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10-24-2019, 07:01 PM
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WTF was the point of all of this? Why was this weighing so heavy on his chest that it required this sort of explosion?
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10-24-2019, 07:27 PM
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from that SI article (emphasis mine) Quote:
I'd bet a nickel that there's history with that unidentified reporter.
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10-24-2019, 07:44 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: The Mountains
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He's complained about her tweeting domestic violence hotlines when Osuna was pitching. So his issue appears to be with domestic violence advocacy. And he wanted the Osuna discount for being damaged goods, but got mad if anyone brought up why he was damaged goods. She brought it up anyway, so she was a target (and he was probably even more riled up by the fact that two other women dared to be in the vicinity). Last edited by molson : 10-24-2019 at 07:45 PM. |
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10-24-2019, 09:37 PM
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Well I had a similar reaction to molson when I read the story. Why is this guy celebrating domestic violence? It was not just what Brandon Taubman said. It's why is Taubman lashing out while Osuna stayed quiet. It's the Astros' initial statement, one calling the reporter a liar despite the incident happening in the winning locker room after one of the most dramatic endings to a LCS thus having several other witnesses. It's Taubman apologizing for the thing the Astros said did not happen. It's the Astros putting out a statement that they were firing him today because all of a sudden "His conduct does not reflect the values of our organization...". Values that must have come into existence after the first two statements came out but before the formal investigation. Finally, it's not having a plan to deal with the continued backlash for trading Osuna in the first place. Hell, they could have asked the Yankees who had Aroldis Chapman pitching in the same game. Nothing Taubman or the Astros did or said in this situation made any sense whatsoever.
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"The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946 |
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10-24-2019, 10:03 PM
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It was unprofessional. That alone was stupid. He should not have said anything. Had any of us celebrated a co-worker who was fired or suspended for an outrageous action to a client, we would have been reprimanded at the least.But this being a public corporation, he was fired.
Duh.
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10-24-2019, 10:24 PM
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Ah, there we go then. (I literally had no idea what the history was but as soon as I saw that reference in the article I kinda figured that was going to be part of it) .
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10-24-2019, 10:32 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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Now we need the full story on how the Astros released a message that the incident never happened and the reporter was lying.
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10-24-2019, 10:37 PM
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Location: Minnesota
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Probably originated from the guy that was fired. He spoke for the organization on how to comment to the story??? Since hes gone I bet nothing else comes out. |
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10-28-2019, 07:54 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Thoughts after game 5? Will the Astros wrap this up or will the road team continue to win?
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10-28-2019, 07:59 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Its going to game 7 because Verlander can't win the in the WS.
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10-28-2019, 10:53 AM
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Washington is resembling the 96 Braves.
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10-29-2019, 10:14 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Land O Lakes FL
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Beanball war between the Nationals and the Astros next year, no?
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"The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946 |
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10-29-2019, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: homeless in NJ
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I can’t believe they just made that call in game 6 of the World Series.
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10-29-2019, 10:51 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: homeless in NJ
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This is why baseball is dying. It’s 10:50 on the east coast and these dopes are on their headsets to NY in the middle of a 15 minute delay on a call that should have never been made.
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10-29-2019, 10:58 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Morgan Hill, CA
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Rendon bailed out MLB on that one.
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10-29-2019, 11:06 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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What exactly was the point of replay there? It was blatantly obvious to everyone the umps messed up. Did they all have to stand there like fools to see how bad they messed up without any intention of changing it? Also, why did the runner on 1st not at least get 2nd base? I mean it was a given that he was going to make 2nd base?
The umpire should have just given Dave Martinez one shot to punch him in the face after that complete disaster of a call. Last edited by jbergey22 : 10-29-2019 at 11:11 PM. |
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10-30-2019, 12:35 AM
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That was a very bad call.
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10-30-2019, 07:17 AM
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It was 100% the right call.
If the rule is bad, fine. Remove it. As long as it is a rule, you have to call it.
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10-30-2019, 09:18 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Minnesota
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I believe its a judgement call in which common sense was overlooked in this case. Turner ran a straight line to first and was in no way trying to disrupt the throw or the catch. I believe the rule is there for them blatant attempts as disrupting either the throw or the catch. Perhaps its time for the softball extra base in foul territory if they cant get this part of the game right. Last edited by jbergey22 : 10-30-2019 at 09:18 AM. |
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10-30-2019, 02:20 PM
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He was running on the inside of the line where he shouldn't based on a rule.
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10-30-2019, 02:40 PM
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It's an oddity of the rule book. Generally there's an understanding that the runner gets the back half of the 1st base bag and the fielder gets the front half. If you play to the rule as it's written the runner doesn't have a direct path to 1st. Turner does push the limits a bit here but I'll guarantee several players took that exact same or similar path down the line last night and no call was made and no warning given. I've seen what was called last night exactly one time and that was in a 18u game this summer my son was playing in. You typically see more bitching by first base coaches about the 1st baseman's foot creeping onto the back half of the bag which prevents the runner from having a direct path and can cause injury. The rule does need cleaned up and maybe this incident leads to that. However, I can't see that getting called by most umps. Turner did nothing to intentionally interfere with the throw and the reason this became a problem was the throw was offline which took the fielder's glove into the runner. Typically, in that situation it's a play on. |
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10-30-2019, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Pacific
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Time to add the safety base like in they have in HS softball. That call would have been much easier and less controversial.
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10-30-2019, 05:45 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Watched that first base play for the first time this afternoon.
Live? I thought he might have been out of the baseline. Replay? He's clearly inside and the call is the correct as made. I can't understand how this is remotely controversial, it's pretty damned black & white. The runner fucked up.
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10-30-2019, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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Or you could say a shitty throw was bailed out by a stupid rule? |
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10-30-2019, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Puyallup, WA
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By the letter of the rule he's out. So is just about every player trying to beat out an infield single or bunt. If MLB wants it called then call it consistently and everyone can see just how ridiculous the rule actually is. If you run in the defined baseline to 1st then you have move back into fair territory for your last step in order to hit the bag. It gives the runner no right of way to any part of the bag though. Just the defined running lane on the way to the bag. What I described above is the way that rule is called at all levels over 99% of the time. Because it works for both the runner and the fielder. It's why catchers will clear a lane to throw on a dropped 3rd and the 1st baseman make adjustments to throws with the runner in mind. Last edited by Atocep : 10-30-2019 at 06:02 PM. |
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10-30-2019, 06:23 PM
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There's nothing ridiculous about the rule, it's a pretty basic tenant of the game -- "don't run outside the basepath". It's taught at a pretty early fucking age. Just because asshats think the rules don't apply to them doesn't make it a bad rule. That's on the asshats who break a pretty simple rule. If it bites them in the ass, that's karma doing its thing occasionally. There is nobody to blame here but the batter/runner.
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10-30-2019, 10:32 PM
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Holy shit.
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10-30-2019, 10:54 PM
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This is a great game
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10-31-2019, 12:12 AM
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Felt like Greinke deserved better from that start. Really don't think he should have been pulled there.
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10-31-2019, 12:21 AM
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Agree! I bet Hinch is wishing #1 he didnt make the change and #2 wishing he had brought in Cole instead of Harris Such a strange game sometimes. Best home team in baseball cant win 1 out of 4 at home when it matters most. And Strasberg made himself around 100 million extra dollars by how he pitched lately. Last edited by jbergey22 : 10-31-2019 at 12:24 AM. |
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10-31-2019, 12:30 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Troy, Mo
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Congratulations to the Washington Nationals!!! Love seeing a team win their first World Series!!!!!
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10-31-2019, 06:38 AM
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Location: Land O Lakes FL
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I love seeing these types of videos from championship celebrations. Double digit vets finally winning one.
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"The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946 |
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10-31-2019, 07:17 AM
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Location: Pacific
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Poor Bryce Harper.
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10-31-2019, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA
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Congrats to the Nats fans on here!
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10-31-2019, 08:34 AM
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He predicted it.
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10-31-2019, 10:04 AM
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11-01-2019, 08:48 PM
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Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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New York Mets hire former player Carlos Beltran as manager
The Mets really are the gift that keeps on giving.
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11-12-2019, 10:43 PM
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Location: Land O Lakes FL
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I thought this sort of stuff made baseball charming?
Ex-Astros pitcher Mike Fiers - Team stole signs with camera
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"The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946 |
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11-12-2019, 11:05 PM
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You don't get to high-tech it.
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11-13-2019, 12:33 AM
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Can't stand the Kapler hire for the Giants. I'm a big Zaidi guy, but I just don't see it with Kapler. Hope I'm wrong.
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11-13-2019, 01:48 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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Angels hired Tony LaRussa to be an assistant baseball ops consultant or some such.
I honestly wasn't certain he was still alive.
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11-13-2019, 07:40 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Seven miles up
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The Astros cheating won't die. For every team they've beaten in the playoffs, even going back to the Cardinals scandal, it's going to be a bitter pill to swallow and a blight on the team. For Astros fans, it'll be, ho hum, maybe they did, but our players are still really good, and they all did really good and we won and we'll keep winning, because we're fans.
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11-13-2019, 10:45 AM
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Yeah, I wasn't prepared for the Patriot-esque heel turn for the Astros. I like a lot of players on their team, but this isn't a good look.
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11-13-2019, 10:51 AM
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If this is legit, it's not good:
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11-13-2019, 01:45 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL
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From Twitter, the postseason splits for the 2017 Astros:
Altuve - Home: .472 BA/.513 OBP/1.028 SLG/1.541 OPS, 17 H, 6 HR & 12 RBI Away: .143 BA/.268 OBP/.229 SLG/.497 OPS, 5 H, 1 HR & 2 RBI Correa - Home: .371 BA/.421 OBP/.743 SLG/1.164 OPS, 13 H, 3 HR & 10 RBI Away: .211 BA/.231 OBP/.395 SLG/.626 OPS, 8 H, 2 HR & 4 RBI Bregman - Home: .273 BA/.342 OBP/.515 SLG/.857 OPS, 9 H, 2 HR & 6 RBI Away: .154 BA/.175 OBP/.333 SLG/.508 OPS, 6 H, 2 HR & 4 RBI McCann - Home: .300 BA/.382 OBP/.467 SLG/.849 OPS, 9 H, 1 HR & 7 RBI Away: .037 BA/.161 OBP/.037 SLG/.198 OPS, 1 H, 0 HR & 0 RBI Gattis - Home: .300 BA/.464 OBP/.550 SLG/1.014 OPS, 6 H, 1 HR & 3 RBI Away: .200 BA/.333 OBP/.200 SLG/.533 OPS, 2 H, 0 HR & 0 RBI This is looking more and more like their CF cameras at home games gave them a massive advantage. Last edited by Arles : 11-13-2019 at 01:45 PM. |
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11-13-2019, 02:08 PM
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Seriously. It's like it all crashed down after Taubman yelling at the female reporters. Karma came quick for the 'Stros.
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11-13-2019, 03:43 PM
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Ken Rosenthal could have just taken an article he wrote about the steroids and swapped out sign stealing and such. The defenses of “Everyone was doing it” and “We only did it because everyone was doing it to us” sound very familiar.
The Electronic Sign Stealing Era.
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"The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946 |
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11-13-2019, 05:07 PM
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That video is pretty damning.
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11-14-2019, 05:34 PM
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Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA
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Braves sign closer Will Smith to three-year deal in first substantial move of MLB free agency - CBSSports.com
3 yrs / $39m, with a 4th year option.
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11-14-2019, 06:13 PM
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Yeah, pretty easy to buy it all when you tie it with the video. Damn. |
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