Werewolf LXII -- The BCS (Racer and Swaggs win)

[Mr. Wednesday]

VOTE NO SANCTIONS

[Racer]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

You never gave a reason for thinking its TWC thats all bad!

I think it's a possibility and it can easily be confirmed or proven not true by simply scanning you or ntndeacon. I am against scanning both of you. We would only be using 1 out of 3 scouts on the TWC. This of course is assuming we actually still have 3 good scouts. We're risking a lot to NOT scan ntndeacon when he is currently 5th in power points. We know #3 in power points is a Catholic and #4 in power points is a detractor so it makes sense to scan the top three unknowns in terms of power points (which are Chesapeake, ntndeacon, and myself).

By the way, I don't believe this was ever answered. Who is the saboteur in the Four Horsemen conference? It would be helpful to know who not to vote for on the final day.

[Alan T]

What a tough place everyone is in here.. Do you hunt down the catholics in order to allow the detractors to win?

You all seem to have a better idea of whom the detractors are, wouldn't you want to iron that out better so you make sure none of them get the at large bid?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Racer

We know ... #4 in power points is a detractor...

We do?

I can help out with that.

[claphamsa]

vote mr wednesday

[Racer]

I really hope the scouts coordinate something here in the last hour since they haven't so far.

[st.cronin]

I am scouting Racer for Catholic affiliation, fwiw.

[jeheinz72]

Vote Mr. Wednesday

PUBLIC POLL
1. jeheinz72
2. Anxiety
3. RendeR
4. SnDvls
5. Racer

[path12]

VOTE MR WEDNESDAY

Public Poll
1) Lathum
2) jeheinz
3) Molson
4) SnDvls
5) RendeR

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I am scouting Racer for Catholic affiliation, fwiw.

It's worth a lot, since you hate catholics, too. It just has to be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism.

[ntndeacon]

Public Poll
1. ntn
2. Claphamsa
3. chesapeake
4.jeheinz
5. Anxiety

[st.cronin]

PUBLIC POLL

1. st.cronin
2. molson
3. Lathum
4. Anxiety
5. SnDvls

[path12]

Originally Posted by Racer

I really hope the scouts coordinate something here in the last hour since they haven't so far.

I'm scanning ntn.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by path12

I'm scanning ntn.

If the Four Horsemen scout is on right now, I highly suggest you scout me then since Swaggs can't.

[Racer]

And hopefully Swaggs will scout Chesapeake.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Racer

If the Four Horsemen scout is on right now, I highly suggest you scout me then since Swaggs can't.

Cronin says he's scanning you. I'll go with what he says, but this way we get as many as possible rather than double checking his work even though he is the detractor.

[Lathum]

Lathum
Path
Molson
Clap
Barkeep

[Passacaglia]

Public Poll
1. Racer
2. jeheinz72
3. Lathum
4. ntndeacon
5. Anxiety
5. molson
5. SnDvls

Private Poll
1. st.cronin
2. Barkeep49
3. Alan T
4. Chief Rum
4. molson

[Passacaglia]

Day 6 Results

Mr. Wednesday LOSES TO claphamsa
ntndeacon DEFEATS st.cronin
Anxiety DEFEATS SnDvls
RendeR LOSES TO jeheinz72
chesapeake DEFEATS path12
Lathum DEFEATS molson
Racer DEFEATS Barkeep49
Chief Rum DEFEATS Swaggs
Alan T DEFEATS Team 30

[Passacaglia]

In response to the sabotage that's been going around, and the talk of teams leaving their conferences for various reasons, the BCS powerhouses meet again to discuss sanctions, agreeing on Mr. Wednesday as their target. However, again the small schools demand to be heard, and vote almost unanimously for Barkeep49 to receive sanctions.

[Passacaglia]

Computer Rankings
1. Racer 225
2. chesapeake 154
3. Mr. Wednesday 152
4. ntndeacon 138
5. jeheinz72 131
6. claphamsa 128
6. Chief Rum 128
8. Alan T 124
9. Barkeep49 96
10. Swaggs 93
11. Lathum 69
12. st.cronin 62
13. molson 55
14. SnDvls 30
15. Anxiety 29
16. path12 -10
16. RendeR -10

[Passacaglia]

BCS Rankings
1. Racer
2. Chief Rum
2. jeheinz72
4. ntndeacon
5. Lathum
6. chesapeake
6. molson

[Racer]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

In response to the sabotage that's been going around, and the talk of teams leaving their conferences for various reasons, the BCS powerhouses meet again to discuss sanctions, agreeing on Mr. Wednesday as their target. However, again the small schools demand to be heard, and vote almost unanimously for Barkeep49 to receive sanctions.

This is what I was really hoping for. Both Mr. Wednesday and Barkeep are lobbyists which means they can avoid the 50 point deduction if they want. Mr. Wednesday might get a power points hit from the detractors whereas Barkeep won't. Barkeep in my opinion was a better candidate for the sanctions but targeting him would have likely resulted in the sanctions being shifted to someone else (probably Mr. Wednesday, Chesapeake, or myself).

[Lathum]

1 God Damn point!!

[Passacaglia]

Fixed a small error with Notre Dame -- I forgot to give them a 15% bonus at the end of Day 4. No rankings were changed as a result (but Notre Dame gained 12 powerpoints).

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Fixed a small error with Notre Dame -- I forgot to give them a 15% bonus at the end of Day 4. No rankings were changed as a result (but Notre Dame gained 12 powerpoints).

The man, always trying to keep us down.

[path12]

Ntn is not a Catholic.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by path12

Ntn is not a Catholic.

I bet he is eastern orthodox. They're just as dangerous you know.

[Passacaglia]

Standings

Big 3
--------
Racer 2-0
Barkeep49 1-1
Chief Rum 1-1
Swaggs 0-2

Four Horsemen
----------------------
jeheinz72 2-0
Anxiety 1-1
SnDvls 1-1
RendeR 0-2

Sorry Excuse for Coaches
--------------------------------------
chesapeake 2-0
Lathum 2-0
molson 0-2
path12 0-2

Transylvania Werewolf Conference
-------------------------------------------------
claphamsa 2-0
ntndeacon 2-0
Mr. Wednesday 0-2
st.cronin 0-2

[Passacaglia]

Sorry Excuse for Coaches Outlook

We'll do the simplest first. The conference championship game will be between chesapeake and Lathum. They'll play a little scrimmage before for funsies.

[Passacaglia]

Transylvania Werewolf Conference Outlook

This one is just as simple, really. The conference title will go to the winner of the game between claphamsa and ntndeacon.

[Passacaglia]

Big 3 Outlook

Racer will play the winner of the game between Barkeep49 and Chief Rum in the championship game.

[Passacaglia]

Four Horsemen Outlook

If jeheinz72 beats SnDvls, then jeheinz72 wins the conference.
If SnDvls beats jeheinz72, and RendeR beats Anxiety, then SnDvls wins the conference based on a head-to-head tiebreaker with jeheinz72.
If SnDvls beats jeheinz72, and Anxiety beats RendeR, jeheinz72 wins the conference based on overall record.

[Passacaglia]

The following five people will play, or might play, in a conference championship game. Send me any conditional orders you'd like regarding throwing the game.

Berkeep49
chesapeake
Chief Rum
Lathum
Racer

[claphamsa]

So Im gonna go overthis formyself real quick! The detractors want an atlarge bid? winning the conference wont help them? the catholics just need a bid, so at large or winning the conferecne? Nd is just evil, and we need to keep the bad guys out of the bowls and ND form winning?

[Lathum]

what are my chances ate beating cchesapeak?

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Four Horsemen Outlook

If jeheinz72 beats SnDvls, then jeheinz72 wins the conference.
If SnDvls beats jeheinz72, and RendeR beats Anxiety, then SnDvls wins the conference based on a head-to-head tiebreaker with jeheinz72.
If SnDvls beats jeheinz72, and Anxiety beats RendeR, jeheinz72 wins the conference based on overall record.

well since RendeR can't beat Anxiety unless he throws the game and I can't win unless jeheinz throws the game this one is over

congrats jeheinz

[chesapeake]

Today's wolf victims: Chesapeake, Mr. W., ntndeacon, Claphamsa, Lathum.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

So Im gonna go overthis formyself real quick! The detractors want an atlarge bid? winning the conference wont help them? the catholics just need a bid, so at large or winning the conferecne? Nd is just evil, and we need to keep the bad guys out of the bowls and ND form winning?

The Catholics are vying for the at-large bid, just like everyone else (or getting ND in the national championship game).

[chesapeake]

According to Pass's post, #602, the Catholics need either ND to win the national championship or a Catholic school earning the BCS at-large bid. Winning the conference won't do it.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

So Im gonna go overthis formyself real quick! The detractors want an atlarge bid? winning the conference wont help them? the catholics just need a bid, so at large or winning the conferecne? Nd is just evil, and we need to keep the bad guys out of the bowls and ND form winning?

Originally Posted by Lathum

what are my chances ate beating cchesapeak?

If neither of you throw the game, you have a 31% chance of winning.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

So Im gonna go overthis formyself real quick! The detractors want an atlarge bid? winning the conference wont help them? the catholics just need a bid, so at large or winning the conferecne? Nd is just evil, and we need to keep the bad guys out of the bowls and ND form winning?

I am not evil, just misunderstood.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

Today's wolf victims: Chesapeake, Mr. W., ntndeacon, Claphamsa, Lathum.

2 sanctions this is what my 3rd wolf hit? and still in the top 6 BIZNATCHES!!!!

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

well since RendeR can't beat Anxiety unless he throws the game and I can't win unless jeheinz throws the game this one is over

congrats jeheinz

Remind me why it's good to win the conference again? I"m a good guy, isn't it best for me to get us the 2nd place spot?

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Remind me why it's good to win the conference again? I"m a good guy, isn't it best for me to get us the 2nd place spot?

no reason, just that there is no way for me to win unless a lot of behind the scenes stuff happens. which it appears in our conference hasn't or isn't happening

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Remind me why it's good to win the conference again? I"m a good guy, isn't it best for me to get us the 2nd place spot?

Because if you win the National Championship you win.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Because if you win the National Championship you win.

But I'd have to be the best conference winner to get that, right? I clearly won't be.

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

The Catholics are vying for the at-large bid, just like everyone else (or getting ND in the national championship game).

Post #602 definitely says that ND has to win the national championship. Has this changed?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by chesapeake

Post #602 definitely says that ND has to win the national championship. Has this changed?

Just bad phrasing on my part. They're trying to win it.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

But I'd have to be the best conference winner to get that, right? I clearly won't be.

You'd have to be top 2 in BCS ranking to get to the championship game, which seems quite doable for you.