06-27-2024, 10:16 PM | #701 |
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Biden - .52 Newsom - .27 Harris - .15 Clinton - .05 Buttigieg - .02 Pritzker - .02 I think the Newsom money is bad. If Biden steps aside now, Harris gets the nomination.
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06-27-2024, 10:20 PM | #702 |
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How is Whitmer not up there?
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06-27-2024, 10:23 PM | #703 | |
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That would be like shooting the golden goose. Entirely on brand though.
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06-27-2024, 10:24 PM | #704 | |
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There is the worshipper, always one of you. Trump is so much younger than Biden, 3 years? Anyways, I'm curious how one has dementia if he can answer a question with an answer that is rational and well thought out, but the other guy acts like a monkey throwing his feces from the diapers he wears. A sign of dementia is an inability to act rationally and follow instructions. Mango Mussolini failed miserably on both. |
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06-27-2024, 10:26 PM | #705 |
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06-27-2024, 10:47 PM | #706 |
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That's a new one. Donald Trump is a narcissist, unhinged liar and your response is Joe Biden insisted on this format. Why do you think he lied on a national television about something is so obviously true and something he would love to brag about? Probably because he's a con man. He doesn't want to lose his precious religious suckers that love him because he cheated on his wife with some whore. |
06-27-2024, 11:05 PM | #707 | |
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You complained about the format of the debate and insinuated it was setup to help Trump. I simply stated that the format was one that the Biden team insisted on. I see you're on to stage 2 though. Bargaining up next. |
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06-27-2024, 11:15 PM | #708 | |
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I'm glad you know what i think better than me. Trump is old, a felon, a moron and a liar, while Biden is just old. You never explained why you worship a cheat, liar and overall terrible human being? I'm curious. Is that because you relate to that? Do you go out in a public and push old women in the street or something? Rob poor kids of their milk money? Last edited by Saul Goode : 06-27-2024 at 11:17 PM. Reason: Poor kids |
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06-27-2024, 11:32 PM | #709 |
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I don't support Trump and will not be voting for him. I would prefer he lose which is why I am upset people like you insisted on Joe Biden.
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Scratch that. Definitely not looking forward to Sep debate and it's obvious that Joe should have avoided the Jun debate. Say "it's pretty clear everyone knows what he and I stand for based on our records, and he'll lie anyway on the stage, so why waste time". Joe's cognitive decline was pretty obvious on stage. I'd welcome being as sharp as he is when I'm that age, but the contrast from 4 years ago and contrast to Trump in performance (not content) is striking. But as I've said, debates matter. This time it worked against Joe and, if he loses, will be a major reason. ... Dems better get real, real serious about the House & Senate. Last edited by Edward64 : 06-28-2024 at 04:35 AM. |
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06-28-2024, 05:39 AM | #711 | |
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under no circumstances will Biden step aside. I mean dems never learned that (*cough* rbg *cough*) |
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06-28-2024, 06:14 AM | #712 |
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06-28-2024, 06:21 AM | #713 |
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PS debates don't matter one bit
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06-28-2024, 06:26 AM | #714 | |
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I'll let things settle down for a couple days and see how I feel (doubt it'll change), but right now I believe Thomas Friedman has it right.
Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race. – DNyuz Quote:
It'll be tough for Joe but he should step aside for the greater good. I really don't think Kamala can win it, so I'm thinking Newsome (and/or Michelle) is the best shot the Dems have. But even if Joe doesn't step aside, I'll still vote for him. |
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06-28-2024, 06:27 AM | #715 |
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Al Gore is younger than both Trump and Biden.
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06-28-2024, 06:33 AM | #716 |
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So is RFK Jr. ... and he's younger than Al. He's starting to look better and better everyday in a 3 person race. Last edited by Edward64 : 06-28-2024 at 06:33 AM. |
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06-28-2024, 06:53 AM | #718 |
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Dola: Though I will say you may be on to who the real winner last night ends up. I wonder what his bump in the polls will be?
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06-28-2024, 06:58 AM | #719 |
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I didn't watch a second of the debate and I don't understand why anyone would, but it appears Joe Biden was the only person in America to have a worse day yesterday than Tim Weah.
Biden should step aside, but all that would do for him is provide some legacy/face-saving ("he did the honorable thing") rather than adding a humiliating defeat to his record. But doing the honorable thing left the building about a year ago. I don't believe it would actually change the outcome of the election for a new candidate to replace him now. No one likes Harris. Any of the others would just be thrown into a fight with little armor or weapons and no time to MacGyver anything. To bookend my comment yesterday, I suppose the only bright side to Trump winning is we delay a potential Constitutional crisis to beyond January 2025 since he won't have an election loss to try to overturn in whatever ways he could force GOP states and Congresspeople to do it for him.
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I would absolutely not vote RFK, and I guarantee one or more 3rd party candidates with better, more moderate/sane track records would enter the race.
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06-28-2024, 07:20 AM | #722 |
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Dear Joe. You saved us once in 2020. Thank you. We are in your debt. But the saving move this time is to step aside and let someone younger and more vigorous take up the fight. You've done your job. Now let the next person take the mantle. History will be kind to you if you step aside.
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06-28-2024, 07:34 AM | #723 |
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RFK Jr.? Not voting for an anti-vax conspiracy theory maniac, thanks.
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06-28-2024, 09:43 AM | #727 |
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Down goes Chevron.
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06-28-2024, 10:24 AM | #728 | |
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This is where I stand. I will still vote Biden but he virtually has zero chance to win. Most voters aren't particularly informed and anyone who watched that last night isn't going to be won over by Joes performance. |
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06-28-2024, 10:33 AM | #729 |
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They didn't even have to watch to know that Joe was terrible and reinforced every (over the top) thing the GOP has said about him. They just have to watch GMA, or take a brief look at headlines from around various media about the debate. I mean, I expect Fox News to destroy Biden, but I woke up this morning to Sky News and BBC headlines about what a disaster Biden was. So it's not like it matters whether you are in your own echo chamber - his performance was universally panned and a fair number of people are openly questioning whether he should step aside for the good of the country and to preserve his legacy (nevermind that it's too late - all that matters is that these are the discussion topics).
Add on that thanks to the SC, Trump now has more fuel to argue J6 criminals were railroaded and even that seemingly slam-dunk topic has now been partially derailed. Pretty terrible 18 or so hours. Not sure how much worse it could be for Biden, apart from a legit medical episode.
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If I am Iran, China, etc...today is the day I seriously consider launching any planned attacks on America or allies.
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Lost in last night's disaster, BTW, was the fact that Trump dropped the term "black jobs" which in a normal presidential debate would have been a scandal.
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Eh, it wasn't lost on many Black posters on Twitter.
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06-28-2024, 10:58 AM | #734 | |
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06-28-2024, 11:11 AM | #735 |
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Bidens only real chance now is Trump having a medical emegenvy prior to the election. Ill of course be voting for Biden but neither should be anywhere near the ballot.
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06-28-2024, 12:27 PM | #736 |
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Time to dust off all those 'leaving the country' fantasies.
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06-28-2024, 12:53 PM | #737 |
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What's the hit rate on people actually following through on that in recent cycles? Under 1%?
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06-28-2024, 01:00 PM | #738 |
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I've already dusted mine off, but it's just that - a fantasy. He didn't say anything about people following through with it.
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Okay, legit question, since I'm not inclined to fall into the rabbit hole of looking up specifics but I figure someone here probably has already done the reading.
In Georgia, as a baseline, there is precedent in local elections for a candidate to (for example) die before an election but after ballots are printed. In those cases, votes for Deceased Cand. A are counted for Replacement Candidate B. In other instances, votes for a deceased candidate are discarded entirely, only votes for other candidate(s) are counted. So a variety of methods basically, both of which have been used right here in my own county since we got here. Let's say that Joe is incapacitated and steps aside. Let's further say (hypothetically) that Trump has a medical incident and dies outright.* What happens in states where ballots are already locked in? And does it matter that there are difference circumstances to the two departures? *Doing the deceased thing here in order to set up a "are there differences in the rules for different reasons" scenario.
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There's clips on Twitter of Joe's rally in NC today. He's much more passionate and clear. Why didn't that guy show up last night? Is it just the Teleprompter? It's just too late to change candidates now so have to hope that Joe has it in him to show up for the 2nd debate.
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06-28-2024, 01:17 PM | #741 |
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Is Trump going to show up for a second debate? Why would he?
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Fair question.
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Is Joe going to show up to the second debate? He wasn't there the first time around.
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Probably FAR under. In reality that's at least a combination of finding a new job, moving all of your shit across the world, and endless discussions/conflicts with family. A combo meal of everybody's favorites.
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06-28-2024, 01:56 PM | #745 |
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You also have to find a job in an English speaking country or in a corporation that is multi-national enough you can speak English, and is willing to sponsor you and deal with the red tape and the penalties to hire on a visa. And then if you are looking to move to Europe, outside of the UK pretty much the entire continent is moving to the right of Trump anyway right now.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Ironically, we are considering moving back just in time for what is increasingly looking like a comfortable Trump win. We'll see how much that influences the decision over the next few months, but culturally being in a non-English speaking country has been tough. |
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We moved to Switzerland in mid-2022
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Interesting. Did you move principally for political reasons, or it just happened to coincide with an opportunity or a "fuck it, let's try something different" type of decision?
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