07-29-2007, 08:03 PM | #651 | |
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One thing I do dislike is when WW discussions on this board go into who are veterans and who are newbies. WW is a game where experience helps, just like any other game, but I don't think the divide is as great as it is sometimes made out to be, or at least implied to be. At the end of the day it is a reason and intuition game, which are innate human skills. |
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07-29-2007, 08:04 PM | #652 | |
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07-29-2007, 08:05 PM | #653 | |
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If you re-read what I wrote, I clearly didn't say it had to do with game experience. It very much has to do with people being familiar with other people's playing style. If you have played 15-20 games with someone and they ALWAYS act a similar way, you learn a bit about them.. So I agree with your post, but in this case, people who have played a bunch of games with me know me better than people who haven't. |
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07-29-2007, 08:07 PM | #656 | |
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I think it's a flimsy defense if you try and use past games with mechanics that have no bearing on this current one as proof that you're not a wolf. Sure, the slow-conversion thing might not have happened in previous games, but it's not wildly implausible. Makes more sense than a maksed doctor rescuing you from the wolves and then stealing away into the night, leaving no trace. |
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07-29-2007, 08:07 PM | #657 |
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Well, I really didn't want to reveal this as I feel its too early in the game. However with votes moving, I feel that it would be irresponsible of me to not reveal with enough time for people to get votes off of me. With Tanglewood stating he would vote for me, it looks likely that I am the marked person for tonight without this reveal.
I am Van Helsing. I get to protect someone every night. I am not going into any more detail about what I can and can't do as now obviously I have to play a game of chess with the wolves for the rest of the game. Night 1: I tried to protect Chief Rum. I didn't get any information at all whatsoever as the rest of what happened is exactly as I said previously. I woke up remembering none of the previous evening. The reason I decided to reveal that part was my fear that if someone good did something to me, the lack of my mentioning it might be more suspicious than mentioning it. I honestly never considered any "slow conversion" Until Kwhit brought it up. The only thing that popped into my mind then and still I believe is true is either: A) Chief RUm did something or has some ability for me to not be able to protect him/guard him/watch him. B) Someone else used some form of inhibition on me. Night 2: I won't say who I protected, but i will say what I saw. I don't want that person to come out and confirm things in any way at all. I saw PlayerX basically steal a handkerchief from Cartman (or maybe it was cartman's room. The PM wasn't very specific about it). PlayerX returned to their room and the light was on all night but no one ever came to visit them. My take on this is that PlayerX is the Good scientist, and I feel that due to this Cartman likely turned up as good (or at least not a wolf). I've been trying to ride the fine line of not getting lynched for a while, but I in good conscience can not let myself be lynched for the sake of the village, so must reveal earlier than I wanted to. For a while today, I felt the momentum had turned and I could ride things out and not have to reveal. I no longer feel that way. There are 50 minutes left and plenty of you here. So there is plenty of time for you all to save me. Do NOT vote for me. |
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FWIW, I don't think that the conversation heads in this direction as often, or as forcefully, now as it has in the past. Don't want to threadjack the game as deadline approaches, but didn't feel like starting a separate thread on this topic either. |
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07-29-2007, 08:08 PM | #659 | |
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You are the one that is using past game mechanics against me. I'm flat out saying I don't believe there is a slow conversion in this game. Don't turn this around on me at all. |
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07-29-2007, 08:09 PM | #660 |
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son of a bitch
that reveal is going to hurt us! |
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I agree that it doesn't either. I think Tanglewood just completely missed my point all together, and I would be happy to talk about this after the game more if he wants to. But playing 20 games with someone means you are more familiar with their play style. I never even inferred playing ability or WW experience in my post. I simply said the only people other than Path who were voting for me hadn't played many games with me and wern't familiar with me. |
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son of a bitch!
well, let's summarize what we learned: alan=good cr= ? playerx=good scientist cartman=good |
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Doesn't that make you suspicious of Chief then? If not, why? UNVOTE ALAN T
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oh i'm not blaming you alan. It's just unfortunate
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For the record, I don't know that playerx is the good scientist, but what I witnessed was in line with what I would expect of someone taking an item from someone else to "examine" DNA. |
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Also I don't know anything about Cartman myself, but I am just going off of playerX's interaction today. |
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Well, that is definitely a bunch of news to digest and consider.
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right. That was the one thing that we're not "sure" of on that list. I should have said "presumed good scientist"
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07-29-2007, 08:13 PM | #672 | |
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This is certainly plausible. I will wait for a bit before deciding what to do. Hopefully Cartman turns up and/or another Van Helsing will reveal before the deadline. |
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dammit dammit dammit
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putting this all together: tangle is not player x I would assume.
So we have alan=van helsing cartman=strongly presumed good player x=presumed good scientist tangle=not player x daddytorgo=villager |
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This I considered as a possibility but ruled it out because I didn't think it would have been the correct play in this situation. If I had recieved a night PM I would not mention it under any circumstances unless I felt it was necessary. I guess that's just a play style difference. |
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I have to admit after reading this vote I really want to believe Alant. why would he have revealed his day one Pm... that makes no sense. He should have known that would get a lot of heat on him. I really do not believe that he is a wolf right now. |
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Hey, it would be much better for the village if someone else turns up and claims to be Van Helsing. I already said your story is plausable. Unless Cartman contradicts you, which it doesn't look like he will, or another player comes out and contradicts you I won't vote for you tonight. |
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UNVOTE ALAN T
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A little late now that your plan to vote for me forced me to reveal. |
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I don't see anything missing, so it is possible that either Alan made it up, or it was replaced before I noticed it missing.
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Yeah, I just was speed reading and missed that you were referring to familiarity with yourself rather than the game. No big deal. |
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VOTE TANGLEWOOD
Back to my first choice.
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I love when people post while catching up.
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In the absence of a counter are you going to chance it?
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strong statement gonzo. Do you have a reason for it? not asking for a reveal or anythingg, but at least let us know if it's "gut" or "due to evidence"
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As for being spare.. its funny I'm talking to someone else not in this game on IM about that. The way I figured, I had votes from 5 people, Tanglewood would be #6. Neon wouldn't move, Path and Gonzo were both being stuck in a rutt, and Cartman and Antmeister I didn't see around. Telle said she wasn't going to vote, and I didn't have much more lifeline. I would have preferred having to not have revealed.. but c'est la vie |
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so almost like...somebody slipped something into your drink...or else that's a mechanism of "CR is a wolf and that's cronin's way of saying you can't follow a wolf" or something...
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The Chief Rum thing really makes me curious.
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Hmm. Someone more familiar with the movie: Doesn't Van Helsing get converted at one point and end up getting killed when he is in Wolf form fighting Dracula?
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