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Old 01-17-2008, 08:46 PM   #701
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Arles' vote won't be enough to swing the votes around.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:47 PM   #702
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We need an updated count anyways..
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:48 PM   #703
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Farrah and Arles, are you two in the same room giggling at each other or in separate rooms? Just curious.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:48 PM   #704
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Okay...since it's coming down to the last 10 minutes or so, I did play TPF for a season or two. That's the truth. I downloaded a mod for BBCF last month too.

I'm dirty, but I'm an ordinary villager. Any last minute questions I can answer to sway anyone?
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:49 PM   #705
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Farrah and Arles, are you two in the same room giggling at each other or in separate rooms? Just curious.

Totally different locations - I'm at the office.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:49 PM   #706
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Okay...since it's coming down to the last 10 minutes or so, I did play TPF for a season or two. That's the truth. I downloaded a mod for BBCF last month too.

I'm dirty, but I'm an ordinary villager. Any last minute questions I can answer to sway anyone?

Define dirty.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:51 PM   #707
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To follow up, Arlie can ask the question all day on what are the odds of jeheinz hitting two wolves and the DQ. The question that the wolves (BK and CR) and the DQ (DT) haven't answered is that why would I vote for Pass at a crucial time if I were a wolf?
This is a strong argument. It's the one idea (as well as DT not using a seer choice on Mau on the first day) that bother me with this. I will put it this way, I am more confident that JeHeinz is wrong than I am that you are a wolf. Yet, if I don't by JH's story, the only vote that makes sense is you (so I can also know if DT is telling the truth).

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Why would Daddy Torgo, a supposed seer, come out when he didn't have to?
The only thing I can think of is that he knew the wolves had hit either the groom, seer (BG) or the BG in back-to-back nights (which would be why no one was voted off). This means that the wolves know atleast one important guess and, given we removed one wolf, waiting for everyone to catch on to the other might be too long a wait.

Again, neither DT's or JH's story is airtight. If I took them each in a vaccum based on actions, I would say DT's is about 50% believable and JH's is 25% believable. But, given no other seer has come out, logic would dictate that one of them is right. So, I'm leaning DT.

While this may not help you, RA, we should know atleast one wolf by tomorrow and potentially the final 3 in a few steps either way. If RA is a wolf, JeHe is probably the DQ and we just need one more wolf (prob Mau - sorry bud). If RA is not a wolf, we will probably vote Barkeep. If he's a guest, that means both DT and JH are wolves. If Barkeep is a wolf then JH hit the jackpot and we win the next day.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:51 PM   #708
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I'd rather you be giggling in the same location.. but okay.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:52 PM   #709
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No problem Arlie, just playing the game, I understand.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:53 PM   #710
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:53 PM   #711
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Define dirty.

I lied about playing TPF.

I really haven't played BBCF though. I probably will when I go to Kansas City next month for two weeks though.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:55 PM   #712
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:55 PM   #713
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I lied about playing TPF.

I really haven't played BBCF though. I probably will when I go to Kansas City next month for two weeks though.

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Old 01-17-2008, 08:57 PM   #714
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This is a strong argument. It's the one idea (as well as DT not using a seer choice on Mau on the first day) that bother me with this. I will put it this way, I am more confident that JeHeinz is wrong than I am that you are a wolf. Yet, if I don't by JH's story, the only vote that makes sense is you (so I can also know if DT is telling the truth).


The only thing I can think of is that he knew the wolves had hit either the groom, seer (BG) or the BG in back-to-back nights (which would be why no one was voted off). This means that the wolves know atleast one important guess and, given we removed one wolf, waiting for everyone to catch on to the other might be too long a wait.

Again, neither DT's or JH's story is airtight. If I took them each in a vaccum based on actions, I would say DT's is about 50% believable and JH's is 25% believable. But, given no other seer has come out, logic would dictate that one of them is right. So, I'm leaning DT.

While this may not help you, RA, we should know atleast one wolf by tomorrow and potentially the final 3 in a few steps either way. If RA is a wolf, JeHe is probably the DQ and we just need one more wolf (prob Mau - sorry bud). If RA is not a wolf, we will probably vote Barkeep. If he's a guest, that means both DT and JH are wolves. If Barkeep is a wolf then JH hit the jackpot and we win the next day.

Okay, but be forewarned that there is some ploy at work here. I don't know what it is, but think about these things:

1. Why did Daddy Torgo put himself under the gun like this? He's the DQ, so why would he sacrifice himself for the wolves?

2. Is there a possibility that more than just Chief Rum and Barkeep are wolves?

3. Go for the wolves first tomorrow.

4. Bodyguard, do NOT guard Daddy Torgo.

Finally, at least Daddy Torgo will not live to see the end of the game, so that gives me some solace as well as my sacrifice for the villagers.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:58 PM   #715
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Uh, just to be clear, I lied about NOT playing TPF. I played it for a couple of seasons.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:59 PM   #716
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:59 PM   #717
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Good bye everyone. You suck Daddy Torgo!
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:59 PM   #718
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That vote meant nothing!
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:59 PM   #719
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Arrrrgh. Maybe I see why the wolves think they can win by doing this.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:00 PM   #720
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:00 PM   #721
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The vote swings to Raiders Army after some back and forth accusations. The majority decides he must check out. Suddenly Claphamsa steps up and proclaims “This is my wedding and I won’t stand for RA not being there. Barkeep must go. I never liked him anyway.”

Stunned Baarkeep shouts “ I never wanted my son to marry you anyway!” He grabs ChiefRum and says “ I wanted you to marry her” They begin to storm out of the bar and ChiefRum shouts “ There will be no wedding” ChiefRum grabs a wine glass off the bar, shatters it and jabs it into Farrahs throat. Farrah clutch’s her throat and slumps over dead.

Claphasma screams and runs to her dead fiances side and begins to weep. The rest of the guests overwhelm Barkeep and Chiefrum and detain them until the police arrive. They then all decide to celebrate Farrah Irish wake style since the wedding was paid for.

Game over, guests win an minor victory.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:00 PM   #722
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Well, I suggested earlier to check out one of the Rahn's as the seer and I hope they did especially Farrah now. LOL
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:01 PM   #723
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If DT is the drama queen, then JeHeinz's story is hopefully somewhat true. If that isn't, then they were in it together and both will be gone. I am a little nervous, though, something still doesn't quite smell right in all of this. The only gaping hole is if the seer could have been voted off without us knowing (either RendeR or neon). If that's the case, then most of my logic goes out the window and we may be in trouble.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:01 PM   #724
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wow. Thanks clap!
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:01 PM   #725
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Holy fuck, what the hell just happened?
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:02 PM   #726
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fun game, but DT why the fake reveal at this point?
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:04 PM   #727
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BAWHAHAHHA


at least we ruined the major victory for you all


really...when there were no night-kills for 2 days in a row I knew I needed to pull the fake reveal...i almost shit my pants when jeheinz revealed with the names of both of the other wolves though. I was hoping best-case scenario for a seer to counter with neither of the other wolves, or for one of the people I named to come forward with some other role and give the wolves some guidance as to who to go after. When I saw that post by jeheinz though, I knew the game was as good as over.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:04 PM   #728
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I'm dead. I was the groom.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:04 PM   #729
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Wow, so JeHeinz was the seer then and nabbed all three in three straight votes. Thanks to the bride for saving our bacon on the win.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:04 PM   #730
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I'm still shocked.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:05 PM   #731
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I'm guessing clap was the bride (could duke the vote)
Farrah was the groom (minor victory because she died)
barkeep was the mother-in-law
Chief Rum was the last wolf.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:05 PM   #732
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That was incredible.

I'll say it again.

I'm still shocked.

I still can't believe you guys fell for DT's crap. Hahahah!
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:06 PM   #733
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Holy fuck, what the hell just happened?

Well, Clap was the bride, Farrah was the Groom...Barkeep was the Mother of the Bride, and Chief Rum was the Maid of Honor or Drama Queen...I think, I'm kinda confused too...

But we won! Woohoo!
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:07 PM   #734
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That was incredible.

I'll say it again.

I'm still shocked.

I still can't believe you guys fell for DT's crap. Hahahah!

that was my first ever fake-reveal-as-seer. Figured there was no better game in which to give it a shot.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:08 PM   #735
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Wow, so JeHeinz was the seer then and nabbed all three in three straight votes. Thanks to the bride for saving our bacon on the win.

You would've won anyhow if I had died. The only one who needs to thank clap is me.

What I don't get is that you saw the truth yet failed to believe it because it was too unbelievable. If you were trying to lie about the game, wouldn't you make a lie that is believable?
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:08 PM   #736
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OK, I ended the game tonight because there is no way the wolves could have won.

I have been playing werewolf since the first ever FOFC game and I have never seen such a crazy run of luck.

Jeheinze scanned BK night 1, DT night 2 and CR night 3. In that time Pass was eliminated. To compound things the wolves kill attempt on Farrah night 2 was blocked because she was the groom. Then when they went back the next night to kill her Arles selected her for protection.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:08 PM   #737
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I was the body guard and knew we were hosed. Here's my voting to protect:

First night: no one (didn't get in on time because of my PDA).
Second Night: myself (no one came by)

When no one died on the second night and I knew something was up. So, I protected Farrah the third night as I had no idea who the groom was and figured I could atleast get credit from her if she was just a guest When I got the message that someone tried to sneak in Farrah's room - I knew she would be toast tonight as she used her autoprotect in week 2 and I can't protect the same person two nights in a row.

That's why I wasn't worried about the major victory and went with the odds on just winning.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:09 PM   #738
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To compound things the wolves kill attempt on Farrah night 2 was blocked because she was the groom. Then when they went back the next night to kill her Arles selected her for protection.

Dude, why you guys hating? Two nights in a row!
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that was my first ever fake-reveal-as-seer. Figured there was no better game in which to give it a shot.

I think you did it too soon. Had jeheinz come on and only outed one wolf, you would've been done for. Ironically, it worked out in your favor that what he did was too unbelievable for most people. Thanks mauboy for believing.
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Yeah, that is crazy.

It would've been pretty much straightforward for us the rest of the way. I'm sure Arles would've found a way to lynch me though.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:10 PM   #741
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Dude, why you guys hating? Two nights in a row!

maybe because they figured you were the groom?? idk
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:11 PM   #742
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I think you did it too soon. Had jeheinz come on and only outed one wolf, you would've been done for. Ironically, it worked out in your favor that what he did was too unbelievable for most people. Thanks mauboy for believing.

when should I have waited till? I figured with every night that went by for it too that the odds of him hitting a wolf were going up.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:11 PM   #743
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I think you did it too soon. Had jeheinz come on and only outed one wolf, you would've been done for. Ironically, it worked out in your favor that what he did was too unbelievable for most people. Thanks mauboy for believing.

I didn't need much convincing. It was pretty obvious to me and I don't know why it wasn't to others.. but it's okay. There was no way we'd lose if one of them truly was the Seer.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:11 PM   #744
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I was the body guard and knew we were hosed. Here's my voting to protect:

First night: no one (didn't get in on time because of my PDA).
Second Night: myself (no one came by)

When no one died on the second night and I knew something was up. So, I protected Farrah the third night as I had no idea who the groom was and figured I could atleast get credit from her if she was just a guest When I got the message that someone tried to sneak in Farrah's room - I knew she would be toast tonight as she used her autoprotect in week 2 and I can't protect the same person two nights in a row.

That's why I wasn't worried about the major victory and went with the odds on just winning.

Ah, I understand there. It makes perfect sense with that bit of information. I would've done the same exact thing.
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I was the body guard and knew we were hosed. Here's my voting to protect:

First night: no one (didn't get in on time because of my PDA).
Second Night: myself (no one came by)

When no one died on the second night and I knew something was up. So, I protected Farrah the third night as I had no idea who the groom was and figured I could atleast get credit from her if she was just a guest When I got the message that someone tried to sneak in Farrah's room - I knew she would be toast tonight as she used her autoprotect in week 2 and I can't protect the same person two nights in a row.

That's why I wasn't worried about the major victory and went with the odds on just winning.

Did you realize you've been using week instead of day/night the entire game?
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I am curious for feedback. Obviously it seems like the game was inbalanced but I'm not sure it was.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:12 PM   #747
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when should I have waited till? I figured with every night that went by for it too that the odds of him hitting a wolf were going up.

I would've waited until later today. I would've tried to swing votes onto me and then fake revealed later.
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I don't think the game was inbalanced. It was just some good intuition by jeheinz who gets Player of the Game for me.

I also have to throw a shout out to mauboy who was right on and clap who saved me.
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:16 PM   #749
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BK/CR - Did you all pickup on me being the drama queen before my fake reveal, or no?
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:16 PM   #750
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sorry, meant night Honestly, if Farrah wasn't my wife and I could maybe get potential kudos for protecting her, I probably would have selected to protect Oliegirl on the 3rd night. For some reason, Farrah, Olie and RA were the three I was debating on being the groom. I had no idea Clap was the bride, I figured he was a wolf before all this shook out.

The one thing I don't get is how Clap knew to switch from RA to Barkeep? I guess if you look at RA without DT's message, you wouldn't figure he would be a wolf. Still, that was a gutsy call that paid off.
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