Football Manager 2014 - Full Game Out Now! - Page 14

Glengoyne · 06-29-2014, 11:54 AM

So here is the situation... I have FM2013 sitting unplayed because I couldn't walk away from my 2012 Crystal Palace side...and FM2014 is now on sale for $12.

Now I'm looking to start a new team in a new edition of the game, so should I dive into FM2013 or just get the upgrade?

bulletsponge · 06-29-2014, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glengoyne

So here is the situation... I have FM2013 sitting unplayed because I couldn't walk away from my 2012 Crystal Palace side...and FM2014 is now on sale for $12.

Now I'm looking to start a new team in a new edition of the game, so should I dive into FM2013 or just get the upgrade?

well if you held out for this long, maybe wait 3 more months and get fm 15

Abe Sargent · 06-29-2014, 12:16 PM

Yeah, but that won't be this cheap though...

DaddyTorgo · 06-29-2014, 12:31 PM

Trying to remember what the significant differences between 14 and 13 were...

Ryan S · 06-29-2014, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Trying to remember what the significant differences between 14 and 13 were...

If you play FM Classic it is much better. No three league max, no player limit.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 06-29-2014, 02:34 PM

I'm not sure if this was removed or not. I used to love in the older versions of the game where it had the green and red arrows next to each stat so you could see how a player's skills were trending. I can't seem to find that anywhere in the new versions of the game. Anyone know if there's a place to show that or make it visible?

JPhillips · 06-29-2014, 02:44 PM

That's still there. You access it through the training window for each player.

Abe Sargent · 06-29-2014, 04:45 PM

Just found one of my favorite names for a newgen:

Carlos Centurión

I almost want to sign him for the name alone.

Young Drachma · 06-29-2014, 06:34 PM

Finally got FM14.

FrogMan · 06-30-2014, 11:16 AM

picked it up as part of the Steam Summer sale and after not even touching FM2013, I decided to start a career with it. Very impressed with how it looks and feels, this game has evolved so much...

Started unemployed and passed a good number of jobs. The manager of my beloved Luton Town got in trouble, lost his job but they didn't replace him right away and despite my telling them I was really interested in the job, they ended up keeping the replacement manager.

A month later, the job at QPR came open and that's where I will start my career, in March 2014. Lots of simming has been done, will kinda give the world a life of its own before I start digging in.

FM

Easy Mac · 06-30-2014, 11:37 AM

Marc or someone else, do we know why the American Developmental League is hardcoded as the 2nd division in the US? It's not a huge deal when trying to make a somewhat accurate league structure for the US, but it is an annoyance.

AnalBumCover · 06-30-2014, 10:00 PM

Anyone know of a good robust alternate universe US league out there for FM14?

bhlloy · 07-01-2014, 12:56 AM

It's pretty amazing given how good and realistic FM is that they still haven't squashed the bug that means nobody ever misses in a shoot out. I've never seen less than 8-7 with one guy missing I don't think in 400+ hours of playing

That and all the crossbars really stand out as sore thumbs when I think of the last 5-6 versions of the game and both seem like they would be really minor tweaks to make

Glengoyne · 07-01-2014, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan S

If you play FM Classic it is much better. No three league max, no player limit.

It was the FM Classic stuff that sealed the deal for buying 14. I had a lot of fun with 2006. Back when all we had were dots, and it was all ....well there seemed to be fewer things to deal with. I'll be trying FM Classic in the upcoming weeks.

Fidatelo · 07-01-2014, 07:55 AM

FM Classic loses me right off the hop because I can't use fake players. I always use fake players in my sim sports and I don't understand why Classic omits that option.

Abe Sargent · 07-01-2014, 09:49 AM

The book, "Football Manager Stole My LIfe" just arrived in my mailbox. I am really looking forward to reading it!

I'll read it as I play my latest dynasty to restore Sporting Lisbon's prominence in Portugal after it was relegated to the Secunda Liga....

cody8200 · 07-01-2014, 09:57 AM

Damn. Missed the sale. I had tried buying it yesterday morning for $12.50 on steampowered.com at work and it kept giving me an error. Oh well, there's always next year.

Ramzavail · 07-01-2014, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

FM Classic loses me right off the hop because I can't use fake players. I always use fake players in my sim sports and I don't understand why Classic omits that option.

ugh really? I was just about to try that tonight. (after getting suckered into the steam summer sale

)

Easy Mac · 07-01-2014, 11:09 AM

For FM classic, people should just download CM 01/02 and use the data updates. Not perfect, but its definitely a simpler time.

Championship Manager 2001/2002 Website

flere-imsaho · 07-01-2014, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo

FM Classic loses me right off the hop because I can't use fake players. I always use fake players in my sim sports and I don't understand why Classic omits that option.

I love and enjoy FMC, but this is definitely an option I'd like.

Another option I'd like would be the ability to add a player or two to the database (even via some sort of restricted wizard, so you can't "see" the database, if that's necessary).

I know you can purchase "Get your son into football", but the results are kind of random. I used to enjoy creating each of my sons into the database with world-class PA, just to see what they'd do (since I always play starting in the lower leagues, they're never on my team anyway).

I'd definitely pay money for the latter option.

SirFozzie · 07-01-2014, 12:04 PM

You know you can do that with the FM Editor, right?

flere-imsaho · 07-01-2014, 12:40 PM

I do not believe you can use the FM Editor on the database used for FMC, but I could be wrong....

Barkeep49 · 07-01-2014, 12:41 PM

How do you get to the FM Editor if you've bought it in steam?

flere-imsaho · 07-01-2014, 12:43 PM

In the past it was a separate (free) download from the Steam "tools" library or something like that.

I'm not in front of Steam right now to say for sure.

AnalBumCover · 07-01-2014, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

In the past it was a separate (free) download from the Steam "tools" library or something like that.

I'm not in front of Steam right now to say for sure.

I'm not in front of Steam either, but I think I saw it as an additional charge, $5.95 or something.

Coffee Warlord · 07-01-2014, 01:06 PM

The base FM Editor (aka the one where you edit the DB before you start a game) is free.

The in-game editor is the one that costs money, though there's a free, less polished one available as well.

Young Drachma · 07-01-2014, 01:08 PM

FMRTE is nice. FM Scout is also useful.

AnalBumCover · 07-01-2014, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

The base FM Editor (aka the one where you edit the DB before you start a game) is free.

The in-game editor is the one that costs money, though there's a free, less polished one available as well.

Ahh, that's the difference.

flere-imsaho · 07-01-2014, 02:07 PM

I didn't think either of those editors worked on FMC, though....

Coffee Warlord · 07-01-2014, 02:08 PM

That, I do not know.

flere-imsaho · 07-01-2014, 02:14 PM

Well, find out.

Scholes · 07-01-2014, 07:12 PM

Ummm...

tucker rocky · 07-01-2014, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scholes

Ummm...

DaddyTorgo · 07-01-2014, 07:40 PM

That's one young looking 68 year old

flere-imsaho · 07-02-2014, 10:17 AM

PilotMan · 07-06-2014, 05:00 PM

It's late in 2021 and we have been playing solid football all year. This has been the best season that Larne have managed to put together. A combination of youngsters developing and an attacking front line benefited by a 433 formation have vaulted us toward the top of the league. We've won the Antrim County Shield and the League Cup already this year, but it hasn't impressed the board.

Linfield, those devils, are also playing top drawer stuff. We have been chasing them down and with 8 games to play had reeled them in to second. Linfield, as has been well documented here, have just killed us for years, but this year has been different.

We just went on the road and dismantled them 6-0 to jump them into first with 7 games to play. Take that! Larne have clearly been the best in the Dankse Premier with only 3 losses and a +43 goal differential. I only hope we can hold and and complete the task. Linfield had won 6 straight. We outshot them 19-2.

PilotMan · 07-06-2014, 05:32 PM

And surprise! We will play Linfield in the Northern Irish Cup Semi-Final. I think it'll be the 34th time we've played them now. A good 10 times more than any other team.

cubboyroy1826 · 07-06-2014, 08:42 PM

Where is a good place to find out the skills that are important for each position?

flere-imsaho · 07-07-2014, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubboyroy1826

Where is a good place to find out the skills that are important for each position?

Do you mean besides using the little menu on the player's page (in the attributes section) that will highlight important attributes for each role?

cubboyroy1826 · 07-07-2014, 10:35 AM

I know a couple versions ago (may be even more than a couple) there was kind of a dummies or beginners guide that broke out each position. I just started tinkering around with the game over the weekend and will have to check out the little menu you mentioned. Thanks,

PilotMan · 07-07-2014, 10:49 AM

Try this.

The internet has some awesome resources for FM.

Football Manager Basics: Player Attributes and Roles Explained

flere-imsaho · 07-07-2014, 10:50 AM

Marc Vaughan's guide from 2008 is still pretty good as an overview, look at page 11 for the info you're talking about: http://mrdaniels.files.wordpress.com...s_and_tips.pdf

This site is also pretty decent: Roles & Duties | Football Manager 2014 Guide

Shepp · 07-07-2014, 08:03 PM

If you look at a player, under the Overview/Attributes tab there is a filter in the top right corner called "Highlight Attributes for Roll" that will highlight the important attributes for every position.

cubboyroy1826 · 07-07-2014, 08:17 PM

Nice guys thanks a lot. There was so much out there I was just hoping for a couple good sites that others use. I really appreciate it. Watching the little dudes run around is so cool.

FrogMan · 07-07-2014, 08:22 PM

dang, I've been away from this game for so long, forgot how addictive it can be. Just managed my first two games at QPR and I'm hooked back in, but overwhelmed quite a bit, so much to look at!

Q #1 of a million: There are no reserve teams in England anymore?

I see most of my unwanted players are listed with the U21 squad, even though many are like 34 or 35...

FM

MrBug708 · 07-08-2014, 12:47 AM

The reserves is basically the U21

bhlloy · 07-08-2014, 12:57 AM

However, there is a key difference in that there are a significant age limitations as to who can play in the reserves league, which didn't use to be the case in FM as far as I remember.

As with most everything in FM I believe this is true to real life.

Jon · 07-08-2014, 01:53 AM

How do I change the attribute bars back to the numerical ratings?

I don't know how I changed it in the first place, and can't change it back.

Barkeep49 · 07-08-2014, 08:11 AM

Here's my current frustration. Last season I added 1 new player to my team. I had 4 leave, but I had too many on the roster anyway and only 1 received playing time and that was only 3(4). Yet despite that it's like I'm starting over with my tactics. The same players running the same tactics should have some sort of major headstart I would think.

Coffee Warlord · 07-08-2014, 08:41 AM

Yeah, I get the same thing. Field a small number of new players, and all of a sudden your tactical knowledge just plummets. Rather annoying.

06-29-2014, 12:16 PM	#653
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Yeah, but that won't be this cheap though... __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-29-2014, 02:44 PM	#657
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	That's still there. You access it through the training window for each player. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

06-29-2014, 04:45 PM	#658
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Just found one of my favorite names for a newgen: Carlos Centurión I almost want to sign him for the name alone. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent Last edited by Abe Sargent : 06-29-2014 at 04:45 PM.

06-29-2014, 06:34 PM	#659
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Finally got FM14. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

06-30-2014, 11:16 AM	#660
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	picked it up as part of the Steam Summer sale and after not even touching FM2013, I decided to start a career with it. Very impressed with how it looks and feels, this game has evolved so much... Started unemployed and passed a good number of jobs. The manager of my beloved Luton Town got in trouble, lost his job but they didn't replace him right away and despite my telling them I was really interested in the job, they ended up keeping the replacement manager. A month later, the job at QPR came open and that's where I will start my career, in March 2014. Lots of simming has been done, will kinda give the world a life of its own before I start digging in. FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

06-29-2014, 11:54 AM	#651
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	So here is the situation... I have FM2013 sitting unplayed because I couldn't walk away from my 2012 Crystal Palace side...and FM2014 is now on sale for $12. Now I'm looking to start a new team in a new edition of the game, so should I dive into FM2013 or just get the upgrade?

06-29-2014, 12:31 PM	#654
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Trying to remember what the significant differences between 14 and 13 were...

06-29-2014, 02:34 PM	#656
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	I'm not sure if this was removed or not. I used to love in the older versions of the game where it had the green and red arrows next to each stat so you could see how a player's skills were trending. I can't seem to find that anywhere in the new versions of the game. Anyone know if there's a place to show that or make it visible?

06-30-2014, 11:37 AM	#661
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Marc or someone else, do we know why the American Developmental League is hardcoded as the 2nd division in the US? It's not a huge deal when trying to make a somewhat accurate league structure for the US, but it is an annoyance.

06-30-2014, 10:00 PM	#662
AnalBumCover College Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: La Mirada, CA	Anyone know of a good robust alternate universe US league out there for FM14?

07-01-2014, 12:56 AM	#663
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	It's pretty amazing given how good and realistic FM is that they still haven't squashed the bug that means nobody ever misses in a shoot out. I've never seen less than 8-7 with one guy missing I don't think in 400+ hours of playing That and all the crossbars really stand out as sore thumbs when I think of the last 5-6 versions of the game and both seem like they would be really minor tweaks to make

07-01-2014, 07:55 AM	#665
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	FM Classic loses me right off the hop because I can't use fake players. I always use fake players in my sim sports and I don't understand why Classic omits that option. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

07-01-2014, 09:49 AM	#666
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	The book, "Football Manager Stole My LIfe" just arrived in my mailbox. I am really looking forward to reading it! I'll read it as I play my latest dynasty to restore Sporting Lisbon's prominence in Portugal after it was relegated to the Secunda Liga.... __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-01-2014, 09:57 AM	#667
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	Damn. Missed the sale. I had tried buying it yesterday morning for $12.50 on steampowered.com at work and it kept giving me an error. Oh well, there's always next year.

07-01-2014, 11:09 AM	#669
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	For FM classic, people should just download CM 01/02 and use the data updates. Not perfect, but its definitely a simpler time. Championship Manager 2001/2002 Website

07-01-2014, 12:04 PM	#671
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	You know you can do that with the FM Editor, right? __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

07-01-2014, 12:40 PM	#672
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I do not believe you can use the FM Editor on the database used for FMC, but I could be wrong....

07-01-2014, 12:41 PM	#673
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	How do you get to the FM Editor if you've bought it in steam?

07-01-2014, 12:43 PM	#674
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	In the past it was a separate (free) download from the Steam "tools" library or something like that. I'm not in front of Steam right now to say for sure.

07-01-2014, 01:06 PM	#676
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	The base FM Editor (aka the one where you edit the DB before you start a game) is free. The in-game editor is the one that costs money, though there's a free, less polished one available as well.

07-01-2014, 01:08 PM	#677
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	FMRTE is nice. FM Scout is also useful. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

07-01-2014, 02:07 PM	#679
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I didn't think either of those editors worked on FMC, though....

07-01-2014, 02:08 PM	#680
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	That, I do not know.

07-01-2014, 02:14 PM	#681
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Well, find out.

07-01-2014, 07:12 PM	#682
Scholes High School Varsity Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Paul, MN	Ummm...

07-01-2014, 07:40 PM	#684
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	That's one young looking 68 year old

07-02-2014, 10:17 AM	#685
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Wow!

07-06-2014, 05:00 PM	#686
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	It's late in 2021 and we have been playing solid football all year. This has been the best season that Larne have managed to put together. A combination of youngsters developing and an attacking front line benefited by a 433 formation have vaulted us toward the top of the league. We've won the Antrim County Shield and the League Cup already this year, but it hasn't impressed the board. Linfield, those devils, are also playing top drawer stuff. We have been chasing them down and with 8 games to play had reeled them in to second. Linfield, as has been well documented here, have just killed us for years, but this year has been different. We just went on the road and dismantled them 6-0 to jump them into first with 7 games to play. Take that! Larne have clearly been the best in the Dankse Premier with only 3 losses and a +43 goal differential. I only hope we can hold and and complete the task. Linfield had won 6 straight. We outshot them 19-2. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam Last edited by PilotMan : 07-06-2014 at 05:01 PM.

07-06-2014, 05:32 PM	#687
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	And surprise! We will play Linfield in the Northern Irish Cup Semi-Final. I think it'll be the 34th time we've played them now. A good 10 times more than any other team. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-06-2014, 08:42 PM	#688
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Where is a good place to find out the skills that are important for each position?

07-07-2014, 10:35 AM	#690
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	I know a couple versions ago (may be even more than a couple) there was kind of a dummies or beginners guide that broke out each position. I just started tinkering around with the game over the weekend and will have to check out the little menu you mentioned. Thanks,

07-07-2014, 10:49 AM	#691
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Try this. The internet has some awesome resources for FM. Football Manager Basics: Player Attributes and Roles Explained __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-07-2014, 10:50 AM	#692
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Marc Vaughan's guide from 2008 is still pretty good as an overview, look at page 11 for the info you're talking about: http://mrdaniels.files.wordpress.com...s_and_tips.pdf This site is also pretty decent: Roles & Duties \| Football Manager 2014 Guide

07-07-2014, 08:03 PM	#693
Shepp High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA	If you look at a player, under the Overview/Attributes tab there is a filter in the top right corner called "Highlight Attributes for Roll" that will highlight the important attributes for every position. Last edited by Shepp : 07-07-2014 at 09:51 PM.

07-07-2014, 08:17 PM	#694
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Nice guys thanks a lot. There was so much out there I was just hoping for a couple good sites that others use. I really appreciate it. Watching the little dudes run around is so cool.