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Old 05-22-2012, 10:18 PM   #701
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:20 PM   #703
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:22 PM   #704
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:22 PM   #705
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Time to send all this info to the Narcizo lab and wait for it to be processed
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:23 PM   #706
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Damn it LSG. I wondered when you posted about the BG protect if you weren't fishing for advice, and I guess the wolves read the same thing.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:24 PM   #707
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I had a post up asking you about it and then decided obviously it wasn't a good thing to draw attention to.

This also means the seer is the only one left once I go down and will lose his powers first night. So hopefully he has another wolf for us
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:36 PM   #708
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I'd be willing to bet Danny or CF is wolf at this point. Just in terms of who was active and around at the time of LSG's "reveal" and who I would expect to make the connection. If Jackal was lurking I can see him making that call as well.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:39 PM   #709
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why don't we stick to people that didn't just lynch the brutal, okay big guy?
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:45 PM   #710
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:47 PM   #711
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Would have sworn LSG was a wolf after she got so interested in lynching me. At least one result was good tonight, although I worry time is short for us to make any serious headway in finding and eliminating however many wolves remain.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:48 PM   #712
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I was wondering about LSG's late move onto GE myself. Glad the wolves cleared that all up for us. Thanks guys.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:55 PM   #713
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Why did pass never move his vote?

To answer this, because he never came back. Where is was is a mystery. OoooooOOOOOoooooOOOoooOOOoooOOOOOOOOOooooooo
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:58 PM   #714
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why don't we stick to people that didn't just lynch the brutal, okay big guy?

You mean like Danny? I'm fine with looking in that direction tomorrow. That fly by vote on Julio didn't look good to me at the time
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:26 PM   #715
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Hmmm Pass didn't show up at the end. How disappointing.

Oh so now I'm not active enough for you? That's it, I'm taking my ball and going home.

But seriously, good job not lynching the seer.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:30 PM   #716
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Oh so now I'm not active enough for you? That's it, I'm taking my ball and going home.

But seriously, good job not lynching the seer.


Please take both of them. And JAG's too.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:05 AM   #717
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You mean like Danny? I'm fine with looking in that direction tomorrow. That fly by vote on Julio didn't look good to me at the time

If you wajt to vote me do it, but stop making stuff up. I was able to se you reveal as i quickly read a little in my car on the way betqeen students. I didntveven know the vote count when i switched but i wanted to make sure i got my vote off of you and went with julio cause i knew he was a safe vote since it seemed clear he doesnt have a role if a villager
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:07 AM   #718
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Om watching kimgs game but ill read whay i mossed later tongjt. I still not sure whqt really happened today.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:10 AM   #719
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Om watching kimgs game but ill read whay i mossed later tongjt. I still not sure whqt really happened today.

We killed a wolf and had lots of fights doing so.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:20 AM   #720
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Someone has been drinking while watching that kimgs game...

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Old 05-23-2012, 12:23 AM   #721
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Nah just bad at typing on iphone espcially with adrenalone gping
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:32 AM   #722
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Day One

#59 04:03 Narcizo votes Passacaglia (1)
#60 05:32 JAG votes bhlloy (1)
#68 06:56 JAG unvotes bhlloy (0)
#68 06:56 JAG votes Narcizo (1)
#72 07:02 Danny votes bhlloy (1)
#80 07:35 Jackal votes Darth Vilus (1)
#88 08:44 Britrock votes CrimsonFox (1)
#91 09:31 CrimsonFox votes Narcizo (2)
#96 11:20 Bhlloy votes Julio (1)
#98 12:09 Julio votes Jackal (1)
#103 13:16 Chief Rum votes Danny (1)

#108 14:37 Darth Vilus votes Jackal (2)
#109 15:02 Narcizo unvotes Passacaglia (0)
#109 15:02 Narcizo votes Bhlloy (2)
#110 15:04 LoneStarGirl votes Jackal (3)
#117 15:16 LoneStarGirl unvotes Jackal (2)
#131 17:00 Chubby votes Darth Vilus (2)
#132 17:11 LoneStarGirl votes Narcizo (3)
#133 17:26 JAG unvotes Narcizo (2)
#133 17:26 JAG votes Julio (2)
#138 18:04 Passacaglia votes Danny (2)

#144 19:00 Autumn votes Julio (3)
#152 19:19 Zinto votes Bhlloy (3)
#156 19:33 Julio unvotes Jackal (1)
#156 19:33 Julio votes Bhlloy (4)
#157 19:37 Danny unvotes Bhlloy (3)
#157 19:37 Danny votes Julio (4)
#176 20:39 Julio unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#176 20:39 Julio votes Danny (3)
#178 20:41 JAG unvotes Julio (3)
#187 20:55 Zinto unvotes Bhlloy (1)
#187 20:55 Zinto votes Narcizo (3)
#188 20:56 Bhlloy unvotes Julio (2)
#188 20:56 Bhlloy votes CrimsonFox (2)

#196 21:13 JAG votes Bhlloy (2)
#197 21:15 CrimsonFox unvotes Narcizo (2)
#197 21:15 CrimsonFox votes Bhlloy (3)
#199 21:15 Britrock unvotes CrimsonFox (1)
#221 21:32 Britrock votes Darth Vilus (3)
#224 21:34 Bhlloy unvotes Crimson Fox (1)
#224 21:34 Bhlloy votes Darth Vilus (4)
#226 21:36 CrimsonFox unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#226 21:36 CrimsonFox votes Narcizo (3)
#229 21:39 GoldenEagle votes Danny (4)
#253 21:52 Passa unvotes Danny (3)
#253 21:52 Passa votes Darth Vilus (5)
#255 21:53 JAG unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#255 21:53 JAG votes Julio (3)
#268 21:57 Autumn unvotes Julio (2)
#268 21:57 Autumn votes Narcizo (4)

Darth Vilus 5 - Jackal (80), Chubby (131), britrock (221), bhlloy (224), Passacaglia (253)
Danny 3 - Chief Rum (103), Julio Ridols (178) GoldenEagle (229)
Narcizo 4 - LSG (132), Zinto (187), CrimsonFox(227), Autumn (268)
Julio Ridols 2 - Danny (157), JAG (255)
Bhlloy 1 - Narcizo (109)
The Jackal 1 - Darth Vilus (108)

I'm pretty certain a wolf doesn't fake reveal in a face off with another wolf so I think it's 99% certain Bhlloy is who he says he is.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:38 AM   #723
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Oh. Missed that Autumn was brutaled. Nevermind.
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:41 AM   #724
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Wow, big night getting the brutal. Hoping there's some aspect of the game I don't know about that'll help keep bhlloy alive.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:04 AM   #725
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heh and people wonder why i was quiet on day 1. see: bhlloy

At the risk of incurring the WRATH OF CHUBB! while I'm doing the vote county thing - all the more reason for vanilla villagers (as you're claiming) to be active. To pick up the slack for the roled villagers.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:07 AM   #726
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I haven't caught up completely yet, but from reading the rules, it seems the seer and others might want to reveal. There doesn't seem to be a way of protecting bhlloy and once he is dead, a roled player gets converted. It would be nice to know all role players so that we know who to lynch once that happens.

Or am I reading the rules wrong?
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:08 AM   #727
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Hold on. How come they brutalled Autumn? Why didn't they brutal Bhlloy?

Ah probably worked out that LSG would protect Bhlloy at night but might have a conditional to protect herself if Bhlloy bought it. But then, why didn't they brutal LSG? Always brutal the suspect BG if you have the chance.

So more like 80% sure of Bhlloy now.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:09 AM   #728
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I haven't caught up completely yet, but from reading the rules, it seems the seer and others might want to reveal. There doesn't seem to be a way of protecting bhlloy and once he is dead, a roled player gets converted. It would be nice to know all role players so that we know who to lynch once that happens.

Or am I reading the rules wrong?

I think there's a second-in-command that the wolfies have to kill before they get the convert. But yeah, the seer revealing has got to be on the cards sooner rather than later.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:15 AM   #729
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Oh! Look at what it says in the rules. Charlie was the leader, so bhlloy is the second-in-command.

Is that why everyone's been going on about Charlie.

So yeah, I don't get anything. If this is right then the seer should have got a message from Bhlloy last night (I presume he wouldn't send a message to LSG again) and will know if Bhlloy is Ray. In which case, yes, the seer has to reveal today - as they will be converted tonight otherwise.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:16 AM   #730
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Did we ever arrive at some sort of decision about the Charlie question? I've kind of skirted over it.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:16 AM   #731
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Hehe! Do you think I'm posting the vote count everytime I post Crimson?
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:19 AM   #732
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Did we ever arrive at some sort of decision about the Charlie question? I've kind of skirted over it.

It was obvious to me Charlie is not in the game, so right now if bhlloy is killed, our seer gets converted. We need our seer to reveal so we can get info and then we can lynch him if they kill bh first.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:32 AM   #733
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#310 10:47 Danny votes Julio (1)
#338 02:19 Narcizo votes LoneStarGirl (1)
#341 03:19 Danny unvotes Julio (0)
#341 03:19 Danny votes Bhlloy (1)
#342 03:20 CrimsonFox votes Chief Rum (1)
#353 03:57 Narcizo unvotes LoneStarGirl (0)
#353 03:57 Narcizo votes Bhlloy (2)
#364 09:30 Autumn votes Chief (2)

#370 09:51 LoneStarGirl votes Chubby (1)
#375 10:03 GOD votes CrimsonFox (1)
#377 10:40 Julio votes Chief (3)
#390 11:30 Bhlloy votes Chubby (2)
#399 11:53 CrimsonFox unvotes Chief (2)
#399 11:53 CrimsonFox votes GoldenEagle (1)
#401 11:59 GoldenEagle votes Chubby (3)
#403 12:04 CrimsonFox unvotes GoldenEagle (0)
#403 12:04 CrimsonFox votes Bhlloy (3)
#404 12:06 Passacaglia votes Chief Rum (3)
#408 12:11 Autumn unvotes Chief Rum (2)
#408 12:11 Autumn votes GoldenEagle (1)
#409 12:16 CrimsonFox unvotes Bhlloy (2)
#409 12:16 CrimsonFox votes GoldenEagle (2)
#411 12:19 Jackal votes GoldenEagle (3)
#444 14:08 Julio unvotes Chief (1)
#444 14:08 Julio votes Chubby (4)

#448 14:30 Zinto votes Bhlloy (3)
#464 15:04 LoneStarGirl unvotes Chubby (3)
#464 15:04 LoneStarGirl votes Julio (1)
#501 16:12 Bhlloy unvotes Chubby (3)
#501 16:12 Bhlloy votes Julio (2)
#502 16:15 GoldenEagle unvotes Chubby (2)
#502 16:15 GoldenEagle votes Bhlloy (4)
#567 19:12 Chubby votes Bhlloy (5)
#572 19:32 Chief voes Julio (3)
#577 19:51 Britrock votes Julio (4)

#586 20:20 Bhlloy claims Ray

#588 20:22 Bhlloy unvotes Julio (3)
#588 20:22 Bhlloy votes Chubby (3)
#595 20:29 Zinto unvotes Bhlloy (4)
#598 20:35 Britrock unvotes Julio (3)
#598 20:35 Britrock votes Chubby (4)
#606 20:42 Zinto votes GoldenEagle (4)
#614 20:53 Danny unvotes Bhlloy (3)
#614 20:53 Danny votes Julio (4)
#669 21:54 LoneStarGirl unvotes Julio (3)
#669 21:54 LoneStarGirl votes GoldenEagle (5)
#673 21:55 Bhlloy unvotes Chubby (3)
#673 21:55 Bhlloy votes GoldenEagle (6)

bhlloy 3 - Narcizo (353), GE (502), Chubby (567)
GoldenEagle 6 - Autumn (408), CrimsonFox (409), The Jackal (411), Zinto (606), LoneStarGirl (669), bhlloy (673)
Julio Riddols 2 - Chief (572), Danny (614)
Chubby 2 - Julio Riddols (444), Britrock (598)
Chief 1 - Passacaglia (404)
CrimsonFox 1 - GOD (375)
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:35 AM   #734
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So in that case the wolves screwed up. If they have made LSG as the bodyguard then they should brutal LSG and nightkill Bhlloy and get their convert with no chance of the seer revealing any information.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:40 AM   #735
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I obviously don't think we should lynch Bhlloy but I'm not automatically going to trust everything he says. Maybe he reveals to try and out Ray or the bodyguard and doesn't expect Golden to win the vote anyway (momentum had stalled on GE at the time of the reveal) and Bhlloy only moves his vote to GE at the last minute when it probably doesn't matter anyway. The more I think about it the less happy I am about his reveal.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:41 AM   #736
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Hopefully the seer will have a better idea of whether we can trust Bhlloy today and reveal if he knows Bhlloy is Ray.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:47 AM   #737
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So in that case the wolves screwed up. If they have made LSG as the bodyguard then they should brutal LSG and nightkill Bhlloy and get their convert with no chance of the seer revealing any information.

Obviously it's sometimes difficult for the wolves to co-ordinate their actions and mistakes are easy to make so we probably shouldn't read too much into this. But if they could get the night kill order in to take out LSG then they should have been able to change Golden's brutal order to take out LSG.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:49 AM   #738
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Soooo it says that Ronnie can become a runner/wolf if "the need arises". Do we suspect that this is if a wolf is offed, or possibly two? If it's just after one wolf is killed then there could be a converted wolf running around at the moment.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:56 AM   #739
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I think Chubby is playing exactly like I remember him playing as a villager. I have a decent amount of trust for him. I see no reason to chase the GE voters. Looking at the votes yesterday I think you have to question Britrock and Julio's voting. If Bhlloy is a villager then I think Britrock piggybacking his vote onto Bhlloy's is very suspicious. I'm less inclined to think Britrock is the wolf if Bhlloy is actually a wolf.

I might as well throw this out there, that I'm wondering if Danny might be converted. That would be if Bhlloy is a wolf. Danny would be looking to get the most out of the situation he's just been landed in by pushing for the seer to reveal. Just a thought.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:57 AM   #740
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For now I'm going to

Vote Britrock

He pinged me night one and then his voting yesterday was less than sterling.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:10 AM   #741
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I don't see anything thats happened so far that would indicate someone has been converted.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:12 AM   #743
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I might as well throw this out there, that I'm wondering if Danny might be converted. That would be if Bhlloy is a wolf. Danny would be looking to get the most out of the situation he's just been landed in by pushing for the seer to reveal. Just a thought.

If bhlloy and I were both wolves sure, but I have voted for him both day 1 and day 2 including pushing for him as a candidate. I don't see anything that happened last night that would have allowed someone to be coverted, so it seems highly unlikely both bhlloy and i were wolves.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:13 AM   #744
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Soooo it says that Ronnie can become a runner/wolf if "the need arises". Do we suspect that this is if a wolf is offed, or possibly two? If it's just after one wolf is killed then there could be a converted wolf running around at the moment.

Ah didn't see this. I don't think the condition is for wolves being killed, but I could be wrong.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:13 AM   #745
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I can promise you though, I have not been converted. I am either a villager or a starting wolf
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:29 AM   #746
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I can promise you though, I have not been converted. I am either a villager or a starting wolf

Why were you all over Julio and Bhlloy like a rash yesterday and now, despite a decent amount of extra evidence now pointing at Julio, not so much. And why no questioning the odd circumstances of Bhlloy's continued presence amongst us? I agree it seems like a long shot and it's not something I think worth pursuing today. Just something worth mentioning.

Anyhoo. Presuming we had three starting wolves and a nuetral and that we haven't had a conversion we're sitting at 8:2:1. Not bad but two missed lynches and a conversion and it could be as good as over. Harsh rule set.
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:30 AM   #747
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:42 AM   #748
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So let's pray to Lady Luck that the seer is someone getting heat and, at the least, has a couple of usable scans. If that's the case then I think it's worth the seer revealing today anyway, no matter what the status of Bhlloy is. You can clear up the picture a bit (hopefully) and if the wolves kill you then you can't be converted.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:20 AM   #749
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Why were you all over Julio and Bhlloy like a rash yesterday and now, despite a decent amount of extra evidence now pointing at Julio, not so much. And why no questioning the odd circumstances of Bhlloy's continued presence amongst us? I agree it seems like a long shot and it's not something I think worth pursuing today. Just something worth mentioning.

Anyhoo. Presuming we had three starting wolves and a nuetral and that we haven't had a conversion we're sitting at 8:2:1. Not bad but two missed lynches and a conversion and it could be as good as over. Harsh rule set.

Im not all over anyone yet today. And I am not someone who is stubborn that way, when new info comes out, I will adapt. Mostly though it's just that I haven't really put too much thought into today's vote yet.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:21 AM   #750
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And there really isn't anything odd about his presence. He was almost certainly guarded last night, so the wolves went another direction. I think bhlloy is telling the truth.
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