The Democrat Party Headquarters Thread (No Repubs Allowed!!) - Page 14

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 10:08 AM

Yes, very.

chesapeake · 07-24-2008, 10:09 AM

I support reelecting Kwhit our leader as well.

I will be in-and-out from about 1:15 through 4 PM. After work (6 PM) is family time for me, but I should be back online at about 8:30.

9 PM deadline stinks for me.

So, given those constraints, I am happy to serve in any capacity that the party asks of me.

PackerFanatic · 07-24-2008, 10:15 AM

I think ches would be a good man for the liaison job. We need ANY help we can get mending fences right now...

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 10:18 AM

We should probably make it official:

Vote Chesapeake for Liason (x2)

(I have two votes today.)

PackerFanatic · 07-24-2008, 10:22 AM

VOTE CHESAPEAKE FOR LIAISON (x2)

mccollins · 07-24-2008, 10:23 AM

Vote Chesapeake for Liason
Vote KWhit for Leader

PackerFanatic · 07-24-2008, 10:24 AM

I don't think we need to re-vote KWhit, we only need to vote if we want him out (and I think we agree it would be best to keep him in for now)

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 10:25 AM

Sorry, long party after the easy reelection win. Finally getting up to speed. Last night kind of sucked for us. Why didn't our slurry attempts have any affect at all? Why did we not hear about the support/slurries until this morning? I don't trust our current leader at this point as it seems that somehow the Republican support/slurry powers actually have an affect while ours don't (if they were even used at all).

vote PackerFanatic leader

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 10:26 AM

They were used and somewhere CR references them (at least some of them). I'll find it.

mccollins · 07-24-2008, 10:26 AM

I don't know that PF can be both Leader and our Speaker nominee. FWIW

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 10:29 AM

I gave support for path12 (though he used his ability to sway the election, so this probably doesn't mean anything):

Quote:

FOURTEENTH DISTRICT

path12 won a tight race for re-election. path12 supporters said they felt they got an unexpectedly healthy boost in the polls.

"The fine people of the Fourteenth District have chosen the worthy candidate PackerFanatic to be their choice for the next President of the United States!"

Voting:

PackerFanatic-- 54%
illinifan999--46%

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 10:32 AM

I'll gladly change that vote, if possible, to anyone other than KWhit at this time as I no longer trust him at all.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I'll gladly change that vote, if possible, to anyone other than KWhit at this time as I no longer trust him at all.

Why is that?

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 10:34 AM

I would have believed that more if you answered the question of what was supported/slurried before seeing the results.

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Why is that?

Because I think you have been using the support/slurry powers to assist the wolf party instead of the Democrats.

It seems very odd that there is only slight mention of anything that could relate to support/slurry in our favor in the write up while there is a ton of things in the write ups that are in the Republican favor.

path12 · 07-24-2008, 10:38 AM

Knock on wood, but I should be around more today. I think Ches is a good choice for liason.

VOTE CHESAPEAKE FOR LIASION

Off to check the main thread.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I would have believed that more if you answered the question of what was supported/slurried before seeing the results.

Seems like a pretty strong reaction - "I don't trust him at all" - to the fact that I didn't post the support/slurry stuff until it was asked of me. We discussed it yesterday and I got it in to CR as I was leaving work last night. I should have posted it here as well, but I wasn't purposely keeping anything from you.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Because I think you have been using the support/slurry powers to assist the wolf party instead of the Democrats.

It seems very odd that there is only slight mention of anything that could relate to support/slurry in our favor in the write up while there is a ton of things in the write ups that are in the Republican favor.

Well the slurry stuff against PF is in THIS THREAD - not in the main one. So you won't see the slurry stuff I did against the Repubs. So you can't hold that against me.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

The Most Popular Politicians Among Party Members

1. PackerFanatic
2. mccollins
3. KWhit
4. Chubby
5. chesapeake
6. Lathum
7. henry296
8. EagleFan
9. path12

There is evidence that both PackerFanatic was targeted in the media.

Polling is still pretty much where it was at from the Congressional elections.

Don't forget: you can pick a new Leader today if you want, or leave the current one in power. And your Liaison is currently out of Congress, so you must select a new one.

See? This post is in THE DEM THREAD ONLY - not in the main thread.

So it appears we don't see the effects of the slurries on the Repubs.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 10:48 AM

Also, the stuff you saw in the write-ups about Chubby and Lathum weren't from slurries or supports anyway - Chubby and Lathum's elections were sabotaged according to them.

So I think your accusations are way off base saying that i'm using the supports/slurries for the wolves.

PackerFanatic · 07-24-2008, 10:49 AM

And I don't think it would have mattered if all three supports were on me last night.

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

See? This post is in THE DEM THREAD ONLY - not in the main thread.

So it appears we don't see the effects of the slurries on the Repubs.

See what? It doesn't say how there was an affect from the media and it doesn't even seem to be a complete sentence as it declared both PF...

This also conveniently came out before you said what you "did".

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 10:56 AM

Either way it's obviously time for a change in leadership as our leader could barely win his election and we are losing ground quickly in the polls. Are we going to follow this leader into the ground?

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 10:57 AM

dola: He barely won in a district which he should have coasted to victory in.

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 10:58 AM

vote chesapeake liaison

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

See what? It doesn't say how there was an affect from the media and it doesn't even seem to be a complete sentence as it declared both PF...

This also conveniently came out before you said what you "did".

Huh? Are you at all paying attention?

One of your 'arguments' against me is that we're not seeing any of the effects from slurries but we see all kinds of effects from the republicans.

My response was to show you that we won't see the results from the slurries AT ALL since they're posted in the individual party threads and not the main thread. It has NOTHING to do with when that post was made that I quoted.

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 11:04 AM

You are so reaching here. I think we have a wolf amongst us and voted his as leader giving him full run of the coop.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 11:07 AM

How so? You clearly aren't following my logic here, so maybe I'm not explaining myself well enough.

What exactly gives you an indication that I'm somehow lying about how I'm using my slurries?

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 11:08 AM

Sadly the person who has cleared you is someone who I have already thought was a wolf. This will not be an easy choiice to make in that case.

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 11:09 AM

I still think something isn't right here but I'll keep that to myself at this point. Oh, just one more thing. Please explain your wolf vote(s) yesterday.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Sadly the person who has cleared you is someone who I have already thought was a wolf. This will not be an easy choiice to make in that case.

But if Tyrith is lying about what THEIR THREAD says, don't you think a Republican will call him on it?!?!?!?!

chesapeake · 07-24-2008, 11:10 AM

There are now 3 GOP members on record verifying KWhit. And if they are wolves and lying, the rest of the GOP would now know it.

You made a fair accusation, EF -- and I had been silent for a while because I wanted to see how it played out. But the evidence offered by the other party seems solid.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I still think something isn't right here but I'll keep that to myself at this point. Oh, just one more thing. Please explain your wolf vote(s) yesterday.

Read the main thread. I explained it there completely.

I also don't understand how putting a vote on someone other than Clap (WHO WAS PROVEN TO BE A VILLAGER) makes me somehow suspicious.

chesapeake · 07-24-2008, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chesapeake

I'm serious about the weather. Fairfax Co. Emergency Management was talking tornadoes.

I voted for Mrs. S. because 1) she has been completely under the radar; and 2) I don't buy that Clap is a wolf.

I should have smelled a GOP trap. Sorry about that.

EF -- here is my wolf vote justification from post 537 (or so) made at 9:30 last night. I'm sticking to it because it is true.

chesapeake · 07-24-2008, 11:14 AM

Thanks for the votes as liaison, btw. I'll vote for myself and try to do a good job.

VOTE CHESAPEAKE LIAISON

I think this is an appointed job, isn't it. If so, appoint me and I'll get started. Anything anyone wants me to say to the dirty bastards on the other side?

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 11:15 AM

Yeah, go for it, Chesapeake. Start PMing Pass.

chesapeake · 07-24-2008, 11:18 AM

PLease say something in the main thread so everyone knows, K.

Are we cool with PF being our speaker nominee? I am. He's our most popular guy, so putting him out there could have some electoral benefit for us.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 11:18 AM

I am too

EagleFan · 07-24-2008, 11:23 AM

This game is not easy. With players like PB and Mrs Schmidty staying out of the main thread it's really hard to get a read on them. Mrs Schmidty had played a much more visible game but with two threads maybe she is in the other thread. PB is usually much more vocal too, but that usually leads to him giving himself away (from what I have seen).

Right now Tyrinth is on my suspect list but I know some of that may be politics but the arguements he is making on some issues are making me suspect him.

The re-elections are tomorrow so we need to get those of us who have lost seats back in power.

We also need ideas for today's bills.

I would like to see the National Health care bill passed to allow for a healer.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 11:27 AM

I'm voting Mrs Schmidty today unless something drastic happens. I voted for her yesterday and the Repubs have already said today they don't trust her.

chesapeake · 07-24-2008, 11:32 AM

PF nominated for Speaker. Go vote.

EF suggests a healer. Being the noob -- how does one work typically?

mccollins · 07-24-2008, 11:50 AM

From the rules, the Healer is the second most liberal role (after Bodyguard). Here is the description:

Quote:

Healer/Herbalist (can heal a person attacked by the wolves)

I assume this person has to name the person they want to 'heal' by the end of the day deadline like a bodyguard would.

chesapeake · 07-24-2008, 11:51 AM

OK. I didn't know if the healer had to guess beforehand who might be hurt or if s/he healed someone hurt at some cost to him/herself.

mccollins · 07-24-2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK

first message is Pass saying thanks for letting them know they could run the bill by CR, then he says it was his fault it would fail, he was the one pushing for it to be strong...

We never followed up on Lathum's confirmation on this. While it was happening we correlated the aggressive, possibly unconstitutional clauses to being a wolfish move. Do others still think this? What about Pass's overall play?

Heinz seems to have just been playing from a more political angle at times. I'm not sure if that changes my suspicion of him or not.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 12:22 PM

So far, I'm getting a villager vibe from Pass, but that is probably just because he's played more bi-partisan, so I don't know.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

From the rules, the Healer is the second most liberal role (after Bodyguard). Here is the description:

I assume this person has to name the person they want to 'heal' by the end of the day deadline like a bodyguard would.

So is this really (basically) the exact same role as a bodyguard?

chesapeake · 07-24-2008, 12:23 PM

The post of Heinz's I highlighted earlier this morning in the main thread still says a lot to me. Virtually all of it was made-up crap, and the intended effect was to stir up more partisan dischord, which benefits the wolves.

Can someone clarify for me that the healer's role is to take a guess in the night phase as to whom the wolves will attack, and if correct, to mitigate the damage?

mccollins · 07-24-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

So is this really (basically) the exact same role as a bodyguard?

I think it's only been in one game I've ever played so I don't know for sure.

That was just a guess, but CR would probably say we can write it however we want, but to be cautious of the courts.

mccollins · 07-24-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chesapeake

The post of Heinz's I highlighted earlier this morning in the main thread still says a lot to me. Virtually all of it was made-up crap, and the intended effect was to stir up more partisan dischord, which benefits the wolves.

Ah, very true - it seems he has backed down some since you called him out on that.

KWhit · 07-24-2008, 12:26 PM

Here's a potential Doctor bill:

NATIONALIZED HEALTHCARE BILL

WHEREAS, we are all endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable Rights, including Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. This Congress believes that the second and third are currently cared for. Liberty? Well, we got that statue. Pursuit of Happiness? Internet porn (I rest my case). However, the first right is under attack from the Wolf threat.

BE IT RESOLVED:

Nationally sponsored and supported healthcare is hereby established for all citizens (as long as you're a Congressman and not a member of the Wolf Party). This mechanism allows for a member of congress to be named as "Doctor" and granted certain special attributes:

1) The Doctor may choose one Congressperson per night to protect.
2) If the protected Congressperson is attacked, the Doctor will be there to save him or her (percentage chance to be determined by CR).

The Doctor shall be chosen randomly by our Creator from the pool of non-Wolf members of Congress who do not currently possess another role created by a previous bill.

07-24-2008, 10:15 AM	#653
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I think ches would be a good man for the liaison job. We need ANY help we can get mending fences right now... __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-24-2008, 10:22 AM	#655
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	VOTE CHESAPEAKE FOR LIAISON (x2) __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-24-2008, 10:24 AM	#657
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I don't think we need to re-vote KWhit, we only need to vote if we want him out (and I think we agree it would be best to keep him in for now) __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-24-2008, 10:38 AM	#666
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Knock on wood, but I should be around more today. I think Ches is a good choice for liason. VOTE CHESAPEAKE FOR LIASION Off to check the main thread. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-24-2008, 10:49 AM	#671
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	And I don't think it would have mattered if all three supports were on me last night. __________________ Commissioner of the RNFL

07-24-2008, 10:08 AM	#651
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yes, very.

07-24-2008, 10:09 AM	#652
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	I support reelecting Kwhit our leader as well. I will be in-and-out from about 1:15 through 4 PM. After work (6 PM) is family time for me, but I should be back online at about 8:30. 9 PM deadline stinks for me. So, given those constraints, I am happy to serve in any capacity that the party asks of me.

07-24-2008, 10:18 AM	#654
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	We should probably make it official: Vote Chesapeake for Liason (x2) (I have two votes today.)

07-24-2008, 10:23 AM	#656
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	Vote Chesapeake for Liason Vote KWhit for Leader

07-24-2008, 10:25 AM	#658
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Sorry, long party after the easy reelection win. Finally getting up to speed. Last night kind of sucked for us. Why didn't our slurry attempts have any affect at all? Why did we not hear about the support/slurries until this morning? I don't trust our current leader at this point as it seems that somehow the Republican support/slurry powers actually have an affect while ours don't (if they were even used at all). vote PackerFanatic leader

07-24-2008, 10:26 AM	#659
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	They were used and somewhere CR references them (at least some of them). I'll find it.

07-24-2008, 10:26 AM	#660
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	I don't know that PF can be both Leader and our Speaker nominee. FWIW

07-24-2008, 10:32 AM	#662
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I'll gladly change that vote, if possible, to anyone other than KWhit at this time as I no longer trust him at all.

07-24-2008, 10:34 AM	#664
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I would have believed that more if you answered the question of what was supported/slurried before seeing the results.

07-24-2008, 10:48 AM	#670
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Also, the stuff you saw in the write-ups about Chubby and Lathum weren't from slurries or supports anyway - Chubby and Lathum's elections were sabotaged according to them. So I think your accusations are way off base saying that i'm using the supports/slurries for the wolves.

07-24-2008, 10:56 AM	#673
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Either way it's obviously time for a change in leadership as our leader could barely win his election and we are losing ground quickly in the polls. Are we going to follow this leader into the ground?

07-24-2008, 10:57 AM	#674
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	dola: He barely won in a district which he should have coasted to victory in.

07-24-2008, 10:58 AM	#675
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	vote chesapeake liaison

07-24-2008, 11:04 AM	#677
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	You are so reaching here. I think we have a wolf amongst us and voted his as leader giving him full run of the coop.

07-24-2008, 11:07 AM	#678
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	How so? You clearly aren't following my logic here, so maybe I'm not explaining myself well enough. What exactly gives you an indication that I'm somehow lying about how I'm using my slurries?

07-24-2008, 11:08 AM	#679
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Sadly the person who has cleared you is someone who I have already thought was a wolf. This will not be an easy choiice to make in that case.

07-24-2008, 11:09 AM	#680
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I still think something isn't right here but I'll keep that to myself at this point. Oh, just one more thing. Please explain your wolf vote(s) yesterday.

07-24-2008, 11:10 AM	#682
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	There are now 3 GOP members on record verifying KWhit. And if they are wolves and lying, the rest of the GOP would now know it. You made a fair accusation, EF -- and I had been silent for a while because I wanted to see how it played out. But the evidence offered by the other party seems solid.

07-24-2008, 11:14 AM	#685
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	Thanks for the votes as liaison, btw. I'll vote for myself and try to do a good job. VOTE CHESAPEAKE LIAISON I think this is an appointed job, isn't it. If so, appoint me and I'll get started. Anything anyone wants me to say to the dirty bastards on the other side?

07-24-2008, 11:15 AM	#686
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yeah, go for it, Chesapeake. Start PMing Pass.

07-24-2008, 11:18 AM	#687
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	PLease say something in the main thread so everyone knows, K. Are we cool with PF being our speaker nominee? I am. He's our most popular guy, so putting him out there could have some electoral benefit for us.

07-24-2008, 11:18 AM	#688
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I am too

07-24-2008, 11:23 AM	#689
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	This game is not easy. With players like PB and Mrs Schmidty staying out of the main thread it's really hard to get a read on them. Mrs Schmidty had played a much more visible game but with two threads maybe she is in the other thread. PB is usually much more vocal too, but that usually leads to him giving himself away (from what I have seen). Right now Tyrinth is on my suspect list but I know some of that may be politics but the arguements he is making on some issues are making me suspect him. The re-elections are tomorrow so we need to get those of us who have lost seats back in power. We also need ideas for today's bills. I would like to see the National Health care bill passed to allow for a healer.

07-24-2008, 11:27 AM	#690
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'm voting Mrs Schmidty today unless something drastic happens. I voted for her yesterday and the Repubs have already said today they don't trust her.

07-24-2008, 11:32 AM	#691
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	PF nominated for Speaker. Go vote. EF suggests a healer. Being the noob -- how does one work typically?

07-24-2008, 11:51 AM	#693
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	OK. I didn't know if the healer had to guess beforehand who might be hurt or if s/he healed someone hurt at some cost to him/herself.

07-24-2008, 12:22 PM	#695
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	So far, I'm getting a villager vibe from Pass, but that is probably just because he's played more bi-partisan, so I don't know.

07-24-2008, 12:23 PM	#697
chesapeake College Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Arlington, VA	The post of Heinz's I highlighted earlier this morning in the main thread still says a lot to me. Virtually all of it was made-up crap, and the intended effect was to stir up more partisan dischord, which benefits the wolves. Can someone clarify for me that the healer's role is to take a guess in the night phase as to whom the wolves will attack, and if correct, to mitigate the damage?

07-24-2008, 12:26 PM	#700
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Here's a potential Doctor bill: NATIONALIZED HEALTHCARE BILL WHEREAS, we are all endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable Rights, including Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. This Congress believes that the second and third are currently cared for. Liberty? Well, we got that statue. Pursuit of Happiness? Internet porn (I rest my case). However, the first right is under attack from the Wolf threat. BE IT RESOLVED: Nationally sponsored and supported healthcare is hereby established for all citizens (as long as you're a Congressman and not a member of the Wolf Party). This mechanism allows for a member of congress to be named as "Doctor" and granted certain special attributes: 1) The Doctor may choose one Congressperson per night to protect. 2) If the protected Congressperson is attacked, the Doctor will be there to save him or her (percentage chance to be determined by CR). The Doctor shall be chosen randomly by our Creator from the pool of non-Wolf members of Congress who do not currently possess another role created by a previous bill.

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