signed executive orders targeting people and entities involved in bringing drugs into the US.

Everyone here gets that you don't like Biden, but pretending he did nothing while you yourself didn't do the slightest bit of research to back your Newsmax/Fox News narratives is exhausting.

At least put minimal effort into your propaganda posts.

The uptick cannot happen in the 11th hour, that’s meant to try and win an election and a victory would have meant the repeal of any 11th hour uptick, the Biden-Harris core belief is open borders and it’s because they believed it was votes for them. The good news for GOP is that Hispanics are swinging heavily more so to the GOP and the DEM’s insane plan to grab votes has failed them.

To Rainmakers point on apathy of government, who do you think has cared less about the border crisis? The biden admin clearly wins here. The crisis reached wild record highs under his watch and he simply refused to do anything. People have been begging him for 4 years and he laughed at those people. Biden, Kamala-the Border Czar, and their front-man Myorkas said IDGAF 11 million+ times as Americans (first those on the border, then in Martha’s Vineyard, then in downtown Chicago, and ultimately everywhere across the nation) and the expectation is that the U.S. government needs to care a little bit more than that.

If Biden enforced mass deportation, he would have had to move how many people? A million? Now it’s 11+ million on top of whatever Biden could’ve managed. And FOFC’s majority crowd is mad that Mexico is going to be mad at Trump? My expectation is that Trump will take the PR hit to clean up Biden’s mess and make our country less dangerous to Americans and honestly, to these poor people from South and Central America that have suffered so much so the Dem’s could use them as pawns.

The USA still has a quota of allowing 1 million immigrants per year. These are legal entries that dwarf the second most generous nation on Earth (Germany, 500,000) and we cannot simply ignore that generosity.

[JPhillips]

This is just 100 octane nuts.

Open borders - No
Votes for them - No
Didn't try to do anything - No
11+ million - No
Only a million undocumented in 2021 - No
1 million immigrants a year - No

Other than that, you really nailed this post.

[miked]

Don't forget there was a bipartisan solution that was agreed upon, but then the Donald skunked it so he could campaign on it.

[cuervo72]

I still want to know what makes this a “crisis.” Are millions of people dying from starvation, are hundreds of thousands homeless and roaming the desert, are there dire water shortages? Are there pitched battles happening in our streets, neighborhoods being leveled? Is the economy tanking, are we spiraling into depression?

I get that we may not want an uncontrolled population boom (well, some want that they just want the right population), but why are we at crisis levels?

(Meanwhile, climate - no problem!)

[Passacaglia]

Someone's dog was missing for a few hours.

[cuervo72]

I mean, my mom — who can’t stand Trump — has even expressed worries about immigration. And I try to ask her why; does she ever encounter undocumented immigrants in middle Bucks County? Are they encroaching in the woods behind her house? Are they somehow stealing her retirement money? I don’t ever get a firm answer other than that “they need to do it the right way” or the impression she is vaguely uncomfortable that they are not like her. To that I ask, “How are they going to prevent you from living your 75-yo life the way you already are? Not the way you did in the 50s, which is long gone and didn’t even exist when I grew up in the 70s. Are they making you eat weird food, forcing you to speak Spanish? No?” And if she’s considered that we have made it increasingly difficult to immigrate “the right way”?

[Atocep]

If only they had the same outrage about school shootings.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I still want to know what makes this a “crisis.”

A fucking invasion by criminals violating the single most important claim to existence as an actual nation - a fucking border - is about as crisis as it gets.

And it ought to be a capital offense ... as should aiding and/or abetting them.

[cuervo72]

If you feel it is that important perhaps you shoud go down to the border and take some out yourself. Preferably young ones (four, five years old) they would have more time to crime here.

[cuervo72]

I know, that makes me sound too much like RaimMaker saying I should go over to Ukraine. But Texas, Arizona, or even finding someone at Publix is a lot more realistic.

[cuervo72]

Yes, I am being flippant. I just find it hard to wrap my head around how someone can grow into the mindset of EVERYONE IS MY FUCKING ENEMY AND DESERVES TO DIE. I just don’t understand how someone winds up there.

[HerRealName]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

A fucking invasion by criminals violating the single most important claim to existence as an actual nation - a fucking border - is about as crisis as it gets.

And it ought to be a capital offense ... as should aiding and/or abetting them.

During the USA's history, how many years has it met your number 1 qualification as a Nation?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Yes, I am being flippant. I just find it hard to wrap my head around how someone can grow into the mindset of EVERYONE IS MY FUCKING ENEMY AND DESERVES TO DIE. I just don’t understand how someone winds up there.

Lots of conservative media consumption.

If Kamala had won a lot of dems would be celebrating the possibility of better healthcare, student loan forgiveness, and other things to improve people's quality of life. Conservatives are celebrating how many people they can punish.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

If you feel it is that important perhaps you shoud go down to the border and take some out yourself. Preferably young ones (four, five years old) they would have more time to crime here.

You say that as though I'd have even the slightest hesitation were it legal.

If you think I'd bat even a single eyelash you've badly misjudged me. I'd lose more sleep over a shitty round of Balatro.

[cuervo72]

I know you would, I guess I’m mildly surprised you wouldn’t roll the legal dice as things currently stand.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Yes, I am being flippant.

That's ok. Liberals generally are, just as conservatives use a lot of over-the-top hyperbole. What this country really needs is some nuance.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Yes, I am being flippant. I just find it hard to wrap my head around how someone can grow into the mindset of EVERYONE IS MY FUCKING ENEMY AND DESERVES TO DIE. I just don’t understand how someone winds up there.

No one ever answers this question, so you might as well be flippant about it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

I know you would, I guess I’m mildly surprised you wouldn’t roll the legal dice as things currently stand.

Never trust a jury.

[JPhillips]

Kash Patel for FBI Director.

It's going to get bad.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

Yes, I am being flippant. I just find it hard to wrap my head around how someone can grow into the mindset of EVERYONE IS MY FUCKING ENEMY AND DESERVES TO DIE. I just don’t understand how someone winds up there.

Phony masculinity to compensate for their deep-seated hatred over their own closeted homosexuality.

[Mota]

Originally Posted by Atocep

As mentioned, the uptick started under Trump. Biden policies led to 2024 being the first downtick in 5 years. Those same policies have led to more fentanyl seizures at ports of entry over the past 2 years than the previous 5 years combined. Biden also invested 40% more than the Trump administration in making Naxolone widely available over the counter.

This all started in 2021, the year he became President, when he signed executive orders targeting people and entities involved in bringing drugs into the US.

Everyone here gets that you don't like Biden, but pretending he did nothing while you yourself didn't do the slightest bit of research to back your Newsmax/Fox News narratives is exhausting.

At least put minimal effort into your propaganda posts.

I think Dutch is trapped in a right wing echo chamber to believe that stuff.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I don’t care if Trudeau pleases Trump. I want him to be a friend to us, the American citizens across his southern border.

Do you want Trump to be a friend to the Canadian and Mexican citizens across our borders?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Mota

I think Dutch is trapped in a right wing echo chamber to believe that stuff.

100%

It's a party without ideas on how to really help people inside our borders so it's easier to make enemies outside our borders while cutting taxes for rich and stacking their administration with people wholly unqualified for the jobs they've been nominated and pushing us further into an oligarchy. It's a new level of absurd that they claim Kamala was a DEI hire while Trump nominates people with zero experience into high level government positions.

They cried about Twitter being used to influence the election in 2020 and weren't able to prove anything although Gym Jordan tried his best. Musk has openly bragged about his election influence. Suddenly they don't really care.

For the border, data shows migrants commit crimes at a much lower rate, play a huge role in boosting our economy, and pay into our social systems without receiving anything in return. They cherry pick the small number that commit crimes and condemn all people of color for them while turning their head to the massive number of white domestic terrorists and school shooters. If they spent a small fraction of the money and energy on mass shootings that they do on immigration we could get somewhere on solving one of the real problems the country faces.

They think inflation was created by the Biden administration while being unable to point to a single policy that supports that idea and ignoring the fact that we had a global inflation problem that we actually stayed ahead of. They also ignore the fact that Trump approved $3 trillion in stimulus that was widely acknowledged would lead to inflation at the time. It was for the greater good during a global pandemic but we knew what we were getting ourselves into at the time.

Dutch comes in here with either bad information, misleading information, or just flat out no information while parroting right wing news talking points from an organization that has admitted in court that they are not news but opinion and entertainment instead. As I mentioned, I get that he doesn't like Biden but it's one thing to not agree with policy from the opposing administration and it's another thing entirely to believe they're doing nothing. Instead of stopping to think that maybe his thinking is flawed by believing the Biden administration isn't doing anything at all he just continues to double down on it.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

A fucking invasion by criminals violating the single most important claim to existence as an actual nation - a fucking border - is about as crisis as it gets.

And it ought to be a capital offense ... as should aiding and/or abetting them.

I wonder how much of this is confusion about what it means to have a border. Sure, of course countries have to have borders -- that's how you know where one ends and the next one begins. Even then, I'd say you can have disputed borders and still have a "claim to existence as an actual nation" if you had some kind of identity regarding how it's run. But you're using the word "border" and implying a lot more than what it means.

[Mota]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Do you want Trump to be a friend to the Canadian and Mexican citizens across our borders?

He's just making fun of my comment from a few days ago about how we're supposed to be friends with our closest neighbors and not bullies, it was just a troll post.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I think it's funny that he loved Crusader Kings so much he got a tattoo from the game on him.

*Chef's kiss*

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Do you want Trump to be a friend to the Canadian and Mexican citizens across our borders?

We already are. Mexico and Canada both export 75% of their products to the USA. We are the very best friends anyone could have, essentially employing millions of their people. Asking for them to help protect our borders isn’t the terrible ask some think it is.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by miked

Don't forget there was a bipartisan solution that was agreed upon, but then the Donald skunked it so he could campaign on it.

You may need to re-read that bill.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Dutch

You may need to re-read that bill.

The one that not only had enough bi-partisan support to pass but was endorsed by the Border Patrol?

[JPhillips]

And was largely written by a GOP Senator.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Lathum

The one that not only had enough bi-partisan support to pass but was endorsed by the Border Patrol?

It was co-written by James Lankford, a single GOP senator with help from two Democrats. He was largely distrusted as pandering to the Democrats.

The CBP union bosses endorsed it, not the employees. Much like how the UAW employees largely supported Trump but the union bosses decided for the first time to not endorse Harris. It’s just the opinion of the executive.

As this was written by senators, the GOP led House was not afforded a vote on this bill.

The Senate voted with all GOP senators voting against it (including Lankford!) and 5 Democrats as well.

Bipartisan in this sense typically was simply a talking point by Harris-Walz and ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and MSNBC. But it clearly needs bipartisan support to truly be bipartisan.

[Atocep]

It's clear Hegseth wasn't vetted at all. More stuff just keeps coming out on this guy.

[JPhillips]

We don't have to guess about what happened. Trump wanted to run on immigration and told GOPers to vote against the bill. It was all out in the open.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Atocep

It's clear Hegseth wasn't vetted at all. More stuff just keeps coming out on this guy.

Honestly, the entire “vetting” process is just “saw on Fox and I like what they said about me.”

[flere-imsaho]

What's the point of the vetting process? Donald Trump is going to be President again. It's not like putting particular evil and unqualified people nominally in charge of things is going to make it worse.

[Lathum]

How are those protest votes working out?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/02/w...uguration.html

[JPhillips]

S. Korean President declares martial law to remove N. Korean and anti-state forces.

[Edward64]

Probably won't work out well for him.

Hope they impeach and toss him in jail.

[Brian Swartz]

Given the number of people that didn't vote, along with those who voted for Trump not as protest, getting exercised about protest votes is ludicrous. Talk about majoring in the minors.

[JPhillips]

From what I can tell, the S. Korean parliament can override the martial law declaration with a smile majority, but the military and/or police are currently blocking access to the parliament building.

[JPhillips]

Maybe it's just my feeds, but fascinating that Blusky is all over this S. Korean coup and Twitter is all over the Biden pardon.

[JPhillips]

The S. Korean Assembly voted to override the declaration of martial law. Seems to be consensus that the only remaining question is how far will the military go. Even then, if the coup is still ongoing when the sun comes up the expectation is that the people will protest in absurdly high numbers. The current president is not expected to survive this for long.

[GrantDawg]

A reporter was at the scene of the National Assembly, and live skeeted the action. She said the military tried to stop the assembly people from coming in but they pushed right passed them. She the soldiers looked frightened. Looks like there is no real will in the military for a coup.

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[JPhillips]

Yeah, sounds like the military has withdrawn.