Werewolf XLIII - The Big City (Game over) - Page 14

st.cronin · 02-27-2007, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I think there is still the possibility that there was/will be a kill.

I think that, since there is no designated night period, a kill could come at any time.

I suppose.

Barkeep49 · 02-27-2007, 10:06 PM

I agree that it's possible for us to have a night kill, which simply hasn't happened yet, owing to the 24 hour cycles.

hoopsguy · 02-27-2007, 10:07 PM

Voting analysis around Ntndeacon down the stretch:

Four votes already on Ntndeacon prior to Post #479, three in last 40 minutes (Barkeep40, Tyrith, Anxiety)
Post #479 News report of crime
Post #480 hoopsguy = victim
Post #496 DaddyTorgo votes Ntndeacon
Post #515 Ntndeacon says that he believes detectives cannot communicate with each other
Post #523 Ntndeacon says that someone will investigate my report (communicating to other detectives)
Post #530 Daddy unvotes Ntndeacon, changes to Marathoner
Post #558 ImTheCrew votes Ntndeacon, no reason
Post #559 Swaggs votes Ntndeacon, looking to prevent tie (6th vote, none with more than 2 at that time)
Post #570 Jonathan Ezarik votes for ImTheCrew with 6-4 vote at the time between Ntndeacon and Bsak16
Post #572 Ntndeacon says he made strong hint of who he was
Post #577 path12 votes for Bsak16, closing gap to 6-5 with 8 minutes to go

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Since your private goal can't be met, can you tell us what it was?

I was looking for a certain type of ring/diamond, one that if i found and purchased would have helped me immensely in reaching my goals...since i plan on vacating this job now, i wont give away what the ring is or what it does in case someone else wants the job...but since i now have no money, i can no longer purchase the item. Whoever stole the money from me, you just screwed a good guy..one that could potentially have been helpful.

Swaggs · 02-27-2007, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I agree that it's possible for us to have a night kill, which simply hasn't happened yet, owing to the 24 hour cycles.

Or reported...

DaddyTorgo · 02-27-2007, 10:08 PM

I unvoted NTN because he stated that he believed that I was good FYI

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:10 PM

I still 99.9% believe cronin is evil and needs to die...today made me even more sure of this fact...but take it for what it is, a hunch

Swaggs · 02-27-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I was looking for a certain type of ring/diamond, one that if i found and purchased would have helped me immensely in reaching my goals...since i plan on vacating this job now, i wont give away what the ring is or what it does in case someone else wants the job...but since i now have no money, i can no longer purchase the item. Whoever stole the money from me, you just screwed a good guy..one that could potentially have been helpful.

Odd point of contention to bring up the issue that whoever stole the money screwed a good guy and one that could be helpful.

You do realize that pickpockets are not on our side, don't you? Would you expect them to want to help us out?

ImTheCrew · 02-27-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Voting analysis around Ntndeacon down the stretch:

Four votes already on Ntndeacon prior to Post #479, three in last 40 minutes (Barkeep40, Tyrith, Anxiety)
Post #479 News report of crime
Post #480 hoopsguy = victim
Post #496 DaddyTorgo votes Ntndeacon
Post #515 Ntndeacon says that he believes detectives cannot communicate with each other
Post #523 Ntndeacon says that someone will investigate my report (communicating to other detectives)
Post #530 Daddy unvotes Ntndeacon, changes to Marathoner
Post #558 ImTheCrew votes Ntndeacon, no reason
Post #559 Swaggs votes Ntndeacon, looking to prevent tie (6th vote, none with more than 2 at that time)
Post #570 Jonathan Ezarik votes for ImTheCrew with 6-4 vote at the time between Ntndeacon and Bsak16
Post #572 Ntndeacon says he made strong hint of who he was
Post #577 path12 votes for Bsak16, closing gap to 6-5 with 8 minutes to go

i missed post 570,572,577 otherwise i would have swichted my vote to bsak

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Odd point of contention to bring up the issue that whoever stole the money screwed a good guy and one that could be helpful.

You do realize that pickpockets are not on our side, don't you? Would you expect them to want to help us out?

Where does it say there not on our side? I see them listed in their own section, but i dont see them saying their not good?

Barkeep49 · 02-27-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Odd point of contention to bring up the issue that whoever stole the money screwed a good guy and one that could be helpful.

You do realize that pickpockets are not on our side, don't you? Would you expect them to want to help us out?

I thought something similar. There's a benign and malevolent explanation for this.

ImTheCrew · 02-27-2007, 10:12 PM

i didnt even realize the voting was that close

st.cronin · 02-27-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I still 99.9% believe cronin is evil and needs to die...today made me even more sure of this fact...but take it for what it is, a hunch

I think you make this post once per WW game. Do you have a macro function for it on your pc?

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I thought something similar. There's a benign and malevolent explanation for this.

Show me where it says their not good...it says their shady, not nuetral

Dr. Sak · 02-27-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I still 99.9% believe cronin is evil and needs to die...today made me even more sure of this fact...but take it for what it is, a hunch

You gotta have more than a hunch on why he is evil.

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think you make this post once per WW game. Do you have a macro function for it on your pc?

I actually havent made this claim in over 4 games...i just went back and checked for my records...so maybe the macro function is you trying to blow off my correct accusation

Swaggs · 02-27-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Where does it say there not on our side? I see them listed in their own section, but i dont see them saying their not good?

They are listed among "The Shady" on the front page, along with "Thugs" and "Hackers." At best, I'd say they are out for their individual interests. At worst, I would guess they can be hired by mafia members to do their legwork.

Barkeep49 · 02-27-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Show me where it says their not good...it says their shady, not nuetral

Oh I agree that the shady characters aren't bad. But I think it's unlikely that they would feel a pang of remorse about stealing from a villager.

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

You gotta have more than a hunch on why he is evil.

Well, i didnt help the group kill our police detective...so id say my hunches should be viewed better then most right now.

Abe Sargent · 02-27-2007, 10:17 PM

I just want to say that I am a huge fan of the Underground Msg Board already! Adds a very good element to the game!

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Oh I agree that the shady characters aren't bad. But I think it's unlikely that they would feel a pang of remorse about stealing from a villager.

Swaggs, and you, both clearly said they werent good...we had such roles in jack the ripper, and they were on the side of good. Being devious, and working for their own goals to some extent, doesnt make them evil. So my point, which both of you frowned upon, is valid

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I just want to say that I am a huge fan of the Underground Msg Board already! Adds a very good element to the game!

Im finding it adds an interesting mechanic to the gameplay

Swaggs · 02-27-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Swaggs, and you, both clearly said they werent good...we had such roles in jack the ripper, and they were on the side of good. Being devious, and working for their own goals to some extent, doesnt make them evil. So my point, which both of you frowned upon, is valid

I'll just point out that I disagree and leave it at that, since there is really nothing to gain from this line of discussion.

ImTheCrew · 02-27-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

They are listed among "The Shady" on the front page, along with "Thugs" and "Hackers." At best, I'd say they are out for their individual interests. At worst, I would guess they can be hired by mafia members to do their legwork.

you would think a pickpocketer would be a bad guy how could he help the good side in anyway?

Other thought he could be neutral, just to gain for himself

Dr. Sak · 02-27-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I just want to say that I am a huge fan of the Underground Msg Board already! Adds a very good element to the game!

Yeah. It seems to me that someone here is a lot richer than they are making themselves out to be.

path12 · 02-27-2007, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Path12 asked earlier if I could ID the detective and the answer is no,

That was why I asked. Ntn had strongly suggested he was a detective. I do not feel good about those who a) kept their votes on him and even worse b) those who voted him after that.

ImTheCrew · 02-27-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

That was why I asked. Ntn had strongly suggested he was a detective. I do not feel good about those who a) kept their votes on him and even worse b) those who voted him after that.

i completley missed that whole bunch of post, i feel bad about it and i hope it will not be a mistake that comes back to haunt me

Abe Sargent · 02-27-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

Yeah. It seems to me that someone here is a lot richer than they are making themselves out to be.

Are you saying I'm rich? I'm not. I have enough money to participate on the Underground, but I'm hardly rich because of it. Numerous people have posted on the messageboard already, are they all rich too?

kingfc22 · 02-27-2007, 10:23 PM

Well that was a shitty day.

SnDlvs - I did not vote for a judge because the last time I was on (last night) there was not enough info to go on. If I had been on today, I would have voted for Anxiety to be judge.

Not sure who I would have voted to lynch since day 1 is always so random.

The one thing that concerns me the most is hoops and his cpu being hacked continously. Why would the mafia do it more than once? If I was a mafia member, would I make this up and make one of my own look like a target to gain trust with the rest of the city?

Dr. Sak · 02-27-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

Are you saying I'm rich? I'm not. I have enough money to participate on the Underground, but I'm hardly rich because of it. Numerous people have posted on the messageboard already, are they all rich too?

I wasn't saying you exactly but you get pretty defensive. There has just been some activity on there with some big bucks changing hands.

kingfc22 · 02-27-2007, 10:26 PM

Also, I am very worried to what will happen to me tomorrow since I didn't vote today.

SnDvls · 02-27-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I just want to say that I am a huge fan of the Underground Msg Board already! Adds a very good element to the game!

guess I should buy a spot on there now

Alan do I get to read past messages on the message board if I join late or just from once I join?

Tyrith · 02-27-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

That was why I asked. Ntn had strongly suggested he was a detective. I do not feel good about those who a) kept their votes on him and even worse b) those who voted him after that.

Strongly suggested? Where, because I missed it, and no one made an effort to make it obvious.

SnDvls · 02-27-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Well that was a shitty day.

SnDlvs - I did not vote for a judge because the last time I was on (last night) there was not enough info to go on. If I had been on today, I would have voted for Anxiety to be judge.

Not sure who I would have voted to lynch since day 1 is always so random.

The one thing that concerns me the most is hoops and his cpu being hacked continously. Why would the mafia do it more than once? If I was a mafia member, would I make this up and make one of my own look like a target to gain trust with the rest of the city?

I wasn't accusing you just trying to find out who was who on the list of 8 that is all

path12 · 02-27-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon #523

well Hoopsguy, iam sure someone will look into who did go into your computer.

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon #524

my first thought is to trust Blade in this game...and since I do trust him, I also trust Daddy Torgo to some degree.

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon #528

my comment on Blade is nothing more than a guess. the statement before that wasn't.

After this, which is the hint, ITC and Swaggs voted for ntn, and JE voted for ITC instead of the run toward bsak. Plus those who kept their vote on ntn of course.

This is where we should be looking instead of trying to read something into a secret judge vote.

kingfc22 · 02-27-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I wasn't accusing you just trying to find out who was who on the list of 8 that is all

I know. I was just giving my explanation rather than just saying "nope".

st.cronin · 02-27-2007, 10:33 PM

I'll be honest, I totally missed those hints as well. I remember him saying that, but it just didn't mean anything to me.

Tyrith · 02-27-2007, 10:35 PM

Yeah. Anyone could have said that. I mean, in the context of ntn's usually discussion none of that seemed to be anything too special. And if you're dying I'd think you'd apply a little more force with your hinting if you're that important, IMO.

Alan T · 02-27-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

guess I should buy a spot on there now

Alan do I get to read past messages on the message board if I join late or just from once I join?

The messageboard is more like a listserv. You only get messages from here on. Not past messages.

path12 · 02-27-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yeah. Anyone could have said that. I mean, in the context of ntn's usually discussion none of that seemed to be anything too special. And if you're dying I'd think you'd apply a little more force with your hinting if you're that important, IMO.

Bullshit. It was four posts apart. It's a plenty big hint. If you're a detective you don't come out and put the damn target on your back for the mafia.

ImTheCrew · 02-27-2007, 10:37 PM

completey off topic but what does the DOLA and OOPTC??? Stand for?

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Yeah. Anyone could have said that. I mean, in the context of ntn's usually discussion none of that seemed to be anything too special. And if you're dying I'd think you'd apply a little more force with your hinting if you're that important, IMO.

He said it was a fact he was "sure" someone would investigate him...i think your sugarcoating what happened, which included you voting him

Tyrith · 02-27-2007, 10:39 PM

Well, I know I wasn't the only one that missed it. And it certainly seems like everyone in here missed it until after the fact because no one seemed to actually point it out until after the fact.

st.cronin · 02-27-2007, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

completey off topic but what does the DOLA and OOPTC??? Stand for?

You should post this in off topic. That way the post will count.

Blade6119 · 02-27-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Well, I know I wasn't the only one that missed it. And it certainly seems like everyone in here missed it until after the fact because no one seemed to actually point it out until after the fact.

Yes, lets point out the detective to the mafia while he can still might live..we hoped you would take your votes off and he would be safe...im not just pointing the finger at you, but your blowing smoke right now

Barkeep49 · 02-27-2007, 10:41 PM

DOLA has a storied history on the board. It's basically a way of saying "I'm posting two posts in a row." A sort of apology if you will to make the breach of etiquette OK.

path12 · 02-27-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Well, I know I wasn't the only one that missed it. And it certainly seems like everyone in here missed it until after the fact because no one seemed to actually point it out until after the fact.

You're not the only one. I switched my vote, DaddyTorgo switched his vote. That was it. Then I asked hoo about who had investigated him since I had been sure he would have said something if it had been made clear to him that ntn had been his investigator.

But that's why you and the other ntn voters, especially the late ones are now at the top of my list. There are bad guys in that list, I have no doubt.

path12 · 02-27-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ImTheCrew

completey off topic but what does the DOLA and OOPTC??? Stand for?

Dola, I don't think I've ever heard of OOPTC....

path12 · 02-27-2007, 10:46 PM

And just to beat this horse a bit more, there is no way now that Anxiety will get a judge vote from me.

SnDvls · 02-27-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

You should post this in off topic. That way the post will count.

lol

02-27-2007, 10:10 PM	#657
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I still 99.9% believe cronin is evil and needs to die...today made me even more sure of this fact...but take it for what it is, a hunch __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

02-27-2007, 10:17 PM	#670
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I just want to say that I am a huge fan of the Underground Msg Board already! Adds a very good element to the game! __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

02-27-2007, 10:23 PM	#679
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Well that was a shitty day. SnDlvs - I did not vote for a judge because the last time I was on (last night) there was not enough info to go on. If I had been on today, I would have voted for Anxiety to be judge. Not sure who I would have voted to lynch since day 1 is always so random. The one thing that concerns me the most is hoops and his cpu being hacked continously. Why would the mafia do it more than once? If I was a mafia member, would I make this up and make one of my own look like a target to gain trust with the rest of the city? __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-27-2007, 10:26 PM	#681
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Also, I am very worried to what will happen to me tomorrow since I didn't vote today. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

02-27-2007, 10:33 PM	#687
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I'll be honest, I totally missed those hints as well. I remember him saying that, but it just didn't mean anything to me. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

02-27-2007, 10:06 PM	#652
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I agree that it's possible for us to have a night kill, which simply hasn't happened yet, owing to the 24 hour cycles.

02-27-2007, 10:07 PM	#653
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Voting analysis around Ntndeacon down the stretch: Four votes already on Ntndeacon prior to Post #479, three in last 40 minutes (Barkeep40, Tyrith, Anxiety) Post #479 News report of crime Post #480 hoopsguy = victim Post #496 DaddyTorgo votes Ntndeacon Post #515 Ntndeacon says that he believes detectives cannot communicate with each other Post #523 Ntndeacon says that someone will investigate my report (communicating to other detectives) Post #530 Daddy unvotes Ntndeacon, changes to Marathoner Post #558 ImTheCrew votes Ntndeacon, no reason Post #559 Swaggs votes Ntndeacon, looking to prevent tie (6th vote, none with more than 2 at that time) Post #570 Jonathan Ezarik votes for ImTheCrew with 6-4 vote at the time between Ntndeacon and Bsak16 Post #572 Ntndeacon says he made strong hint of who he was Post #577 path12 votes for Bsak16, closing gap to 6-5 with 8 minutes to go

02-27-2007, 10:08 PM	#656
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I unvoted NTN because he stated that he believed that I was good FYI

02-27-2007, 10:12 PM	#662
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	i didnt even realize the voting was that close

02-27-2007, 10:35 PM	#688
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Yeah. Anyone could have said that. I mean, in the context of ntn's usually discussion none of that seemed to be anything too special. And if you're dying I'd think you'd apply a little more force with your hinting if you're that important, IMO.

02-27-2007, 10:37 PM	#691
ImTheCrew High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	completey off topic but what does the DOLA and OOPTC??? Stand for?

02-27-2007, 10:39 PM	#693
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Well, I know I wasn't the only one that missed it. And it certainly seems like everyone in here missed it until after the fact because no one seemed to actually point it out until after the fact.

02-27-2007, 10:41 PM	#696
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	DOLA has a storied history on the board. It's basically a way of saying "I'm posting two posts in a row." A sort of apology if you will to make the breach of etiquette OK.

02-27-2007, 10:46 PM	#699
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	And just to beat this horse a bit more, there is no way now that Anxiety will get a judge vote from me. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

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