WW LXVII - Heroes (GAME OVER! HEROES WIN!)

[DaddyTorgo]

way to go team heroes!!!

that's what i like to see happen when i check out for lunch

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

That is tough. I don't know what other people think, but I'd say hold it to yourself for now, especially since we wouldn't know if it was a result of the person you scanned or a random person blocking your action.

I didn't say I "scanned" them.. just to make it clear, I haven't described my action.. I chose to use it (whatever it is) on someone and got a viagra add as a PM.. that really threw me for a loop.. Which is why I am wondering if someone just blocked me is all.

[The Jackal]

I've probably been getting paid to surf these forums long enough, gonna get back to fully doing work now.

I'll catch up on the thread as soon as I get home.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I didn't say I "scanned" them.. just to make it clear, I haven't described my action.. I chose to use it (whatever it is) on someone and got a viagra add as a PM.. that really threw me for a loop.. Which is why I am wondering if someone just blocked me is all.

Right, right. Didn't mean to finger your role or anything, clearly you haven't revealed much about it. So it's a case of, either you got blocked by a random person who might've thought you were a wolf (or someone in the company can block night actions), or the person you used your ability on has some sort of deflection mechanism. Interesting dilemma.

[Neon_Chaos]

Thomkal, care to explain what happened in the end game there?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I've probably been getting paid to surf these forums long enough, gonna get back to fully doing work now.

I'll catch up on the thread as soon as I get home.

ditto. gotta work hard this afternoon

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Whats up with the hoopsguy vote there? Was that part of a tiebreaker, or did someone force his vote or what?

Not that I mind, just curious.

Doing a lot of catching up over a short lunch hour (haven't read my PM yet) but I didn't have anything to do with moving the vote. Great job to whoever did move the vote.

I've got comments on AE, but I want to finish reading the 100 or so posts after Alan's quoted one above first.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I've got comments on AE, but I want to finish reading the 100 or so posts after Alan's quoted one above first.

I think AE blew it when he said he didn't have a night action... to me that just really stuck out given the plain-ish role I have in this game.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

- Everyone will have some sort of ability, good guys and bad guys. Some abilities will be very powerful, some will be uh...not.

DOLA - this is why it really stuck out to me too

[nfg22]

So you also dont have a night role? That is what made AE suspicious? What does that say about you?

[nfg22]

oops
Just forgot...you are in the CoT

[nfg22]

I dont always read who posts before they post

[Barkeep49]

Lathum: I was basing my Sylar info on the post that you quoted. I didn't respond to it further because someone else had already found the post I was referring to. I'm not trying to hide, just trying to pop in and out when I have time and something to say.

[nfg22]

Ok. SnDvls I didnt read on your ability. Im confised now. You said that you have a plain ability? What did you mean by that? You said you followed someone around how is that plain? Im just trying to straighten all this

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Lathum: I was basing my Sylar info on the post that you quoted. I didn't respond to it further because someone else had already found the post I was referring to. I'm not trying to hide, just trying to pop in and out when I have time and something to say.

fair enough.

it just seems you are making alot of assumptions based on a vague statement.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by nfg22

Ok. SnDvls I didnt read on your ability. Im confised now. You said that you have a plain ability? What did you mean by that? You said you followed someone around how is that plain? Im just trying to straighten all this

Compaired to flying, switching someone's vote ect....I'd say that's pretty plain.

[hoopsguy]

OK, so thoughts on Ardent - when he said he had a passive power I was trying to guess what kind of power that might be. Well, I've got a passive power as well as The Cheerleader (yay, team!), Claire Bennet. So I thought that Ardent might have Adam Monroe and have the same power that I've got.

Additionally, I have a secondary power and that is to search for Noah Bennet. If I find him then I'll be able to send PMs to him. I've checked two people so far and haven't located him. Many of my theories on who has what role have already been proven wrong (Adam Monroe, Noah, Mohinder are three that leap to mind right away).

I'm fine with revealing what people I've scanned that aren't Noah, but that also might be a nice ace in the hole if someone fake reveals.

Also, Claude was with the Company in the show (he left eventually) and was with the Company in this game. Then again, would you say that the Haitian was with the Company (he also left)? We've got a small sample set of roles/sides up to this point, but I'm not totally sold on the idea that faction is unrelated to name despite the comments in the rules suggesting otherwise.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OK, so thoughts on Ardent - when he said he had a passive power I was trying to guess what kind of power that might be. Well, I've got a passive power as well as The Cheerleader (yay, team!), Claire Bennet. So I thought that Ardent might have Adam Monroe and have the same power that I've got.

Additionally, I have a secondary power and that is to search for Noah Bennet. If I find him then I'll be able to send PMs to him. I've checked two people so far and haven't located him. Many of my theories on who has what role have already been proven wrong (Adam Monroe, Noah, Mohinder are three that leap to mind right away).

I'm fine with revealing what people I've scanned that aren't Noah, but that also might be a nice ace in the hole if someone fake reveals.

Also, Claude was with the Company in the show (he left eventually) and was with the Company in this game. Then again, would you say that the Haitian was with the Company (he also left)? We've got a small sample set of roles/sides up to this point, but I'm not totally sold on the idea that faction is unrelated to name despite the comments in the rules suggesting otherwise.

Technically Claude was with the company far before the show's present time. He left the company before Noah Bennet did. Hoops, I am interested in your thoughts regarding Noah whom you are looking for. My speculation so far has been based on the gun killing of Ntn, he was responsible for that kill and thus company in this game..

If you are actively looking for him, would that tell you that Noah is definitly not company, or do you have some doubt to whether or not he might be company?


One other piece of information that may or may not be of interest .. Hoopsguy was the person I tried to use an action on last night.. So if his reveal is true, I don't see any power that he mentioned that would have blocked me, and thus someone else must have blocked me.

[Lathum]

Hoops, I suggest you keep your info to yourself for now.

When you check people are you told who they are, or just that they aren't noah?

[Neon_Chaos]

Gotta hit the sack soon.

I've got two people on who I would probably choose to vote for.

Thomkal - Those final ten minutes or so during the day really pinged you on my radar.

Render - He insisted that he wanted to have a race. before he voted for me, there were already 2 votes on AE. He does not vote for AE, and votes for me. Instead of actually making a race, he muddles things up even more. I think Lathum caught on to this.

[Thomkal]

Okay finally able to post after having two power outages in the last hour. I have an excuse for my not posting to save Jackal, but I'm sure it will seem lame to many. I am on a 56k modem here, and when I posted five minutes before deadline, I was catching up on posts, and then I was refreshing the screen.

I saw the move to Ardent with 2 minutes left, but because likely everybody else was refreshing, my connection crawled and I missed the deadline just as I was going to change my vote to Ardent. That's why I apologized to Jackal, because I wasn't able to move my vote in time. Lame I know but there it is.

Please note that I said I would move to Ardent, something I would clearly not do if I was a wolf with a clear lead on other non-wolves as it looks like Neon and Jackal are now. I also said I would not vote for Neon, who did move his vote to Ardent. I also said I would not vote no lynch not even to save myself, when I should have been all for the non-lynch vote if I was a wolf.

I'm certain someone scanned me last night given how much the focus was on me, and will come forward if they find out I work for the Company and/or Sylar.

[SnDvls]

well since he already say it...Alan was whom I followed yesterday

[SnDvls]

dola - said it by saying he followed hoops "the blonde women"

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

well since he already say it...Alan was whom I followed yesterday

Hmmmmmmm

I honestly don't know what to make of this.. As far as I know, I didn't follow Hoops.. the only PM I got was some stupid Viagra ad.....

So if I am to believe your story, my request went through, but I just am unaware of my actions?

I mean your story does sound real.. since I did put an action in for Hoops.. but I really don't know what to make of my PM.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

well since he already say it...Alan was whom I followed yesterday

yet Alan got a viagra ad...

[Alan T]

I guess the only thing I can think of right now is that Parkman's father is in the game and is a company member and gave me a hallucination or nightmare... Where my action went through, but I don't remember it..

Otherwise, how would Sndvls have known my action was put in for Hoops who later revealed as a blonde cheerleader, matching up with Sndvls story?

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

We've got a small sample set of roles/sides up to this point, but I'm not totally sold on the idea that faction is unrelated to name despite the comments in the rules suggesting otherwise.

It is otherwise in my case. I am on the opposite side of my character name.

[hoopsguy]

Yeah, I was wondering if I was the "blonde woman" in question. Could have been Nikki as well or maybe Elle.

Also, since there was only one kill last night I'm wondering if Ardent was marked as the killer for the Company and the kill was by Sylar. I would have expected Sylar kills to include some head-opening, but I'm having a hard time believing he is just chilling on the sidelines. And Ardent would make a ton of sense as the killer since he is not able to be followed.

Re: Noah Bennet - I don't learn any kind of faction info on HRG or the people I follow. Just whether or not they are Noah Bennet (aka Dad) Obviously, the fact that I can search for him makes me pretty sure he is in the game. Or else the moderator is having fun messing with me.

Oh, and I was a little weirded out earlier in the game when Alan said on Day 1 that "suppose Hoops is Claire and NTN is Linderman" ... I was trying to figure out what kind of role would have information on players like that and figured he could be Mohinder. But that theory died with NTN (not Linderman).

[hoopsguy]

Last note - both players I have scanned are still alive.

[hoopsguy]

I think there is some tremendous information that should be able to be built today in terms of CoT. Anyone who switched to Ardent should be absolutely not Company, as they would sacrifice themselves to protect the Cunning Wolf. I'll go through this tonight when I've got time if someone doesn't look at it between now and then.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Oh, and I was a little weirded out earlier in the game when Alan said on Day 1 that "suppose Hoops is Claire and NTN is Linderman" ... I was trying to figure out what kind of role would have information on players like that and figured he could be Mohinder. But that theory died with NTN (not Linderman).

I had forgotten I had said that. Was purely accidental.. if it makes you feel any better, I had a feeling you might be Sylar with some things you had been pushing.. so I'm feeling a little better about you now based on your reveal plus what Sndvls said prior to your reveal.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I think there is some tremendous information that should be able to be built today in terms of CoT. Anyone who switched to Ardent should be absolutely not Company, as they would sacrifice themselves to protect the Cunning Wolf. I'll go through this tonight when I've got time if someone doesn't look at it between now and then.

And another reason to believe me. I wouldn't risk losing the cunning wolf to a tiebreaker if I was a wolf.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Gotta hit the sack soon.

I've got two people on who I would probably choose to vote for.

Thomkal - Those final ten minutes or so during the day really pinged you on my radar.

Render - He insisted that he wanted to have a race. before he voted for me, there were already 2 votes on AE. He does not vote for AE, and votes for me. Instead of actually making a race, he muddles things up even more. I think Lathum caught on to this.

I honestly just didn't see the ardent votes in the list. I was reading fast to catch up with everything. *shrugs* I voted for you because someone else voted for you and I figured its a place to start. nothing more. I got nothing on you or anyone else at this point.

I have a few people I trust right now, but I'm hoping some other info comes out and corroborates things for me.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Why are my posts not adding!?!?!

Did someone turn off the post count on Werewolf games!?!?!?

That's funny.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

Vote Ardent

it just concerns me he says he has no night power and doesn't sit well with me.

Meh, have you volunteered anything?

[RendeR]

Testing Testing, This is a test, this is ONLY a test, if this were a real message it would have told you where to go and what to do.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Looks like Thomkal at 4 and a bunch of people at 2. I'm making this move partially because of Ardent placing a vote on me for no reason previously, but also I am kind of curious to see how St.Cronin will react if Ardent actually gets in trouble and risked lynching.

Unvote Nfg

Vote Ardent

Sigh.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Meh, have you volunteered anything?

me thinks you'll be a little red faced once you get to the lynch result

[Poli]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

VOTE ARDENT ENTHUSIAST

I must be dead by now.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I wouldn't count on that.

I can't speak for AE bur Narcizo and Neon are on the other side of the world and schmidty is always in his own world

Been at Barnes-Jewish Hospital and First Bank (Watson Rd). I got out early as I have a way too flipping early day tomorrow. I documented that in a post somewhere earlier.

[SnDvls]

AE is almost as good as Marc Vaughn was in the past game where he was killed as a wolf but hadn't caught up yet

[Poli]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Whats the case against Ardent? I could certainly switch to him.

It's the "I don't have a night action PM" whatever thing.

Since I don't, I'd guess someone else doesn't either. Meh.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

me thinks you'll be a little red faced once you get to the lynch result

Just trying to protect myself in case I actually lived.

Good luck, all.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

AE is almost as good as Marc Vaughn was in the past game where he was killed as a wolf but hadn't caught up yet

I'll still maintain that we got ardent as much by his not being around as any real deduction on him. I'll take the luck, don't get me wrong, but for meta-game reasons I'm not thrilled with it.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'll still maintain that we got ardent as much by his not being around as any real deduction on him. I'll take the luck, don't get me wrong, but for meta-game reasons I'm not thrilled with it.

Let me add that the stated reason people were anti-ardent turned out to be 100% truthful.

[Barkeep49]

But enough meta whining. I agree that later voters on Ardent should be more trusted.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'll still maintain that we got ardent as much by his not being around as any real deduction on him. I'll take the luck, don't get me wrong, but for meta-game reasons I'm not thrilled with it.

I'm not entirely sure I follow here. I thought the majority of the people who voted for Ardent had reasons for it (even if in the case of The Jackal / Neon it was to save themselves). Without knowing who switched Hoops' vote, I guess we can't say the reasons for that at least.

[Alan T]

Dola,

I think it might actually be worthwhile to see who brought up the whole "Ardent isn't around" as a reason not to vote for him when the run on Neon occured. If anything is metagame, that is a metagame method to try to save Ardent. I'll go back and look to see who actually started that in an effort to save ardent without appearing to try.

[SnDvls]

my vote was not for any meta-game reason at all. he fouled up on his "power/ability" and I picked up on it.

if someone else's was because he wasn't here I don't know, but I openly stated my suspicision of his statement just after he made it.

[Narcizo]

See. I told you a no lynch vote was the way to go.

That's a pretty spiffy result. Well done everyone. I realise people are going to be suspicious of me after all this so fire any concerns/questions you have at me and, erm, I'll answer them tomorrow. If I can. I don't really have time to go through closely and think about all this stuff now anyway.