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Old 04-20-2011, 09:52 PM   #751
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It's to be expected that we hit a bit of a lull after doing so well the first couple of days I guess.

I'm reaching, but one thing that does strike me looking at the voting history is that EF has moved around a lot at the same time that our known wolves were moving around, and onto/off of some of the same candidates. Just co-incidence?

Day 1:
11:45 #113 MrBug votes JAG (1)
11:55 #116 EagleFan unvotes Autumn (1)
11:55 #116 EagleFan votes J23 (2)

21:47 #239 EagleFan unvotes Zinto (6)
21:47 #239 EagleFan votes Packer (6)
21:53 #246 JAG unvotes mckerney (3)
21:53 #246 JAG votes Packer (7)

Day 2:
13:19 #400 EagleFan unvotes MrBug (0)
13:19 #400 Eaglefan votes J23 (3)
13:43 #419 J23 votes mckerney (1)
14:03 #432 MrBug votes EagleFan (1)

20:36 #553 MrBug votes J23 (2)
20:48 #559 mckerney votes Autumn (3)
21:04 #568 EagleFan unvotes J23 (1)
21:04 #569 EagleFan votes Autumn (4)

Total reach, but it's the best I can come up with. Just trying to generate some discussion here.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:53 PM   #752
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lol... brilliant analysis as EF reveals. Scratch that then
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:54 PM   #753
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His reveal is pretty bulletproof. If it's fake, you can expect the Mother wolf to be eating him tonight. I'm not sure what you're getting at bhlloy.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:54 PM   #754
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so how sure are you of Autumn being a wolf EF? Now that we know Lathum was a villager and not seer, and no seer has spoken up today to tell us whether he is a wolf or not (and I have to think he/she scanned Autumn yesterday), I have to think he's not a wolf.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:55 PM   #755
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Hey - my flight was delayed an hour and a half at O'Hare...I just walked into my apartment like 4 minutes ago...what's up???

is my vote needed?
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:55 PM   #756
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I didn't see his reveal before I posted. Obviously now I'm not getting at anything.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:56 PM   #757
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Yeah, figured after I saw your followup.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:56 PM   #758
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based on Thomkal's vote there and this thing about Lathum being a villager and thinking that lathum/autumn were on opposite sides, and something about an EF reveal that seems to make him not a candidate, in my 2 minute review of the day's action as shown on this page, just in case it's needed to prevent hijinks

VOTE AUTUMN
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:57 PM   #759
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Uh talk about bad timing there Bhlloy...Before the MrBug kill last night, I might have gone along with you on Eaglefan.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:57 PM   #760
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so how sure are you of Autumn being a wolf EF? Now that we know Lathum was a villager and not seer, and no seer has spoken up today to tell us whether he is a wolf or not (and I have to think he/she scanned Autumn yesterday), I have to think he's not a wolf.

I'd be stunned if Autumn was a wolf TBH. The fact that

a) he's been the obvious target for the seer and the seer hasn't come out and said he's a wolf
b) Bug didn't move his vote to protect him, even though he was around and Autumn was in serious trouble at that time and
c) the kill of Lathum looks like a serious setup

makes me think there's way, way better options for us to be looking at.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:57 PM   #761
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3 minutes to vote, DT
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:59 PM   #762
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Yep, I've been giving Autumn a fair amount of latitude because I at least subscribe to the newsletter that the Lathum kill was messing with him. And I don't think two wolves vote on the cunning wolf early.
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Old 04-20-2011, 09:59 PM   #763
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DT - no matter how legit or not your reasoning might be, I'm not liking you showing up a few minutes before deadline and then putting a meaningless vote on
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:00 PM   #764
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Looks like I'm done here - good luck village. Hope you learn something from this lynch (although I doubt you will).

Look at Thomkal and particularly Narcizo.

I regret that I have one life to give to my wolf pack. . .
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:00 PM   #765
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Yep, I've been giving Autumn a fair amount of latitude because I at least subscribe to the newsletter that the Lathum kill was messing with him. And I don't think two wolves vote on the cunning wolf early.

Unless they have a TON of balls, lol
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:00 PM   #766
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DT - no matter how legit or not your reasoning might be, I'm not liking you showing up a few minutes before deadline and then putting a meaningless vote on

Given the vote count, there isn't really a meaningful vote to be made.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:00 PM   #767
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DT - no matter how legit or not your reasoning might be, I'm not liking you showing up a few minutes before deadline and then putting a meaningless vote on

Where do you expect him to vote? And he said he just got in from the airport.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:01 PM   #768
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Oh - I thought I saw some vote count where autumn was in the lead and someone else was two back, so that was my thought in voting autumn, to try to lock that down. maybe that's not the case though?

confusion reigns!
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:01 PM   #769
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Deadline!
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:01 PM   #770
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Sorry, on the phone for work.

No reason other than what I already said about Autumn.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:02 PM   #771
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DT - no matter how legit or not your reasoning might be, I'm not liking you showing up a few minutes before deadline and then putting a meaningless vote on

lynch me then *shrugs*

figured some vote was better than no vote. got confused - saw some post where autumn was up by 2 votes i thought (but maybe that was from yesterday and my page was refreshing).
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:03 PM   #772
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I revealed to save my "wife". I saw no way that I wasn't going to be targeted tonight.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:03 PM   #773
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OK, back in 7 hours for writeup
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:03 PM   #774
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Where do you expect him to vote? And he said he just got in from the airport.

he can not like it telle...it's fine.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:04 PM   #775
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It is the hour of the wolf and time again for a musical interlude...



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Old 04-20-2011, 10:04 PM   #776
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If nothing else and I get saved tonight my wife may come forward and we have a good CoT for tomorrow's vote.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:05 PM   #777
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Looks like I'm done here - good luck village. Hope you learn something from this lynch (although I doubt you will).

Look at Thomkal and particularly Narcizo.

I regret that I have one life to give to my wolf pack. . .

Dward, if I was wrong about you all I can say is I'm sorry-I felt I had a legitimate point to start from, and I had to go with my gut on it.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:06 PM   #779
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vote Ryan Miller

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Old 04-20-2011, 10:07 PM   #780
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Dward, if I was wrong about you all I can say is I'm sorry-I felt I had a legitimate point to start from, and I had to go with my gut on it.

A little late for that now. . .
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:08 PM   #781
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If nothing else and I get saved tonight my wife may come forward and we have a good CoT for tomorrow's vote.

But your plan was to have tomorrow's vote a lynch on you, or a duke on you which is much the same thing. I guess it really doesn't matter either way. At least this way you can verify the mother wolf. If you didn't have the risk of having to leave for work before making the reveal, I'd have recommended posting right after deadline while CF was processing actions.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:08 PM   #782
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Dola:

If we knew who the wolves were, it wouldn't be a game.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:11 PM   #784
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Gotta love Oingo Boingo
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:11 PM   #785
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:13 PM   #787
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I hate you Eaglefan
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:14 PM   #788
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:21 PM   #789
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Votes as of post #758:

4 - DaddyTorgo - Telle (695), Zinto (704), hoopsguy (714), dwardzala (727)

4 - Autumn - Darth Vilus (693), mckerney (709), EagleFan (740) DaddyTargo (758)
7 - dwardzala - Thomkal (692), Narcizo (694), bhlloy (699), The Jackal (703), J23 (708), PackerFanatic (710), Autumn (729)

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Old 04-20-2011, 10:26 PM   #790
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Since we have the time...

I was originally going to nail PF if he wasn't lynched on day 2. Before his reveal.

The bug thing was just a gut reaction to how he reacted to my vote. Prior to that I was looking more at Thomkal but I saw that bug was in the thread so I voted him instead of Thomkal just to see what would happen.

He seemed to react a little too harshly for an early vote. In my mind I figured a wolf would be more likely to have a defensive reaction like that. Combine that with his day one vote and it gave me tunnel vision towards him.

Changed the order to him.

Started to get nervous about it in the delay for the results though (and even started to read too much into other things, like CF PM'ing me to confirm my action.... "did he ask because I am making a bad move?").
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:35 PM   #791
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Since we have the time...

I was originally going to nail PF if he wasn't lynched on day 2. Before his reveal.

The bug thing was just a gut reaction to how he reacted to my vote. Prior to that I was looking more at Thomkal but I saw that bug was in the thread so I voted him instead of Thomkal just to see what would happen.

He seemed to react a little too harshly for an early vote. In my mind I figured a wolf would be more likely to have a defensive reaction like that. Combine that with his day one vote and it gave me tunnel vision towards him.

Changed the order to him.

Started to get nervous about it in the delay for the results though (and even started to read too much into other things, like CF PM'ing me to confirm my action.... "did he ask because I am making a bad move?").

Then I am really glad I did reveal when I did - and you have some damn good insight into posts
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:37 PM   #792
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I (and the rest of the village) are glad I wasn't in the thread at the time then.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:41 PM   #793
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Then I am really glad I did reveal when I did - and you have some damn good insight into posts

Basically, I saw his reaction and thought "I think I reacted like that before when I was a wolf."
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:48 PM   #794
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The pack gathers once again at the council rock, hungry and tired. The moon does not shine full tonight casting a grim shadow on the already weary pack. Akela is there lapping up a minty pink liquid from a bowl. He doesn't look so good.
"Akela, sir? You don't look so good. Are you alright?"
"It was mauboy and Lathum. (burp) They've come back to haunt me."
"Haunted? Oh no! I thought they were good spirits."
"Enough!" shouts Akela barely keeping it down, "We are gathered here once again to seek out those who wish to bring us down. We must eliminate any intruder so let's get to it and vote for one of you quickly."
He steps forward next to the fire.
"What's that over the fire?" asks Baloo.
"This? This is nothing. Just a special tool I use."
spit2.jpg

Bagheera jumps down from his tree.
"What is WRONG with you!" he shouts into Akela's face.
Black-Panther (400x320).jpg

Akela looks around and burps again, "Sorry, I can't help myself. I haven't eaten a good meal in days."
Bagheera looks disgusted and jumps up onto the rock.
"Forget it. I am taking over this proceeding. Would you honorable wolves, if you trust me as your friend and believe in me as your guide, signify who amongst you has been plotting with Shere Khan against the pack. Please come forward so and place your pawprint on the sacred stone next to your choice."
One by one the wolves queue up. You can feel Shere Khan in your presence. Under a bricklebush, behind that rock, hiding in that tree.
The results are read. Bagheera, flanked by Baloo, calls out a name. That wolf steps forward.
It is an active wolf in the tribe. Many are surprised to see him there. A black wolf that likes to fight and duel. Maybe that's why he was suspected. Because of his black coat, because black = evil. At least if you believe those fairy stories. And the shaved Z on his coat also kind of scared the more conservative of wolves.

BLACK_WOLF_.jpg

"DwardZala," says Bagheera, "There will be no kill tonight. We will not kill you. But you are hereby banished from the tribe and must be sent away to the cursed isles nearby. And there you must live in seclusion fighting your way through its perils. Forgive us if you are good."
DwardZala looks around, "Okay, sweet. That sounds like a better offer than staying here and becoming tiger food...or wolf food. Just so you're sure, take a whiff."
He invites the wolves to come sniff him, and as they do he piddles all over them.
He runs out of camp, down a path, and up the hill, then stops and looks back at his family of wolves. He howls once more, then turns and runs toward the cursed isle to serve his banishment (and earn lots of XP).

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[Dwardzala was a vanilla member of the Seeonee Wolf Pack.]
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:52 PM   #795
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Sorry, Dwardzala. DT would have been my first choice, but didn't look like we had enough activity to risk a tie.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:52 PM   #796
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That is f'n hillarious.
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:56 PM   #797
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Damn. I can't say I'm terribly surprised by that result with the lack of strange movement. I shouldn't have let DT make me second guess voting him.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:00 PM   #798
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Sigh, sorry Dward. But the D&D geek in me loved the reference.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:04 PM   #799
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Sigh, sorry Dward. But the D&D geek in me loved the reference.

Yeah me too.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:04 PM   #800
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I'm sure Abe approves of the reference as well.
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