Werewolf: Hunt for Necromancers - GAME OVER! Post #3469 - Page 16

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 08:32 PM

Ok I think cronin is the best thing we have going. I'm not too pleased with bek nor with tangle nor with schmidty. But I agree that there's a chance that cronin is trying to signal the other necros about the odds. But then again so could have saldana. Anyhow for now I'm not so upset to

Vote cronin

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 08:32 PM

Gah, now I'm conflicted. The logic behind cronin trying to send a message is good, and it would be such a sweet move if it worked...but it's thin. And he's also right to a degree; we would be really weirded out too if we had a kill. The bek kill is weak, and I don't think we have a better than random chance of getting a necro with him...it's almost worth it to me now.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

UNVOTE Bek

Vote Cronin

something does smell. although it still looks bleak for Bek. man if he wants to live he better get his butt in here and post

And by bleak you mean "very good as he is no longer the leading vote getter"

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

; we would be really weirded out too if we had a kill.

What's weird? We assume that a necro took a stab and killed somebody. What would be weird about it?

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 08:33 PM

That's a genuine question there. I don't follow the logic of cronin and now tyrith.

Alan T · 06-20-2006, 08:36 PM

Maybe instead St.cronin is not hinting at what should come tonight, but instead at what happened last night? I will go back and reread what happens if a nec attacks a nec, but what if St.cronin did attack someone last night and it ended up being a nec and he is trying to give them some code?

I dont see how he can be hinting to attack someone tonight, since how would you know who to attack if you were a nec?

Maybe Im reading too much into this here though...

The more I think about this, good enough for me..
Unvote Bek
Vote St. Cronin

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 08:37 PM

Because there would be a lot of shit going on. This game has lots of moving parts; a night kill would have thrown in yet another we would have to deal with. And because whoever died would have been completely, insanely random.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 08:38 PM

Alan: If I understand it correctly if Cronin attacked a bad guy that bad guy knows cronin just as well as cronin knows him.

Alan T · 06-20-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Alan: If I understand it correctly if Cronin attacked a bad guy that bad guy knows cronin just as well as cronin knows him.

Then what would he gain for trying to hint to kill someone tonight, unless he is trying to get clues out for people to seer scan him to start forming their circle?

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Maybe instead St.cronin is not hinting at what should come tonight, but instead at what happened last night? I will go back and reread what happens if a nec attacks a nec, but what if St.cronin did attack someone last night and it ended up being a nec and he is trying to give them some code?

I dont see how he can be hinting to attack someone tonight, since how would you know who to attack if you were a nec?

Maybe Im reading too much into this here though...

The more I think about this, good enough for me..
Unvote Bek
Vote St. Cronin

Cronin wouldn't need to code another necro, they could PM each other.

Chubby · 06-20-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Alan: If I understand it correctly if Cronin attacked a bad guy that bad guy knows cronin just as well as cronin knows him.

I believe you are correct.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Then what would he gain for trying to hint to kill someone tonight, unless he is trying to get clues out for people to seer scan him to start forming their circle?

Because he's saying that the odds of killing another necro are low and there's still a chance to find another?

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 08:47 PM

So far I think we've been reading too much into little things due to lack of any other substantive information. While I'm not saying cronin isn't bad, we need to be careful how far we let our zeal lead our minds.

Vince · 06-20-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Cronin wouldn't need to code another necro, they could PM each other.

They don't know each other until they make contact, though. So he could be trying to get OTHER necromancers to try the same thing.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

So far I think we've been reading too much into little things due to lack of any other substantive information. While I'm not saying cronin isn't bad, we need to be careful how far we let our zeal lead our minds.

A very valid point. I agree we're working with scraps here.

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

They don't know each other until they make contact, though. So he could be trying to get OTHER necromancers to try the same thing.

True, but I was responding to Alan's specific question.

Current votes, just for kicks.

Cronin - 6: barkeep (751), anxiety (731), dubb (742), alan (756), saldana (619), bullet (750)
Bek - 4: path (671), sndvls (691), tyrith (719), qwikshot (726)
Sndvls - 2: coffee (643), king (625)
Tanglewood - 1: pass (683)
Schmidty - 1: cronin (615)
Chubby - 1: lathum (572)
Passacaglia - 1: vince (660)

No votes: bek, blade, tanglewood
Unvoted: chubby

Vince · 06-20-2006, 08:58 PM

Ok, I'm off to play some softball. I don't like the whole switching votes thing too much, but my first vote was really just in case I couldn't make a more well-informed vote later. Since I know a little more now...

Unvote Passacaglia
Vote st. cronin

tanglewood · 06-20-2006, 08:59 PM

shit, my connection went again, but i got it back just in in time it seems

tanglewood · 06-20-2006, 08:59 PM

vote cronin

I don't have much to go on, he seems to be the semi-consensus, just trying to get the vote in now.

Abe Sargent · 06-20-2006, 09:01 PM

still have another hour tangle.

-Anxiety

tanglewood · 06-20-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince

Agreed. And yes, it is silly to vote for you based on the little error...but we don't have much other than 'silly' to go on right now.

I pretty much agree with this re: vote on Cronin.

tanglewood · 06-20-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

still have another hour tangle.

-Anxiety

We do? Excelllent, I thought it was 2am GMT.

dubb93 · 06-20-2006, 09:06 PM

Well, its 9EST right now so I think we may have another hour.

stevew · 06-20-2006, 09:11 PM

Tom Brady is not too happy.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 09:12 PM

did cronin say he was out for the night? I would really love to hear from him before deadline, frankly.

Chubby · 06-20-2006, 09:18 PM

I'm super confused.

I thought SnDvls was acting odd but someone is vouching for him.
There's a runup on St Cronin but there isn't anything totally damning.

Vote bek

As much as i hate to, since it's friggin lame to go after the guy who hasn't shown up for the 2nd day in a row (as a group), I gotta vote bek right now. I'm unsure on the other 2 floating in my mind (SnDvls and St Cronin) and I don't want to lynch another important member to our cause.

Lathum · 06-20-2006, 09:21 PM

I'm sorry but chubby screams baddie at me right now. If I am whacked tonight you guys need to check him out.

saldana · 06-20-2006, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I'm sorry but chubby screams baddie at me right now. If I am whacked tonight you guys need to check him out.

the only problem i have with that is in order for him to be playing the stumbling rookie, there would have to have been a veteran telling him to do it from behind the curtain....in this game, there hasnt been a chance for anyone to be behind the curtain since the bad guys dont know each other.

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I'm sorry but chubby screams baddie at me right now. If I am whacked tonight you guys need to check him out.

What distinguishes the baddie feel from the new player feel for you? Assuming you make it back to the game while you're still alive.

dubb93 · 06-20-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

What distinguishes the baddie feel from the new player feel for you? Assuming you make it back to the game while you're still alive.

You made it impossible to do that several games ago.

Coffee Warlord · 06-20-2006, 09:33 PM

Catching up here, though my vote doesn't look like it's gonna matter at this point.

Dubb? Can we get some sort of hint of idea why the 180 on SnDvls?

Coffee Warlord · 06-20-2006, 09:34 PM

By the by, this is 2 days in a row where I am away from the computer for a couple hours and get back to see a mad dash on a totally unexpected person. This worries me.

dubb93 · 06-20-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Dubb? Can we get some sort of hint of idea why the 180 on SnDvls?

A wild guess? I found a piece of paper saying "SNDVLS is innocent in my pocket"? Or prehaps he PM'ed me his role description? The ancient egyptians may never know.

Abe Sargent · 06-20-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

You made it impossible to do that several games ago.

AND me, I was a bad guy in that game too - in just my second game, Tyrith in his first, ruling over all.

-Anxiety

Alan T · 06-20-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

By the by, this is 2 days in a row where I am away from the computer for a couple hours and get back to see a mad dash on a totally unexpected person. This worries me.

Doesnt worry me a ton since I am guessing neither bad or good guys know who is who right now. I am more concerned that I understand exactly what people's reasons are.

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

You made it impossible to do that several games ago.

I'm probably going to suck at WW for the rest of my life, and I made several mistakes that game, but I'm still amazed I managed to pull that off.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

By the by, this is 2 days in a row where I am away from the computer for a couple hours and get back to see a mad dash on a totally unexpected person. This worries me.

In fairness it's been differnet people behind the dash each day which is reassuring. PLUS we can't assume that the baddies are working together yet. Tomorrow I think we can start to assume far more coordination.

hoopsguy · 06-20-2006, 09:42 PM

Votes as of Post #785:

As of Post #741:

Chubby - Lathum (572)
Schmidty - Cronin (615)
Cronin - Saldana (618), Schmidty (659), Anxiety (731), Dubb (742), bullet (750), Barkeep (751), Alan T (756), Vince (767), Tanglewood (769)
SnDvls - Kingfc (625), Coffee (643)
Bek - Path (671), SnDvls (691), Tyrith (719), Qwik (726), Chubby (776)
Tanglewood - Pass (683)

Not voted - Bek, Blade

Please jump in if you see anything that is missing/incorrect here.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

I'm probably going to suck at WW for the rest of my life, and I made several mistakes that game, but I'm still amazed I managed to pull that off.

I don't think you suck at all.

Also I don't think Chubby's play screams of anything except excited newcomer. As someone who played as a wolf in his first full game I have some idea of what that looks like and this doesn't seem like it to me.

dubb93 · 06-20-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

AND me, I was a bad guy in that game too - in just my second game, Tyrith in his first, ruling over all.

-Anxiety

I'll just leave it at, had some people followed along a little better that game the ending would have been much different.

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I don't think you suck at all.

Also I don't think Chubby's play screams of anything except excited newcomer. As someone who played as a wolf in his first full game I have some idea of what that looks like and this doesn't seem like it to me.

Thanks. And I have to agree with your assesment. I'm rather impressed with both new players so far; they seem to be asking the right questions and trying to learn the right way, even if they are horrible necromancers on the inside.

Lathum · 06-20-2006, 09:47 PM

had chubby just been an excited rookie I would have no problem, but some of the observations he has made make me think he is shrewder then we think.

dubb93 · 06-20-2006, 09:47 PM

Cronin must be out demanding yak sacrifices b/c I don't think he's coming back in before deadline.

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

I'll just leave it at, had some people followed along a little better that game the ending would have been much different.

The end of that game was full of weird shit. After Anxiety was killed and we muffed the barkeep kill I was certain we had lost...but then lathum killed barkeep for reasons I still don't understand, and Day Six went down perfectly even though I zoned out for an hour and forgot to put in my vote. It was almost the perfect storm, and we put a big dent in the ability for bad guys to stay quiet and under-the-radar in the future.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Cronin must be out demanding yak sacrifices b/c I don't think he's coming back in before deadline.

Well played post sir.

Lathum: A new player can't be shrewd?

Lathum · 06-20-2006, 09:49 PM

dola- chubby, please don't take this as a personal attack because it isn't that at all. I think everyone here will vouch for me when I say that I am one of the more cordial players. It's just a "feel" I have.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

The end of that game was full of weird shit. After Anxiety was killed and we muffed the barkeep kill I was certain we had lost...but then lathum killed barkeep for reasons I still don't understand, and Day Six went down perfectly even though I zoned out for an hour and forgot to put in my vote. It was almost the perfect storm, and we put a big dent in the ability for bad guys to stay quiet and under-the-radar in the future.

GAH! Why'd you have to remind me that a good guy took me out? I completely had blocked that out.

Lathum · 06-20-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

The end of that game was full of weird shit. After Anxiety was killed and we muffed the barkeep kill I was certain we had lost...but then lathum killed barkeep for reasons I still don't understand, and Day Six went down perfectly even though I zoned out for an hour and forgot to put in my vote. It was almost the perfect storm, and we put a big dent in the ability for bad guys to stay quiet and under-the-radar in the future.

which game was that?

Tyrith · 06-20-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

had chubby just been an excited rookie I would have no problem, but some of the observations he has made make me think he is shrewder then we think.

Just because he's shrewd doesn't mean that he's bad, though. Then we have to start judging the content of his observations, which we can't do until we develop some more information. This is a really slow developing game, we can't get too far into our ruts now.

Coffee Warlord · 06-20-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

A wild guess? I found a piece of paper saying "SNDVLS is innocent in my pocket"? Or prehaps he PM'ed me his role description? The ancient egyptians may never know.

Smartass.

Benefit of the doubt for the time being, since there's a distinct possiblity of something that would have caused you to ping him then back off, especially this early in the game.

06-20-2006, 08:58 PM	#767
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06-20-2006, 09:01 PM	#770
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	still have another hour tangle. -Anxiety __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-20-2006, 08:32 PM	#751
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok I think cronin is the best thing we have going. I'm not too pleased with bek nor with tangle nor with schmidty. But I agree that there's a chance that cronin is trying to signal the other necros about the odds. But then again so could have saldana. Anyhow for now I'm not so upset to Vote cronin

06-20-2006, 08:32 PM	#752
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Gah, now I'm conflicted. The logic behind cronin trying to send a message is good, and it would be such a sweet move if it worked...but it's thin. And he's also right to a degree; we would be really weirded out too if we had a kill. The bek kill is weak, and I don't think we have a better than random chance of getting a necro with him...it's almost worth it to me now.

06-20-2006, 08:33 PM	#755
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	That's a genuine question there. I don't follow the logic of cronin and now tyrith.

06-20-2006, 08:36 PM	#756
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Maybe instead St.cronin is not hinting at what should come tonight, but instead at what happened last night? I will go back and reread what happens if a nec attacks a nec, but what if St.cronin did attack someone last night and it ended up being a nec and he is trying to give them some code? I dont see how he can be hinting to attack someone tonight, since how would you know who to attack if you were a nec? Maybe Im reading too much into this here though... The more I think about this, good enough for me.. Unvote Bek Vote St. Cronin

06-20-2006, 08:37 PM	#757
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Because there would be a lot of shit going on. This game has lots of moving parts; a night kill would have thrown in yet another we would have to deal with. And because whoever died would have been completely, insanely random.

06-20-2006, 08:38 PM	#758
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Alan: If I understand it correctly if Cronin attacked a bad guy that bad guy knows cronin just as well as cronin knows him.

06-20-2006, 08:47 PM	#763
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	So far I think we've been reading too much into little things due to lack of any other substantive information. While I'm not saying cronin isn't bad, we need to be careful how far we let our zeal lead our minds.

06-20-2006, 08:59 PM	#768
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	shit, my connection went again, but i got it back just in in time it seems

06-20-2006, 08:59 PM	#769
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	vote cronin I don't have much to go on, he seems to be the semi-consensus, just trying to get the vote in now.

06-20-2006, 09:11 PM	#774
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Tom Brady is not too happy.

06-20-2006, 09:12 PM	#775
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	did cronin say he was out for the night? I would really love to hear from him before deadline, frankly.

06-20-2006, 09:18 PM	#776
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	I'm super confused. I thought SnDvls was acting odd but someone is vouching for him. There's a runup on St Cronin but there isn't anything totally damning. Vote bek As much as i hate to, since it's friggin lame to go after the guy who hasn't shown up for the 2nd day in a row (as a group), I gotta vote bek right now. I'm unsure on the other 2 floating in my mind (SnDvls and St Cronin) and I don't want to lynch another important member to our cause.

06-20-2006, 09:21 PM	#777
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I'm sorry but chubby screams baddie at me right now. If I am whacked tonight you guys need to check him out.

06-20-2006, 09:33 PM	#781
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Catching up here, though my vote doesn't look like it's gonna matter at this point. Dubb? Can we get some sort of hint of idea why the 180 on SnDvls?

06-20-2006, 09:34 PM	#782
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	By the by, this is 2 days in a row where I am away from the computer for a couple hours and get back to see a mad dash on a totally unexpected person. This worries me.

06-20-2006, 09:42 PM	#788
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #785: As of Post #741: Chubby - Lathum (572) Schmidty - Cronin (615) Cronin - Saldana (618), Schmidty (659), Anxiety (731), Dubb (742), bullet (750), Barkeep (751), Alan T (756), Vince (767), Tanglewood (769) SnDvls - Kingfc (625), Coffee (643) Bek - Path (671), SnDvls (691), Tyrith (719), Qwik (726), Chubby (776) Tanglewood - Pass (683) Not voted - Bek, Blade Please jump in if you see anything that is missing/incorrect here.

06-20-2006, 09:47 PM	#792
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	had chubby just been an excited rookie I would have no problem, but some of the observations he has made make me think he is shrewder then we think.

06-20-2006, 09:49 PM	#796
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- chubby, please don't take this as a personal attack because it isn't that at all. I think everyone here will vouch for me when I say that I am one of the more cordial players. It's just a "feel" I have.

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