Werewolf LVIII: Clash of the Gods (GAME OVER)

[Poli]

1) Render
2) Barkeep Lathum
3) Chief Rum ntndeacon
4) PurdueBrad Arlington Colt
5) St.Cronin ntndeacon
6) Neon_Chaos Can't vote?
7) Lathum Arlington Colt
8) ntndeacon Racer
9) ArlingtonColt Lathum
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle
12) Hoopsguy Can't Vote?
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety ntndeacon
15) Ardent_Enthusiast Lathum
16) Racer ntndeacon
17) DaddyTorgo ntndeacon
18) Raiders Army Lathum
19) Schmidty Arlington Colt

(no particular order)
Arlington Colt: Lathum, Purdue Brad, Schmidty
Ntndeacon: Racer, Anxiety, Daddy Torgo, CR, cronin
Lathum: Arlington Colt, AE, BK, RA
Racer: ntndeacon

Has render not voted yet?

[Chief Rum]

I don't believe so. And where is Telle? Has she been aorund at all today? I guess we can ask Render that, too, while we're wondering about his vote.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I know you were leading us away from BK. I'm not as convinced that just voting for path clears anybody. With the way the votes work, I think its possible that the wolves might take a chance that they could push the vote behind the scenes.

I think it's entirely possible the wolves felt I was lynched. Through path and/or some other Titan they had put multiple points on me. Plus I was the the leading vote getter. Even with my putting 4 votes on path it wouldn't be enough to overcome the sheer number of people voting for me. Little did they know that DT would, for reasons which while explained don't quite add up, also way pump up his voting. So I think it's entirely possible that the Titans simply wanted to use their AP for other things than saving path, not realizing what danger he was in. They were, to choose an answer from my list, complacent and it bit them on the ass.

So, I can't disagree with cronin here, since voting for path should have been "safe". That said, I tend to trust Render a step above. He wouldn't be in a CoT for me, but he'd standing real close to it.

I maintain that Lathum could have put the vote on my early, and didn't have to switch later on as I drew more suspicion, despite there being a shift towards path.

[Barkeep49]

DT, when you get back, can you walk me through why you increased the increased points on path? I just don't understand your reasoning.

[RendeR]

Not yet.

I'm torn, i really don't like any of the high vote getters for choices right now.

AC gets at least a 1 day pass from me for the reveal.
Lathum I just don't believe is a titan.
NTN is a choice, but I really haven't seen anything that compelling to warrent so many votes either.
Racer I've been suspicious of from the get go so I'm gonna go that way, perhaps we can pull a couple over to him and save people I feel strongly are villagers.

VOTE RACER

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by RendeR

BK had some points that would throw a bad light on Lathum. Personally I disagree and think Lathum was just arguing an opposite side to BK because they tend to butt heads that way.

I have to say I'm happy that you see that experienced players will go after each other if the situation warrants.

[Barkeep49]

I have to admit I'd like to hear more from telle. She placed the should have been nail in my coffin yesterday. I'm curious to see what happens with her closer to deadline today.

[Poli]

1) Render Racer
2) Barkeep Lathum
3) Chief Rum ntndeacon
4) PurdueBrad Arlington Colt
5) St.Cronin ntndeacon
6) Neon_Chaos Can't vote?
7) Lathum Arlington Colt
8) ntndeacon Racer
9) ArlingtonColt Lathum
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle
12) Hoopsguy Can't Vote?
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety ntndeacon
15) Ardent_Enthusiast Lathum
16) Racer ntndeacon
17) DaddyTorgo ntndeacon
18) Raiders Army Lathum
19) Schmidty Arlington Colt

(no particular order)
Arlington Colt: Lathum, Purdue Brad, Schmidty
Ntndeacon: Racer, Anxiety, Daddy Torgo, CR, cronin
Lathum: Arlington Colt, AE, BK, RA
Racer: ntndeacon, render

This is going to be interesting. I'm here for the next hour until "Life" comes on. There's apparently no must see tv for this hour of the night in my home.

[Poli]

Yeah, I've been around all day (lucky me), but I haven't seen Telle...at all.

And I know I just saw hoopsguy again.

[Telle]

I've been ill and haven't been on all today. Can someone give me a quick recap??

[Barkeep49]

See post 658 for a very helpful vote summary.

[Barkeep49]

AE is the only person we know powering up their vote today, correct? If true Lathum has a fairly substantial lead.

[Poli]

I'm not sure I can do that, but CR commented that ntn and arlington might be questionable.

AC gave a role reveal.

Umm, Votes are about 3 posts above this one.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

See post 658 for a very helpful vote summary.

Thanks. Any particular compelling arguments regarding the vote leaders? I really don't have the wherewithal to dig through pages of posts right now.. I pretty much just want to get a vote in and then go curl up on the couch again.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

AE is the only person we know powering up their vote today, correct? If true Lathum has a fairly substantial lead.

No, we have to give 1 AP, don't we? That's all I'm doing.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I have to say I'm happy that you see that experienced players will go after each other if the situation warrants.

umm, I think my normal position is that you all do that to much

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

No, we have to give 1 AP, don't we? That's all I'm doing.

My bad. So is there anyone known to be powering up their vote?

[Poli]

Not that I recall. I think I'd remember something like that.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by RendeR

umm, I think my normal position is that you all do that to much

Wait? You think experienced players go after experienced players? I thought it was that we went after people who weren't in "the elite". Frankly I think the whole thing is bunk to begin with, but one could argue I'm biased...

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Telle

Thanks. Any particular compelling arguments regarding the vote leaders? I really don't have the wherewithal to dig through pages of posts right now.. I pretty much just want to get a vote in and then go curl up on the couch again.

Lath = Very wrong day 1

Not sure what the charge is against ntn which is why I haven't voted for him

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Lath = Very wrong day 1

Not sure what the charge is against ntn which is why I haven't voted for him

Well ntn is historically very quiet, which is usually why people vote for him. But I recall him being pretty active yesterday.. which is kind of out of character for him.

[Lathum]

OK, I just got caught up

UNVOTE ARLINGTONCOLT
VOTE NTNDEACON

I am still considering revealing because I am worried about people using multiple action points ( Barkeep)

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, I just got caught up


I am still considering revealing because I am worried about people using multiple action points ( Barkeep)

I hope its not going to be like AC's "reveal." If so, I'll reveal too: I'M A VILLAGER.

[Racer]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

After looking through the people voting for someone other than Barkeep or path I have a couple of observations...

First, I do not know whether it is just not knowing a lot about the game or nerves or that he is a Titan or a bad guy at least. Racer seems to be throwing out there some highly questionable things out there. For example what seems to me to be the main reason he is voting for me is that I voted along with path. There may be one other bad guy in the group who voted for BK but I kinda doubt it at the moment, and certainly not ALL of those that voted with path could be guilty. Note also that mine was the very first vote on Barkeep when it was a two man race. I will also note that Racer has been under the radar quite a bit.

I was a little surprised to seeing posts from cronin so little on the first day, but at the moment am just attributing that to him being busy as it seems he has started to post more today.

I am not sure what to make of RA and AE right now. If I had to choose early in the day if one was bad, I would have chosen AE,,, now not as sure. Of course the helpful wolf has been played before.


So after due thought and careful deliberation I will

Vote Racer

I agree that there is no way everyone in that group is a Titan. However, I think Chief Rum's analysis from earlier is about the best thing we have to go on at the moment. Combined with my opinion that you were a bit under the radar earlier I went with you.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, I just got caught up

UNVOTE ARLINGTONCOLT
VOTE NTNDEACON

I am still considering revealing because I am worried about people using multiple action points ( Barkeep)

If it makes you feel better you should now that I plan to use my action today to the fullest extent possible.

[Lathum]

sigh...

gonna reveal in 3 minutes unless someone changes.

Which is what I think Barkeep want me to do BTW...

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Telle

Well ntn is historically very quiet, which is usually why people vote for him. But I recall him being pretty active yesterday.. which is kind of out of character for him.

I agree ntn was uncharacteristically active yesterday which was nice to see.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

sigh...

gonna reveal in 3 minutes unless someone changes.

Which is what I think Barkeep want me to do BTW...

The thing is I kind of don't believe any role reveals at this point so no I don't really want you to reveal. I don't feel so great about my vote today, just that you're the best candidate out there.

[Poli]

1) Render Racer
2) Barkeep Lathum
3) Chief Rum ntndeacon
4) PurdueBrad Arlington Colt
5) St.Cronin ntndeacon
6) Neon_Chaos Can't vote?
7) Lathum ntndeacon
8) ntndeacon Racer
9) ArlingtonColt Lathum
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle
12) Hoopsguy Can't Vote?
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety ntndeacon
15) Ardent_Enthusiast Lathum
16) Racer ntndeacon
17) DaddyTorgo ntndeacon
18) Raiders Army Lathum
19) Schmidty Arlington Colt

(no particular order)
Arlington Colt: Purdue Brad, Schmidty
Ntndeacon: Racer, Anxiety, Daddy Torgo, CR, cronin, lathum
Lathum: Arlington Colt, AE, BK, RA
Racer: ntndeacon, render

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Lathum

sigh...

gonna reveal in 3 minutes unless someone changes.

Which is what I think Barkeep want me to do BTW...

Don't do it.

[Telle]

On the off chance that Lathum does actually have something worth revealing, I'll put my vote elsewhere..

VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

You all have a lovely night, and hopefully I'll be feeling better and more engaged tomorrow.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Don't do it.

why not?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Telle

On the off chance that Lathum does actually have something worth revealing, I'll put my vote elsewhere..

VOTE ARLINGTONCOLT

You all have a lovely night, and hopefully I'll be feeling better and more engaged tomorrow.

huh?


NTNDeacon is where you should go then

[Barkeep49]

Yeah I don't think Telle realized that AC revealed.

[Lathum]

giving it 2 more minutes

[Chief Rum]

I am stepping out until after the deadline. Have to get my workout in and get some dinner. Good luck, Olympians!

[Lathum]

ok

I am Heracles, strongest of the humans.

I'm the bodyguard. I was hoping not to have to reveal.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Yeah I don't think Telle realized that AC revealed.

Come on, he did no such thing. He claimed to be a villager.

[Barkeep49]

I just find it disturbing how many people are revealing so easily. Alan has said mass reveal would be disastrous. Yet we get reveal after reveal. Leads me to believe more and more that the Titans can easily fake reveal and that only reveals accompanied by actions should be believed.

[Lathum]

Dola- I think it's best I keep to myself who visited me last night. If that person wants to come forward I will confirm their statement.

[Poli]

Shoot.

UNVOTE LATHUM.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I just find it disturbing how many people are revealing so easily. Alan has said mass reveal would be disastrous. Yet we get reveal after reveal. Leads me to believe more and more that the Titans can easily fake reveal and that only reveals accompanied by actions should be believed.

Well when someone ( YOU ) forces my hand what should I do?

Basicly I need to reveal and hope for the best.

[RendeR]

I really don't think lathum is a god vote.

BK: If yer not certain about it I'd suggest moving off him for now. Join me on Racer and lets see what happens.

[Poli]

VOTE NTNDEACON

[Barkeep49]

Lathum not claiming to be an olympian is reassuring.

[Poli]

1) Render Racer
2) Barkeep Lathum
3) Chief Rum ntndeacon
4) PurdueBrad Arlington Colt
5) St.Cronin ntndeacon
6) Neon_Chaos Can't vote?
7) Lathum ntndeacon
8) ntndeacon Racer
9) ArlingtonColt Lathum
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle ArlingtonColt
12) Hoopsguy Can't Vote?
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety ntndeacon
15) Ardent_Enthusiast ntndeacon
16) Racer ntndeacon
17) DaddyTorgo ntndeacon
18) Raiders Army Lathum
19) Schmidty Arlington Colt

(no particular order)
Arlington Colt: Purdue Brad, Schmidty
Ntndeacon: Racer, Anxiety, Daddy Torgo, CR, cronin, lathum, AE
Lathum: Arlington Colt, BK, RA
Racer: ntndeacon, render

[Barkeep49]

Can I get a vote count?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I just find it disturbing how many people are revealing so easily. Alan has said mass reveal would be disastrous. Yet we get reveal after reveal. Leads me to believe more and more that the Titans can easily fake reveal and that only reveals accompanied by actions should be believed.

+1

[Barkeep49]

Wow AE anticipating my every need.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Lathum not claiming to be an olympian is reassuring.

lol.

Yeah, losing the bodyguard is much more reassuring.