2010 College Football Hiring/Firing Thread

[Swaggs]

I, for one, am glad to see Hoke move up.

I miss having gigantic head coaches. I got spoiled and then Mangino, Friedgen, Weis, and Fulmer all lost their jobs in the past few years.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Darren Rovell tweeted that Hoke accepted the offer without discussing salary.

Yeah, I like to see that kind of business savvy from my head coach.

It's his dream job so he doesn't care enough to be bothered with how much he's going to get paid.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I, for one, am glad to see Hoke move up.

I miss having gigantic head coaches. I got spoiled and then Mangino, Friedgen, Weis, and Fulmer all lost their jobs in the past few years.

You got my hopes enough to do a google image search and I must say, I'm a little dissapointed. Putting Hoke in the same sentence as Mangino is more than somewhat misleading.

[Passacaglia]

Hoke is just setting himself up for the inevitable scandal. "You see, I don't even know how much *I* get paid, how am I supposed to know how much my players get paid?"

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Hoke is just setting himself up for the inevitable scandal. "You see, I don't even know how much *I* get paid, how am I supposed to know how much my players get paid?"

If Michigan paid it's players it would of had a defense.

[Ksyrup]

I don't know, Hal Mumme was dirty at UK and at times, it looked like they played 11-on-7 on D.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I don't know, Hal Mumme was dirty at UK and at times, it looked like they played 11-on-7 on D.

Yeah, but UK is in the SEC and EVERYONE is dirty there, so that all evens out.

[MrBug708]

Looks like Mike Johnson, the SF short term OC, will head to UCLA to be the offensive coordinator.

Nevermind that Norm Chow is still collecting a paycheck

[molson]

Boise St/Washington home-and-home in 2013 and 2015. Cool.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by molson

Boise St/Washington home-and-home in 2013 and 2015. Cool.

Washington fans are underwhelmed. I wonder what the financial terms of the deal are, because there's a huge difference is stadium capacity...

[Lathum]

from the Seattle Times

The school's website reported that Boise State will get $350,000 for coming to UW and the Huskies will get the same when they visit Boise.

[molson]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Washington fans are underwhelmed. I wonder what the financial terms of the deal are, because there's a huge difference is stadium capacity...

I'm not sure Washington's football program has reached the level that really warrants a snobbiness in the fanbase.

Though I'm curious about how it works out financially too, I'm just glad to see Boise St. continue to schedule the northwest BCS schools. I'm not a Bronco fan, specifically, it just makes for fun weekends around here, and reasons for weekend road trips.

[Lathum]

FWIW I like it. I'm glad we play games like this instead of some of the joke OOC schedules some schools play.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by molson

I'm not sure Washington's football program has reached the level that really warrants a snobbiness in the fanbase.

Matter of perception of course. Recently? No, they don't warrant snobbiness. But this is still, historically, the 2nd best football program in the Pac-10, one of the top 2-3 conferences in the game, and the feeling is that Sark is getting the program back to the level they were from 1976-2001.

As long as the team is getting a payout similar to what they're getting for doing a home and home with Wisconsin later in the decade, I'm cool with it. I don't know how that $350K figure compares with other series out there.

[MrBug708]

I would rank USC ahead of UW, no need to slight them

[Matthean]

Not really an offseason thread for college football so just add these here as one is related to a coaching hire.

Forcier is gone from Michigan. Note, he was academically ineligible for the Gator Bowl so this isn't Hoke related. I liked him more than Robinson, but I prefer QBs with more a pro style versus running QBs.

Michigan athletics director says QB Tate Forcier no longer with program - ESPN

Robinson is staying so far and likely will. With Forcier gone, he pretty much needs to stay. He's talking to the coaches and so far he's being told they can run a decent spread and they build for the talent around them versus forcing it. Hoke: 1. RR: 0.

I still say Robinson is limited against defenses that offer something more than a light breeze to deal with unless he makes another decent sized leap in the off season, but with Forcier gone, Gardner to me should see some playing time. I can't imagine Hoke is looking at playing Robinson as much as possible to squeeze out as many wins as he can. It's year one, find out what you have first.

Denard Robinson's high school coach says he's likely to stay at Michigan - ESPN

[tarcone]

Robinsons size is a problem, also. He took a beating during the Big10 season.

[MacroGuru]

Rumor has it Norm Chow to Utah as OC with Hines joining as OL Coach..

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Watching the Brady Hoke press conference. I like it.

[Logan]

He reminds me of Flounder.

[RedKingGold]

Do you mind if we dance with yo' dates?

[flounder]

Originally Posted by Logan

He reminds me of Flounder.

How'd I get dragged into this?

[Tigercat]

Sounds like Maryland did LSU/Miles a favor and hired Gary Crowton away. I'm so sorry Maryland fans. Not for next year. He will probably do a good job his first year, as he usually does. But the man has no idea how to build a long term offensive identity or how to develop and properly utilize his QBs. And supposedly Maryland is paying him 500k a year.

[Butter]

Pulled this quote out from somewhere:

Originally Posted by Gary Gorski

Bottom line - win the Big Ten, beat Ohio State and put us in contention for the national championship and nobody will give a rats ass what he says to the media, whether he's a "Michigan man" or anything else.

If he can't get that done then he might as well quit because there are plenty of coaches with better personalities who will fall in line with the way things have always been done and will get us 8-4 every year and to a bowl game...one stepped down before RichRod and as mentioned in this thread there's no shortage of finding one to replace him.

I think you just found another 8-4 man!

Brady Hoke breaks down 6 minutes into his press conference.

He inspires confidence and awe. Other than that, he does a good job of trying to impersonate Jim Tressel when he took over at OSU, what with all the seniors and beating your rival talk.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Pulled this quote out from somewhere:




I think you just found another 8-4 man!

Brady Hoke breaks down 6 minutes into his press conference.

He inspires confidence and awe. Other than that, he does a good job of trying to impersonate Jim Tressel when he took over at OSU, what with all the seniors and beating your rival talk.

It was a pretty safe bet that the next guy at Michigan was going to whip out some sort of commentary to copy Tressel's "Only 311 days until we beat Michigan" thing.

Of course, Tressel had 4 1-AA national titles and a recruiting base in the state of Ohio to work from, while Hoke has....a resemblance to Mike Golic.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Pulled this quote out from somewhere:

I think you just found another 8-4 man!

Brady Hoke breaks down 6 minutes into his press conference.

He inspires confidence and awe. Other than that, he does a good job of trying to impersonate Jim Tressel when he took over at OSU, what with all the seniors and beating your rival talk.

Just because he is from Dayton, Ohio doesn't mean he'll suck. He could be pretty darn good despite the problem of his hometown. Personally, I think Dayton is a nice enough place. It's just some of the people there that are problematic.

[Logan]

Paul Pasqualoni is heading back to the Northeast to replace Edsall at UConn.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Logan

Paul Pasqualoni is heading back to the Northeast to replace Edsall at UConn.

Wow. Good for him. Syracuse fans never appreciated him until he was gone.

[tarcone]

Dang. I was hoping Ken O'Keefe would get the UConn job.

[dawgfan]

Reading some rumors that Ty Willingham is getting back into the coaching game...





...with the Stanford Women's Golf team.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Tigercat

Sounds like Maryland did LSU/Miles a favor and hired Gary Crowton away. I'm so sorry Maryland fans. Not for next year. He will probably do a good job his first year, as he usually does. But the man has no idea how to build a long term offensive identity or how to develop and properly utilize his QBs. And supposedly Maryland is paying him 500k a year.

Yep, I'd say you nailed that one. Definitely adds to my expectation that Maryland will be wishing for the return of Fridge within three years or less.

[cartman]

Just when we thought things were calming down in Austin, Duane Akina threw things into a tizzy again. He left to go back to the University of Arizona. He was been one of the best DB coaches in the country, with a steady stream of DBs heading to the NFL. But this spot got filled pretty quick, with former Longhorn player and most recently Seattle Seahawks DB coach Jerry Gray taking the position.

Now all that's left (and still a pretty big spot to fill) is hiring an O-Line coach.

[kingfc22]

Listening to the Raiders press conference announcing Jackson as their head coach is pure entertainment.

Davis is a rambling mess.

He also just said that Campbell was a better player than Cam Newton in college.

[kingfc22]

There should be a drinking game for Al Davis. Whenever he mentions "excellence" and "greatness" take a shot.

[CU Tiger]

Coach Davis looked spooky with that claw and all....

[DeToxRox]

Been busy as hell the last week plus so I haven't been active in this thread but I am glad to see Hoke get the gig and equally glad that it was just announced Ravens DC Greg Mattison is the new (kind of) DC at Michigan.

Guy has an incredible college resume and is widely regarded as an incredible recruiter.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Reading some rumors that Ty Willingham is getting back into the coaching game...





...with the Stanford Women's Golf team.

Jesus you UW fans have such a hard on for Willingham. His tenure was a disaster. Alright, let it go. I'm not sitting here tracking Walt Harris' every move.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Jesus you UW fans have such a hard on for Willingham. His tenure was a disaster. Alright, let it go. I'm not sitting here tracking Walt Harris' every move.

You didn't find that news the slightest bit amusing?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

You didn't find that news the slightest bit amusing?

I found it amusing. Is it true? I didn't even bother to look into it. I assumed it was a joke.

BTW, since obviously some people care, Walt Harris is the offensive coordinator at California University of Pennsylvania. And, no, I have no idea if that's in California or Pennsylvania.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I found it amusing. Is it true? I didn't even bother to look into it. I assumed it was a joke.

http://twitter.com/StanfordWGolf

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Been busy as hell the last week plus so I haven't been active in this thread but I am glad to see Hoke get the gig and equally glad that it was just announced Ravens DC Greg Mattison is the new (kind of) DC at Michigan.

Guy has an incredible college resume and is widely regarded as an incredible recruiter.

YES! I just saw this on sbnation. I am very happy the way this staff is coming together.

So by taking the 49ers job, Jim just cost John his DC? It's kinda fun the way the Harbaughs all fit together when you piece together the careers of all three.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Been busy as hell the last week plus so I haven't been active in this thread but I am glad to see Hoke get the gig and equally glad that it was just announced Ravens DC Greg Mattison is the new (kind of) DC at Michigan.

Guy has an incredible college resume and is widely regarded as an incredible recruiter.

The Ravens are done. How is he kind of the DC? Is he just not signed yet?

EDIT: Saw the report.

Double edit: I just really hope this staff is given time. I think the improvement in terms of PR will give them that chance, but this is a brutal class they have coming in. Hopefully next years is good enough to see some solid coming together on both sides of the ball.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but....

QB Tate Forcier transferring from U-M | detnews.com | The Detroit News

Quarterback Tate Forcier announced via Twitter early Thursday morning he intends to transfer from the University of Michigan.

"I really wanted to stay," Forcier wrote. "I was not giving up on Michigan, but in the end, it was made clear they had given up on me. With that being said, it's time for me to go."

Forcier was the starting quarterback as a freshman in 2009 and the backup to Denard Robinson in 2010. But two days before the Jan. 1 Gator Bowl, Forcier was declared ineligible to play and sent back to Ann Arbor.
Forcier posted a series of messages on Twitter beginning at midnight. The text is as follows:

Why do we all wait until we are at our lowest point to seek God's help?
I've been kicked, pushed, knocked down, publicly berated, belittled, emasculated and more.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to give up or feel the victim.
The humility of it all is indescribable and that is exactly my point.

I had to reach rock bottom in order to see the light, and for that, I am thankful.

It was not until then, I realized that it was my lack of accountability and maturity and not to pass blame.

I do hope all my young fans forgive me and benefit from my lessons that I have learned.
Be grateful for what you have and be humble
for your successes.

Don't wait to ask God into your life as he will help you see things clearer.

In summary, I believe, I will become a better student and a person of stronger character from these experiences at Michigan.

I can proudly state, "I worked hard on the practice field, in the film room and at meetings," after all, football is my passion.

I had fun celebrating with the fans.

I even competed hard while injured as a true freshman through the last (8) games in 2009, but I always played the game giving it my all.

I am proud to have been part of Michigan Football history and will alway
s cherish the memory.

The last few weeks I worked extremely hard to catch back up.

I really wanted to stay. I was not giving up on Michigan, but in the end, it was made clear they had given up on me.

With that being said, it's time for me to go.

I promise the Michigan family and fans I will make you proud again.

Tate Forcier #5 - A Michigan Man Forever - Go Blue"

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Who called this back in November 2009? Some incredibly smart and ruggedly handsome sonofabitch, no doubt:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

So, when does Tate Forcier transfer? End of this season or next?

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I haven't heard any rumors, it's just that based on his family's some what creepy website (www.qbforce.com), Tate Forcier has switched teams at pretty much every he's played at.

[Logan]

I can proudly state, "I worked hard on the practice field, in the film room and at meetings,"

Good thing he didn't try to slip "classroom" in there.

[I. J. Reilly]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Tate Forcier #5 - A Michigan Man Forever

Great, now we have one more person for the media to speculate about everytime a coach gets fired.

[Poli]

Shrug. I thought he had already transferred.

[k0ruptr]

I swear the whole Forcier family transfered at least once. they are all kinds of weird.

[Matthean]

An odd way to try and play nice about why he left all the while putting the blame on Michigan.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by I. J. Reilly

Great, now we have one more person for the media to speculate about everytime a coach gets fired.

I don't believe this applies to an Emasculated Michigan Man.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by k0ruptr

I swear the whole Forcier family transfered at least once. they are all kinds of weird.

That family is absolutely insane.

hxxp://www.qbforce.com/