WW 100: Game over! - Page 16

Lathum · 01-13-2010, 11:06 PM

Hoops is alive still, he must be a wolf.

Autumn · 01-13-2010, 11:40 PM

Wow, well that's about the worst results we could have gotten.

I wish I had stuck on Saldana now, we might have at least got a lynch.

Frankly, KWhit getting iced is fishy sounding to me.

There's going to have to be a lot of digging tomorrow, a lot of digging.

Autumn · 01-13-2010, 11:47 PM

This means the voting record doesn't tell us much. If Render is a wolf they'd have no reason to try to save him. So at least from the point he became a main candidate the record is moot.

At this point since the seer can't help us out I'm likely to revisit past votes. If we know whether Hoops, PB or KWhit is good or bad we can get something out of the votes.

saldana · 01-14-2010, 12:07 AM

either the wolves are unbelievably lucky or people are being too blatant at their hints (which if they are, i am managing to miss them all)

vote for me all you want, I will not be lynched today either.

The Jackal · 01-14-2010, 02:05 AM

well that sucks a whole bunch, i didn't have a seer read on ef

Danny · 01-14-2010, 04:13 AM

A bolt of lightning has struck one of you!

AlanT has been killed

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

A bolt of lightning has struck one of you!

AlanT has been killed

ummmmmm....

who?

henry296 · 01-14-2010, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

ummmmmm....

who?

Yeah, really. I don't think Alan is playing in this game.

Given the odd icing of Kwhit, it make might sense to resolve the PB/Kwhit vote to learn from Day 2.

saldana · 01-14-2010, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

A bolt of lightning has struck one of you!

AlanT has been killed

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

ummmmmm....

who?

ahhhh...i get it...lol...very nice danny...yet another game where alan doesnt make it to day 4!

hoopsguy · 01-14-2010, 07:31 AM

Were AlanT reading along, I expect he would laugh at that.

hoopsguy · 01-14-2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Hoops is alive still, he must be a wolf.

Congrats on being the first to post this.

PurdueBrad · 01-14-2010, 08:08 AM

Danny- Not that we would know the person's allegiance, but if the ghost whisperer talks to EF, can EF tell him who he scanned?

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 08:11 AM

No point in waiting to come out with this.

I am the Vengeful God. I am also a villager.

I had originally wanted to wait until I got some 1st time votes on me before revealing this, just to make it a little more difficult for me to be lynched.

Which happened on day 2. I got some votes, but all of a sudden I was in the running to be lynched. I didn't reveal then, because I thought it might actually end up saving me. If someone had unvoted me and then come back and re-voted me they would have been struck dead, thereby taking their vote away, giving me a better chance of living. And since I knew I was a villager, I considered it a net benefit if I stayed alive.

I had planned on revealing yesterday, but I was put on ice last night right after deadline. I am not really sure why they chose me to ice. Unless they thought I was the seer maybe? But then why wouldn't they just NK me? Dunno.

Anyway... That's who I am.

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 09:53 AM

Well, thanks for telling us, KWhit. I would have been pretty miffed if I'd died voting for you ;-)

If the Ghost Whisperer can do that that seems like the perfect use of their role - though I assume EF didn't have much to tell us. He obviously didn't catch a wolf.

RendeR · 01-14-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

*pulls out a gun and shoots Render*

There!

I'm not THAT easy to kill

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Hoops is alive still, he must be a wolf.

Seriously.

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Congrats on being the first to post this.

Does quoting this make me the 2nd?

I apologize to everyone for not being around, I passed out on the couch after Telle got home and frankly slept till midnight or so. I'm feeling somewhat better today and should be around more later in the day.

I'm trying to figure out from reading all this why the two candidates from Day 2 got NOTHING on day 3? I mean there was a tie, WTF is the reasoning behind NOT voting for at least one of them enough to do something on day 3?

Then suddenly everyone votes for me because I'm quiet? You want to find a wolf now? look at the people that got the ball rolling on someone not involved at all in the previous days voting that ended in a tie.

Very nifty bit of shell game tactics there..."Lets vote for this guy cause he's not around instead of the two people we apparently ALL wanted to lynch teh day before."

Think about it.

saldana · 01-14-2010, 10:30 AM

well i will get it started then...back to day 2.

vote purduebrad

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

I'm trying to figure out from reading all this why the two candidates from Day 2 got NOTHING on day 3? I mean there was a tie, WTF is the reasoning behind NOT voting for at least one of them enough to do something on day 3?

It's a good question. Now who volunteers to vote for KWhit? ;-) Not I.

J23 · 01-14-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RendeR

I'm trying to figure out from reading all this why the two candidates from Day 2 got NOTHING on day 3? I mean there was a tie, WTF is the reasoning behind NOT voting for at least one of them enough to do something on day 3?

I think people moved off the day2 candidates mostly because they feared the Vengeful. Now, with KWhit's reveal, that's one of the candidates that a good number of people can't go back and vote for, which is bad news if he's a wolf.

He did make the statement that he is a villager, so if we have the soothsayer on our team, that could be a good line to check against and be sure of maybe?

PurdueBrad · 01-14-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Using this, I'm hoping that we've had a scan on Path or Lathum, because if one is bad, so is the other. Not catching that could be a big problem

Lathum, you've put out two fairly important late votes in the first two nights (which is not out of character for you necessarily) but I'm curious why DT over Hoops N1 and why me over KWhit N2? Even speaking hypothetically, if I'm good, then you are 0-2 on pretty tight votes, and I mean that more than a bad voting record (because lots of us are probably 0-2) but the importance of your votes is key as well.

After last night's vote, I still favor the idea that there was no save move, which likely points to KWhit's innocence as well as mine. Something that is making vote analysis rough though is the number of outlier votes we continue to have, rather than two or three condensed candidates. Here is where we might have another wolf or two hiding out, because why get into the middle of the battle if you can avoid it.

HELL, my short list of votes will be RealDeal, Hoops, or somebody that has cast a couple of truly insignificant votes.

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Nobody told me we were required to wear underwear, so technically my panties are just in a bunch on the bedroom floor.

Actually, I like Autumn's analysis. It in no way clears me, but looking at my play, I feel very comfortable that most will see it for what it was. If Hoops wants to continue to push for yesterday's candidates so be it, lynchings smile at us all, sometimes all we can do is smile back.

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I don't think I've been all that subtle, actually. I think you are a wolf, but I would be running a risk voting for anyone a second time. I'm not sure enough that I'm going to make that bet just yet. But I'm hoping that you are scanned sooner rather than later.

This "Vengeful God" thing, and the less discussed "Gladiator" are really cramping my game a little bit in terms of putting pressure on people in the thread. I know that me blowing up or getting dueled = -1 villager, and I don't know that I'm getting a 1:1 trade in the process. Which is frustrating, as I would absolutely take 1:1 if given the chance. But I haven't really worked out what % of certainty (70%, maybe?) that I would consider it worth the risk.

So Hoops, with KWhit as the Vengeful God and me as the Gladiator, then the night 2 lynch really was a fun time for you! Lynching KWhit could be very hard at this point given how many people voted for him.

I have a two man list of who I will challenge if lynched.

So Hoops, knowing who KWhit is and who I am, feel free to pressure everyone else (including KWhit).

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

A bolt of lightning has struck one of you!

AlanT has been killed

LOL

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by J23

I think people moved off the day2 candidates mostly because they feared the Vengeful. Now, with KWhit's reveal, that's one of the candidates that a good number of people can't go back and vote for, which is bad news if he's a wolf.

He did make the statement that he is a villager, so if we have the soothsayer on our team, that could be a good line to check against and be sure of maybe?

I'd be fine with that, since I am a villager.

In addition, to answer the question of why people weren't going back to voting for the Day 2 candidates is that basically, there was nothing very suspicious about us even then - and since then people have additional data on which to base their vote.

Some of that data includes the fact that there was no late attempts to save either me or PB. A minor tick in our favor, I'd say (not a big one, since wolves wouldn't want to be too obvious if they tried to save one of their own, but a small tick in our favor).

PurdueBrad · 01-14-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

It's a good question. Now who volunteers to vote for KWhit? ;-) Not I.

Any wolves willing to step up and take one for the teams?

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 11:18 AM

If we really wanted to lynch kwhit we could still

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

If we really wanted to lynch kwhit we could still

Sure. But why would you want to?

There's no evidence at all against me and the seer even said that I leaned toward good. I don't know if he scanned me or not, but it's more of an indication of innocence than almost anyone else has.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 11:27 AM

All I'm saying is that there are better choices out there than me.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 11:38 AM

Something else I noticed while going back through some voting history stuff.

Eaglefan voted for me on Day 2.

Then on Day 3, he said I'm leaning toward good.

He must have scanned me on Night 2. I can't understand why he'd do a turnaround like that otherwise.

Did we ever get an answer of if the Ghost Whisperer can talk to EF to see who he scanned and their result?

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Sure. But why would you want to?

There's no evidence at all against me and the seer even said that I leaned toward good. I don't know if he scanned me or not, but it's more of an indication of innocence than almost anyone else has.

I have no intention to vote you but that is the kind of flawed logic that gets us in trouble. Now your point about him voting you day 2 then leaning towards good day 3 is a good one

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 11:56 AM

Fair enough.

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 12:18 PM

I may go back to CF. Something just doesn't sit right with me.

saldana · 01-14-2010, 12:26 PM

wow PB...that is possibly the single most awesome post in the history of WW as far as role reveals go

unfortunately, and this applies equally to Kwhit and even myself for that matter...both of your roles are listed as Good/Bad/Neutral, so even though there has been nothing to contradict either of your reveals, the fact that you are the gladiator and Kwhit is the vengeful god does absolutely nothing to change the fact that you may be a wolf.

that said, my vote for you this morning was more of a feeler than anything, and now that Kwhit has alleviated my earlier trepidations, i will cast the vote I actually want to cast

unvote purduebrad
vote crimson fox

saldana · 01-14-2010, 12:27 PM

dola, lol, it appears that lathum has the same unsettled feeling against our newest adversary.

hoopsguy · 01-14-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

So Hoops, knowing who KWhit is and who I am, feel free to pressure everyone else (including KWhit).

Yep, assuming that the reveal is not challenged I'm definitely feeling a little more liberated in terms of voting going forward.

However, I've really got to check some assumptions in light of the EF thing. I don't think it is possible for him to have scanned all the people on his list that would like to think that they were scanned. Honestly, I think he was more likely to have scanned you than KWhit.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Yep, assuming that the reveal is not challenged I'm definitely feeling a little more liberated in terms of voting going forward.

However, I've really got to check some assumptions in light of the EF thing. I don't think it is possible for him to have scanned all the people on his list that would like to think that they were scanned. Honestly, I think he was more likely to have scanned you than KWhit.

To go from being his voting choice for lynch to on his leans toward good list in the span of just one night (without me revealing anything) is a fairly large change of opinion, wouldn't you agree.

I also think it is very likely that he would scan me since he suspected me enough to vote for me. He may have also scanned PB, though. His posts about PB seem to suggest he did.

I almost think that he didn't scan Lathum or path since it really does seem illogical for a wolf to reveal that he rezzed Lathum. EF may have just assumed that that situation was a pretty open and shut case and didn't want to "waste" one of his scans on what was a pretty low percentage play.

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 12:52 PM

It's a bit convenient that both PB and KWhit have roles that would make it unwise to lynch them. With no counterreveals (we'll see) we'll have to assume that it's true, but it's one of those things that may you say hmm. I still have not lost track of the possibility that they are both wolves, in which case of course they'd want to make voting either of them a poor choice. So I'm going to wait until everybody's had a chance to check in here.

Even with no counter reveals, I dislike having two of the people it would be most useful to lynch be semi-unlynchable. Also in the realm of paranoid possibilities, if they're both bad they would have been smart to swap role reveals to screw us up even more.

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 12:53 PM

Saldana, I don't understand your voting. What made you feel better about PB, and why didn't you vote CF to begin with?

PurdueBrad · 01-14-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

It's a bit convenient that both PB and KWhit have roles that would make it unwise to lynch them. With no counterreveals (we'll see) we'll have to assume that it's true, but it's one of those things that may you say hmm. I still have not lost track of the possibility that they are both wolves, in which case of course they'd want to make voting either of them a poor choice. So I'm going to wait until everybody's had a chance to check in here.

Even with no counter reveals, I dislike having two of the people it would be most useful to lynch be semi-unlynchable. Also in the realm of paranoid possibilities, if they're both bad they would have been smart to swap role reveals to screw us up even more.

I actually disagree, my role might make it convenient to lynch me as I am like a duke with a coin toss. In that sense, you guys would have to trust who I would pick.

PurdueBrad · 01-14-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Honestly, I think he was more likely to have scanned you than KWhit.

I agree with this because of several of his questions and then our history.

Danny · 01-14-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Danny- Not that we would know the person's allegiance, but if the ghost whisperer talks to EF, can EF tell him who he scanned?

This would be allowed.

path12 · 01-14-2010, 01:16 PM

saldana's semi-reveals have confused me. I thought it interesting that yesterday he was fine with us assuming Survivor. Now the only other role that would make sense was Governor. I had been wondering if the Governor could pardon himself, and have confirmation from Danny that this is so.

Regardless, I believe he's been more evasive than he needs to be on this which doesn't seem to be a real pro-village stance so for that reason

VOTE SALDANA

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 01:34 PM

My sense is saldana didn't let us believe anything. My guess is he made his post then played WoW and never checked back.

The Jackal · 01-14-2010, 02:43 PM

hmm, interesting development, i shall order lunch and ponder these reveals/wait to see if there are counters

saldana · 01-14-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Saldana, I don't understand your voting. What made you feel better about PB, and why didn't you vote CF to begin with?

i wanted to see if PB started scrambling, becoming overly defensive, etc, as wolves are known to do

i didnt vote CF to begin with because I wanted to see the results of my PB vote, and was also waiting to make sure that there was no counter to the Vengeful God claim, since I had already voted for CF once.

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 02:57 PM

vote CF

Poli · 01-14-2010, 02:58 PM

Did someone die and get to come back to life? When did Lazarus join the game?

saldana · 01-14-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

My sense is saldana didn't let us believe anything. My guess is he made his post then played WoW and never checked back.

QFT

Path, no one ever asked me directly...there was speculation, but given that I could be killed at night, I saw no reason to advertise that I am, in fact, the Govenor, which means, as I have said before, I will not be getting lynched tonight.

of course I cannot prove it without actually winning (losing) the vote, but i would refer you back to my Day 1 posts about the Crazy Granny, and even on Day 2, when I was asking who could reveal that could be verified by the Gov....almost as if I knew that the pardon would occur as I was predicting.

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I actually disagree, my role might make it convenient to lynch me as I am like a duke with a coin toss. In that sense, you guys would have to trust who I would pick.

If you're a villager, definitely.

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

QFT

Path, no one ever asked me directly...there was speculation, but given that I could be killed at night, I saw no reason to advertise that I am, in fact, the Govenor, which means, as I have said before, I will not be getting lynched tonight.

of course I cannot prove it without actually winning (losing) the vote, but i would refer you back to my Day 1 posts about the Crazy Granny, and even on Day 2, when I was asking who could reveal that could be verified by the Gov....almost as if I knew that the pardon would occur as I was predicting.

Well, you can prove it by using your power, it doesn't have to be you getting lynched.

saldana · 01-14-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Well, you can prove it by using your power, it doesn't have to be you getting lynched.

i thought about that, except this isnt the regular duke role...i dont get to move the lynch to someone else, i just get to stop the lynch...we are already running around blind after 2 straight days of no lynches, so I dont really think that it benefits the village to have a 3rd.

path12 · 01-14-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

of course I cannot prove it without actually winning (losing) the vote, but i would refer you back to my Day 1 posts about the Crazy Granny, and even on Day 2, when I was asking who could reveal that could be verified by the Gov....almost as if I knew that the pardon would occur as I was predicting.

OK, I went back and saw those posts.

UNVOTE SALDANA

path12 · 01-14-2010, 03:26 PM

BTW, that was a fabulous reveal post from Brad. I tried something like that once to show I was the seer.

And was lynched day 1.

01-14-2010, 01:16 PM	#789
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	saldana's semi-reveals have confused me. I thought it interesting that yesterday he was fine with us assuming Survivor. Now the only other role that would make sense was Governor. I had been wondering if the Governor could pardon himself, and have confirmation from Danny that this is so. Regardless, I believe he's been more evasive than he needs to be on this which doesn't seem to be a real pro-village stance so for that reason VOTE SALDANA __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

01-14-2010, 02:58 PM	#794
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Did someone die and get to come back to life? When did Lazarus join the game? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

01-14-2010, 03:26 PM	#800
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	BTW, that was a fabulous reveal post from Brad. I tried something like that once to show I was the seer. And was lynched day 1. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

01-13-2010, 11:06 PM	#751
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Hoops is alive still, he must be a wolf.

01-13-2010, 11:40 PM	#752
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Wow, well that's about the worst results we could have gotten. I wish I had stuck on Saldana now, we might have at least got a lynch. Frankly, KWhit getting iced is fishy sounding to me. There's going to have to be a lot of digging tomorrow, a lot of digging.

01-13-2010, 11:47 PM	#753
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	This means the voting record doesn't tell us much. If Render is a wolf they'd have no reason to try to save him. So at least from the point he became a main candidate the record is moot. At this point since the seer can't help us out I'm likely to revisit past votes. If we know whether Hoops, PB or KWhit is good or bad we can get something out of the votes.

01-14-2010, 12:07 AM	#754
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	either the wolves are unbelievably lucky or people are being too blatant at their hints (which if they are, i am managing to miss them all) vote for me all you want, I will not be lynched today either.

01-14-2010, 02:05 AM	#755
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	well that sucks a whole bunch, i didn't have a seer read on ef

01-14-2010, 04:13 AM	#756
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	A bolt of lightning has struck one of you! AlanT has been killed

01-14-2010, 07:31 AM	#760
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Were AlanT reading along, I expect he would laugh at that.

01-14-2010, 08:08 AM	#762
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Danny- Not that we would know the person's allegiance, but if the ghost whisperer talks to EF, can EF tell him who he scanned?

01-14-2010, 08:11 AM	#763
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	No point in waiting to come out with this. I am the Vengeful God. I am also a villager. I had originally wanted to wait until I got some 1st time votes on me before revealing this, just to make it a little more difficult for me to be lynched. Which happened on day 2. I got some votes, but all of a sudden I was in the running to be lynched. I didn't reveal then, because I thought it might actually end up saving me. If someone had unvoted me and then come back and re-voted me they would have been struck dead, thereby taking their vote away, giving me a better chance of living. And since I knew I was a villager, I considered it a net benefit if I stayed alive. I had planned on revealing yesterday, but I was put on ice last night right after deadline. I am not really sure why they chose me to ice. Unless they thought I was the seer maybe? But then why wouldn't they just NK me? Dunno. Anyway... That's who I am.

01-14-2010, 09:53 AM	#764
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Well, thanks for telling us, KWhit. I would have been pretty miffed if I'd died voting for you ;-) If the Ghost Whisperer can do that that seems like the perfect use of their role - though I assume EF didn't have much to tell us. He obviously didn't catch a wolf.

01-14-2010, 10:30 AM	#766
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	well i will get it started then...back to day 2. vote purduebrad

01-14-2010, 11:18 AM	#773
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	If we really wanted to lynch kwhit we could still

01-14-2010, 11:27 AM	#775
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	All I'm saying is that there are better choices out there than me.

01-14-2010, 11:38 AM	#776
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Something else I noticed while going back through some voting history stuff. Eaglefan voted for me on Day 2. Then on Day 3, he said I'm leaning toward good. He must have scanned me on Night 2. I can't understand why he'd do a turnaround like that otherwise. Did we ever get an answer of if the Ghost Whisperer can talk to EF to see who he scanned and their result?

01-14-2010, 11:56 AM	#778
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Fair enough.

01-14-2010, 12:18 PM	#779
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I may go back to CF. Something just doesn't sit right with me.

01-14-2010, 12:26 PM	#780
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	wow PB...that is possibly the single most awesome post in the history of WW as far as role reveals go unfortunately, and this applies equally to Kwhit and even myself for that matter...both of your roles are listed as Good/Bad/Neutral, so even though there has been nothing to contradict either of your reveals, the fact that you are the gladiator and Kwhit is the vengeful god does absolutely nothing to change the fact that you may be a wolf. that said, my vote for you this morning was more of a feeler than anything, and now that Kwhit has alleviated my earlier trepidations, i will cast the vote I actually want to cast unvote purduebrad vote crimson fox

01-14-2010, 12:27 PM	#781
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, lol, it appears that lathum has the same unsettled feeling against our newest adversary.

01-14-2010, 12:52 PM	#784
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	It's a bit convenient that both PB and KWhit have roles that would make it unwise to lynch them. With no counterreveals (we'll see) we'll have to assume that it's true, but it's one of those things that may you say hmm. I still have not lost track of the possibility that they are both wolves, in which case of course they'd want to make voting either of them a poor choice. So I'm going to wait until everybody's had a chance to check in here. Even with no counter reveals, I dislike having two of the people it would be most useful to lynch be semi-unlynchable. Also in the realm of paranoid possibilities, if they're both bad they would have been smart to swap role reveals to screw us up even more.

01-14-2010, 12:53 PM	#785
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Saldana, I don't understand your voting. What made you feel better about PB, and why didn't you vote CF to begin with?

01-14-2010, 01:34 PM	#790
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	My sense is saldana didn't let us believe anything. My guess is he made his post then played WoW and never checked back.

01-14-2010, 02:43 PM	#791
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	hmm, interesting development, i shall order lunch and ponder these reveals/wait to see if there are counters

01-14-2010, 02:57 PM	#793
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	vote CF

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