WW-Pokemon Day Three Deadline 4/15 10 PM

[EagleFan]

What is the case against Raven? I am not getting a wolf read off him.

[path12]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Not really, a wolf would move immediately as they would at least know the player wasn't a wolf. Take a chance that people think just like what you posted.

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Yeah totally could be a buying trust move.

Those are both fair points.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by path12

Yeah, I don't know. I think you get a counter claim eventually.

Which if I understand the logic, would just lead to the false claimer saying they were vanilla trying to deflect attention without hurting the actual Martyr.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

What is the case against Raven? I am not getting a wolf read off him.

There isn't much of a case against Autumn either if we're being honest..

[Zinto]

As of Post 653

Raven 5- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)


Nightfall 1-EagleFan(360)


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[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by path12

Yeah, I don't know. I think you get a counter claim eventually.

A counter claim against Autumn claiming vanilla? Autumn's move by no means proves that he is village. The point was that a valid Shoveler claim would cause a wolf to move first as they would already know he isn't a wolf so they have no reason to question his claim and want to look as village as possible.

[The Jackal]

He meant counter claim to Vaimes Martyr false claim, EF

[The Jackal]

if he was a wolf faking in that situation

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by timmae

Did I say how much I hate nightfalls?! (ribbing EF!)

Hey, still not completely buying the claim but we will see about that tomorrow if we get a counter claim.

[Autumn]

If Raven flips wolf, I think I will be looking at EF tomorrow (and hopefully he'll be scanned anyway).

[path12]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Which if I understand the logic, would just lead to the false claimer saying they were vanilla trying to deflect attention without hurting the actual Martyr.

Yeah, basically.

[The Jackal]

Fact in point is that your vote is now useless, though, whether or not Shoveler is telling the truth

[The Jackal]

And not useless in the Grover I'm at bowling and not changing my vote useless, an active useless where we could actually see you forced to make a decision!

[path12]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

He meant counter claim to Vaimes Martyr false claim, EF

Jackal is correct.

[The Jackal]

Oh and + however many to JAG's post about keeping it civil. It's easy to get emotional in this game but you have to learn not to take things personally and remember that while most of the time it's village vs village when people get angry, there are often people INTENTIONALLY getting under your skin because they're wolves and they want to start shit.

[The Jackal]

Or because they are villagers trying to gauge your defensiveness level

[The Jackal]

Anywho, I have no real strong read on Autumn vs Raven .. just don't want another tie

[path12]

Or some of us are just assholes.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by path12

Or some of us are just assholes.

lathum isnt playing

[JAG]

Tough choice here. I liked what I read from Raven today. Not much read on Autumn, but I really did not care for the run-up on Autumn for very little reason that I could see.

[path12]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

lathum isnt playing

Ha!

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by JAG

Tough choice here. I liked what I read from Raven today. Not much read on Autumn, but I really did not care for the run-up on Autumn for very little reason that I could see.

And the subsequent run on Raven with very little reason. Both are weird.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Fact in point is that your vote is now useless, though, whether or not Shoveler is telling the truth

I would have no gut reason to change anyway at this point to be honest. This makes for a stress free night. I get to sit back and observe.

[The Jackal]

I mean, the one on Raven makes a little more sense since people were forced into a time crunch and no one seemed interested in raising multiple new candidates, but still .. no one even entertained the thought of putting EF back up or looking at someone else

[JAG]

Vote Raven

But let's not tie it again.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I would have no gut reason to change anyway at this point to be honest. This makes for a stress free night. I get to sit back and observe.

Moreso arguing against the use of nightfall, not you personally. But also that last line is what every wolf would LOVE to do, just sayin

[path12]

I only voted Raven because there wasn't another option.

[Raven]

You have no reason to vote me and are undecided. Same decision I faced earlier tonight, but I'm the one who will now pay for it.

Another villager down! Good luck all.

[JAG]

Autumn wasn't an option?

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I mean, the one on Raven makes a little more sense since people were forced into a time crunch and no one seemed interested in raising multiple new candidates, but still .. no one even entertained the thought of putting EF back up or looking at someone else

i think they followed my lead, so I'll own that. It seemed dumb to drag EF back into it after spending all day discussing him, and suggesting the seer scan him. At least this way we get some more voting history. I was a perfectly reasonable candidate so it will tell us something which way people went.

[fontisian]

Look, if the reason we're not lynching EF is that he probably wouldn't have made that kill (which is my reasoning), that also applies to Autumn.

[path12]

Originally Posted by JAG

Autumn wasn't an option?

I could be getting fooled, but I did like that he jumped right off.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Look, if the reason we're not lynching EF is that he probably wouldn't have made that kill (which is my reasoning), that also applies to Autumn.

That was another reason in Autumn's favor. I would be very surprised if he would sign off on that N1 kill. Then again, maybe he wasn't around for the decision.

[The Jackal]

I don't want to much too much weight on that line of reasoning

[path12]

All right. My wife is giving me stink eye. Good luck to us.

[Zinto]

Deadline

[The Jackal]

Brit is a good player, he was a very strong seer scan if he wasn't the seer, if EF is good it put EF in the crosshairs .. a vet could have easily signed off on that, especially if someone felt strongly about a post of his that we're not privy to

[Zinto]

Day Two Final Tally

Raven 6- Autumn(622), Vaimes(626), Fontisian(636), Path(638), Timmae(641), JAG(675)
Autumn 4- The Jackal(546), Shoveler(579), Chief Rum(585), Raven(597)
Shoveler 2-EagleFan(360), Narcizo(510)
Timmae 1- Grover(530)


Nightfall 1-EagleFan(360)

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by path12

All right. My wife is giving me stink eye. Good luck to us.

Just tell her that you're playing a game with a 19 year old girl. I'm sure she'll take it really well.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by fontisian

Just tell her that you're playing a game with a 19 year old girl. I'm sure she'll take it really well.

saldana isn't playing either

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

saldana isn't playing either

Gold.

[Zinto]

Day Two Results

Tensions continue to rise after Britrock's Pokemon were stolen. As anger in the camp rises and fingers keep getting pointed in every direction. As the day goes on the camp narrows it down to two trainers Autumn and Shoveler. Just as you are about to reach a decision Shoveler flips on a red hat.

The fingers start moving from Shoveler and start moving towards a new candidate. As each finger starts pointing towards Raven he starts to shuffle his feet. As the last person votes Raven out of the camp he yells "Team Rocket will never lose!"

As Jag is the last person to vote for Raven he decides that he will defeat him in battle. Raven sends out his Zubat and JAG counters with his Charmander. A few quick bursts of ember and Zubat is dispatched. With a screech and a run Raven disappears from the camp.

Raven was a member of Team Rocket

[JAG]

Yes!

[timmae]

woohooo... stooge number 1 down!

[Zinto]

Night Two Results

Tensions melt away after the Team Rocket threat was removed from the camp. Jokes are made and songs are sung. It is easy to fall asleep knowing that your Pokemon are safe.

Unfortunately, it is not as safe as it seems. When you wake up the next morning you find a note from Chief Rum. It says that his beloved Pidgey has been stolen and he is heading back home to wait for the next pilgrimage of trainers.

Chief Rum was a vanilla villager.

[The Jackal]

Well then, nice work

[EagleFan]

If the Shoveler reveal is real and we have no counters...

Day One Vote Count

Cheekimonk 5-The Jackal(160), Raven(214), Chief Rum(226), Britrock(237), EagleFan(337)
EagleFan 5-Fontisian(61), Vaimes(71), Shoveler(264), Path(318), Cheekimonk(333)
Britrock 4- JAG(59), Narcizo(192), Autumn(260), Timmae(293)
The Jackal 1-Grover(104)

[The Jackal]

sucks we lost CR, but nice he wasn't roled

[Vaimes]

SCORE.

[The Jackal]

I hope that score is a wolf scan