Werewolf XCVII - Labyrinth II (GAME OVER - COMMONERS WIN!) - Page 14

Tyrith · 06-24-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Can you clarify how you were able to make that choice?

I'm a mischef maker - I can do things to help or harm the people I come across, and they influence what side I wind up on. Based on the choices I make, it influences what team I wind up on. ATM I'm still neutral, but there's really no point for me to try to go against this flow - we have the remaining wolves pretty well corned in the JAG/Abe/CR/nfg group.

RendeR · 06-24-2009, 09:27 PM

Well that was less than spectacular on our part.

RendeR · 06-24-2009, 09:27 PM

oh and I got my ass handed to me playing tennis too, so AWESOME night in Rend-land.

Abe Sargent · 06-24-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

well I can view Abe or Render-I would not put it past the wolves to freeze one of their own at this point and Render being protected by the Paladin could be a fake too. Or go for one of the three basically unknowns in Chief Rum, Tyrith, or Nfg22. Decisions, Decisions...

If you want to scan me, I'm comfortable with that. If I were a wolf, I'd not use Ice tricks on my own right now, behind the 8 ball, I'd rather use them on one of the many revealed roles. But we've seen it happenb in other games with similar mecahnics, so I'd certainly understand why you would/.

Passacaglia · 06-24-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

I'm a mischef maker - I can do things to help or harm the people I come across, and they influence what side I wind up on. Based on the choices I make, it influences what team I wind up on. ATM I'm still neutral, but there's really no point for me to try to go against this flow - we have the remaining wolves pretty well corned in the JAG/Abe/CR/nfg group.

So wait -- what does it mean to be neutral?

Tyrith · 06-24-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So wait -- what does it mean to be neutral?

Right now I win with no one. Seems like an incentive to actually do something.

Passacaglia · 06-24-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Right now I win with no one. Seems like an incentive to actually do something.

To do...what? Do you have a way you can actually have a win condition? That's messed. How are you supposed to know what to do if you have no win condition?

dubb93 · 06-24-2009, 09:41 PM

When is this deadline. Midnight or noon?

Passacaglia · 06-24-2009, 09:42 PM

I believe it's noon.

Tyrith · 06-24-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

To do...what? Do you have a way you can actually have a win condition? That's messed. How are you supposed to know what to do if you have no win condition?

If I go villager, I win with the villagers. If I go wolf, I win with the wolves. It's my choice.

The Jackal · 06-24-2009, 09:47 PM

Deadline is at noon, as usual. 12 PM.

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

If I go villager, I win with the villagers. If I go wolf, I win with the wolves. It's my choice.

One problem...Im loki and I had the choice to go minotaur also...sorry. Your wrong. I have not made my choice but it has been presented to me. I know im second reveal but im not lying. So you have two wolves, Jag and tyriith.

Ill vote JAG.

Also, I havent made my choice but with two more wolves down it will most definetely be villager. I just got my choice now, with the movement which is why I had not made it.

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 09:53 PM

By the way...scan me. Ill come out LOKI

RendeR · 06-24-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22

By the way...scan me. Ill come out LOKI

Actually if you are indeed Loki your scan should turn out neutral.

Scans don't give specifics, just good/bad

Tyrith · 06-24-2009, 09:59 PM

Which leaves four people in the game without having claimed roles. So we're looking at JAG/nfg (nice try for a rookie, btw) and, realistically, either CR or Abe as wolves. What a pigeon shoot.

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Which leaves four people in the game without having claimed roles. So we're looking at JAG/nfg (nice try for a rookie, btw) and, realistically, either CR or Abe as wolves. What a pigeon shoot.

Well technically I am not a rookie, I have played before but it has been a while. Also being the Loki, I had no reason to reveal as I had no heat on me and had not made my choice yet. They will either lynch me and kill you the next day or kill you and then we roll on towards the middle. The village will win, if we can get to the middle.

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

Actually if you are indeed Loki your scan should turn out neutral.

Scans don't give specifics, just good/bad

But I have made my choice...so arent I good now?

RendeR · 06-24-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22

But I have made my choice...so arent I good now?

That remains to be seen =)

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

That remains to be seen =)

Well then lets see...

Danny · 06-24-2009, 10:11 PM

Thomkal, I say you scan CR. I think we end up lynching both NFG and Tyrith after Jag and possibly CR if he turns up wolf.

Thomkal · 06-24-2009, 10:24 PM

thanks Danny for the advice. I was all set to send my scan in a few minutes ago, had to reboot, and came back to find nfg claiming Loki now. May be the only time I was happy to have to reboot.

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2009, 10:31 PM

yeah i'd do that. scan CR.

we go JAG today and then we worry about the Tyrith/NFG decision tomorrow and then the day after that we worry about the CR/Abe decision (there is one there right - assuming Abe doesn't reveal) and then after that move to those like RendeR and Lerriuqs who were cleared by virtue of being the recipient of actions and haven't explicitly claimed roles.

That's a roadmap, in case I die.

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Thomkal, I say you scan CR. I think we end up lynching both NFG and Tyrith after Jag and possibly CR if he turns up wolf.

So no scanning me?

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22

So no scanning me?

nope. we're already 50/50 on you being good or bad. you may have to sacrifice your life for the good of the village if you are actually good, but if you do that you're a participant in the gloary of the win.

if you include lerriuqs and render we're only 25% sure that CR is a wolf (1/4), so he is a priority for a scan.

Danny · 06-24-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22

So no scanning me?

honestly, once we find the four wolves you should be the next one to be lynched anyway. If CR turns up wolf we can lynch Jag, CR and then Tyrith and you.

DaddyTorgo, the only thing I don't agree with is Lerriuqs, there is no reason for him to reveal, he has been cleared by Martin who we know is good. Also because Abe was frozen today we know that Render is a good guy as long as the bodyguard doesn't dispute his story. Because of this I'd say we have a wolf between NTN and Tyrith and then one between Abe and CR. I'd like to see CR scanned which gives us our wolf out of Abe and CR.

Thomkal · 06-24-2009, 10:40 PM

the thing is I think CR may be good, so I'm not sure if I want to scan him or not.

nfg22 · 06-24-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

honestly, once we find the four wolves you should be the next one to be lynched anyway. If CR turns up wolf we can lynch Jag, CR and then Tyrith and you.

DaddyTorgo, the only thing I don't agree with is Lerriuqs, there is no reason for him to reveal, he has been cleared by Martin who we know is good. Also because Abe was frozen today we know that Render is a good guy as long as the bodyguard doesn't dispute his story. Because of this I'd say we have a wolf between NTN and Tyrith and then one between Abe and CR. I'd like to see CR scanned which gives us our wolf out of Abe and CR.

Im down with taking one for the team if needed but if we get Jag and CR by that time we could scan me or tyrinth and find out who is who. I mean honestly if I was a wolf I still wouldnt be gaining anything. It isnt like you have to delay in killing those who you already know are wolves.

DaddyTorgo · 06-24-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

honestly, once we find the four wolves you should be the next one to be lynched anyway. If CR turns up wolf we can lynch Jag, CR and then Tyrith and you.

DaddyTorgo, the only thing I don't agree with is Lerriuqs, there is no reason for him to reveal, he has been cleared by Martin who we know is good. Also because Abe was frozen today we know that Render is a good guy as long as the bodyguard doesn't dispute his story. Because of this I'd say we have a wolf between NTN and Tyrith and then one between Abe and CR. I'd like to see CR scanned which gives us our wolf out of Abe and CR.

good point - i forgot that!!

lerriuqs could still be some sort of cunning though, right? i mean i think that's the absolute LAST thing we look for, just saying.

Barkeep49 · 06-24-2009, 11:25 PM

Vote JAG

For obvious reasons.

Schmidty · 06-24-2009, 11:50 PM

Bumping this.

lerriuqs · 06-25-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

good point - i forgot that!!

lerriuqs could still be some sort of cunning though, right? i mean i think that's the absolute LAST thing we look for, just saying.

Or...I'm Theseus II...

lerriuqs · 06-25-2009, 12:16 AM

Just got caught up...A very interesting day.

Also, I'm unfortunately going to be away most of the day tomorrow as well. Was golfing today - tomorrow a course - but I should be here prior to deadline tomorrow.

MartinD · 06-25-2009, 12:34 AM

Catching up - apologies to Autumn, but I really didn't like the way that you kept going on at me to reveal who was on my list (once or twice would have been fair enough, but to mention it in what seemed like every post you made for the best part of a page was overkill). That appears to make today's lynch vote something of a formality...

VOTE JAG

For what it's worth, I do have a second scan - had dubb93 on my list, for very similar reasons to why I chose Lathum - and will be scanning nfg22. (I wouldn't have made this public, but wanted to be sure that Thomkal doesn't scan the same person as me.)

nfg22 · 06-25-2009, 12:38 AM

Thanks you martin.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 06:03 AM

Why are people voting? I thought we were still in night 2?

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 07:26 AM

we are. till noon. everyone's gonna hafta revote (unless jackal accepts these)

Barkeep49 · 06-25-2009, 08:01 AM

Sorry. The phases of this game kind of blend together for me.

Danny · 06-25-2009, 08:13 AM

If we find another wolf today from a scan, we should vote that way. JAG is probably the brutal wolf.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 08:18 AM

because he's the one that they chose to make the initial fake-reveal? you could be on to something there

Thomkal · 06-25-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

If we find another wolf today from a scan, we should vote that way. JAG is probably the brutal wolf.

yeah I was going to bring that up. I definitely think JAG is the brutal wolf.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 09:30 AM

Well I guess we can go for one of the Lokis, but I think you've got to go with the wolf you know, even if it's brutal -- especially with the advantage we've got.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 10:29 AM

Or we can sit around and not say anything until the night deadline.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 10:36 AM

All right, since there's no discussion, how about this. I'm standing in front of a shimmering blue column, which I can enter. Should I enter it?

Thomkal · 06-25-2009, 10:39 AM

why not Pass, the worse it can do is kill you.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Well I guess we can go for one of the Lokis, but I think you've got to go with the wolf you know, even if it's brutal -- especially with the advantage we've got.

i agree. wolf you know over 50/50 loki-shot i think.

DaddyTorgo · 06-25-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i agree. wolf you know over 50/50 loki-shot i think.

should say 50/50 wolf/loki shot

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

should say 50/50 wolf/loki shot

Right. On the other hand, we might actually want to kill Loki.

Passacaglia · 06-25-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

If I go villager, I win with the villagers. If I go wolf, I win with the wolves. It's my choice.

I thought I saw you in the thread Tyrith, so I'll ask now: when do you get to make that choice?

The Jackal · 06-25-2009, 10:55 AM

Those votes are valid, FYI. You can vote anytime you want between lynch deadlines.

The Jackal · 06-25-2009, 10:57 AM

JAG 3 (nfg 662, BK 679, MartinD 683)

06-24-2009, 09:27 PM	#652
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	Well that was less than spectacular on our part. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-24-2009, 09:27 PM	#653
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	oh and I got my ass handed to me playing tennis too, so AWESOME night in Rend-land. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

06-24-2009, 10:31 PM	#672
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yeah i'd do that. scan CR. we go JAG today and then we worry about the Tyrith/NFG decision tomorrow and then the day after that we worry about the CR/Abe decision (there is one there right - assuming Abe doesn't reveal) and then after that move to those like RendeR and Lerriuqs who were cleared by virtue of being the recipient of actions and haven't explicitly claimed roles. That's a roadmap, in case I die. __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-24-2009, 11:50 PM	#680
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Bumping this. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

06-25-2009, 07:26 AM	#686
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	we are. till noon. everyone's gonna hafta revote (unless jackal accepts these) __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-24-2009, 09:42 PM	#659
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I believe it's noon.

06-24-2009, 09:47 PM	#661
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Deadline is at noon, as usual. 12 PM.

06-24-2009, 09:53 PM	#663
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	By the way...scan me. Ill come out LOKI

06-24-2009, 09:59 PM	#665
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Which leaves four people in the game without having claimed roles. So we're looking at JAG/nfg (nice try for a rookie, btw) and, realistically, either CR or Abe as wolves. What a pigeon shoot.

06-24-2009, 10:11 PM	#670
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Thomkal, I say you scan CR. I think we end up lynching both NFG and Tyrith after Jag and possibly CR if he turns up wolf.

06-24-2009, 10:24 PM	#671
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	thanks Danny for the advice. I was all set to send my scan in a few minutes ago, had to reboot, and came back to find nfg claiming Loki now. May be the only time I was happy to have to reboot.

06-24-2009, 10:40 PM	#676
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	the thing is I think CR may be good, so I'm not sure if I want to scan him or not.

06-24-2009, 11:25 PM	#679
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Vote JAG For obvious reasons.

06-25-2009, 12:16 AM	#682
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	Just got caught up...A very interesting day. Also, I'm unfortunately going to be away most of the day tomorrow as well. Was golfing today - tomorrow a course - but I should be here prior to deadline tomorrow.

06-25-2009, 12:34 AM	#683
MartinD High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: East Lothian, Scotland	Catching up - apologies to Autumn, but I really didn't like the way that you kept going on at me to reveal who was on my list (once or twice would have been fair enough, but to mention it in what seemed like every post you made for the best part of a page was overkill). That appears to make today's lynch vote something of a formality... VOTE JAG For what it's worth, I do have a second scan - had dubb93 on my list, for very similar reasons to why I chose Lathum - and will be scanning nfg22. (I wouldn't have made this public, but wanted to be sure that Thomkal doesn't scan the same person as me.)

06-25-2009, 12:38 AM	#684
nfg22 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2004	Thanks you martin.

06-25-2009, 06:03 AM	#685
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Why are people voting? I thought we were still in night 2?

06-25-2009, 08:01 AM	#687
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Sorry. The phases of this game kind of blend together for me.

06-25-2009, 08:13 AM	#688
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If we find another wolf today from a scan, we should vote that way. JAG is probably the brutal wolf.

06-25-2009, 08:18 AM	#689
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	because he's the one that they chose to make the initial fake-reveal? you could be on to something there __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-25-2009, 09:30 AM	#691
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Well I guess we can go for one of the Lokis, but I think you've got to go with the wolf you know, even if it's brutal -- especially with the advantage we've got.

06-25-2009, 10:29 AM	#692
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Or we can sit around and not say anything until the night deadline.

06-25-2009, 10:36 AM	#693
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	All right, since there's no discussion, how about this. I'm standing in front of a shimmering blue column, which I can enter. Should I enter it?

06-25-2009, 10:39 AM	#694
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	why not Pass, the worse it can do is kill you.

06-25-2009, 10:55 AM	#699
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Those votes are valid, FYI. You can vote anytime you want between lynch deadlines.

06-25-2009, 10:57 AM	#700
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	JAG 3 (nfg 662, BK 679, MartinD 683)

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