Werewolf LXXXVIII: Game Thread

[hoopsguy]

Votes as of Post #747:

Hoops - Heinz (687), Danny (729), Danny (729)
PF - Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724)
Pass - Jackal (665), PF (691)
Heinz - Hoops (695)


Walls - Hoops (655), PackerFan (657), Heinz (686)

[Danny]

Read the last 10 posts, summary is in there.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Day 2 - I have said that I think the wolves would have wanted to avoid making an attention-raising vote on this day. Double work, or early votes that did not change, seem the easiest way to achieve that goal.

So if we took that same approach with day 3, that would put the leading candidates for suspicion as you and Packerfanatic since you both volunteered early to work on the wall correct?

[KWhit]

work on carprentry

[Danny]

The funny/sad thing so far is all the votes that have been casted are from people I don't particularly trust.

[Barkeep49]

Here's what I've got for a vote count:

PF – Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724)
Pass – Jackal (665), Packer (691)
Heinz – Hoops (695)
Hoops – Danny (729), Danny (729)

Walls – Hoops (655), Packer (657), Heinz (686)

[hoopsguy]

I would like to see the vote move to Heinz because I think he is the most likely demon. Gut based, so take that for what it is worth. But I'm absolutely going to move my vote to the place that affords me the best chance to live, short of putting it on someone who is cleared. None of the three people with votes right now fall in that category.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by KWhit

work on carprentry

Carpentry is done Kwhit

[Barkeep49]

Revised as of 756:

PF – Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724)
Pass – Jackal (665), Packer (691)
Heinz – Hoops (695)
Hoops – Heniz (687), Danny (729), Danny (729)

Walls – Hoops (655), Packer (657), Heinz (686)
Capentry – Kwhit (754)

[Danny]

Bk, now that Kwhit is locked into a repair action, IIRC if he puts into roof and the walls do get finished the roof action will still go through right?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Alan T

So if we took that same approach with day 3, that would put the leading candidates for suspicion as you and Packerfanatic since you both volunteered early to work on the wall correct?

You do understand that there is a context to each day, based on the way the vote is shaking out, the amount of work to do, etc? I think you do, but you seem to be ignoring it as you rebut my arguments while changing contexts.

If I had any worries at all about protecting myself - and a demon certainly would - then there would be zero reason to put myself out there today as working on the walls and leaving myself unable to have two votes. It is clearly a disadvantage for me at the moment.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Danny

Bk, now that Kwhit is locked into a repair action, IIRC if he puts into roof and the walls do get finished the roof action will still go through right?

Danny he is locked into repairing the carpentry today. He cannot change that action.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

I'd also love to see more thoughts/posts from CR, Kwhit, and Jonathan, they have all been very quiet this game overall.

Yup, that happens when I have worked 32 of the 72 hours or so since the game started, and that doesn't include 13 hours sleeping, 10 hours driving everywhere and 4 hours working out.

Should be around more tonight. BTW, working overtime sucks (and I work tomorrow both jobs, too, yuck).

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Should be around more tonight. BTW, working overtime sucks (and I work tomorrow both jobs, too, yuck).

Its ok, no weekend WW play in this game. So you'll be able to focus all of your time on celebrating your victory over my Valdosta team in FOOL

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

You do understand that there is a context to each day, based on the way the vote is shaking out, the amount of work to do, etc? I think you do, but you seem to be ignoring it as you rebut my arguments while changing contexts.

If I had any worries at all about protecting myself - and a demon certainly would - then there would be zero reason to put myself out there today as working on the walls and leaving myself unable to have two votes. It is clearly a disadvantage for me at the moment.

Just playing devil's advocate

(sorry, that was funny to me since I'm an angel and have the belief that you are a demon)

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Danny he is locked into repairing the carpentry today. He cannot change that action.

That sucks.

[Danny]

I just took a drink from something that had been sitting on my desk for a while and it tasted like nasty wine which is odd since it is crystal light. That was disgusting.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Danny

I just took a drink from something that had been sitting on my desk for a while and it tasted like nasty wine which is odd since it is crystal light. That was disgusting.

As Lucifer I did that to your drink. I suggest you change your vote to somthing more appropriate or else I'll do worse than that!

No, this is not a confession. Just trying to have some fun with the theme. Back to the regularly scheduled game.

[KWhit]

bah. This is hard to do on a PDA.
Vote packerfanatic

[Chief Rum]

I am leaning toward jeheinze with both of my votes. He has struck me as off this game, although I am trying to put more of a finger on it than just a "gut feeling". I know I don't like that he has voted for me and tried to trump up a case against me the other day, since I know I am good, and well, I don't like being lynched.

Also, though, he was the first to jump on hoops following Alan's request.

Since I still lean toward hoops not being a demon, it suggests to me that if I were a demon and I knew the angels were gunning for a non-demon, I would be pretty quick and supportive of that move.

In fact, I talked myself into it.

VOTE JEHEINZE
VOTE JEHEINZE

[RendeR]

Where do we need work done still?

Can I work on the roof?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Its ok, no weekend WW play in this game. So you'll be able to focus all of your time on celebrating your victory over my Valdosta team in FOOL

See, that's the sad part. I still have a ton of stuff to do to prepare for the sim, and instead I am here reading this thread, lol.

[RendeR]

Ok thats 3 with 3 and 1 with 2....

Fuckit.

VOTE PASSACAGLIA

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I am leaning toward jeheinze with both of my votes. He has struck me as off this game, although I am trying to put more of a finger on it than just a "gut feeling". I know I don't like that he has voted for me and tried to trump up a case against me the other day, since I know I am good, and well, I don't like being lynched.

Also, though, he was the first to jump on hoops following Alan's request.

Since I still lean toward hoops not being a demon, it suggests to me that if I were a demon and I knew the angels were gunning for a non-demon, I would be pretty quick and supportive of that move.

In fact, I talked myself into it.

VOTE JEHEINZE
VOTE JEHEINZE

Did it again.

Re-post to bold:

VOTE JEHEINZE
VOTE JEHEINZE

BK, please note this is NOT a new vote, just making sure you saw it.

[DaddyTorgo]

idk what to do. i'm all conflicted.

i'm generally against lynching hoops in most games. particularly because alan and him can both clash as villagers.

heinz is a bastard in my book from last game.

PF i don't really have a read on.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

See, that's the sad part. I still have a ton of stuff to do to prepare for the sim, and instead I am here reading this thread, lol.

It is ok, my impression was that he wasn't going to sim till like 3am or something where none of us will even be around for it. (Well you might with your crazy sleep schedule)

Hopefully your team preparation goes as poorly as that vote preparation does though!

[hoopsguy]

Think this is correct:

PF - Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724), KWhit (769)
Pass - Jackal (665), PF (691), RendeR (773)
Hoops - Heinz (687), Danny (729), Danny (729)
Heinz - Hoops (695), Chief (770), Chief (770)

Walls - Hoops (655), PackerFan (657), Heinz (686)
Carpentry - KWhit

[Danny]

I don't think Jeheinz is a bad option either. In fact, I think he or Pass are solid options for today along with Hoops. I'd be more inclined to change my vote if the angels changed their mind about trying to ensure a Hoopsguy lynch.

[DaddyTorgo]

this is fun. since i really have no frigging clue.


VOTE HOOPSGUY
VOTE JEHEINZ

[RendeR]

I will be here until 9:55 at which time BSG will be coming on and I will stop giving a damn about anything else in the universe.

[Barkeep49]

As of 776:

PF – Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724), KWhit (769)
Pass – Jackal (665), Packer (691), Render (773)
Heinz – Hoops (695), CR (770), CR (770)
Hoops – Heniz (687), Danny (729), Danny (729)

Walls – Hoops (655), Packer (657), Heinz (686)
Capentry – Kwhit (754)

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I will be here until 9:55 at which time BSG will be coming on and I will stop giving a damn about anything else in the universe.

Spoiler

Ellen Tigh is the final cylon

[RendeR]

WORK ON ROOF

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Danny

I don't think Jeheinz is a bad option either. In fact, I think he or Pass are solid options for today along with Hoops. I'd be more inclined to change my vote if the angels changed their mind about trying to ensure a Hoopsguy lynch.

My mind is set on Hoopsguy for today, as if he still lives, the doubt I have about him will continue to be there tomorrow and the next day and the next.

I don't like the jeheinz vote at all personally.

As it is however, the village appears to have decided that they do not wish for us to help continue to safeguard their spiritual health as they are going to force us to vote instead. So if Hoopsguy is indeed bad, not only is he possibly escaping the lynch, he has convinced you all to put your own spiritual health at risk.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Spoiler

Ellen Tigh is the final cylon

Knew that before the last episode aired

[Alan T]

And a further note, all of the people trying their hardest to keep it a 2-3-4 way tie, all you are doing is sentencing someone else to death. As it is, Hoopsguy will move his vote to Packerfanatic to ensure Packerfanatic dies.

So you may think it is tied, or you may be wanting to play it as keeping it tied, but you're votes aren't really tying it.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

VOTE HOOPSGUY

VOTE HOOPSGUY

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Alan T

My mind is set on Hoopsguy for today, as if he still lives, the doubt I have about him will continue to be there tomorrow and the next day and the next.

I don't like the jeheinz vote at all personally.

As it is however, the village appears to have decided that they do not wish for us to help continue to safeguard their spiritual health as they are going to force us to vote instead. So if Hoopsguy is indeed bad, not only is he possibly escaping the lynch, he has convinced you all to put your own spiritual health at risk.

See now that last bit just sounds like grandstanding, its meaningless since we have no clue what that might mean for us as a village. Stop flapping your wings and DO something, one way or the other.

[Tyrith]

vote count?

[Danny]

Also keep in mind that any tie will result in a PF lynch.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Alan T

My mind is set on Hoopsguy for today, as if he still lives, the doubt I have about him will continue to be there tomorrow and the next day and the next.

I don't like the jeheinz vote at all personally.

As it is however, the village appears to have decided that they do not wish for us to help continue to safeguard their spiritual health as they are going to force us to vote instead. So if Hoopsguy is indeed bad, not only is he possibly escaping the lynch, he has convinced you all to put your own spiritual health at risk.

Then hopefully we get at least one demon along the way to help compensate. Not that I don't care about our spiritual health, but I'm not willing to lay down my own life needlessly for a benefit that has not been explained in the thread.

Who knows, maybe this will turn out like BK's last game we were in together, where I live by your mercy for a couple of days (oh Captain, my Captain) and it works out well for both of us in the end. But you probably won't like that comparison either ...

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

As of 776:

PF – Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724), KWhit (769)
Pass – Jackal (665), Packer (691), Render (773)
Heinz – Hoops (695), CR (770), CR (770), DT (775)
Hoops – Heniz (687), Danny (729), Danny (729), DT (775)

Walls – Hoops (655), Packer (657), Heinz (686)
Capentry – Kwhit (754)

Mean vote (I added DT's votes to BK's voting record, bolded above):

PF == 720.5
Heinz == 752.5
Hoops == 730

FYI, Pass with three votes is at 709.7

[Tyrith]

Sorry, see it now.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Alan T

And a further note, all of the people trying their hardest to keep it a 2-3-4 way tie, all you are doing is sentencing someone else to death. As it is, Hoopsguy will move his vote to Packerfanatic to ensure Packerfanatic dies.

So you may think it is tied, or you may be wanting to play it as keeping it tied, but you're votes aren't really tying it.

See my previous post. You of all people should know how terribly that style of play goes over around here.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by RendeR

See now that last bit just sounds like grandstanding, its meaningless since we have no clue what that might mean for us as a village. Stop flapping your wings and DO something, one way or the other.

+1

[Chief Rum]

And JE makes a tie moot.

I hope the Angels are right, even if it means i have gotten in bed with a demon by voting with hoops on heinz.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Alan T

And a further note, all of the people trying their hardest to keep it a 2-3-4 way tie, all you are doing is sentencing someone else to death. As it is, Hoopsguy will move his vote to Packerfanatic to ensure Packerfanatic dies.

So you may think it is tied, or you may be wanting to play it as keeping it tied, but you're votes aren't really tying it.

Yes, I will move it to an uncleared person to keep myself alive.

Also, I'm done providing vote count updates because I now need to keep locked in on the clock in order to maximize my switch.

Note - I would not advertise this as a demon. I'm trying to still be a good teammate for my remaining moments as a villager.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by RendeR

See my previous post. You of all people should know how terribly that style of play goes over around here.

Considering you never see my side on anything even when I am good and am right (which may or may not be the case here), I don't really consider I'll ever convince you of anything, even if it was to tell you that you were on fire when your pantsleg was burning.

I am not grandstanding, I just don't think the cute tie-game play is really cute, I think it is counterproductive and not helpful actually.

[Alan T]

Someone will have to go way out of their way to save him if they would like to put themselves on the spot to do so here.

Vote Hoopsguy
Vote Hooopsguy

[RealDeal]

Can't risk it. Voting is really strange and suspicious so far:

Vote Hoopsguy

Vote Hoopsguy