Werewolf CXL - The Dark Knight Returns - GAME OVER

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I do. I understand that villagers do it, I've done it myself as a villager but I think that wolves have more interest in worrying about how their votes than villagers do.

Wolves have more interest in worrying about their votes than villagers do If it has an effect on a known (to them) wolf otherwise, not so much.

[ntndeacon]

But before we really know that that is lupine or villagerine, we need to know what the allegiances of day one targets are.

[Narcizo]

I meant they are worried about how their votes look.

Sorry about not being clear.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by saldana

i didnt see anything strange about hoops from yesterday. i think it is much more likely that two face simply eliminated a dangerous villager

I completely agree with this. And with the mechanics of this game, going after a dangerous village has potential conversion value - there's lots of potential value to be had.

[ntndeacon]

Well that is true regardless of when they vote.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I'm thinking more in terms of people voting him. Normally I'd see people voting Hoops on day one as more suspicious than average but I'm not sure in these circumstances.

I know when I was on hoops I really, really didn't want to be, I just didn't want to D1 Zinto for meta reasons. This is why I switched as soon as it made sense.

[DaddyTorgo]

Has anyone thought about the fact that we may have had suspicious villagers voting (and possibly unvoting quickly) for Two Face during the day?

There might be a pattern there worth trying to tease out...

[Tyrith]

Narcizo's thinking at 678 is pretty much completely in line with what I'm thinking about where we are right now. We're still really firing blind right now.

My number one concern for the village is that we're going to wind up going down rabbit trails for several days. We're really just trying to play counter-espionage to the attempts of the deranged citizens to alert Two-Face to their identity. There are any number of things we all do or say in WW without thinking about it that could be used as a hint by a deranged citizen, or construed as a hint by Two-Face or by one of us.

This isn't going to be a case where there's a single glaring signal we're looking for - we have to be very open minded as to what the nature of a signal might be, and the people we think may or may not be giving those signals. With CR's idea from yesterday, for instance - I think it's a good thought, but I also don't think we can give any idea too much credence at this point.

Right now I think the village mostly needs to be biding its time while we accumulate seer scans. Personally, I don't think we have good enough data to press too hard for any individual at this point. Frankly, I don't like Danny pushing for Commo here - I haven't played with him before, but he seems like a player with some pretty good ideas, and I think running him off with another vocal player on D2 is using up a potentially value resource for very marginal benefit.

If it comes down to the two candidates we have, I will vote for CF. My preference would be to vote for a UTR who voted for a known good yesterday, though - this would have to be dzilla or mauboy.

[J23]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Narcizo's thinking at 678 is pretty much completely in line with what I'm thinking about where we are right now. We're still really firing blind right now.

My number one concern for the village is that we're going to wind up going down rabbit trails for several days. We're really just trying to play counter-espionage to the attempts of the deranged citizens to alert Two-Face to their identity. There are any number of things we all do or say in WW without thinking about it that could be used as a hint by a deranged citizen, or construed as a hint by Two-Face or by one of us.

This isn't going to be a case where there's a single glaring signal we're looking for - we have to be very open minded as to what the nature of a signal might be, and the people we think may or may not be giving those signals. With CR's idea from yesterday, for instance - I think it's a good thought, but I also don't think we can give any idea too much credence at this point.

Right now I think the village mostly needs to be biding its time while we accumulate seer scans. Personally, I don't think we have good enough data to press too hard for any individual at this point. Frankly, I don't like Danny pushing for Commo here - I haven't played with him before, but he seems like a player with some pretty good ideas, and I think running him off with another vocal player on D2 is using up a potentially value resource for very marginal benefit.

If it comes down to the two candidates we have, I will vote for CF. My preference would be to vote for a UTR who voted for a known good yesterday, though - this would have to be dzilla or mauboy.

This in general makes a lot of sense to me. I don't think voting for a villager yesterday necessarily damns someone, but it's all the information that we have thus far. In all fairness, you could also look at someone like me who had essentially a throw-away vote since I never made it back to move it.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Narcizo's thinking at 678 is pretty much completely in line with what I'm thinking about where we are right now. We're still really firing blind right now.

My number one concern for the village is that we're going to wind up going down rabbit trails for several days. We're really just trying to play counter-espionage to the attempts of the deranged citizens to alert Two-Face to their identity. There are any number of things we all do or say in WW without thinking about it that could be used as a hint by a deranged citizen, or construed as a hint by Two-Face or by one of us.

This isn't going to be a case where there's a single glaring signal we're looking for - we have to be very open minded as to what the nature of a signal might be, and the people we think may or may not be giving those signals. With CR's idea from yesterday, for instance - I think it's a good thought, but I also don't think we can give any idea too much credence at this point.

Right now I think the village mostly needs to be biding its time while we accumulate seer scans. Personally, I don't think we have good enough data to press too hard for any individual at this point. Frankly, I don't like Danny pushing for Commo here - I haven't played with him before, but he seems like a player with some pretty good ideas, and I think running him off with another vocal player on D2 is using up a potentially value resource for very marginal benefit.

If it comes down to the two candidates we have, I will vote for CF. My preference would be to vote for a UTR who voted for a known good yesterday, though - this would have to be dzilla or mauboy.

*FLASHING LIGHTS*

HEY TWO FACE....PICK ME!!!!!

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Just Listened to: Genesis, Land of Confusion

Now Listening to: Tricky, Ed Kowalczyk, Hawkman "Evolution, Revolution, Love"

Next in the Queue: The Echoing Green, Crybaby

Abe gets an A.

[MrBug708]

ffscd

[MrBug708]

whoops...phone post

[J23]

Vote mauboy

Not thrilled with the people who have votes now, and not sure that I'll be around later tonight, so I want to make sure I get a vote in.

[PackerFanatic]

Oh crap...sorry guys, was working from home all day and totally forgot about this. I will get a vote in at some point tonight after I attempt to catch up

[The Jackal]

Been away from Internet all day and going to my brothers hockey game so I'll check back in after that

[CrimsonFox]

Have to catch a bus. Probably out past deadline.
My final thoughts.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Has anyone thought about the fact that we may have had suspicious villagers voting (and possibly unvoting quickly) for Two Face during the day?

There might be a pattern there worth trying to tease out...

I think this was already covered previously by...Chief? It's not necessarily a bad way to go about things, but it seems risky for the disturbed citizens to all unknowingly do it the first day?

[dzilla77]

Just catching up now -not really thrilled with the candidates right now, but don't have much to offer either. Will get a vote in later tonight.

[dzilla77]

Ok so it looks like its 4/3/1/1 (CF/Como/Zinto/Mau).

I'll throw a another vote on Mau.

Vote Mauboy

[dzilla77]

Oops gotta bold it.

Vote Mauboy

[MrBug708]

Did I miss the Mau reasons? Or just his post and run style?

[Chief Rum]

I'll stand behind my pet theory. Got nothing better.

VOTE CRIMSON FOX

[ntndeacon]

Unvote Crimson
Vote Mau

[ntndeacon]

This is more about keeping the vote tight than anything else

[Zinto]

Argh, I do not know what to make about the candidates. I am not going to vote for Crimson since I do not feel like he is a baddie. Commo is being himself as far as I can tell and I do not have a read on Mau at all.

[MrBug708]

As for commo I thunk ny instinct is to go counter to what he thinks

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

As for commo I thunk ny instinct is to go counter to what he thinks

considering I was all for Hoops being a villager not sure that is the best choice without other reasoning.

[Commo_Soldier]

As of 728
Day 2
CrimsonFox votes CrimsonFox (1) 591
CommoSoldier votes CrimsonFox (2) 615
NTN votes CrimsonFox (3) 644
Lathum votes CrimsonFox (4) 661
Danny votes CommoSoldier (1) 664
Narcizo votes CommoSoldier (2) 669
SnDvls votes Zinto (1) 674
McKerney votes CommoSoldier (3) 689
J23 votes Mauboy (1) 713
Dzilla votes Mauboy (2) 721
CheifRum votes CrimsonFox (5) 723
NTN unvotes CrimsonFox (4) 724
NTN votes Mauboy (3) 724


4 – CrimsonFox – CrimsonFox, CommoSoldier, Lathum, ChiefRum
3 – CommoSoldier – Danny, Narcizo, McKerney
3 – Mauboy – J23, Dzilla, NTN
1 – Zinto – SnDvls

No Vote: PackerFanatic, Zinto, Mauboy, MrBug, Jackal, Saldana, Tyrith, DaddyTorgo

[Zinto]

I am going to vote Mau just because I like him as a candidate more than Commo and Crimson at this point.

Vote Mau

[Commo_Soldier]

I must say I like at least one other am skeptical of people not voting yet, making this something that gets decided late which hurt us big yesterday.

[MrBug708]

Vote - CF

He's been weird, almost too weird

[MrBug708]

Does this mean I can be in the Commo circle of trust finally?

[Tyrith]

I have this bad feeling I'm getting lynched tomorrow due to math.

VOTE MAUBOY1

[Danny]

Vote commo

[Danny]

Does it keep counting every time I vote it?

[The Jackal]

Why commo, Danny?

[The Jackal]

I'm leaning mau over both the others I think

[The Jackal]

vote mau

[The Jackal]

I should be home to check on things before deadline, phone posting sucks

[Zinto]

Welp I am not a fan of this run on Mau so....


Unvote Mau
Vote Commo

[Zinto]

I would like to hear from Mau though since I do not think he has posted since he got voted for.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Why commo, Danny?

Gl getting an answer. Best I could tell after asking is I didn't vote abe or zinto yesterday, when I voted and stayed on zinto. I think today might be better if it were danny in the running.

[Commo_Soldier]

I'm off to NBDA, will keep checking but limited access

[MrBug708]

There are either going to be a lot of posters not voting or a lot of fluctuations in this last hour and twenty

[MrBug708]

NBDA? National Black Deafs Association?

[saldana]

crimson has been a little bit too off for me...if you want to call it acting deranged, perhaps... i was happy with my vote for him yesterday, and see no reason to change it today

vote Crimsonfox

[Commo_Soldier]

national beer drinkers association

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

There are either going to be a lot of posters not voting or a lot of fluctuations in this last hour and twenty

I am not really a fan of how these two days have played out. It is not really in the villages best interest to not vote the entire day especially in this number.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

national beer drinkers association

Ah, gotcha. Is it a club?

There is a dive bar over here called "Drinkers Hall of Shame"