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Old 10-14-2009, 08:28 PM   #751
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Their defense is really bad.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:29 PM   #752
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So...Tulsa/Boise State?
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:43 PM   #753
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Jozy looks amazing. Is there a reason they don't start him every game? He's been responsible for two chances that should have been goals.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:59 PM   #754
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The US has blown a few good chances, the 2-0 scoreline is a bit harsh imo. I wouldn't be surprised if they got a draw in the second half.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:30 PM   #755
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The announcer just said that if Jozy were to get another yellow, he would have to miss the 1st World Cup game. Is this true? And if so, why the fuck would you have him on the field right now in a meaningless game?
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:36 PM   #756
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:56 PM   #757
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So apparently John C. Reilly is coaching Costa Rica right now.
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:59 PM   #758
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WOW!
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:59 PM   #759
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Suck it, John C. Reilly!
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Old 10-14-2009, 09:59 PM   #760
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:00 PM   #761
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LOL

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that's awesome

USA just scored in the last possible second on a corner to deny costa rica their world cup berth (assuming honduras score holds)
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:00 PM   #762
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Holy shit that was awesome
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:02 PM   #763
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Okay, so what happened with their coach? I must concede that I was paying more attention to FM at that time.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:03 PM   #764
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That is fucking awesome. Costa Rica delays like crazy, fakes injuries to stall, has 2 coaches ejected, then blows it in the last minute of stoppage time.

Still, a real bad 48 hours for the team. They lose Davies for the World Cup and it looks like Onyewu might have blown out his knee.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:04 PM   #765
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Okay, so what happened with their coach? I must concede that I was paying more attention to FM at that time.
Not completely sure. They were really stalling bad and he was distracting the guy holding the substitution sign.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:06 PM   #766
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Does winning the group help the U.S. in seeding at all for the World Cup draw?
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:08 PM   #767
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Does winning the group help the U.S. in seeding at all for the World Cup draw?
No, it's based on FIFA ranking and previous performances in the WC.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:09 PM   #768
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That last minute, ten man equalizer means USA tops the group, suck it Mexico.

Sucks for Costa Rica. Their strength and conditioning coach (running the team after the manager and assistant were sent off and escorted off the field by DC police) looked like he was about to cry. Honestly though they had like three chances the entire match and scored two, USA had a lot more shots on goal and posession. Honduras are better than they are, I'm glad they'll be guaranteed a spot in the WC instead (although I will be rooting for Costa Rica against Uruguay out of CONCACAF solidarity).
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:20 PM   #769
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Okay, so what happened with their coach? I must concede that I was paying more attention to FM at that time.

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Old 10-15-2009, 02:39 AM   #770
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On Sportcenter they said Onyewu has a torn tendon in his knee and he will be out 3-4 months. At least he'll be back in time for the World Cup but damn.
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Old 10-15-2009, 03:11 AM   #771
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Jozy looks amazing. Is there a reason they don't start him every game? He's been responsible for two chances that should have been goals.
Because he "doesn't have match fitness" due to not playing frequently for Hull. I personally think he's incredibly lazy if he doesn't go running on the days he doesn't play matches, or it's incredibly dumb reasoning, especially because guys like Onyewu, Cherundolo, in the past Beasley, Guzan, etc apparently have no problem running 90 minutes despite not doing so in league play.
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Honduras are better than they are, I'm glad they'll be guaranteed a spot in the WC instead (although I will be rooting for Costa Rica against Uruguay out of CONCACAF solidarity).
F that. I will root for Diego Forlan and Luis Suarez over diving CA PoS's any day of the week. Only team worse is Guatemala (and maybe Mexico/El Salvador).

So overall, we clinch qualification and finish first, but arguably our best defender, midfielder and forward are all out long-term with leg injuries. Ugh. Let's go 2014!
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:14 AM   #772
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Really happy we could

1) Win the group
2) Send Honduras through to the world cup

We tailgated with a bunch of Honduran fans before a Gold Cup doubleheader in Philly this summer (USA/Panama and Honduras/Canada) and they were tremendous. That and the fact that Wilson Palacios plays for Tottenham have left me with a real affinity for them.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:40 AM   #773
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On Sportcenter they said Onyewu has a torn tendon in his knee and he will be out 3-4 months. At least he'll be back in time for the World Cup but damn.

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Old 10-15-2009, 12:19 PM   #774
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Radio call from Honduras, very emotional, goal scored 'round 20 second mark
YouTube - Honduras qualificado por el mundial en South Africa

Video of Hounduran celebration: "Gringos! Gringos! Gringos!"
YouTube - Honduras Qualifies To The 2010 World Cup

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Old 10-16-2009, 04:48 PM   #775
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Ghana just beat Brazil in sudden death penalty kicks to win the U-20 World Cup. First time an African team has won and to do it on African soil no less (in Egypt) is pretty impressive.

They played a man down from the 37-minute mark, pushed it past extra time to penalty kicks. Brazil had chances, but choked on two kicks that would've won it and Ghana scored on their last shot to tie on the 5th kick to go to sudden death. Brazil missed one and then Ghana pulled it out on their first try of the sudden death kick phase.

I only watched the last few minutes of it, but...Ghana did a heck of a job.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:11 PM   #776
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Because he "doesn't have match fitness" due to not playing frequently for Hull. I personally think he's incredibly lazy if he doesn't go running on the days he doesn't play matches, or it's incredibly dumb reasoning, especially because guys like Onyewu, Cherundolo, in the past Beasley, Guzan, etc apparently have no problem running 90 minutes despite not doing so in league play.F that. I will root for Diego Forlan and Luis Suarez over diving CA PoS's any day of the week. Only team worse is Guatemala (and maybe Mexico/El Salvador).

So overall, we clinch qualification and finish first, but arguably our best defender, midfielder and forward are all out long-term with leg injuries. Ugh. Let's go 2014!

So, you're saying diving is exclusive to Central America? I think you've just been watching too much CONCACAF.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:14 PM   #777
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I don't think Guzan could run for 90 minutes.
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Old 10-16-2009, 05:50 PM   #778
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Wait a second, somebody mentioned Luis Suarez as a good example of a non-diver? His reputation in the Netherlands is that of being the biggest diver (and best player) in the league.
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:12 PM   #779
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I'm glad Ghana won the U-20 World Cup, I thought their red card in the first half was a bad decision and Brazil played boringly despite being a man up for nearly 90 minutes.
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Old 10-16-2009, 06:20 PM   #780
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Agreed, Brazil absolutely had more talent and should have romped Ghana, especially after the red card. But they allowed Ghana to play their risk-averse game, and got the L they deserved for allowing Ghana to play that way...

Nevertheless, I've been waiting for an African nation to become a powerhouse in futbol. If France/England/Germany would stop stealing all the young talent, it may happen...

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Old 10-16-2009, 06:28 PM   #781
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Who has England stolen that was actually born and raised in an African nation? I can't think of one off the top of my head... if anything it's British born players qualifying to play for African nations that come to mind.

NM - I think you were talking about African players leaving to play in academies in Europe. Then I definitely agree with what Ronnie says below, there is no way an African team has success unless their players are playing in the top international leagues.

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Old 10-16-2009, 06:37 PM   #782
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Wouldn't African nations benefit more from their players training in excellent environments? Does that outweigh them all playing together?
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Old 10-17-2009, 10:46 AM   #783
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Sweet goal for Darren Bent, bouncing it off a balloon on the field.



Nice of Villa to get the win today.

edit: And Sunderland too. United win 2-1 to go top.

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Old 10-17-2009, 02:20 PM   #784
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pure gold reminds me of this :




if Europe wouldn´t "steal" all those talents they´d be still loosing 0:8 in the WC.

Seriously, have you ever seen a soccer game in Africa ? Or googled it a bit ?
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Old 10-17-2009, 03:04 PM   #785
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I read watravaler's comment as being against European nations that naturalize Africans and have them play for their national teams, not European clubs bringing African players over.

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Old 10-17-2009, 04:14 PM   #786
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Dejan Stankovic scores on a volley from near the midfield line right before the end of the half. Unbelievable effort.




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Old 10-17-2009, 05:31 PM   #787
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So overall, we clinch qualification and finish first, but arguably our best defender, midfielder and forward are all out long-term with leg injuries. Ugh. Let's go 2014!

Will those guys be back for South Africa? If so will they be 100%?

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Old 10-18-2009, 08:56 AM   #788
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I read about this fixed match the second division of one of the Brazilian state leagues the other day, now here's a video. Viana scored 9 goals in the last 9 minutes in an 11-0 victory, winning them promotion to the first division. This is an absolute disgrace, the "defending" is comical and these guys are very bad actors.

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Old 10-18-2009, 09:42 AM   #789
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What makes it even worse is the backstory - the is was one of two teams tied for the top spot, even GD & goals scored. Towards the end of the final games, both being played at the same time, both teams were winning 2-0. So the one team magically scores 9 goals in 9 minutes to ensure the top spot...

But the other team fighting for the title were down to 10 men and somehow themselves were added 3 penalities in the same timeframe! So disqualifying the one sides promotion would only let in the other team who also cheated, just not as well!

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Old 10-18-2009, 08:32 PM   #790
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So, you're saying diving is exclusive to Central America? I think you've just been watching too much CONCACAF.
Clearly not, but they're some of the worst offenders and it's not like I cheer for Portugal or Italy either. MIJB's point about Suarez being a diver is a better point - not having seen much CONMEBOL or Eredivisie I'll take his word.
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Will those guys be back for South Africa? If so will they be 100%?
Onyewu should be back around January, although his lack of playing time for Milan is worrisome and his form was suffering. Jermaine Jones should also be back for the spring, but his return has already been pushed back and needed a 2nd surgery so he's more uncertain. Davies is pretty unlikely, but he's as tenacious a player/person as we have, so maybe he can outperform all expectations for recovery.
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:46 AM   #791
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Ireland v France, Portugal v Bosnia-Herzegovina, Greece v Ukraine, Russia v Slovenia
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:33 AM   #792
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lol - i think we all saw that coming
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:14 AM   #793
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To hell with FIFA, I hope all four lower ranked teams win.

It turns out that Darren Bent's goal actually bounced off a beach ball, not a balloon. And the beach ball was part of an official Liverpool beach set (bag, towel, beach ball) available on Liverpool's website and club store. Now rival fans are buying them up (recently halved in price down to £10), I bet a bunch of Man Utd fans bring them to Anfield on Sunday. I wonder if the Liverpool fan who threw the ball onto the field got his ass kicked after the game.

The ref should have stopped play when Bent's shot hit the ball and done a drop ball. Now he's been demoted to the Championship for next weekend's games.
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Ireland/France clearly the marquee matchup. Gonna be pretty sweet viewing. Pulling for ROI personally.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:24 AM   #795
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Also, where my MLS fans at? The last week of the regular season is going to be insane. Zillions of playoff possibilites.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:09 PM   #796
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It'll be an interesting day, six teams going for two places.

It'd be cool if Saturday's broadcast switched from NYRB-TFC, KC-DC, RSL-COL, and SSFC-FCD kind of like the NFL Red Zone Channel but the games all have different start times. At least FSC will have RSL-COL and New England will likely still be in it on Sunday against Columbus on ESPN2.

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Old 10-19-2009, 05:12 PM   #797
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Ireland/France clearly the marquee matchup. Gonna be pretty sweet viewing. Pulling for ROI personally.
Most media coverage certainly, but I think Bosnia-Portugal is a better matchup. I really like Bosnia's attacking group of Misimovic, Dzeko, Ibisevic, Salihovic and Pjanic.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:12 PM   #798
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Interesting, I actually think the Greece - Ukraine matchup is the biggest one of the World Cup playoffs, they were the 2nd and 3rd best second place teams. I do wonder why FIFA had to make up a lame excuse to force Portugal into a seeded spot so they could avoid France and Russia. An all in one bowl would have been fairest, or at least make the seeding based on the ranking order that pushed Norway out of the World Cup.
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Lyon picks up a nice late win 2-1 over a Liverpool team missing Torres and Gerrard after an early injury. Lyon really turned it up and looked dominant when trying for the equalizer, but then sat back the last 15. Still got the win though on an injury time counter. I'd forgotten just how much talent Lyon had despite losing Benzema and Juninho - of course using the Benzema money to acquire Lisandro Lopez and Aly Cissokho from Porto was a good start, and Gomis a nice topper.

Rubin Kazan pulls off the shocker of the early CL with the 2-1 win at Barca, thanks in part to a miracle strike (Ibra's response wasn't bad either) so early the commentators didn't even catch it

Also saw the 2nd half of Hull-Fulham yesterday, and the less said the better. Hull came out playing for a 0-0 tie at Fulham, and continued playing extremely negative football even down 1-0 until Fulham added a 2nd. At that point, Hull brought on Jozy for the last 20 and he single-handedly created Hull's best chance, but put it over.
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