WW LII -- Clue (SOCIALITES WIN)

[path12]

Originally Posted by RendeR

What possible reason do you have for pulling the wolves your way? Unless your the BG you can't stop them. And then you only stop 1, if they tag team you you're still dead.

I understand that nobody would actually play this way, but if one was a nameless socialite, one way that somebody could help the village as a whole (though of course nobody ever would) by trying to draw the wolves or murderer their way in order to take one for the team and give the role players a chance to work their magic.

Silly though. Nobody would ever do something like that. I guess you caught me.

[path12]

And Green and Plum would know if they scanned her last night, eh?

[DaddyTorgo]

LOL @ Path.

Funny

[DaddyTorgo]

LOL @ Path.

Funny Cuz

[DaddyTorgo]

oh stupid enter button.

LOL @ Path

funny cuz i'm on the bottom of my list and Telle is somewhere in the middle but leaning towards good, and crim i am totally undecided on

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

"People Views" for Tonight

ntndeacon VIEW DaddyTorgo
Barkeep49 VIEW Telle
ChiefRum VIEW Schmidty
Schmidty VIEW Saldana
AlanT VIEW LoneStarGirl
saldana VIEW oliegirl
Path12 VIEW RendeR
Telle VIEW Neon_Chaos
Crim VIEW Barkeep49
LoneStarGirl VIEW Swaggs
Swaggs VIEW Crim
SnDvls VIEW AlanT
DaddyTorgo VIEW ChiefRum

st.cronin - if not lynched, take the place of whoever was lynched and make their view

that should give us solid coverage of everyone. i am aware that path+sndvls+ntn are not slated for a 2nd viewing.

Who do I view?

[Telle]

Originally Posted by path12

The other two are Telle and Crim, by the way.

Why me?? It can't be your "Mrs. Peacock theory" because I KNOW who that person is and I've never said anything about suspecting that individual.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by path12

And Green and Plum would know if they scanned her last night, eh?

No, they only find out murderer or wolf. I didn't see anything from pass that said they learn roles. in fact we found out otherwise based on the BG role.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

question for everyone:

I'm not looking for you answers, just a number

Of the 3 things you submitted last night to Pass (Who/Where/What) how many clues did you get back?

If you did like I did and put in info you already knew don't include that. It just seemed odd to me that I put in two unknowns and only got back one result and want to see if that held true for everyone else too.

Submitted three unknowns. Received one clue.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Telle

Submitted three unknowns. Received one clue.

I think it's pretty much the norm that we submit 3 suggestions and get a confirmation for one of them.

[DaddyTorgo]

Neon - whoops...sorry. I think I had you on someone and then realized there was a conflict and never put you back on anyone.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I think it's pretty much the norm that we submit 3 suggestions and get a confirmation for one of them.

That is also the basic mechanics of how the boardgame works. You only get one definite denial of your suggestion.

[DaddyTorgo]

Path...we know you're not the murderer...this would be a very poor play if you're a wolf.

Neon - sorry to leave you out there brutha...how about st. cronin (assuming he lives).

people...make sure you submit a conditional in case the person you're trying to view is lynched if they are one of the people on the block

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by RendeR

That is also the basic mechanics of how the boardgame works. You only get one definite denial of your suggestion.

Actually... well, more embarassingly, I know of the game, but I've never played the boardgame.

I did see the film and thought it was great.

[DaddyTorgo]

as far as who the conditional is...i'm not going to spend the rest of my day working that out...just go with someone you havn't scanned before (obviously).

[DaddyTorgo]

path's not the murderer...he's either doing a very poor job of being a wolf and trying to chum the waters while there's already blood in them (the existing 3-way showdown) or he's a misguided villager RendeR. I don't think we need to keep pushing him and prodding him.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Path...we know you're not the murderer...this would be a very poor play if you're a wolf.

Neon - sorry to leave you out there brutha...how about st. cronin (assuming he lives).

people...make sure you submit a conditional in case the person you're trying to view is lynched if they are one of the people on the block

Alrightie.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll need to vote in the next hour...

saldana or cronin? myself i think i'd lead towards saldana as the wolf and cronin as the murderer. therefore i guess i'd rather lynch cronin and see mrs. white go after saldana all things being equal. get the murderer out of the way before he has the potential for a night action.

[Alan T]

I have to take off probably until lynch. I've submitted my name that I was told to check (Lonestargirl) with a weapon I'm not sure has been cleared in a room that I won't say.

Good luck!

[Neon_Chaos]

I hope that we actually have the murderer cornered... and not laughing at out asses along with the wolves.

[path12]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

path's not the murderer...he's either doing a very poor job of being a wolf and trying to chum the waters while there's already blood in them (the existing 3-way showdown) or he's a misguided villager RendeR. I don't think we need to keep pushing him and prodding him.

*shrug* Jesus, why the hell would anyone listen to me anyway?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by path12

*shrug* Jesus, why the hell would anyone listen to me anyway?

i'm listening to you path. a bit aggrivated by your play today, but i think we can say pretty close to absolutely that you are not the murderer, and if you are a wolf this would be a very out-there play, especially with chaos already going on.

thus i deduce you are a villager.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

path's not the murderer...he's either doing a very poor job of being a wolf and trying to chum the waters while there's already blood in them (the existing 3-way showdown) or he's a misguided villager RendeR. I don't think we need to keep pushing him and prodding him.

Thats just it, I don't think path would be a misguided villager. I've never seen him so wildly off base like this, which leads me to believe the former may be true.

I just want straight answers instead of the ducking and dodging he keeps doing.


For the record, my opinion of the others is as follows:

Alan, on the fence, I don't really think he's bad on either side. I doubt I'd vote alan atthis point unless something really big came out.

Cronin, I have good vibes off him for a change. I almost always suspect him, but not this game. He's not on my radar at all really.(for now at least )

Saldana, not pinging that hard, but nothing says "good guy" either. I could go with the crowd on this vote if we need a tie breaking vote.

Then of course I have already voted for path, he's just seriously rubbing me the wrong way, his arguements are very weak, to the point of being more for show than to actually try and have an argument. I'll stay on Path unless we need a tiebreaker.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm a little worried we're going to end up with a no-lynch

[DaddyTorgo]

you think path's a wolf render?

pass...can we get a vote-count? do you have one handy?

[Neon_Chaos]

Do missed votes count as no lynch votes?

What's the vote count? I can switch to saldana if there's a tie. I just want to lynch someone now that we have an actualy way for us to go.

[DaddyTorgo]

path can't be the murderer...he is one of 3 people in the game to be double-checked.

so you're saying you believe he is a wolf?

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

you think path's a wolf render?

pass...can we get a vote-count? do you have one handy?

As I posted a page or two back:

he's either a wolf and just talked himself into a noose.

Or he's the murderer, in which case the two people (Sndvls and ??) that cleared him from being the murderer are wolves trying to help him.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm waiting for a vote count neon...but i'd be comfortable voting either cronin or saldana and leaving the other for mrs. white...with us then having the ability to take out alan tomorrow if necessary

i make no bones about the fact i'm going to put my vote on whichever of them has the most votes right now, because we really need to get a lynch tonight

[RendeR]

Gotta go get ready for work. Be back on round 5-ish.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by RendeR

As I posted a page or two back:

he's either a wolf and just talked himself into a noose.

Or he's the murderer, in which case the two people (Sndvls and ??) that cleared him from being the murderer are wolves trying to help him.

SnDvls and LSG have cleared him of being the murderer. SnDvls was cleared by Crim and LSG was cleared by Neon_Chaos. Crim has been cleared by ntndeacon + Neon_Chaos. Neon_Chaos has been cleared by Schmidty. And you cleared Schmidty.

I know that's not all necessarily showing they're not all wolves (odds say we have at least one wolf in there for example) but trying to follow that twisted chain. I don't think the chances are very good that LSG + SnDvls are BOTH wolves and laid themselves onto Path to protect him so early. In fact...I'd say the chances are next to nil.

[Passacaglia]

Here's my vote count as of post 731:
Barkeep49 1 -- st.cronin (584)
DaddyTorgo 1 -- path12 (634)
path12 1 -- RendeR (694)
saldana 3 -- Alan T (606), DaddyTorgo (653), LoneStarGirl (658)
st.cronin 5 -- Crim (510), oliegirl (579), Barkeep49 (591), saldana (598), Neon_Chaos (682)
No Lynch 1 -- Swaggs (662)

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE COUNT

Path - 1 (Render)
Cronin - 5 (neon, saldana, barkeep, oliegirl, crim)
no lynch - 1 (swaggs)
saldana - 3 (lsg, DT, alanT)
DaddyTorgo - 1 (path)
Barkeep - 1 (Cronin)

[Schmidty]

I just woke up. I hate my schedule with regard to WW. I can't wait until I start my new position.

Anyway, my wife is off today, and wants to go to the NW Washington Fair going on here. We'll be leaving within 15-20 minutes (after my shower), and I have no earthy idea how long I'll be gone. I'll definitely be home before the deadline though.

Sorry for not helping at all guys.

[DaddyTorgo]

i hate you pass! i just spent the time doing that!! LOL

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I just woke up. I hate my schedule with regard to WW. I can't wait until I start my new position.

Anyway, my wife is off today, and wants to go to the NW Washington Fair going on here. We'll be leaving within 15-20 minutes (after my shower), and I have no earthy idea how long I'll be gone. I'll definitely be home before the deadline though.

Sorry for not helping at all guys.

deadline is in 2 hours man

[DaddyTorgo]

by my count that leaves 5 still to vote

[saldana]

please dont waste mrs white on me, it would be a serious loss to the village...that PK can change the course of the game, and in this case, using it on me would change it in the wolves favor.

i h

[saldana]

please dont waste mrs white on me, it would be a serious loss to the village...that PK can change the course of the game, and in this case, using it on me would change it in the wolves favor.

i have

[saldana]

please dont waste mrs white on me, it would be a serious loss to the village...that PK can change the course of the game, and in this case, using it on me would change it in the wolves favor.

i have been t

[saldana]

please dont waste mrs white on me, it would be a serious loss to the village...that PK can change the course of the game, and in this case, using it on me would change it in the wolves favor.

i have been trying t

[saldana]

please dont waste mrs white on me, it would be a serious loss to the village...that PK can change the course of the game, and in this case, using it on me would change it in the wolves favor.

i have been trying to

[saldana]

please dont waste mrs white on me, it would be a serious loss to the village...that PK can change the course of the game, and in this case, using it on me would change it in the wolves favor.

i have been trying to think

[saldana]

please dont waste mrs white on me, it would be a serious loss to the village...that PK can change the course of the game, and in this case, using it on me would change it in the wolves favor.

i have been trying to think all

[saldana]

please dont waste mrs white on me, it would be a serious loss to the village...that PK can change the course of the game, and in this case, using it on me would change it in the wolves favor.

i have been trying to think all day

[Neon_Chaos]

DT, I think it would be prudent to switch over to st. cronin, just to ensure a lynch.

[DaddyTorgo]

i think i may neon. i will evaluate that before i leave in 45 minutes.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by RendeR

That is also the basic mechanics of how the boardgame works. You only get one definite denial of your suggestion.

correct which means I could keep putting Alan's name in each night, but still never get a cleared or not cleared on him even if he was okay because I didn't get a weapon in my initinal PM.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by path12

I feel like quite the contrarian this game, but I don't think DT's list does much of anything. We've already narrowed the list down to two. Mr Green can choose whichever of them he wants -- besides, we're probably going to lynch one of the two suspects today so Mr. Green has very little to do.

It is busywork that appears to help while accomplishing nothing. And DT is one of the people who checked in as a nameless socialite yet does not seem to know Peacock's identity. He is one of my three wolf candidates.

Hmm...

A) we have to send in a "who" every night, regardless of who is cleared or not; it doesn't hurt to coordinate that.

B) you continue to suggest we simply accept the list as is so far and depend on Mr Green for the rest, even though as a veteran WW player, you very well know that list is hardly a lock, given that wolves and individual victory seekers supplied at least some of the information. Why are you so accepting of the list, path? Is it because you already know who the murderer is, and you don't want the list being re-evaluated?

As for your last paragraph, I am keeping note of that as well. Keep in mind that the socialites don't know her identity either, so you could be going after Mr.Green or Col. Mustard just as easily as a wolf. We'll have to evaluate things as we go along.

[DaddyTorgo]

chief...schmidty...sndvls...3 who havn't voted...any thoughts? and there's ntn who is a 4th who hasn't voted