2024 NFL Offseason, Free Agency, and Draft Talk

[Danny]

As Atop said, Penix appeared to be the guy the Raiders liked. I dont think they wanted to move for JJ or Nix.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Danny

Im just glad we have a GM who will actually take the BPA instead of making sure their first round pick was some off the wall player to try and prove how smart you are.

This was always Bill Parcells philosophy and it worked out great most years

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Lathum

So not only did the Falcons take Penix, they apparently didn't let Cousins know they were doing it.

Complete dysfunction.

I love it. You guys WANTED drama!

[Lathum]

All these QB picks some teams that are already good are going to get real value on the defensive side of the ball. Probably the Eagles.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Nix can be good in the right system but he can't throw downfield.

And Penix can throw down field, he just can't throw in the middle of the field. Good thing that is not important in the NFL.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

There you go thomkal . Merry Xmas

and Happy New Year too! i just couldn't see them going anywhere else if they kept the pick,

[Swaggs]

Hoping the Steelers can get Amarius Mims or Brian Thomas at 20. Lots of smoke that they really like Graham Barton, but I hope they don’t go interior line this early.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The Falcons are taking Penix, and I am about to put my head in the oven. How stupid.

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Yeah this one has me scratching my head too-He looks like an injury settlement ready to happen with that injury history.

[cartman]

first defense off the board

[GrantDawg]

Latu going 15. I wanted him to be a Falcon so bad. He is the first defender off the board.

[Atocep]

Latu is an easy top 10 guy with clean medicals.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

And Penix can throw down field, he just can't throw in the middle of the field. Good thing that is not important in the NFL.

Penix can make every throw. I watched every single throw he has made the last 2 seasons. If he didn't have his injury history he would be in the discussion for #1 over all.

[NobodyHere]

Not surprised Ballard picks a lineman.

[CrimsonFox]

Defense!

[cartman]

looks like there might now be a run on defense over the next few picks

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Latu is an easy top 10 guy with clean medicals.

With the Colts luck he'll play 10 games on his rookie contract.

[CrimsonFox]

Turner pissed

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Yeah this one has me scratching my head too-He looks like an injury settlement ready to happen with that injury history.

eh.

He has played every game last 2 seasons and led his team to the natty.

I think it is an all time stupid pick for the Falcons, but he has all the tools to be great

[CrimsonFox]

Go hawks

[Swaggs]

Yeah - I understand why he isn’t higher with his age and injury history, but I’d bet on Penix’s peak NFL years being better than anyone outside of Williams.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Penix can make every throw. I watched every single throw he has made the last 2 seasons. If he didn't have his injury history he would be in the discussion for #1 over all.

That's interesting considering that is what the scout have all said about him, and Michigan basically shut him down by taking away the deep ball and giving him the middle of the field.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Lathum

So not only did the Falcons take Penix, they apparently didn't let Cousins know they were doing it.

Complete dysfunction.

wow, you would have thought they would have least let him know.

[CrimsonFox]

Did it mention why latu had his neck surgery

[Swaggs]

Do we know what happened to Todd McShay. It’s weird having only Mel from the old crew. No Berman, TJ, Mort…

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

wow, you would have thought they would have least let him know.

They called him before they made it official. They had told him they were likely to take a QB in this draft, just not in the first round.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Do we know what happened to Todd McShay. It’s weird having only Mel from the old crew. No Berman, TJ, Mort…

Fired last year.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

That's interesting considering that is what the scout have all said about him, and Michigan basically shut him down by taking away the deep ball and giving him the middle of the field.

They have to find holes.

I was at the Natty and that wasn't the case at all.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

They called him before they made it official. They had told him they were likely to take a QB in this draft, just not in the first round.

Big difference between taking a project in the 4th round and taking a guy who the fans and media will be calling for after his first 2 int game

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Do we know what happened to Todd McShay. It’s weird having only Mel from the old crew. No Berman, TJ, Mort…

He was laid off in the great ESPN purge of 2024

[CrimsonFox]

Vikings trading again

[GrantDawg]

Vikings trade up and get Turner. They are getting who they want in this draft.

[CrimsonFox]

Wait how are they putting names on the shirts so fast

[CrimsonFox]

Turners moms coat the dumbest fashion of the draft

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Vikings trade up and get Turner. They are getting who they want in this draft.

Poor man's 2023 Texans draft.

[Atocep]

Rams just had the first round pick for this decade.

[Ryche]

That Penix pick seems insane, basically saying they acquired Cousins so they win the division for a couple seasons. Cousins has already shown his ceiling without a defense. And I'm sure he is really not happy knowing his contract basically just became a 2 year deal.

Loving the Vikings draft, wanted McCarthy and thrilled to get him without giving up much extra. And I thought Turner would go to Denver at worst at 12.

[Thomkal]

Think my Cards will go defense with their 2nd pick in the 1st if they keep it

[CrimsonFox]

Chop has s signature move. Oh boy

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by Lathum

He has played every game last 2 seasons and led his team to the natty.

Sure, but as has been mentioned age + the injury history mean he isn't worth a high pick regardless of how good he is IMO. I think Penix is a great story, and there's a chance he succeeds in the NFL. But there's too much downside to invest years in a QB when there are the other options there are this year.

If I were a fan of a team picking him anywhere in the first round I would not be pleased.

[CrimsonFox]

wow this is quite a history

The player raised in Florida came back from four separate season-ending injuries in his college career. Penix tore his right ACL in 2018, dislocated his shoulder in 2019, tore his right ACL again in 2020 and separated the AC joint in his shoulder in 2021.

that's just...wow.

[RainMaker]

Even if there was no injury history, why pay Kirk Cousins all that money to then draft a QB?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Even if there was no injury history, why pay Kirk Cousins all that money to then draft a QB?

Because Blank is either senile or simply dumb as a brick.

[stevew]

I guess I hadn’t looked at the contract but it looks like cousins can pretty easily get dumped after two years. They would take a $35 million hit and have to pay out a $10 million roster bonus but they would be wiping off a $35 million non-guaranteed salary. Still a wild move.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by stevew

I guess I hadn’t looked at the contract but it looks like cousins can pretty easily get dumped after two years. They would take a $35 million hit and have to pay out a $10 million roster bonus but they would be wiping off a $35 million non-guaranteed salary. Still a wild move.

that's showbiz

[CrimsonFox]

I find it funny that the players watching from home look all surprised when they get called on the phone and drafted...like did no one told them they were in the draft? ...haha

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

wow this is quite a history

That is impressive and shows "gumption". But you wouldn't think he can stay healthy in the NFL.

I hope the Cousins-Penix mentoring relationship turns out well.

[Ksyrup]

I wonder if Cousins is more upset that they drafted his replacement with the #7 pick or didn't use that pick to improve the team he'll (presumably) be QBing for a couple years. Like, he's in "win now" mode and they just invested in the post-Cousins era with an asset they could have used for more immediate needs. I feel like Cousins is probably more embarrassed about the situation than anything else. But he is 35 coming off an Achilles, so...

[albionmoonlight]

I agree with pretty much everything that people have said about the Pennix pick.

The one thing that they have going for them is that we judge everything in hindsight. If it turns out that in four years Pennix is a top-5 QB, then the story won't be "how foolish were the Falcons to pay Cousins and then draft Pennix in the top 10?" The story will be "The Falcons have shown that if you think that a franchise-changing QB is on the board, you don't let the fact that you've got a veteran stopgap keep you from drafting him. Other teams could take a lesson from that."

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I wonder if Cousins is more upset that they drafted his replacement with the #7 pick or didn't use that pick to improve the team he'll (presumably) be QBing for a couple years. Like, he's in "win now" mode and they just invested in the post-Cousins era with an asset they could have used for more immediate needs. I feel like Cousins is probably more embarrassed about the situation than anything else. But he is 35 coming off an Achilles, so...

I can't feel bad for athletes who get their feelings hurt but are paid zillions. I just can't.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I agree with pretty much everything that people have said about the Pennix pick.

The one thing that they have going for them is that we judge everything in hindsight. If it turns out that in four years Pennix is a top-5 QB, then the story won't be "how foolish were the Falcons to pay Cousins and then draft Pennix in the top 10?" The story will be "The Falcons have shown that if you think that a franchise-changing QB is on the board, you don't let the fact that you've got a veteran stopgap keep you from drafting him. Other teams could take a lesson from that."

In the end, that's it. In the short term though, if you are spending money to go "all in" and yet burn a prime asset for some (hopefully) distant future, that foresight might end up benefiting your replacement more than you.