2012 NFL Offseason thread - Page 15

Lathum · 03-15-2012, 10:57 AM

I think it is silly people are making a big deal of the sweatshirt color he was wearing. How many of us have sweatshirts, etc...from our alma mater? Most I would say.

MacroGuru · 03-15-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Looks very possible that Mario Williams is going to sign with the Bills tomorrow. Bold move by them. Dareus and Williams is going to be a helluva half of a defensive line.

Dareus, Williams and Williams...sounds like a law firm working the DL...

Apathetic Lurker · 03-15-2012, 12:39 PM

Super Mario is a Bill !!!!!!!!!!!

Now all we need is one more defensive end to possibly have the best D-line in football

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 03-15-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

I admit I dont know alot about English Premier League soccer...I cant even point Manchester out on a map honestly, but a quick search shows they finished in 1st place last year.

it's like the american economy. everything looks the same, but nobody actually owns anything and the price of everything keeps going up.

they also bought the team on credit then slid the debt responsibility onto the teams ledgers. like buying a house with a credit card and then changing the name on the card to 'the house'

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Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

Super Mario is a Bill !!!!!!!!!!!

huzzah!

Grover · 03-15-2012, 03:07 PM

Kendall Langford has left Cincy sans contract and is on his way to St. Louis.

Disappointing. Signing him would have been an upgrade over Fanene/Rucker.

spleen1015 · 03-15-2012, 03:34 PM

Contract “for life” would require two contracts, league approval | ProFootballTalk

Pretty crazy, IMO.

Logan · 03-15-2012, 03:47 PM

Unless the "for life" part means "You get paid $20k for showing up at each charity event we run", why would Manning tie himself down like that?

molson · 03-15-2012, 03:50 PM

Ya, I don't get how the "for life" thing is a benefit to anyone but the Titans. Manning's not going to be desperate for a job when he retires. It's sounds like something you'd offer a player in the 1950s before they were multi-millionaires. Maybe you set 'em up with your car dealership so they can support their family when their playing days are over.

JPhillips · 03-15-2012, 04:03 PM

Unless the for life includes the potential to be majority owner.

Ksyrup · 03-15-2012, 04:10 PM

One of the more underrated elements of twitter is the absolute disgust and utter disdain for Darren Rovell.

Mr. Sports Journo ‏ @BIGSPORTSWRITER
You fucking hack. RT @darrenrovell: Every 36 hours Mario Williams will make $39,335. Buffalo's median yearly household income is $39,500.

Logan · 03-15-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

One of the more underrated elements of twitter is the absolute disgust and utter disdain for Darren Rovell.

Mr. Sports Journo ‏ @BIGSPORTSWRITER
You fucking hack. RT @darrenrovell: Every 36 hours Mario Williams will make $39,335. Buffalo's median yearly household income is $39,500.

I've noticed that. Is there a story behind it?

eta: I know he comes across as a d-bag all the time, but wondering if there's even more.

Ksyrup · 03-15-2012, 04:26 PM

I don't know if one incident started it - I think it's just a build-up of his d-bag persona.

That tweet I posted came at the end of an absolute crushing he got from Bomani Jones accusing him of fomenting resentment of athletes by posting stuff like that.

Grover · 03-15-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

One of the more underrated elements of twitter is the absolute disgust and utter disdain for Darren Rovell.

I lost any and all (read: very little) respect for Rovell when he was essentially stalking Kate Upton.

Ksyrup · 03-15-2012, 04:58 PM

And acting like a diva about Super Bowl parties none of the people with "Buffalo median incomes" gets to attend. Yeah, that was funny, the way people were piling on.

Passacaglia · 03-15-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

So putting my FOF GM hat on, am I on the right track in thinking this is what Dallas and Washington were doing?

Normal capped year contract:

5 year, $45M contract, $20M bonus, base salaries of $5M each of the 5 years (I know that's not how it works but just as an example)

Cap hit would be $9M each year - $5M base + $4M/year spread bonus.

Uncapped year contract:

5 year, $45M contract, $5M bonus, $20M 1st year salary (uncapped year), $5M each of the last 4 years

Cap hit would be $21M in uncapped year, $6M each of the next 4 years.

I don't know - maybe there were specific rules prohibiting that kind of playing around that affected capped years going forward, but since they're not calling it a "violation," my guess is only 2 teams figured out a genius way to use the uncapped year to their benefit going forward, and the other 30 teams got pissed because they weren't so smart.

In FOF, contracts were not allowed to go down in later years of the deal. Not sure if that's still the case, with the new CBA and all.

Dutch · 03-15-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Isn't that the beauty of the salary floor?

You probably hadn't realized this but Jon Gruden was still being paid last season by the Bucs. It would have been insanely stupid for the ownership to allow Raheem to make long-term FA hires based on the fact that Raheem was merely the interim guy (as it turned out). The attractiveness of the Bucs job was the fact that Coach Schiano was able to come in and build *his* staff and bring in *his* philosophy and start to build around that philosophy with a clean slate. No old vets...no overpriced players that didn't fit his vision. Now he's got a bunch of young guys (still moldable) and vets FA's that he brought in. It's all making very good football sense.

stevew · 03-15-2012, 07:40 PM

I don't think the salary floor kicks in until next season.

RainMaker · 03-15-2012, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I've noticed that. Is there a story behind it?

eta: I know he comes across as a d-bag all the time, but wondering if there's even more.

He comes across like a d-bag a lot. Some of his tweets on money can be tacky. But I think what got it rolling was he created a bunch of rules about how you should act on Twitter. Then went around and DM'd people he felt were breaking them and telling them he was going to unfollow them and not allowing them to respond. Not regular Joes but other people in the media. Sort of creepy.

Darren Rovell's Unfollow DMs To Justin Stangel, Chuck Todd
Darren Rovell Is Still Policing Twitter, Douchebagilly

But the icing on the cake was this douchebag moment.

CNBC’s Darren Rovell Really Douched Up The Super Bowl, Via Twitter Naturally

stevew · 03-15-2012, 09:07 PM

Poor wittle Mike Holmgren is doing his typical bitch baby routine about the RG3 trade. Someone should go change his fucking tampon.

spleen1015 · 03-15-2012, 10:01 PM

The Colts have signed another former Eagles OL.

WTF Grigson?

Logan · 03-16-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

The attractiveness of the Bucs job was the fact that Coach Schiano was able to come in and build *his* staff

Literally!

Ksyrup · 03-16-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I don't think the salary floor kicks in until next season.

Right, buit they've got to start with some players now to come close to the floor next year.

Ksyrup · 03-16-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

He comes across like a d-bag a lot. Some of his tweets on money can be tacky. But I think what got it rolling was he created a bunch of rules about how you should act on Twitter. Then went around and DM'd people he felt were breaking them and telling them he was going to unfollow them and not allowing them to respond. Not regular Joes but other people in the media. Sort of creepy.

Darren Rovell's Unfollow DMs To Justin Stangel, Chuck Todd
Darren Rovell Is Still Policing Twitter, Douchebagilly

But the icing on the cake was this douchebag moment.

CNBC’s Darren Rovell Really Douched Up The Super Bowl, Via Twitter Naturally

He does have a punchable face.

I follow hiim because he does tweet some interesting things. Yesterday at halftime of the Syracuse game, for instance, he tweeted that one of the betting sites had Syracuse as a 10.5 point favorite for the second half. They were down 4 and won by 7. That was pretty damn amazing, and I'm glad he tweeted it.

spleen1015 · 03-16-2012, 08:56 AM

I've always wondered where he gets all of his information. He tweets so much stuff, I think some of it has to be made up.

Ksyrup · 03-16-2012, 08:58 AM

But that was in real time - it wasn't after the fact. And with him, if that was HIS guess, I'm sure he would have made everyone aware of that point.

Ksyrup · 03-16-2012, 12:50 PM

MileHighReport ‏ @MileHighReport
RT @jnsanchez: Sources say that, if Denver lands Peyton Manning, they will part ways with their first-round pick for Mike Wallace.

BillJasper · 03-16-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

MileHighReport ‏ @MileHighReport
RT @jnsanchez: Sources say that, if Denver lands Peyton Manning, they will part ways with their first-round pick for Mike Wallace.

They don't think having Wallace would help Tebow out at all?

Ksyrup · 03-16-2012, 01:04 PM

He can't throw well enough to justify spending a #1.

Rizon · 03-16-2012, 01:07 PM

Manning Tells Dolphins 'No Thanks'

"No thanks, but your organization is screwed up pretty bad."

BillJasper · 03-16-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Manning Tells Dolphins 'No Thanks'

"No thanks, but your organization is screwed up pretty bad."

That's okay. We're not that far away from being a winner.

stevew · 03-16-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

MileHighReport ‏ @MileHighReport
RT @jnsanchez: Sources say that, if Denver lands Peyton Manning, they will part ways with their first-round pick for Mike Wallace.

I duuno why our front office is dicking around with Wallace. He should have been franchised. Denver should be able to easily draft a offer that the Steelers can't match. I doubt they will even need a poison pill.

Ksyrup · 03-16-2012, 01:30 PM

Re Darren Rovell:

Why I Gave Darren Rovell The Business | Media Personality | Bomani Jones

Grover · 03-16-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Re Darren Rovell:

Why I Gave Darren Rovell The Business | Media Personality | Bomani Jones

As much as I dislike Bomani Jones, that is an excellent piece.

JonInMiddleGA · 03-16-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

They don't think having Wallace would help Tebow out at all?

That seems to be the last thing Denver wants to do.

ISiddiqui · 03-16-2012, 03:11 PM

John Abraham is coming back to Atlanta:

Predator 2: Abe’s Back | Atlanta Falcons

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 03-16-2012, 04:04 PM

so what'll it be dolphin fans? flynn? tebow? alex smith?

JPhillips · 03-16-2012, 04:41 PM

Thanks Cowboys for making sure MB can't bring back Livings!

And a bonus is that this makes it less likely the Cowboys will snatch DeCastro.

Grover · 03-16-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Thanks Cowboys for making sure MB can't bring back Livings!

And a bonus is that this makes it less likely the Cowboys will snatch DeCastro.

Yup! Didn't the Cards sign a guard too?

stevew · 03-16-2012, 05:16 PM

Someone should sign Josh Johnson and at least give him a chance. He'd also be a good backup for Teblow if they keep running that offense.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 03-16-2012, 05:19 PM

if manning signs with the titans that would potentially free up 2 starting qb's.

AlexB · 03-17-2012, 08:01 PM

Pats sign Anthony Gonzalez. Welker and Gonzalez, plus Edelman if he returns gives them a lot of sneaky slot-type receivers.

spleen1015 · 03-17-2012, 08:02 PM

How do you know how sneaky Gonzalez is? That dude hasn't been on the field since he was drafted.

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

Pats sign Anthony Gonzalez. Welker and Gonzalez, plus Edelman if he returns gives them a lot of sneaky slot-type receivers.

Better him than Brandon Lloyd. Thank god.

Apathetic Lurker · 03-17-2012, 08:48 PM

Patsies should have used their late 1st for Wallace...Would have made Welker,Gronk and Hernandez a lot scarier...

I figure they should have Gonzalez for the preseason +- a game.

Crapshoot · 03-17-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Better him than Brandon Lloyd. Thank god.

They've also signed Lloyd.

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

They've also signed Lloyd.

Is that deal done? I hadn't been paying attention the last couple days, and last I heard it was just rumored.

God that sucks. He's apparently a locker-room cancer.

flounder · 03-17-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Thanks Cowboys for making sure MB can't bring back Livings!

And a bonus is that this makes it less likely the Cowboys will snatch DeCastro.

Everything I've seen is saying that this is just insurance in case DeCastro isn't there at 14. But with Al Davis Jr. in charge of the Cowboys who knows what the hell they're thinking.

Matthean · 03-17-2012, 10:00 PM

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Lloyd, who played with the Broncos and Rams last season, didn't hide the fact that he wanted to be reunited with Josh McDaniels, his head coach in Denver who now serves as New England's offensive coordinator. In 2010, Lloyd had 77 receptions for 1,448 yards (18.8 YPC) and 11 touchdowns. This was with Kyle Orton throwing him passes.

Eye On Football - CBSSports.com Report: Patriots reach agreement with WR Brandon Lloyd

DaddyTorgo · 03-17-2012, 10:02 PM

So I guess the deal for Lloyd was 3yrs $12mil total. If so, that's really not that bad, and does speak to him wanting to come to NE. So maybe he'll behave.

I can only hope.

/trying to talk myself into it
//mostly failing

spleen1015 · 03-17-2012, 10:04 PM

What's going to happen to Lloyd if he is a pain in the ass? Belichick cuts him or trades him for 17 3rd round picks.

03-15-2012, 12:39 PM	#703
Apathetic Lurker College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo,NY	Super Mario is a Bill !!!!!!!!!!! Now all we need is one more defensive end to possibly have the best D-line in football Last edited by Apathetic Lurker : 03-15-2012 at 12:42 PM.

03-15-2012, 03:07 PM	#705
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Kendall Langford has left Cincy sans contract and is on his way to St. Louis. Disappointing. Signing him would have been an upgrade over Fanene/Rucker. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

03-15-2012, 04:03 PM	#709
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Unless the for life includes the potential to be majority owner. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-15-2012, 04:10 PM	#710
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	One of the more underrated elements of twitter is the absolute disgust and utter disdain for Darren Rovell. Mr. Sports Journo ‏ @BIGSPORTSWRITER You fucking hack. RT @darrenrovell: Every 36 hours Mario Williams will make $39,335. Buffalo's median yearly household income is $39,500. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-15-2012, 04:26 PM	#712
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I don't know if one incident started it - I think it's just a build-up of his d-bag persona. That tweet I posted came at the end of an absolute crushing he got from Bomani Jones accusing him of fomenting resentment of athletes by posting stuff like that. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-15-2012, 10:57 AM	#701
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I think it is silly people are making a big deal of the sweatshirt color he was wearing. How many of us have sweatshirts, etc...from our alma mater? Most I would say.

03-15-2012, 03:34 PM	#706
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Contract “for life” would require two contracts, league approval \| ProFootballTalk Pretty crazy, IMO.

03-15-2012, 03:47 PM	#707
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Unless the "for life" part means "You get paid $20k for showing up at each charity event we run", why would Manning tie himself down like that?

03-15-2012, 03:50 PM	#708
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Ya, I don't get how the "for life" thing is a benefit to anyone but the Titans. Manning's not going to be desperate for a job when he retires. It's sounds like something you'd offer a player in the 1950s before they were multi-millionaires. Maybe you set 'em up with your car dealership so they can support their family when their playing days are over.

03-15-2012, 04:58 PM	#714
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	And acting like a diva about Super Bowl parties none of the people with "Buffalo median incomes" gets to attend. Yeah, that was funny, the way people were piling on. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-15-2012, 07:40 PM	#717
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I don't think the salary floor kicks in until next season.

03-15-2012, 09:07 PM	#719
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Poor wittle Mike Holmgren is doing his typical bitch baby routine about the RG3 trade. Someone should go change his fucking tampon.

03-15-2012, 10:01 PM	#720
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	The Colts have signed another former Eagles OL. WTF Grigson?

03-16-2012, 08:56 AM	#724
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I've always wondered where he gets all of his information. He tweets so much stuff, I think some of it has to be made up.

03-16-2012, 08:58 AM	#725
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	But that was in real time - it wasn't after the fact. And with him, if that was HIS guess, I'm sure he would have made everyone aware of that point. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-16-2012, 12:50 PM	#726
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	MileHighReport ‏ @MileHighReport RT @jnsanchez: Sources say that, if Denver lands Peyton Manning, they will part ways with their first-round pick for Mike Wallace. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-16-2012, 01:04 PM	#728
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	He can't throw well enough to justify spending a #1. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-16-2012, 01:30 PM	#732
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Re Darren Rovell: Why I Gave Darren Rovell The Business \| Media Personality \| Bomani Jones __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-16-2012, 03:11 PM	#735
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	John Abraham is coming back to Atlanta: Predator 2: Abe’s Back \| Atlanta Falcons __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

03-16-2012, 04:04 PM	#736
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	so what'll it be dolphin fans? flynn? tebow? alex smith?

03-16-2012, 04:41 PM	#737
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Thanks Cowboys for making sure MB can't bring back Livings! And a bonus is that this makes it less likely the Cowboys will snatch DeCastro. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-16-2012, 05:16 PM	#739
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Someone should sign Josh Johnson and at least give him a chance. He'd also be a good backup for Teblow if they keep running that offense.

03-16-2012, 05:19 PM	#740
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	if manning signs with the titans that would potentially free up 2 starting qb's.

03-17-2012, 08:01 PM	#741
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	Pats sign Anthony Gonzalez. Welker and Gonzalez, plus Edelman if he returns gives them a lot of sneaky slot-type receivers. __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports!

03-17-2012, 08:02 PM	#742
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	How do you know how sneaky Gonzalez is? That dude hasn't been on the field since he was drafted.

03-17-2012, 08:48 PM	#744
Apathetic Lurker College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo,NY	Patsies should have used their late 1st for Wallace...Would have made Welker,Gronk and Hernandez a lot scarier... I figure they should have Gonzalez for the preseason +- a game.

03-17-2012, 10:02 PM	#749
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	So I guess the deal for Lloyd was 3yrs $12mil total. If so, that's really not that bad, and does speak to him wanting to come to NE. So maybe he'll behave. I can only hope. /trying to talk myself into it //mostly failing Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 03-17-2012 at 10:02 PM.

03-17-2012, 10:04 PM	#750
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	What's going to happen to Lloyd if he is a pain in the ass? Belichick cuts him or trades him for 17 3rd round picks.

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