WW LXVI: Money Money Money (Game Over!)

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

DT, I agree with you on the direction of the vote. Short of having wolf knowledge, I think it ends up being a wasted vote going for someone else right now. And you have to get the vote in to get the 15K. So no dispute there.

I'll talk about whatever you want over the next hour to help you avoid one bad decision - I just don't know if the other option (Jackal) is much better in terms of getting a Cutthroat.

I mean I guess the alternative is I vote for the third person who has votes on them.

It's as I feared with this game, the dearth of information so far is TBH making it hard for me to feel like I have any real meaningful insight. Particularly when coupled with the lack of voting/unvoting.

But I'm giving it my best shot.

I'm not sure Jackel is a much better play either, and he is also new (or at least new to me which means he can't be that old) so I feel a little bad about that.


I just dunno. And there's only 30 mins left till deadline.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by path12

"I" don't know "what" you "mean".

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Back, but don't see that much has changed since I started my two hour commute.

Chief, since we are actually online at the same time do you want to ask me some questions rather than just falling in line with voting for me for a third straight day?

I really have little idea about Jackal's goodness or badness, but I know that removing me shrinks the number of Rich remaining and will drain money from the game in the form of my assets that are locked up in CDs no matter what I try to do between now and the deadline.

Sorry, hoops, I didn't get to this earlier, and I had to leave the thread to get my transfer recruiting ready for the FOC-BBCF league. Now I am back and finally catching up.

Actually, I don't want to vote you out. I want you to be scanned. As a (taking out bribe talk for the moment) cleared villager, you would be a useful player. As an uncleared player, you are a distraction. As a dead good player, you don't do us any good at all. So best option is keep you alive and clear you.

That said, I think there's some rational thought behind my theories on you, and until evidence comes up contrary, I don't plan on renouncing them.

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe I take claphamsa's (drunken) word on jackall, as he was talking about him even prior to drinking, and if that doesn't pan out then maybe we look at getting the clap?

[Alan T]

Bleh, just got paged for work. Guess I'll be away a while. Back some time later this evening after deadline.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I mean I guess the alternative is I vote for the third person who has votes on them
It's as I feared with this game, the dearth

Stupid formating!

TBH?

Jackall is expirienced... just not at this level. hes played/GMd at TSW alot, and new more than all of us when he got there (except heinze maybe)

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

maybe I take claphamsa's (drunken) word on jackall, as he was talking about him even prior to drinking, and if that doesn't pan out then maybe we look at getting the clap?

ha ha, never heard that before.....

Just saying. I dont think hopps is bad, and at least he is trying, and not sure about jackyl

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm not one to seize on RL as a reason to vote someone, but alan just gave 2 different excuses as reasons for why he's leaving the thread till after deadline. Just thought i'd point that out...*shrugs*

[Chief Rum]

I have already talked about my desired approach toeard hoopsguy, and I don't like the run on Jackal either. So I am going to throw my vote at another guy who has at least one vote, pretty much just because he is an option to the former two.

Good information about a candidate, though, and I will be willing to throw a vote elsewhere as well.

VOTE TYRITH

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i'm not one to seize on RL as a reason to vote someone, but alan just gave 2 different excuses as reasons for why he's leaving the thread till after deadline. Just thought i'd point that out...*shrugs*

while i get and understand your point.... when is bbcf RL?

[hoopsguy]

Heh, if I could buy the damn seer I would hand him over to someone else to scan me at this point.

[claphamsa]

ill scan you.....

[claphamsa]

who else does everyone think shoudl be scaned?

[DaddyTorgo]

*AHEM*

chief didn't realize that we can't unvote? that smells wolfish to me, as in "i'm a bad guy so i'm going to be too lazy to read all the rules about villager voting."

it may be a "throwaway" technically, but that just screamed to me (and maybe i'm wrong too)

VOTE CHIEF RUM

[claphamsa]

acording to the lates list.. he hasnt voted... and i didnt see him voting afterward?

[claphamsa]

anyone got a count?

[Mr. Wednesday]

DT, which post are you referencing re: Chief not realizing we can't unvote?

[Mr. Wednesday]

4 to hoops, 4 to Jackal. Not sure about the others.

[claphamsa]

THX!

[Mr. Wednesday]

Let me correct that.
4 to hoops
3 or 4 to Jackal, depending on whether claphamsa's most recent vote is a vote.
2 to Tyrith
1 to Chief Rum

[hoopsguy]

I'll throw the idea out there publicly rather than trying to unilaterly make it happen later - a tie means no lynch. Which, in a game where we can vote to end it after Day 4, is an awfully good thing if neither of us are Cutthroats.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I have already talked about my desired approach toeard hoopsguy, and I don't like the run on Jackal either. So I am going to throw my vote at another guy who has at least one vote, pretty much just because he is an option to the former two.

Good information about a candidate, though, and I will be willing to throw a vote elsewhere as well.

VOTE TYRITH

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[DaddyTorgo]

dola

although I guess he said "as well" and I just noticed that

[claphamsa]

ok, did i not make it blue or bold? its a vote! but i dont want to revote, cuz i wann be the seer

[Mr. Wednesday]

It's bold, and it's a shade of blue, so hopefully it counts.

[hoopsguy]

Clap, if you are concerned about it make your intentions clear in a following post, something like:

"In the event my previous vote did not count, I vote"


Note to self - I will be a smidge agitated if it moves somewhere else.

[path12]

DT, I think Chief was saying that he would be willing to throw a second vote out there if necessary.

Not to speak for Chief. And looks like I'll miss yet another deadline in BBCF.

[claphamsa]

jsut to claify!
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i being of good sound mind and consons vote jackyl

[claphamsa]

that was a clarifyer not a second vote!

[path12]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'll throw the idea out there publicly rather than trying to unilaterly make it happen later - a tie means no lynch. Which, in a game where we can vote to end it after Day 4, is an awfully good thing if neither of us are Cutthroats.

Any thoughts on this by anyone except the vote leaders? I can see the logic, but I'm also of the mind that we should lynch where possible, especially if the lynchee can give their money away beforehand.

[path12]

Never mind, I'm leaving this alone. My dinner has been waiting for 10 minutes.

VOTE TYRITH

[claphamsa]

10 min, then sleeeep!

[claphamsa]

no suggestions to the group on who to scan? i think hoops and mr W are the obvious chouces....

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

*AHEM*

chief didn't realize that we can't unvote? that smells wolfish to me, as in "i'm a bad guy so i'm going to be too lazy to read all the rules about villager voting."

it may be a "throwaway" technically, but that just screamed to me (and maybe i'm wrong too)

VOTE CHIEF RUM

Umm, not that you can undo this, but mayhaps you should read my vote post again. Focus on the "throwing a vote elsewhere" bit, which says absolutely nothing about "unvoting", which I am perfectly aware can't be done in this game.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Not having to eliminate the cutthroats changes the calculus on not lynching a bit. However, I have to think that the amount of money they accumulated should be calibrated to favor them. Among other things, they're pretty much guaranteed to collect $15k on a kill thanks to the payoff for the rich dude casting a vote.

[hoopsguy]

I'll give it away beforehand, but if you are going to lynch me - and by a margin where it doesn't make sense to save myself with that same money because I know I'm a villager - then it had best happen quickly.

I'm here, Jackal isn't, it wouldn't be hard for me to snipe him if I was going in that direction. And it would make sense on either side - either I know I'm good or as a bad guy I'm getting rid of an opponent and buying another day as a Cutthroat - but I'm trying to play nicely with others.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by path12

DT, I think Chief was saying that he would be willing to throw a second vote out there if necessary.

Not to speak for Chief. And looks like I'll miss yet another deadline in BBCF.

path gets an A+ in Comprehension!

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by path12

Never mind, I'm leaving this alone. My dinner has been waiting for 10 minutes.

VOTE TYRITH

Can I ask -- why Tyrith?

[Mr. Wednesday]

clap, I indicated upthread that hoops is probably safer from being killed tonight than me (he's had ample opportunity to shift his inheritance to the bank where it would go to his beneficiary and not the cutthroats), and therefore might be a better choice to scan between the two of us.

[Mr. Wednesday]

hoops, the trouble is that anybody who's going to swing the vote wants to wait as long as possible so that they don't have to spend extra money making sure it works.

[DaddyTorgo]

yeah...i got that...after I voted I realized that chief/path

[hoopsguy]

I would talk about who to scan, but that hasn't worked out for me all that well so far this game.

Seriously, if I'm around in another few minutes and you still want to discuss it I'll offer up ideas.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Double dola, I'm not after you today, as I think I've made clear.

[hoopsguy]

You thought you were getting a double dola at four minutes to deadline?

[Mr. Wednesday]

My thinking on that is that it's still of some use to do the (actually non-) dolas because it indicates that there wasn't anything in-between when I voted.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

clap, I indicated upthread that hoops is probably safer from being killed tonight than me (he's had ample opportunity to shift his inheritance to the bank where it would go to his beneficiary and not the cutthroats), and therefore might be a better choice to scan between the two of us.

saw that~

[claphamsa]

ha

[Mr. Wednesday]

Well, if somebody's pulling a fast one, they did it late enough to pull it off.

[Barkeep49]

Deadline. Still figuring stuff out.

[claphamsa]

my problem becasue of the timming... i need to put in a conditional scan NOW or in the next 15 min... because there are about 9 hours a day i am not on the interweb (lame i know) and they are the night in this game...

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

yeah...i got that...after I voted I realized that chief/path

lol...