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path, this is very damning evidence, but does it point to saldana or AlanT?
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path: no, I'm not chaos. I'm loyal to the emperor. I'm actually a very good candidate for jailtime, since we don't really know what will happen if I"m not around to run the Golden Throne, and I have no night actions that I'm aware of.
As for my vote on grey: It seems to me most likely that there was a conversion attempt last night. I can construct a plausible game mechanic where grey went to convert GE, and was somehow able to override the guards. It's possible that there are multiple "protectors" and each bad guy has the ability to trump a particular one ... I don't know. It's just a guess, really. |
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In fact, I'm leaning towards saldana over AlanT
Vote Saldana
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Actually, I believe he has never claimed to be outside at all. He said that he ordered his men to guard GE, and that Grey talked his way in. Which Grey confirms, IIRC.
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Here's the deal. Grey's move is suspicious, but he confirmed your story. Using Grey as cover doesn't help you. It is possible that blade, grey and twothree are one faction attempting to convert GE. |
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The thing I'm fearing most right now is we are in a good guy slapfight. Blade and crew has to know that if we do take down Saldana and he turns out to be a good guy, that him and his backers have to be next. If we take him down and he's good as well We could be handing the baddies the game on a silver platter. And it works vice versa as well.
If I had to assign % on who's evil right now. Blade 40% Saldana 35% Neither 25%
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Well, I guess it points to both of them rather than toward Blade as I read it. I just really found Alan's initial comment which was his usual measured self transitioning to saying there's no doubt where the vote should go to be, well, jarring......which is why that pinged me more.
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It just seems odd for three to come out for one conversion. But then, it seems odd for two to come out for one kill also. There are plenty of red herrings here.
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Then he foreshadowed it nicely yesterday by stating a couple of times how he hated having the desk job, no? This game is unpredictable enough that I rarely see a lot of foreshadowing for an accusation down the road.
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Dola, just for the record I'm not claiming to have any special insight on anybody. I'm just going off of my rereading and notes on today.
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Also.. i hate to put this out here, but we're so confused right now, it has to be done.
We need the bodyguards, the holy healers etcetera to keep GoldenEagle in the game if his role is similar to mine. My role helps us win a major victory, but if Chaos wins, doesn't matter how many heretics there would be left, unfound and unpurged. But there is likely a role that can find the Chaos, and if there's no Chaos "group", just one or maximum two bad guys trying to hide amongst us all, would it be better to go for the minor win, rather then start searching for circles which might not exist? The important part would be to keep the finders of Chaos alive, and less important to deal with the mutants.
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And take two steps forward on the suspect list, Mr Blade. The Imperial Guard and the Space Marines (the Adeptus Arbites) are two different forces. You'd have no command over them.
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You're right IMO. I could not vote GE (even though I have many questions about him) without 100% certainty that he is Chaos.
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Food for thought for some Warhammer Scholars:
I had to talk through SPACE MARINES in order to get to GE. Would blade even have command of space marines? Are space marines part of the imperial guard? |
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I went back to find this post. This is similar to the hoops move from a couple games ago. He did some background research into theme of the game to come up with some information to beef up his story. Which is what blade is doing with the iceplanet named jektar. I haven't looked it up, but I'm sure it's mentioned in blades link somewhere. blade's story is just too fishy, and I didn't trust him yesterday when he pushed for killing realdeal. vote blade |
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Wait, I'm confused. I thought greyroofoo was CLEARING Blade? Now it sounds like he's accusing him.
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For the record, I just went back to the link Blade referenced and searched for jektar. No results. Just like GE as seer, the fact that Blade claims bodyguard at this time makes it hard to vote for him. You have to be sure about a vote like that. I understand your suspicions even though I read the situation differently. I just can't risk losing a major role like that without being more certain. I'm very tempted to leave my vote on Grey and let the Blade/Saldana/Alan thing play itself out at night.
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You said it first.. I'm not sure what angle Greyroofoo is going on here now. ??
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i'm confused too.
My PM makes no mention of Blade or anyone else. I just assumed GE would have guards with him. Blade commanding Space Marines does seem odd from my very limted knowledge of the Warhammer Universe. Even if those guards were blade's: IMO that neither clears him nor damns him. |
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I'm so confused, I can't even remember who I voted for.
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I'm keeping my vote on Grey. He was seen going into GE's quarters and neither one has been very clear as to why.
I would strongly urge us not to lynch our potential bodyguard without more proof. Out until after lynch.
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path, you've seen me in many games as both a wolf and a villager. I have never ever come out and said I believe 100% in someone.
Even in last game, the Circle of trust that I started that others hopped on, remember I said I trusted schmidty 90% there and not 100%. This is my first time I can remember in WW games that I have ever said I trust someone is on the emperor's side 100%. Think through the scenerios why that might be. Like I have said all day, I don't know anything about Blade, what I do know though is if you do what he is asking you to do (lynch Saldana), it is a big mistake and you lynch our witness role. Im just asking people to think this through a little bit. I don't come out every game ranting or raving or making accusations like some players. I have a reason for it this time. |
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The problem is.. now that Blade's revealed himself as the "bodyguard" (putting quotes around it because I'm not sure of it). wouldn't he be the next night's target anyway?
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i will say it one more time for those that are voting for me....
i am not sure that blade was converted.... i am 100% sure blade spoke to someone in person last night...a fact he 99.99% denied... i asked him for a better choice and he didnt give me one, so my vote stands where it is. |
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Fouts makes a good point. I think there are enough holes in Blade's story to
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Does it do any good to try to vote for Sal or Blade? Seems there are 2 groups, those sticking up for Sal and those with Blade. Personally, I think either both groups are good or 1 good/1 mutant. Although, if one of them is bad and we hit upon it.. seems likely that the forces sticking up for them would be chaotic too..
Pretty risky move though and I'm not sure I would agree with this course so, I'd rather have that scenario play out more so.. Vote Greyfooroo Only one right now that can avoid Sal or Blade getting the ax and I'd just assume avoid that right now. Unfortunately, have to vote now as I'm heading out in a few to have dinner. (Birthday dinner at my favorite chinese place so... )
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I don't even have a count right now...
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saldana 5 - kingfc, Blade, twothree, bulletsponge, Anxiety Blade 5 - saldana, AlanT, SirFozzie, Fouts, st.cronin Greyroofoo 2- path12, Mustang kingfc 1 - BrianD Not Yet Voted: GoldenEagle, Greyroofoo, Chief Rum, Swaggs |
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Hmm.. well, I personally don't have a strong feeling on either Sal or Blade.
Personally, wouldn't want either to die at this present time so.. Guess I believe them both currently. I'm out.. I'll read up later.
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I can understand the votes on grey, but saldana? Somebody explain why they are voting that way?
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FWIW, after playing with Alan in previous games, there is no way he would back somebody this hard unless he knew he was good.
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dola, blade commands the imperial guard, but only a primarch can command the space marines....thats another lie
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Time for quite a bit of catch up...
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Grey came to me last night and we discussed Blade. I do not know why he came to me. He told me Blade was not chaos and I have every reason to believe him. Blade may be human or he may be a mutant, but he is not chaos.
I have a theory that both Grey and Blade may be mutants and they are possibly trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes. But our targets are not mutants. We are trying to kill off chaos right now. I do not know what to think of saldana and Alan T being buddies. If we kill saldana and he is clean, then it is going to look very bad for Blade and very good for Alan T. But as of right now, this is my vote. Vote saldana
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Interesting that you two both post simultaneously, again. What I don't get is the opposite votes.
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