Werewolf XXVIII: Mad Wizard and the Wolves (Game over Pg45)

[Tyrith]

Okay, I might as well run down my list now.

Anxiety - Is playing like the last game, where he was a bad guy and got caught early. Cronin vote is somewhat random, although he has been stirring up a lot of trouble these last two days. Possible lynch candidate today.

Barkeep, saldana - Don't really know enough to say, but leaning good.

Alan T - Seems to be doing all the right things so far, but that doesn't mean a whole lot in the long term.

Lathum, cronin, hoops - I'm still not convinced that everyone out of this group is safe. There seem to be a lot of "facts" being tossed out, but everyone is afraid to blow up all the cover. I think we're just missing one piece of the puzzle to figure out this entire group. Cronin and hoops would still be my primary two suspects out of this group, but a lot of that is just paranoia. Regardless, until we get more information, this group doesn't make good lynch targets.

Schmidty - The late caution to the wind switch yesterday isn't out of character for schmidty...but it also makes such great cover, because of how rash it is. If he gets through today then a lot of the pressure might come off of him. However, even if that's true, what would he have gained out of yesterday's insane switch if he were a bad guy? Mckerney was both a good guy and way out front at the time. He might be a bad guy, but it just doesn't make sense if he is.

CW, ardent - Wouldn't surprise me if one of these two is bad just because of how many of the other players we've been able to clear.

Path - If ardent is a bad guy, it's possible for path to be a bad guy too, and they were working together to manipulate the vote at the end. Also possible that path is good and was just hoping to extort information out of ardent's decision making process.

Blade - His story really confuses things, because we still don't know who deflected the attack. Unless he's a crazy convert making up crap, there ought to be someone that can tell a story of being electrocuted. I hope this person turns up by the end of the day.

And there is a person out there that can clear me out there, if it comes down to it.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

And there is a person out there that can clear me out there, if it comes down to it.

Without going back and looking, doesn't it seem like half the damn players have said something along these lines?

Am I apparently the only person who can't clear anyone and/or doesn't know anyone else?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Without going back and looking, doesn't it seem like half the damn players have said something along these lines?

Am I apparently the only person who can't clear anyone and/or doesn't know anyone else?

WIZARD!!!!!

[Tyrith]

That's because one of those people is someone I can clear, too.

[Abe Sargent]

Does anyone else have the sinking feeling that, although Blade may have been right to reveal what he knew of last night, he opened the door to a conversation that left us in a very bad place?

-Anxiety

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

WIZARD!!!!!

...the fuck?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Does anyone else have the sinking feeling that, although Blade may have been right to reveal what he knew of last night, he opened the door to a conversation that left us in a very bad place?

-Anxiety

Well i certainly didnt expect everybody and their mother to reveal roles...

[hoopsguy]

I'm intrigued that both Blade and Tyrith have mentioned that there is someone who can clear them at this point (Blade in Post #647, Tyrith in #701).

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

...the fuck?

You said your the only person no one can clear...hence wizard...take it as a bad joke and move on

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Anxiety - Is playing like the last game, where he was a bad guy and got caught early.

To be fair, I was only a lunatic for part of that game. It was also my first game with a role and this is still only my third overall game. I'm getting better I feel, but there is still a lot I don't know.

-Anxiety

[hoopsguy]

Right now I'm weighing between Schmidty and Path for today's vote. If anyone has strong feelings for why one of them is clearly a wolf I would love to hear them sooner rather than later ...

[Tyrith]

True, the last game was somewhat my fault, wasn't it?

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Right now I'm weighing between Schmidty and Path for today's vote. If anyone has strong feelings for why one of them is clearly a wolf I would love to hear them sooner rather than later ...

I'd lean towards path because of possible interactions with other wolves towards the end of that vote and Schmidty's vote switch not obviously helpful to the wolves at the time, but it's a pretty weak argument.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

You said your the only person no one can clear...hence wizard...take it as a bad joke and move on

Serves me right for reading this thread while on the phone with a client.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

True, the last game was somewhat my fault, wasn't it?

I don't know if everybody else knows this, but there was a time last game when SnDvls was awol and it was just Tyrith and Me calling the shots for a couple of days. So, you had the new guy and the other new guy running around trying to figure out what to do. It was great!



-Anxiety

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Right now I'm weighing between Schmidty and Path for today's vote. If anyone has strong feelings for why one of them is clearly a wolf I would love to hear them sooner rather than later ...

Why not Anxiety?

[Blade6119]

FYI to all, i dont think i will be around at all tomorrow...have an all day engagement, and if im back it will be close to the deadline...putting that out there now

[stevew]

Interesting!

[stevew]

Dola, thus far this is the best WW game I've read.

[Tyrith]

Having hoopsguy around along with blade to make massive post count sure does make things more interesting.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Having hoopsguy around along with blade to make massive post count sure does make things more interesting.

Ya, hoops and i make quite a fearsome posting duo...this game though cronin has matched up post for post. Its a rather welcome development for me

[hoopsguy]

Cronin, the two candidates that I'm weighing between both had late vote switches on me yesterday (yes, I realize it was between two wolves) which separates them a little bit for me from Anxiety and the others.

There seems to be enough consensus that Blade = good that I'll put him out of the picture at least for today with my vote.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Cronin, the two candidates that I'm weighing between both had late vote switches on me yesterday (yes, I realize it was between two wolves) which separates them a little bit for me from Anxiety and the others.

There seems to be enough consensus that Blade = good that I'll put him out of the picture at least for today with my vote.

That's just it though - if you assume the voting was between two wolves, it makes no sense for a wiz to move his vote late. All it does is bring attention. I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

[Abe Sargent]

Hoopsguy and Blade = post whores.

WW - the best way to increase your post count outside of dynasties.

-Anxiety

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

That's just it though - if you assume the voting was between two wolves, it makes no sense for a wiz to move his vote late. All it does is bring attention. I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

I agree with cronin. Dammit, cronin, stop making sense, I'm voting for you right now!


-Anxiety

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

I agree with cronin. Dammit, cronin, stop making sense, I'm voting for you right now!


-Anxiety

While im not agreeing with either side, cronin wants to vote you...how can you agree with him?

[Tyrith]

Cronin can still be right, it serves Anxiety's interests to try to persuade cronin that he isn't a bad guy by saying what's best for the team, even if he doesn't believe it.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Right now I'm weighing between Schmidty and Path for today's vote. If anyone has strong feelings for why one of them is clearly a wolf I would love to hear them sooner rather than later ...

I am not sure that either is clearly a wolf or vice versa. I do feel both played in ways that felt erratic to me and even to the point of detremental for our team. Maybe it will help your decision, but I could go either way on voting for a handful of people right now (including Path, Schmidty and Anxiety). I think I feel better keeping my vote right now on Path just because he is the only one of the three that seems "attached" to someone else right now. Whether it was intentional or not, Path and Ardent both played pretty convienantly together at the end. It made it look like Path was good for not voting mckerney and made Ardent not look horribly bad because he was forced into the position.

If Path is bad, I likely will vote for Ardent tommorrow. If Path is good, I'll probably have to look at Schmidty or Anxiety for tommorrow

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

WW - the best way to increase your post count outside of dynasties.

-Anxiety

Indeed

[Tyrith]

Alan makes a good point, if we get path as a bad guy then we can probably roll up Ardent with him. That's nearly enough to pull me into making a vote for now.

VOTE PATH

[stevew]

I think that things are not as they seem. That one person in particular is not who he says he is, and that this will be the key crux that decides who wins this round.

[Barkeep49]

Saldana: Hoops brought up a good point. Do we have the same role? Or similar ones? Are you interested in exploring this?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by stevew

I think that things are not as they seem. That one person in particular is not who he says he is, and that this will be the key crux that decides who wins this round.

I think this is the safest ww statement ever.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

While im not agreeing with either side, cronin wants to vote you...how can you agree with him?

Cronin was pointing out to hoopsguy that since hoops was one of the two people in the running yesterday, then people who switched back and forth might be wolves, and not antagonists, because the antagonists would not have needed to reveal themselves.

Hoopsguy should be operating under the assumption that he himself is a wolf, which means that he should be looking elsewhere.

It does not necessarily mean he should look at me, of course

That leads me to ask a question of hoops, why are you looking at those people then, in light of the fact that you believe yourself to be a wolf?

-Anxiety

[path12]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Without going back and looking, doesn't it seem like half the damn players have said something along these lines?

Am I apparently the only person who can't clear anyone and/or doesn't know anyone else?

Nope. I'm in the same boat.

[Poli]

I tried to post a few minutes ago, but this computer is acting screwy.

What reason did path give for voting for me? I must have missed it.

VOTE Path

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Why not Anxiety?

He just hinted at a role that compels us to give him the benefit of the doubt on.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Whether it was intentional or not, Path and Ardent both played pretty convienantly together at the end. It made it look like Path was good for not voting mckerney and made Ardent not look horribly bad because he was forced into the position.

If Path is bad, I likely will vote for Ardent tommorrow. If Path is good, I'll probably have to look at Schmidty or Anxiety for tommorrow

You do realize my vote is on Ardent right now, don't you?

[Tyrith]

Path and ardent are voting for each other, how interesting. Certainly flies in the face of some of the theory put out there, but it's still early.

[path12]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I tried to post a few minutes ago, but this computer is acting screwy.

What reason did path give for voting for me? I must have missed it.

VOTE Path

The fact that the last game, you know, the one you weren't playing in, you had around 40 posts and so far you've got closer to five is my main reason. I think that's enough of a change in style to deserve a vote.

[path12]

Back to work for awhile. Hopefully you guys will find a more profitable direction to pursue.

[Tyrith]

Current:

path - 4: AlanT (560), barkeep (602), Tyrith (730), ardent (736)
anxiety - 2: st.cronin (687), lathum (689)
schmidty - 1: saldana (561)
hoops - 1: blade (637)
ardent - 1: path (564)
st.cronin - 1: anxiety (676)

[Poli]

Originally Posted by path12

The fact that the last game, you know, the one you weren't playing in, you had around 40 posts and so far you've got closer to five is my main reason. I think that's enough of a change in style to deserve a vote.

Yeah, the fact that I

1. Am not on leave
2. Don't exactly have a home
3. Don't exactly have access to a computer a lot right now
4. And scrambling to get everything completed before I transfer on Saturday

should have effect on that, either.

[Poli]

Pfft.

The only reason I have a computer right now is I'm supposed to be filling out some form for my passport.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I think this is the safest ww statement ever.

You're probably right.

[stevew]

I'm trying to catch up to the others that have over 2500 posts in WW threads.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by path12

You do realize my vote is on Ardent right now, don't you?

I think that is something that is really bothering me about today. Until a little bit ago, there were 8 votes out total for 6 different people. I think thats worse than many day 1 vote spreads even. Its pretty easy to jump onto bandwagons when its wolf vs wolf, but when its this spread out, it makes me feel like something is up and people are positioning somehow for late day movements.

Im about to head out of here to go home, but will be on for a while before deadline. I'm not afraid to change my vote if need be, but I need some convincing.

[Coffee Warlord]

I still don't have the full feel of things yet. But, a smidge of a bad feeling plus one other thing that I'd prefer to keep quiet right now makes me cast the vote for...

Vote St Cronin

[stevew]

Damn, I didnt realize Turlos was still around.

[Abe Sargent]

I'm taking off in a few minutes to go play Magic. I hope that I'll be able to check back in and see what's going on later. Good luck to us. Well, some of us Good luck to the pack.

-Anxiety