Werewolf CXXXII: THE CUBE (Game Over: Construction Workers win!)

[MrBug708]

Sorry JS

[mauchow]

Good as it gets for us, aside from lynching a villager. No wacky tactics from the jester. Did anybody figure out the formula for this because I didn't vote the correct door.

[Narcizo]

I did. For which I take no credit other than a fondness of a certain type of yoghurt as a child.

[Narcizo]

Day One

00:50 #82 - Autumn votes CrimsonFox (1)
02:09 #84 - Narcizo votes Zinto (1)
02:32 #86 - McKerney votes Darth Vilus (1)
09:48 #97 - Packer votes Autumn (1)
10:32 #100 - NTN votes Zinto (2)
12:18 #130 - Dwardzala votes Darth Vilus (2)

16:49 #177 - Darth Vilus votes J23 (1)
17:25 #181 - Schmidty votes Zinto (3)
17:29 #182 - Bhlloy votes CrimsonFox (2)
18:07 #192 - Tyrith votes CrimsonFox (3)
18:10 #193 - J23 votes Darth Vilus (3)
18:20 #194 - CrimsonFox votes Darth Vilus (4)

19:22 #199 - Abe Sargent votes Zinto (4)
19:36 #200 - Mauboy votes CrimsonFox (4)
19:42 #201 - Zinto votes Darth Vilus (5)
19:42 #202 - MrBug votes CrimsonFox (5)
20:50 #209 - Hoopsguy votes Darth Vilus (6)
21:48 #214 - Telle votes Darth Vilus (7)

[Narcizo]

Day Two – Main Thread

23:11 #267 Tyrith votes dwardzala (1)
01:06 #305 Bhlloy votes ntndeacon (1)
03:58 #331 Narcizo votes MrBug (1)
08:53 #359 Danny votes ntndeacon (2)
09:20 #360 PackerFanatic votes dwardzala (2)
12:07 #372 Zinto votes Schmidty (1)
14:49 #383 Narcizo unvotes MrBug (0)
14:49 #383 Narcizo votes Schmidty (2)
15:18 #384 J23 votes dwardzala (3)
16:08 #390 CrimsonFox votes ntndeacon (3)
16:16 #391 Hoopsguy votes dwardzala (4)

21:54 #441 Danny unvotes ntndeacon (2)
21:54 #441 Danny votes dwardzala (5)
21:55 #442 Bhlloy unvotes ntndeacon (1)
21:55 #442 Bhlloy votes dwardzala (6)
21:55 #443 CrimsonFox unvotes ntndeacon (0)
21:55 #443 CrimsonFox votes dwardzala (7)
21:56 #446 Bhlloy unvotes dwardzala (6)
22:00 #453 Bhlloy votes ntndeacon (1)

Day Two – Splitter Thread

09:59 #44 mauboy votes CrimsonFox (1)
14:04 #49 Abe Seargent votes CrimsonFox (2)
14:58 #50 mckerney votes CrimsonFox (3)
15:56 #53 Autumn votes CrimsonFox (4)
16:25 #55 Schmidty votes Zinto (1)
16:40 #56 MrBug votes CrimsonFox (5)
17:50 #57 ntndeacon votes Zinto (2)
18:37 #59 dwardzala votes CrimsonFox (6)

20:00 #61 Autumn unvotes CrimsonFox (5)
20:00 #61 Autumn votes Zinto (3)
20:30 #64 Telle votes CrimsonFox (6)
21:57 #73 Autumn unvotes Zinto (2)
21:57 #73 Autumn votes CrimsonFox (7)

Combined

23:11 #267 Tyrith votes dwardzala (1)
01:06 #305 Bhlloy votes ntndeacon (1)
03:58 #331 Narcizo votes MrBug (1)
08:53 #359 Danny votes ntndeacon (2)
09:20 #360 PackerFanatic votes dwardzala (2)
09:59 #44 mauboy votes CrimsonFox (1)
12:07 #372 Zinto votes Schmidty (1)
14:04 #49 Abe Seargent votes CrimsonFox (2)
14:49 #383 Narcizo unvotes MrBug (0)
14:49 #383 Narcizo votes Schmidty (2)
14:58 #50 mckerney votes CrimsonFox (3)
15:18 #384 J23 votes dwardzala (3)
15:56 #53 Autumn votes CrimsonFox (4)

16:08 #390 CrimsonFox votes ntndeacon (3)
16:16 #391 Hoopsguy votes dwardzala (4)
16:25 #55 Schmidty votes Zinto (1)
16:40 #56 MrBug votes CrimsonFox (5)
17:50 #57 ntndeacon votes Zinto (2)
18:37 #59 dwardzala votes CrimsonFox (6)
20:00 #61 Autumn unvotes CrimsonFox (5)
20:00 #61 Autumn votes Zinto (3)
20:30 #64 Telle votes CrimsonFox (6)

21:54 #441 Danny unvotes ntndeacon (2)
21:54 #441 Danny votes dwardzala (5)
21:55 #442 Bhlloy unvotes ntndeacon (1)
21:55 #442 Bhlloy votes dwardzala (6)
21:55 #443 CrimsonFox unvotes ntndeacon (0)
21:55 #443 CrimsonFox votes dwardzala (7)
21:56 #446 Bhlloy unvotes dwardzala (6)
21:57 #73 Autumn unvotes Zinto (2)
21:57 #73 Autumn votes CrimsonFox (7)
22:00 #453 Bhlloy votes ntndeacon (1)[/quote]

[Narcizo]

Day Four

22:48 #596 Tyrith votes Zinto (1)
02:03 #622 MrBug votes Zinto (2)
03:30 #630 Narcizo votes Bhlloy (1)
09:18 #634 Packer votes Bhlloy (2)
11:13 #637 Bhlloy votes Zinto (3)
14:39 #640 Danny votes Bhlloy (3)
15:34 #641 Zinto votes Bhlloy (4)
16:55 #647 Hoops votes Zinto (4)
17:01 #648 Schmidty votes Zinto (5)
18:21 #650 J23 votes Zinto (6)
19:31 #652 mckerney votes Bhlloy (5)
21:57 #656 mau votes Zinto (7)

[Narcizo]

Day Five

02:13 #690 Narcizo votes Packer (1)
09:01 #697 Packer votes J23 (1)
14:58 #712 J23 votes Packer (2)
16:23 #719 Telle votes J23 (2)
16:49 #722 mau votes Telle (1)
19:08 #727 Tyrith votes J23 (3)
20:59 #735 Hoops votes J23 (4)
21:40 #738 MrBug votes J23 (5)
21:43 #740 Schmidty votes Packer (3)

No Votes: Danny, NTN.

[Narcizo]

Day One

7 Darth Vilus - mckerney (86), dwardzala (130), J23 (193), CrimsonFox (194), Zinto (201), hoopsguy (209), Telle (214)
5 CrimsonFox - Autumn (82), bhlloy (182), Tyrith (192), mauboy1 (200), MrBug (202)
4 Zinto - Narcizo (84), ntndeacon (100), Schmidty (181), Abe Sargent (199)
1 Autumn - PackerFanatic (97)
1 J23 - Darth Vilus (177)

No Vote: Danny

Day Two - Main Thread

6 dwardzala - Tyrith (267), PackerFanatic (360), J23 (384), hoopsguy (391), Danny (441), CrimsonFox (443)
2 Schmidty - Zinto (372), Narcizo (383)
1 ntndeacon - bhlloy (453)

Day Two - Splitter Thread

7 CrimsonFox - mauboy1 (44), Abe Sargent (49), mckerney (50), MrBug708 (56), dwardzala (59), Telle (64), Autumn (73)
2 Zinto - Schmidty (55), ntndeacon (57)

Day Three

12 dwardzala - Narcizo (524), PackerFanatic (532), mauboy1 (540), Tyrith (545), bhlloy (554), Telle (555), MrBug708 (558), hoopsguy (568), Danny (577), Schmidty (579), mckerney (582), J23 (584)
1 Zinto - Abe Sargent (553)
1 Schmidty - Zinto (562)

No Vote: NTN

Day Four

7 Zinto - Tyrith (596), MrBug708 (622), bhlloy (637), hoopsguy (647), Schmidty (648), J23 (650), mauboy1 (656)
5 bhlloy - Narcizo (630), PackerFanatic (634), Danny (640), Zinto (641), mckerney (652)

No Vote: NTN

Day Five

5 J23 - PackerFanatic (697), Telle (719), Tyrith (727), hoopsguy (735), MrBug708 (738)
3 PackerFanatic - Narcizo (690), J23 (712), Schmidty (740)
1 Telle - mauboy1 (722)

No Vote: NTN, Danny

[Narcizo]

I've just checked and checked and NTN hasn't voted since day two while Danny's missed two votes. Danny's arguments yesterday really didn't make sense to me nor did the way he was avoiding including Packer in his assessment. I think a Danny lynch gets more information than an NTN lynch so

Vote Danny

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I got in a last-second vote for the peach door. Still have no clue what the "right" doors mean.

I think "right" means "villager" as in the doors we have to pick in order to escape the Cube.

Only 24 more posts till I overtake Crimson as the leading player poster. I'm never voting CrimsonFox in a game again.

[Narcizo]

ATVOK = Vöcklamarkt port code in Austria.

How the hell is there a port in Austria?

[Danny]

Really sorry guys, I fell asleep after coming home and just now woke up. I think sticking with the plan from yesterday is still a good idea which now puts Packer, Narcisco and I as the main candidates. I think Narcisco is trying to capitalize on my absence at this point and my vote will likely fall there. But I will look things over more before deciding for sure.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Danny

I think Narcisco is trying to capitalize on my absence at this point and my vote will likely fall there. But I will look things over more before deciding for sure.

Fair enough about the capitalising on your absence thingy but it's not really the only problem I have with you. There's the tunnel-vision on it being J23 or me despite Packer's voting record being no better than J23's or mine. That strikes me as either you protecting him now or, re-thinking things, subtly incriminating him should you come up bad. And the fact that you don't seem to want to commit to a vote.

Same deal as yesterday - I'm happy to move my vote elsewhere if there's a better candidate or no votes on Danny by 16:00 EST. But could people try to get some votes out there earlier today - you can always move them.

[Danny]

Certainly wasn't tunnel vision, I felt the two of you were stronger candidates and I said so. Part of it is I typically am able to read Packer well. Since I missed the whole day and hadn't looked things over much (and it being in the middle of the night), I didn't feel the need to jump to a vote. The same can't be said about you.

[PackerFanatic]

Sorry J23

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I've just checked and checked and NTN hasn't voted since day two while Danny's missed two votes. Danny's arguments yesterday really didn't make sense to me nor did the way he was avoiding including Packer in his assessment. I think a Danny lynch gets more information than an NTN lynch so

Vote Danny

Not that it matters much, since day 3 was the runaway day on dward, but NTN did have a vote that day (post 587) that I am pretty sure Jackal counted.

[PackerFanatic]

Telle also had a no-vote on Day 4

[PackerFanatic]

Looking back at day 1 (which at this point, might be our best voting record day based on what has happened since), we had the following on the block

-Darth (confirmed villager): 2 neutral, 1 scientist, 2 villagers, hoops (assumed villager), and Telle

-Crimson (confirmed neutral): 2 scientists, Tyrith (assumed villager), mayboy, and MrBug

-Zinto (confirmed villager): Narc, ntn, Schmidty, Abe (confirmed construction worker)

-They two "throw-away" votes on Autumn (confirmed scientist) by me, and one by DV on J23 (both confirmed villagers)

With the fact we had 3 non-wolves on the block that day, it would be fairly easy for any of the wolves to hide their votes and look none-the-wiser like the rest of us. There really isn't anyone out there with a pristine voting record (and it's hard to judge what is good anyway, with a 2nd wolf team out there) but the vote that jumps out to me most if the last vote on DV on Day 1. So that is where I look today.

VOTE TELLE

[Danny]

Alright, I'm going to get a vote in early this morning. I see no reason not to choose between Narcisco and Packer. While both players do not look great in their past votes, I see no reason at this point not to go against my feeling on Packer. In addition, Narcisco has gotten no votes and no real pressure from what I can tell.

Vote Narcisco

[PackerFanatic]

I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a Narc vote...I think we'd actually learn a lot from that one. Although we'd lose a lot of discussion too

[Danny]

And I just realized how wrong my spelling of his name has been lol

Just in case that one didn't count.

Vote Narcizo

[Danny]

Oh and FWIW, my voting record is pristine, 3 votes for a wolf and 2 non votes haha

[PackerFanatic]

3 votes for scientists

[hoopsguy]

Danny, why are you more interested in PF/Narcizo than in Telle today?

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a Narc vote...I think we'd actually learn a lot from that one. Although we'd lose a lot of discussion too

Sorry but what would we learn by lynching me? We're in a strong enough position that it's not going to hurt us if I get lynched today. As far as I can see all we'll learn is to lynch Danny or you tomorrow.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Danny

Certainly wasn't tunnel vision, I felt the two of you were stronger candidates and I said so. Part of it is I typically am able to read Packer well. Since I missed the whole day and hadn't looked things over much (and it being in the middle of the night), I didn't feel the need to jump to a vote. The same can't be said about you.

You said you didn't get a wolfy vibe from any of us but because of voting records you thought J23 and I were more likely to be wolves because a) there ought to be a wolf vote on Zinto (there was already) or b) you would think there ought to be a wolf vote on DV. But nothing about the fact that Packer had a throwaway vote. Sorry if I misinterpreted you but I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from. Anyway given the fact that there was a wolf vote on Zinto (Abe's) and J23 was a villager, shouldn't your own logic mean you vote Telle as the only non-cleared on DV?

I feel like getting votes out based on what I feel is generally better than sitting around waiting to see what everyone else does. Partly down to the time zone difference where I pretty much have to commit before anyone else anyway. But you stated that you were looking at me or J23 - would it have been so bad to vote for one of us there and then. You could always move the vote later. I don't understand the need to hold onto the vote and risk what actually happened, that you miss it altogether. It just looks like you're holding onto the vote because you're worried what it will say about you.

I'll admit that my vote today was partly due to frustration at the general lack of activity in the game and when I saw that ntn and you hadn't voted I felt pretty angry about it. But apart from the missed votes you've actually been one of the more active players in the game so I feel a bit bad about it. But, like you, I'm pretty certain that either Packer, you or I have to be a wolf.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Danny, why are you more interested in PF/Narcizo than in Telle today?

Thinking about this, more pertinently Packer why are you more interested in voting Telle than Narcizo/Danny today. If you're a villager either you don't agree with Danny and my assessment that one of us three must be a wolf or you think there's more than a 50/50 chance that Telle is a wolf. I know I was saying that Danny should vote Telle according to his own logic but really his idea is right. One of us three must be a wolf or the construction workers didn't have any members on our side of the thread on day two. Okay, it's possible that the division was made completely randomly and all the construction workers wound up on the other thread but I think the odds are against it.

Packers' vote on Telle just reminds me of what Bhlloy tried after dwardza was lynched. Deflect attention for the group you're in by voting for someone different. I have my doubts about Danny and think he could easily be a wolf as well but Packer voting Telle just says he doesn't want a conclusion on our side.

Under the current circumstances I'm happy to take one for the team as long as you guys just carry on and lynch Danny and Packer after me. Pretty certain we'll win that way. I know I'm flip-flopping and that looks bad but this just feels like the Chess game where I didn't know my head from my arse by the end. Luckily the game isn't riding on me here even if I'm right and everyone else is wrong about the number of wolves in the game (and I grudgingly admit that there is a possibility that I'm wrong about that. I certainly hope so).

Unvote Danny
Vote Packer

[PackerFanatic]

I do want a conclusion - and I guess I didn't realize the connection about the remaining members from this thread until now. I was going after DV voters, but I think you are right about there being a wolf between the three of us. Knowing that I am a villager, it is between you and Danny.

UNVOTE TELLE
VOTE NARCIZO

[mauchow]

LOL I've got a feeling we may get two wolves out of those three.time will tell. Not sure where my vote is going. I'd prefer not throwing my vote away if telle isn't going to gain traction. If its between narc and pf I'll have to give more thought on it. So for now.
.

vote telle

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

LOL I've got a feeling we may get two wolves out of those three.time will tell. Not sure where my vote is going. I'd prefer not throwing my vote away if telle isn't going to gain traction. If its between narc and pf I'll have to give more thought on it. So for now.
.

vote telle

So does this suggest that you think there is a >66.6% chance that Telle is a wolf?

[Danny]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Danny, why are you more interested in PF/Narcizo than in Telle today?

Primarily due to the room split in which it's more likely to find a wolf among those who remained in the main thread and me being one of those three, I feel its a good bet to find a wolf among the other two.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So does this suggest that you think there is a >66.6% chance that Telle is a wolf?

Yeah, I thought his post was pretty funny

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I do want a conclusion - and I guess I didn't realize the connection about the remaining members from this thread until now.

Because we've only been mentioning it in every other post for the last couple of days.

So I've got to be going soon. If you do lynch me then lynch Packer and Danny afterwards. I'd rather stay alive to try and find the wolves but I can see that my actions today have been a bit suspect. It's always the way - I get too caught up in the game and start spazzing out. Unless both Packer and Danny are wolves I don't really have much of a read of who in the other thread is suspect because most of them haven't really said much.

[mauchow]

True! Hah! Its probably more like 50/50 with Danny, narc, pf and telle. So a 50% shot that there are 2 wolves in that bunch which may end this game for us. This odd bantering is what is pinging me a little, that's all.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

I've just checked and checked and NTN hasn't voted since day two while Danny's missed two votes. Danny's arguments yesterday really didn't make sense to me nor did the way he was avoiding including Packer in his assessment. I think a Danny lynch gets more information than an NTN lynch so

Vote Danny

I did vote day three for dward. I missed the next day because I was not online all day Friday. (if I had realized that would be the case I would have voted on Thursday night.) The next one was due to me not getting back to th computer til Sunday... then neglecting to vote when I came on to comment. thee will be a vote rom me today..

[Danny]

What I find odd is the lack of activity. I feel I've been pretty inactive for me this game and I'm still only behind Crimson and Narcizo in posts.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I did vote day three for dward. I missed the next day because I was not online all day Friday. (if I had realized that would be the case I would have voted on Thursday night.) The next one was due to me not getting back to th computer til Sunday... then neglecting to vote when I came on to comment. thee will be a vote rom me today..

vote rom? Doesn't this belong in the republican primary thread?

[ntndeacon]

from. lol. sorry about that. and thee should be there too.

[ntndeacon]

Vote Narcizo

[hoopsguy]

Gut feeling here is that Narcizo and Telle are less likely to be wolves than Danny and PackerFanatic.

Telle - I don't think she introduces an argument against J23 that gets her whacked next if she is a wolf. I think she and the other wolves keep mum about that, hoping that it doesn't come up.

Narcizo - just feels like forces are lining against him, relative to the other players under consideration.

So I'm going to look at voting for Danny or PackerFanatic, whichever one I think will get the most traction, in an effort to try and keep alive the people I pseudo-trust more.

For now,
VOTE PACKERFANATIC

[Abe Sargent]

Tomorrow, check out SCG.com (in my sig still) and see my first article, again, live, for the SCG peops!!!

[mauchow]

unvote telle

I just noticed I was the only one on telle. Time to switch then...

Of the two up there now.. pf and narc..

vote pf

I will be home an hour or so before deadline so I should be able to participate more then.

[Telle]

Don't know if I'll be around at deadline, so I need to get a vote in now (my son managed to smash his finger while playing musical chairs at school today.. we have a 7:30 appointment with his doctor and may have to go for x-rays).

I don't really like how Narcizo has been controlling and steering conversation. Maybe it's just because the rest of us are so quiet.. but I dunno.

vote Narcizo

[The Jackal]

4 - Narcizo - Danny (771), PackerFanatic (778), ntndeacon (789), Telle (793)
3 - PackerFanatic - Narcizo (777), hoopsguy (790), mauboy1 (792)

[Telle]

Votes as of post #793:

4 - Narcizo - Danny (769), PackerFanatic (778), ntndeacon (789), Telle (793)
3 - PackerFanatic - Narcizo (777), hoopsguy (790), mauboy (792)

Yet to vote: MrBug, Tyrith, Schmidty

[PackerFanatic]

That's kind of my feeling too, Telle. If it's not talkative Narc, then it's gotta be quiet Danny.

[MrBug708]

vote - PF

[PackerFanatic]

You guys are making a mistake tonight if you vote me out...but I can see how I might garner suspicion. Hopefully you can learn something from my death (like look at those pointing the fingers at me...)

[Schmidty]

I'm going to try to put the nail in the coffin here. I just think that he's the best bet. He's jumped around a bit today from last night, and makes me feel uneasy. The good news is that even if he isn't a wolf, there's an excellent chance that PF is. So:

Vote Narcizo

[The Jackal]

Results will not be up exactly at deadline.